Critical Miss: #6

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JourneyThroughHell:
Yup, pretty funny.
Although the tagline is a bit misleading. Imo, even the horrors of "realizing your own descending into mediocrity" can't compare to "money".

As a creator of creative content myself, you are sorely mistaken. :)

Grey Carter:

Andronicus:
Would this topic just die already? I think they've made it pretty clear that it's just not happening.

I'm all for dropping the subject. I will when Square execs stop cock teasing the fans about it.

And lets be honest here, when the money dries up, when they've driven the last disney character out of Kingdom Hearts and when fans finally wise up that the Final Fantasy series is never going to get the magic back, then we'll see the remake. And it will be horrible.

I for one adore the game but for the wrong reasons apparently. The story and characters are mostly garbage and the gameplay melts away into nothingness when you get 'big guard' but the melancholic atmosphere (particularly in and around Midgar) has been matched by very few games. A remake wouldn't be about the atmosphere though. It'd be about people with spikey hair flying around and shouting at each other.

Aye, that first area really sold me. The atmosphere in the entire Midgar area of the game was something I often wanted the game to return to. When I left Midgar, I even tried to get back in. The guy outside talking about a gate key lead me on an hour long journey for nothing. Wasn't until I got to the digging event that I was infinitely elated. The game had atmosphereic events throughout, but Midgar was the one that sold me.

Firia:

JourneyThroughHell:
Yup, pretty funny.
Although the tagline is a bit misleading. Imo, even the horrors of "realizing your own descending into mediocrity" can't compare to "money".

As a creator of creative content myself, you are sorely mistaken. :)

Ahh, different priorities, I guess.
Don't take that I'm a money whore, it's just that I sincerely doubt SE care at this point.

JourneyThroughHell:

Firia:

JourneyThroughHell:
Yup, pretty funny.
Although the tagline is a bit misleading. Imo, even the horrors of "realizing your own descending into mediocrity" can't compare to "money".

As a creator of creative content myself, you are sorely mistaken. :)

Ahh, different priorities, I guess.
Don't take that I'm a money whore, it's just that I sincerely doubt SE care at this point.

It's okay. For Square-Enix, money is the bottom line. For any successful business, it's the bottom line. That's why Squaresoft and Enix merged. For the mountains of cash that each one was sure they could spoon feed each other.

But on the individual level... that's a whole 'nother bag. To say you made something loved and remembered as strongly as Final Fantasy 7 is a moment of pride I only hope to be able to experience one day. To have it both loved, and financially successful, means you're a king among men in the business world. And the realization that you've hit your peek 10 years ago, and nothing you've done, can do, or will ever do again can ever match that one star in the sky... well, it's sort of a depressing thought.

Firia:

JourneyThroughHell:

Firia:

JourneyThroughHell:
Yup, pretty funny.
Although the tagline is a bit misleading. Imo, even the horrors of "realizing your own descending into mediocrity" can't compare to "money".

As a creator of creative content myself, you are sorely mistaken. :)

Ahh, different priorities, I guess.
Don't take that I'm a money whore, it's just that I sincerely doubt SE care at this point.

It's okay. For Square-Enix, money is the bottom line. For any successful business, it's the bottom line. That's why Squaresoft and Enix merged. For the mountains of cash that each one was sure they could spoon feed each other.

But on the individual level... that's a whole 'nother bag. To say you made something loved and remembered as strongly as Final Fantasy 7 is a moment of pride I only hope to be able to experience one day. To have it both loved, and financially successful, means you're a king among men in the business world. And the realization that you've hit your peek 10 years ago, and nothing you've done, can do, or will ever do again can ever match that one star in the sky... well, it's sort of a depressing thought.

But not for everyone that realization is so depressing.
I mean, sure, he might have hit his peak a long time ago but he can still make quality product and isn't that the most important part of all?

Money. The sole reason things anyone doesn't like exists:

Because people will pay for it.

JourneyThroughHell:

Firia:

JourneyThroughHell:

Firia:

JourneyThroughHell:
Yup, pretty funny.
Although the tagline is a bit misleading. Imo, even the horrors of "realizing your own descending into mediocrity" can't compare to "money".

As a creator of creative content myself, you are sorely mistaken. :)

Ahh, different priorities, I guess.
Don't take that I'm a money whore, it's just that I sincerely doubt SE care at this point.

It's okay. For Square-Enix, money is the bottom line. For any successful business, it's the bottom line. That's why Squaresoft and Enix merged. For the mountains of cash that each one was sure they could spoon feed each other.

But on the individual level... that's a whole 'nother bag. To say you made something loved and remembered as strongly as Final Fantasy 7 is a moment of pride I only hope to be able to experience one day. To have it both loved, and financially successful, means you're a king among men in the business world. And the realization that you've hit your peek 10 years ago, and nothing you've done, can do, or will ever do again can ever match that one star in the sky... well, it's sort of a depressing thought.

But not for everyone that realization is so depressing.
I mean, sure, he might have hit his peak a long time ago but he can still make quality product and isn't that the most important part of all?

I suppose it would depend on how he feels about his lifes accomplishments. Having created a god among RPG's for history to remember might be enough for him to be satasfied. But FF7 was over 10 years ago, and in my personal opinion, nothing he's created since has come close. 10 years is a long time, and satasfaction doesn't last that long. If something like FF7 was his lifes ambition, then yay. :) I just know that if it were me in his shoes, FF7 would be at the top of my design resume, but I'd always be striving to top it.

(I don't feel that he's learned what made the game such a massive hit. Like he got lucky.)

Too true. FF7 just has that certain "something" that even if you loathe it, and a lot do, you can't help being passionate about loathing it.

So true

Irridium:
hehe, that was funny.

I'm surprised they haven't remade it yet.

A remake would be good for everyone.

The fans get their game.
Square gets mountains of money.
And the rest of us will finally be able to live in a world where we don't have to hear everyone beg for a remake.

Then we get to live in a world where everyone complains that the remake ruined the game. If it ever does happen I'm not sure whether or not I'd want it to be voice acted. One hand I like giving them imaginary voices in my head on the other it'd be hilarious to hear Barret say something along the lines of "Yo cracka".

Back on track at first I didn't think this comic would be that great but it's grown on me.

i'm confused to whether this comic is meant to have a story or not as it seemed like it might have done early one. don't care too much mind cos i have enjoyed every strip so far.

fanklok:

Irridium:
hehe, that was funny.

I'm surprised they haven't remade it yet.

A remake would be good for everyone.

The fans get their game.
Square gets mountains of money.
And the rest of us will finally be able to live in a world where we don't have to hear everyone beg for a remake.

Then we get to live in a world where everyone complains that the remake ruined the game. If it ever does happen I'm not sure whether or not I'd want it to be voice acted. One hand I like giving them imaginary voices in my head on the other it'd be hilarious to hear Barret say something along the lines of "Yo cracka".

Back on track at first I didn't think this comic would be that great but it's grown on me.

Yeah true. Plus if it was voiced you couldn't name everyone Bob. Which would surely kill many comedic gold moments.

Ha, a well put together comic. Very good.

Funniest one yet, keep it up.

I only stumbled upon this series now (I'll give you a hint: FF7 was in the title). This gave me some hidden void of responsibility that rarely surfaces from the bowels of my soul to see the other pages. And I did.

It was awesome.

Irridium:
A remake would be good for everyone.

How does effectively doubling the amount of bad fanfiction and pictures of crappy Cloud cosplays on the internet benefit me exactly?

nmaster64:

Irridium:
A remake would be good for everyone.

How does effectively doubling the amount of bad fanfiction and pictures of crappy Cloud cosplays on the internet benefit me exactly?

As for the cosplay:
It gives you more people to laugh at.
It'll definitely give me more people to laugh at.

As for the fanfiction:
Um... shit...

Ok, so not everything will be better.

nick n stuff:
i'm confused to whether this comic is meant to have a story or not as it seemed like it might have done early one. don't care too much mind cos i have enjoyed every strip so far.

Thank you! And we will have story arches every once in a while but the occasional video game jokes will just be thrown in aside randomness. WE KNEEL BEFORE NO RULER!

So far, so good. I'm liking it.

Irridium:

As for the cosplay:
It gives you more people to laugh at.
It'll definitely give me more people to laugh at.

I stopped laughing at Cloud cosplayers a long time ago. Now they just kind of make me sad inside.

I played all of the FF VII spin-offs.
Imho Crisis Core was better than FF VII.
Altough I really loved FF VII.
About the rest...
...well, let's just say I would rather put sulfuric acid into my eyes than playing any of the other spin-offs again....
But, as mentioned before, it's about the money, and as long as you got fanboys who buy everything labeled FF, why stop beating a dead horse?
If Nintendo can do it, why not SquareEnix?
Maybe, because they sometimes care about what they release?
I dunno -_-

btw:
Critical Miss is awesome.
Every strip made me laugh very hard...
..keep up the good work !!!

It lacks substance. Yeah, I know I've been saying the same thing for the previous strips, but this comics series could be so incredibly awesome...

"badly translated jrpg" *yawn*

Bring back the hamster.

Still only reading for the hamster badge.

To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.

why is his mouth leaking blood?

FF7 was great until you left Midgar. Then it turned into mini-game hell!

wait...what has this got to do with the titular Critical Miss? I don't even remember her name, but she's not in this release at all, just something about Final Fantasy. Is this something she's written as part of a review? is the explorer a character who's going to crop up again? Would you kindly explain how this comic fits in with the story of a female game critic who doesn't actually star in her own comic...Even if you threw her in at the end or had her reading/telling us this joke it would made sense and I wouldn't winge, but she's not. The other comics were about her, but this isn't...

Though it is funny how the only remotely amusing comic doesn't actually include her character...wait...what was I complaining about again?

Mordwyl:
To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.

Excuse me, but what about FF6 needs remaking? The 2D art looks perfectly good, gameplay is functional, not to mention it was ported to a handheld so you could play it on the go.

If people want to play FF6 they should just go buy the GBA version or port it to Virtual Console/PSN Network. I personally don't want FF6 completely remade, as I can pretty much guarantee the current Square has no idea what made their games good and would ruin it. For example, every change made to Chrono Trigger when it was ported to the DS was for the worse, in my opinion.

evilengine:
wait...what has this got to do with the titular Critical Miss? I don't even remember her name, but she's not in this release at all, just something about Final Fantasy. Is this something she's written as part of a review? is the explorer a character who's going to crop up again? Would you kindly explain how this comic fits in with the story of a female game critic who doesn't actually star in her own comic...Even if you threw her in at the end or had her reading/telling us this joke it would made sense and I wouldn't winge, but she's not. The other comics were about her, but this isn't...

This is a good point. This comic doesn't fit in at all with the premise of the comic. You know, not every comic has to be Penny Arcade with the obvious gamer messages based on current gaming news. The main character is actually fairly interesting compared to the typical "unemployed (or not obviously employed at any specific place since it never figures into the humor) gamer" characters we see in other gaming webcomics.

Good comic, but needs undead cyborg grandma puppets.

Samurai Goomba:

Mordwyl:
To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.

Excuse me, but what about FF6 needs remaking? The 2D art looks perfectly good, gameplay is functional, not to mention it was ported to a handheld so you could play it on the go.

If people want to play FF6 they should just go buy the GBA version or port it to Virtual Console/PSN Network. I personally don't want FF6 completely remade, as I can pretty much guarantee the current Square has no idea what made their games good and would ruin it. For example, every change made to Chrono Trigger when it was ported to the DS was for the worse, in my opinion.

Easy, have you played the ports? They didn't even bother to polish them up. Meanwhile every installment before it has received a proper remake on the DS and were well-received. Also I don't necessarily believe a simple upgrade on the aesthetics with some spit and polish are enough for one of the best titles in the series. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals was astounding turn-based RPG in its own right, and yet its remake Lufia: The Land Cursed by the Gods revamped the title as an action RPG while still retaining its characters and the major plot elements.

What I'm trying to say is, good as FF6 was back in the day the concept was far beyond its time.

Mordwyl:

Samurai Goomba:

Mordwyl:
To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.

Excuse me, but what about FF6 needs remaking? The 2D art looks perfectly good, gameplay is functional, not to mention it was ported to a handheld so you could play it on the go.

If people want to play FF6 they should just go buy the GBA version or port it to Virtual Console/PSN Network. I personally don't want FF6 completely remade, as I can pretty much guarantee the current Square has no idea what made their games good and would ruin it. For example, every change made to Chrono Trigger when it was ported to the DS was for the worse, in my opinion.

Easy, have you played the ports? They didn't even bother to polish them up. Meanwhile every installment before it has received a proper remake on the DS and were well-received. Also I don't necessarily believe a simple upgrade on the aesthetics with some spit and polish are enough for one of the best titles in the series. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals was astounding turn-based RPG in its own right, and yet its remake Lufia: The Land Cursed by the Gods revamped the title as an action RPG while still retaining its characters and the major plot elements.

What I'm trying to say is, good as FF6 was back in the day the concept was far beyond its time.

Sometimes the definition of art is somebody having a vision that's beyond the technology of the times and making it work despite limitations in the field. If we take that piece of art which arose from adversity and plunge it into the multimillion dollar world of blockbuster games releases, there's no guarantee it'd come out any better for the experience. "Art from adversity."

A more perfect example than the Star Wars series there is not. Given unlimited time, budget and influence, the prequel movies were what George came up with. There's no denying the original Star Wars was a movie ahead of its time-a movie where a lot of the ideas had to be compromised to work with the practical technology they had access to. There were time and budget constraints. Lucas didn't have the last say on everything because he was just another young film maker with an idea.

You've got an example of an old game that was remade successfully. I've got examples of failed remake attempts which were far inferior to the originals (Tales of Phantasia is the first that comes to mind, with the abominable new art direction). What I'm trying to say is it could go either way. I've never been quite as nuts over FF6 as many RPG players (I consider Final Fantasy Tactics to be the pinnacle of the FF series by far), but it's a good example of role playing featuring classic, clean sprite graphics, a narrative that never sacrifices what it's trying to say, a decent combat system, some brilliant music and unforgettable characters. It's creepy, funny, heartwarming and intelligent.

I fail to see how that could be improved by either an expensive facelift or revamped mechanics. They already re-translated the thing, which was probably the only arguable flaw with the game. That and random encounters, but that's more of a flaw within the genre that some devs don't take the time to correct. And there were work-arounds. In my opinion, a cohesive art style and clean visuals never go out of style, no matter how "dated" something ends up looking. It doesn't have to look like FF13, because it's not trying to be FF13.

I fail to understand why gamers WANT all their classic good-time nostalgia games exhumed and remade. I think Collateral is one of the best films ever made by a human being, but nobody better even freaking think for one second about editing or remaking it. "Movies are art and art shouldn't be modified!" (-Stan Marsh) So if one thinks certain games are art, why would one be in favor of modifying art?

You can never have enough money

Dark Templar:

jackanderson:
Loved that one. Keep up the, frankly, excellent work!

May I also announce that FF7 and the Kingdom Hearts series are the only JRPG's I've ever liked. But don't give us a damn remake. I personally don't think it'd work. Plus, people would find a way to cock it up, like most remakes.

I don't know dude, Square's Final Fantasy Tactics remake arguably did nothing but improve the game.

The FFT remake is the sole product Squeenix has released that I absolutely loved. They curb stomped the engrish out of the game and replaced it with something more appropriate.
As they say, the exception does not define the rule.

A FF7 Remake has the bar set far too high to be great. But there are other problems, specifically, most of the absolutely batshit insane content and plots they released (as canon no less) in the compendium games and movie.

For those reasons, I am certain that a remake of FF7 would serve to do nothing but spoil the original even further (as if the internet in its infinite stupidity hasn't done so already).

If they knew what exactly made FF7 so loved and adorned by it's crazy fans... then they would have made a couple hundred clones of the game instead of reinventing the wheel while using the same story/plot over and over again.

They should just release the game on the psp. It's a menu based game rpg that can thrive on that system... unlike FPS or third person shooters.

Seriously, if they wanted to drop a mega-selling bombshell to re-vamp thier image and thier pockets, an FF 7 remake would be the way to do it. But exactly how long do they plan to hold that trump card over our heads? I'm sorry Mr. Mada, but how long do yo think you can hold your poker face? 13 years is a long time to stay your hand, who knows...by the time you decide to play your winning hand everyone else at the table might have already left. I love FF7 with a passion, but even a diehard like myself can lose interest over time. I'd say you have about 1 or 2 more years at the most, before poeple forget the game entirely, and then remakeing it would be a moot point becuase you'll have to rebuild all the hype.

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