id Gets Back to Business: A Preview of Rage

 Pages PREV 1 2 3 4 NEXT
 

That game certainly looks interesting. To bad I'll most likely wet my pants at the very first monster encounter.

Certainly sounds like FO3, or STALKER, or any other FPS infected with RPG tendencies and robbed of what makes Doom fun.

I guess it's futile to be praying for a Painkiller/Serious Sam-Esque game done well with infinitely upgradable ridiculous weaponry, endlessly escalating powerful & massive baddies and totally dis-jointed but spectacular, disturbing, weird and scary levels.

Bored of FPS games being so stubbornly grounded in reality. *sigh*

I find their decision to go for post-apoc very solid. Sure, people go "But it's Fallout3! Only newer" Say what again? Yes, it's post apoc but there's a REASON for that!

It's a setting that allows and to a point, demands, this vigilante, lawless air and feel to it that these games need. BB only knows that the more advanced sci-fi we get, the more control there'd be! So, yes, they could of gone the Borderlands road, but that'd mean you should be seeing some very advanced stuff that would make the game harder to relate to. Going for original these days is improbable. You COULD come up with some things but in the end, it'd just feel so silly and out there, people will go "uuuuh, yeah... pass!"

If Rage gets the gameplay right, I'll try it. Here they at least tell you are being directed. No pretense or lie about "total player freedom". I can live with being guided, but don't lie to me... please.

[TRIVIA!] Skip if you will
First the DC "wasteland" shouldn't be a desert to begin with. The only reason the first two FO's were desert was because they take place in areas that are deserts at this very moment.
And Borderlands wasn't post-apoc. It took place on a mining outpost that wasn't worth a damn and the company just pulled out, best parallel being, kids playing cops and robbers in an abandoned office complex that was never finished, for something shiny, like an abandoned tool, or a cool trinket.
[/TRIVIA]

To id Software credit, when they first announced the game at QuakeCon 2007, Fallout 3 had not been announced, S.T.A.L.K.E.R had just come out, Far Cry 2 hadn't been unveiled and Borderlands still looked like a piece of crap.

So it's pretty much pointless to say "Meh, they ripped off Fallout 3/Game X/Whatever". It's just that they had the same idea at the same time since the state of the technology allowed them to do such games that couldn't be done before.

If id is making a game set in a post-apocalyptic future, it is because of their technology. id Tech 5 was designed precisely to tackle the challenge of rendering huge outdoors environnements with a lot of visual diversity (i.e. not with the same texture and models applied to entire mountains or to all mountains and hills). That is precisely the goal of the megatexture. So a shooter made in an alien city would make pretty much no use of the features of id_Tech 5. Their game is supposed to be good, but it is also supposed to show the capabilities of their engine since they plan to licence it at least more than id_Tech 4.

One thing I like with id is how they seem enthousiastic and commited to that game. They showed it in the EA business area at Gamescom 2009 and Tim Willits and Matt Hooper were the ones showing it to the press. Their presentation was more convincing than all the facts sheets and trailers in the world. And it was way better than most of the presentations of other games given by brand managers and producers who didn't even know at times on what engine their game was running.

I hope the levels are as good as fallout 3,I hope the gameplay is better than FO3/bioshock and DOOM3, I just hope its not a another half assed product....

Hm.

The game looks intriguing and I'm fairly certain I'll enjoy it.

Having said that the problem I have isn't that it is another game with a post-apocalyptic setting. No, my problem is that it is another game with a post-apocalyptic setting that's fucking brown. If something was to kill 95% of all the people on the planet in one fell-swoop then nature would very quickly reassert itself in areas where people had been living previously.

What I'd like to see is a post-apocalyptic game that's set relatively shortly (Say, 15 or 20 years) after an outbreak of the superflu or whatever and based in a temperate area. Plant-growth choked crumbling cities that are UTTERLY SILENT, vast untouched forests where running into a fucking hungy bear is just as likely and dangerous as running into a hostile survivalist band, struggling to feed yourself when there are no more farms and what few plots of food-crops that still exist are being guarded by people who themselves depend on them for sustenance and will most assuredly NOT take kindly to you trying to pick your fill.

Ah, to dream...

The plot just screams fallout 2 with a tad of fallout 1, I mean even if they didn't mean it too, its quite amusing :P

Two Angels:
It looks good but the comparison to Fallout 3 is obvious. You start off in a Vault ARK and you have to wander around a post-apocalyptic DC wasteland and fight super mutants and fight The Enclave Authority.

To be honest I'm looking forward to this as it looks good and more open world FPS's is not a bad thing in my book but I just feel like they're not really pushing out the boat setting or story wise which is a shame. Then again no one can really complain much beyond that before playing the game which could be nothing like Fallout.

At least they'll have vehicle sections.

...or am I confusing it with Borderland?

All I am saying is...."here's hoping!"

I figure I will buy this, I hope it will be worth the money!

I feel myself RAGEing over the similarties to Fallout 3

;)

Rage may have all the wrappings of an RPG, but if there's one thing I hated about Borderlands, it was numbers, and I sure as hell hope id leaves them out. I mean, a first-person RPG is new and exciting so I can see why Gearbox tried it, but shouldn't a piece of lead traveling at a thousand feet per second through the head kill someone even if they work out/are tall? The number system was one of the weaknesses of the game, and it was a miss to say the least.

Rage does look promising, and I personally don't care if it ends up being similar to Fallout. Fallen Earth is similar to Fallout, but people don't seem to mind much. I enact the Rule of Cool to this effect.

I clicked on an article for Rage but I guess I got one about Fallout 3, an underground safe haven, an evil government, open world, lots of customizable guns, post apocolyptic. But Quake 4 was ok in my opinion so I'm sure that a Fallout 3 clone done by a studio known for closed in linear shooters will be great.

Kalezian:
I cant wait for Rage either. but I cant shake the feeling that people will cry on their rooftops "ITS FALLOUT [3]!"

FALLO- oh, now i don't feel as cool. In reality, i think its going to be the bastard child of borderlands and fallout.

Rawker:

Kalezian:
I cant wait for Rage either. but I cant shake the feeling that people will cry on their rooftops "ITS FALLOUT [3]!"

FALLO- oh, now i don't feel as cool. In reality, i think its going to be the bastard child of borderlands and fallout.

You mean Fallen Earth? ... maybe Rage is more like the retarded son.

I kid.
I feel it will be more like if you took DIRT's world and transposed on top of Fallout 3.
I hope.

RAge looks awesome I just don't hope this happens again

image

^Hahahaha!
This sounds awesome!

This is cool, but until someone makes an Eclipse Phase FPS/RPG hybrid for the computer, I won't be happy.

Now THAT'S a bitching post apocalypse...filled with nanotech and cortical stacks and so on and so forth.

Anywho, Rage looks neat. I'm always up for "Like Fallout 3, but better."

Cause Fallout 3 was awesome.

So Fallout 3 but better is quite good indeed.

Post-apocalyptic FPS RPG...

I have a strong urge to cry "Fallout 3 clone!" but, since it's id, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

It's lack of effort to trying to break the rut of games is why Crytek keeps selling theirs. If I had to choose between Rage and Crysis 2, I'd pick the latter because at least right now, NYC isn't being raped to death just yet. I can just play Fallout 3 to get my Wasteland fill. Not to mention Rage will also have New Vegas to go up against. Seriously id, if you are going to come back into the ring, don't do it as a copycat. At least pick a genre that isn't being used just now.
Why not revive Hexxen?

people bitch about shit being new and original. Seriously, shut the fuck up, you want new shit handed to you, when there is so much shit out there.

Bet you people didn't know that Quake 3 can be a Trick or Race game.

Actually quake 3 ALONE has more variety than multiple games. TDM's entire game style is totally different than DUEL, or CA, or instagib, or blah blah blah.

Again people complain about new shit in games, but never explore or push what they already have. Why, cause they want originality handed to them, when you yourself can create it.

samsonguy920:
It's lack of effort to trying to break the rut of games is why Crytek keeps selling theirs. If I had to choose between Rage and Crysis 2, I'd pick the latter because at least right now, NYC isn't being raped to death just yet. I can just play Fallout 3 to get my Wasteland fill. Not to mention Rage will also have New Vegas to go up against. Seriously id, if you are going to come back into the ring, don't do it as a copycat. At least pick a genre that isn't being used just now.
Why not revive Hexxen?

Id started work on their "copycat" about the same time Bethesda started on Fallout 3. Bethesda used a middleware engine which they also used for Oblivion and got it out the door. Id developed a new engine. I love Fallout 3. In spite of the game engine. I suspect I'll like Rage as a game, and be a lot happier with the tech it runs on. As for Hexen, that was a Raven Software game. Id engine, different developer -- the same developer that id used to do Quake IV. They have always had a pretty close relationship. Personally I'd love to see a Hexen III. Hexen II is one of my favorite all time games. Hopefully Raven will dust it off and carry it forward. First Person, RPG elements, swords and sorcery. *sigh* I can hope...

Kalezian:
I cant wait for Rage either. but I cant shake the feeling that people will cry on their rooftops "ITS FALLOUT [3]!"

I'll be fair, that's exactly what i'm thinking.

If I had to choose between Rage and Crysis 2, I'd pick the latter because at least right now, NYC isn't being raped to death just yet.

GTA III & IV, Prototype, Deus Ex, Indigo Prophecy, Max Payne, Resistance 2, Ghostbusters etc...
No, it hasn't been raped to death at all.

What do we have as post-apocalyptic/desert games ? Fallout 3, Borderlands, Fallen Earth and... that's pretty much all of it.

Just sounds like its going to be Borderlands/Fallout 3.

Why has ID felt the need to go "open world", I find most open world mission based games lack good story telling and 'epic' moments, with a few exceptions. Right now it sounds like they've lifted out Fallout 3's story and setting completely, and given us the mechanics of Borderlands minus the things that made borderlands fun, i.e. the RPG side of it and ridiculous amount of guns.

Whilst I imagine the actual feel of the game will be better than both, movement and gun handling will also feel more FPS'y, like we are used to with ID, but they are playing a dangerous game here by not doing anything that really innovates the genre.

More and more games these days find success purely on their Multiplayer content as well. I believe if it's just a Singleplayer game its got to be EPIC to compete these days, especially on consoles.

But seeing as it's ID, it will probably have a MP, and again I can't see it being the new "twitch shooter" that could in anyway compete with Quake, so when you are failing to better your previous achievements, it's got to be seen as a failure really hasn't it. All we are going to be served at the end of the day is Borderlands mixed with Fallout 3, with ridiculous hot rod cars, and a watered down single player and multiplayer.

Oh, and it uses the same multiplayer infrastructure that MW2 does for PC, YAY! =.=

Well I did like Fallout 3, I can only assume more of the same would be... The same?

I get the feeling it will be just another game in the sea nobody will remember a few years after it's released. I don't think they will revolutionize the genre by doing what was essentially already done in STALKER/Fallout3/Borderlands/whatever, so I guess I'll wait for the reviews and might get the game if it's fun, but nobody should expect the game to be the mesiah of FPSs.

I'm going with the masses and saying: "Yes, it is a lot like Fallout 3." Even look at the way the enemy in the first screenshot is holding his weapon, the room bears resemblance to a typical fallout office and don't get me started on that ARK bit! I'm not saying that it looks bad or anything, just similar to fallout.

I have been waiting a while for this game I can't wait until it comes out.

olikunmissile:

Kalezian:
I cant wait for Rage either. but I cant shake the feeling that people will cry on their rooftops "ITS FALLOUT [3]!"

Unfortunately, it IS. Replace "The Ark" with "Vault". Replace "Wasteland" with "Wasteland". Replace "The Authority" with "The Enclave". Replace... Ah you get the idea.

They just described Fallout, anyone would think they copied from Black Isle's test paper.

However I am now going to keep an eye on this. Because I, like the rest of the world, sometimes enjoy eating the same meal, even if it has a different name.

I don't think it's so much the same meal with a different name. It's more like Fallout 3 was a beef stew, and then id came along and thought "You know, this is good, but what if we use bear meat instead of beef? And maybe use a couple different vegetables". At the end of the day we're still eating stew, but its going to be a different stew.

I'm guesstimating most people screaming Fallout 3 rip-off haven't a) played and id Software game before, and/or b) don't realize this shit went into development at around the same time Bethesda laid their money-grubbing fingers on the Fallout-franchise (and raped it to Oblivion if you ask me).
This will be a game with id Software's default gunplay (aka awesome) with some new ideas and directions for the company. Doesn't matter what people say, this thing will probably be a great new IP from one of the all time champs of gamedevelopment, and I'm looking forward to it.

Fallout 3 as a proper FPS, insane frame rates, vehicles - well i'm defiantly sold

Shjade:
While the setting does make me think Fallout, particularly the Ark bit, being able to actually concentrate on shooting things with accurate guns rather than rely on a VATS-type system to hit a target would make for much tighter gameplay, I'd think.

Post-apocalypse has been done many times before. It will be done many times in future. As long as the game holds up on its own merits I could live with the setting. That is, if I were getting the game; I doubt my compy'd be able to run it.

Because if you think post-apocalyptic games, the Fallout series is the standout to the majority of people. Fallout 1 and 2 were famous and respected, Fallout 3 is ubiquitous.

On another subject, no "NPC"s in Doom? What happened to the poor rabbit that features so prominently in the end sequence? (You young'uns don't want to know what happens to rabbits in an alien demon apocalypse. Seriously, you don't. It'll turn your stomachs.)

theSovietConnection:

olikunmissile:

Kalezian:
I cant wait for Rage either. but I cant shake the feeling that people will cry on their rooftops "ITS FALLOUT [3]!"

Unfortunately, it IS. Replace "The Ark" with "Vault". Replace "Wasteland" with "Wasteland". Replace "The Authority" with "The Enclave". Replace... Ah you get the idea.

They just described Fallout, anyone would think they copied from Black Isle's test paper.

However I am now going to keep an eye on this. Because I, like the rest of the world, sometimes enjoy eating the same meal, even if it has a different name.

I don't think it's so much the same meal with a different name. It's more like Fallout 3 was a beef stew, and then id came along and thought "You know, this is good, but what if we use bear meat instead of beef? And maybe use a couple different vegetables". At the end of the day we're still eating stew, but its going to be a different stew.

You, sir, have just won the prize for "most overuse of a foodie metaphor in any web forum ever." You get three Internets (four if you can somehow fit dumplings in there as well).

So what you're basically saying is that it draws influence from Borderlands and Fallout whilst going a step further towards the RPG aspect all while keeping a world that (hopefully) maintains my interest and leads to a ton of replay value.

lkevil:
Fallout 3 as a proper FPS, insane frame rates, vehicles - well i'm defiantly sold

I second that.

Also, I would be only disapointed if there was an great alternative to a post-apocalypse scenario (or if Fallout 3 was perfect). What other setting on earth gives you the ability to shoot random people in the face and not feel like a GTA douchbag that doesn't involve Nazis... Or Zombie Nazis.

 Pages PREV 1 2 3 4 NEXT

Reply to Thread

Log in or Register to Comment
Have an account? Login below:
With Facebook:Login With Facebook
or
Username:  
Password:  
  
Not registered? To sign up for an account with The Escapist:
Register With Facebook
Register With Facebook
or
Register for a free account here