Zero Punctuation: Monster Hunter Tri

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I don't have the game myself, but judging from the posts of those who have actually played it a significant amount of time, this sounds like another FFXIII-Yahtzee fiasco, to me. I said it once before, I mentally stamp all of Yahtzee's critiques with "FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY."

In fairness to Yahtzee, 1 week just doesn't seem like enough time to actually critique a game with any real depth anyway, considering the time I'm guessing it must take to script and compose Zero Punctuation each week. In my opinion, it seems there was more depth in his critiques in the earlier days when he wasn't releasing 1 per week. Back then, each episode seemed less mass-produced and more personable; for instance, each had a different intro-track instead of the same canned track every time. You combine this with everything else he is trying to do, and you start to wonder if he really does have any time to play the games at all. The end result is that if the game does not reveal all its depth and intricacies within the first 10-15 minutes of play, he simply may not have the time to give the game a completely fair shake.

Sure, it's nice having a new Zero Punctuation each week, because us geeks love having the internet spoon feed us at absurdly rapid rates. However, the strain on quality that comes from such rapid production and digestion become evident. Expectations and confidence in accuracy or precision have to be tempered accordingly to avoid conflict.

I go back into my cave now.

EDIT: P.S. I still find the shit funny, though, which is why I watch it.

Are people really basing their opinions of this game based on Yahtzee playing an hour and a half of the game?

And now I'd like to make a prediction:

On next week's Extra Punctuation, Yahtzee will try to justify his not hunting a big monster with an article on how long it should take for a game to "open up" (i.e.: let you get to the meat of the game). Hopefully, he'll make some good points along the way.

Yahtzee, why do you review shitty games nobody cares about?

Speaking of the graphics war, I never got why people cared so much about it. I honestly can't notice a huge difference between playing my games on HD and SD, besides that on SD text tends to get blurry. Then again, one of my favorite games is Dwarf Fortress, so I may be one of those people that can ignore annoying factors and graphics for the sake of a really awesome concept.

In all seriousness, though, the only thing about graphics I notice is when stuff is blocky in the style of early gamecube/late N64 games, or when it has a horrible draw distance with obvious pop up, which only tends to happen when the game tries to have that fun wavy grass on the ground instead of devoting resources to other tasks.

Magnatek:

Aylaine:
Funny review as always. I liked the Dogbaby part. xD

Does the Wii really have a controller like that though? o.o

Yep. The Wii Classic Controller (as it's called) has been out for about as long as the Wii itself, and it's quite effective for Virtual Console games and others. I'm sure Aura has probably used one.

OT: Well, this was an entertaining show, to say the least. I actually like the grind like that, so I still have an interest in the game. I'll give it a rental still, but I'll keep your words in mind.

You called? And yes I do own it.

Aura Guardian:

Magnatek:

Aylaine:
Funny review as always. I liked the Dogbaby part. xD

Does the Wii really have a controller like that though? o.o

Yep. The Wii Classic Controller (as it's called) has been out for about as long as the Wii itself, and it's quite effective for Virtual Console games and others. I'm sure Aura has probably used one.

OT: Well, this was an entertaining show, to say the least. I actually like the grind like that, so I still have an interest in the game. I'll give it a rental still, but I'll keep your words in mind.

You called? And yes I do own it.

I figured that you had a Classic Controller and have used one, so you got a mention. I have yet to play a game with it yet, myself.

Thank you for confirming my fears of what this game would be when I chose to buy an older game proven to be more interesting

In actuality, I always thought that the game splitting into multiple areas was a delibrate design choice, Hell the JP only PC Monster Hunter still has them.

Just look at Crystal Bearers for a moment. The game is a completely seamless world without loading times and still managed to look fantastic. So yeah to those saying the loading times exist because the Wii's apparent lack of technical processing power are so very mistaken. I can guarentee that if the game came out on the PS3/360 instead of the Wii, it would of been exactly the same with the loading screens being there completely intact. Just my 2 cents

Golem29:
Are people really basing their opinions of this game based on Yahtzee playing an hour and a half of the game?

Yeah pretty much

...Ok sure I'm not one of those retards who try to justify how GAME X has no flaw and every negative little thing that is pointed out adds to my retard strength, can Monster Hunter be tedious, hell yes, but the fact that he never actually discussed any positives irks me a little, will I buy a plane ticket to Australia to burn down his home, no, but I will say that you should not base YOUR opinion on something due to what some guy who you'll never meet in RL says! As far as multiplayer is concerned (Yes Yathzee I know you don't give a shit about multiplayer) but those who do should know that this game has a GOOD multiplayer.

manas:
Yahtzee, why do you review shitty games nobody cares about?

It's got an 8.5 on metacritic and it was the number one board on GameFAQs for about two months before RDR stepped up, and it's still at number three below the Xbox and PS3 versions of that, and it has pretty massive sales numbers, and it comes from a series that's incredibly well loved in Japan and has a strong following in the US due to MHFU.

The only way it would be a game nobody cared about was if you'd never touched a PSP, PS2, or a Wii, because the MH series has been huge on all of those.

Oddly enough, most of the stuff he mentioned are aspects of games I don't mind at all.

Funny review, to be sure, but I'm still interested in the game.

drkchmst:
Thank you for confirming my fears of what this game would be when I chose to buy an older game proven to be more interesting

If Yahtzee told you to eat shit you probably would judging by this post.

Magnatek:

I figured that you had a Classic Controller and have used one, so you got a mention. I have yet to play a game with it yet, myself.

I got 2 reg and 2 pro. Dissappointed with the Pro because it's not Gamecube compatible and my Wavebird is the only working Gamecube controller I have left.

Towowo2:
In actuality, I always thought that the game splitting into multiple areas was a delibrate design choice, Hell the JP only PC Monster Hunter still has them.

Just look at Crystal Bearers for a moment. The game is a completely seamless world without loading times and still managed to look fantastic. So yeah to those saying the loading times exist because the Wii's apparent lack of technical processing power are so very mistaken. I can guarentee that if the game came out on the PS3/360 instead of the Wii, it would of been exactly the same with the loading screens being there completely intact. Just my 2 cents

Yeah, the loading screens are mostly there for two reasons:

One: Preventing draw distance issues. Monster Hunter manages to have none of these, which is actually pretty cool for a Wii game with good graphics and a lot going on (for a wii game, anyway).

Two: Splitting up areas so that you can escape the boss monster(s). Basically, as Yahtzee would have noticed had he gotten to an actual boss monster, the areas serve more as ways of saying "Leave this area, the boss won't chase you so you can heal up" or "The boss is leaving the area, he must be getting weaker," while in a seamless world, it would be a lot harder, plus the "boss leaving the area" part would become "boss is limping away, let's wail on him until he dies" which wouldn't be all that fun.

Aiden_the-Joker1:
this game sounds horrible. Brilliant review as always Yahtzee

It's not that bad, just from his review I can tell he didn't even get past the tutorial. He didn't mention the gigantic monsters you fight... Very disapointing.

VanityGirl:

Aiden_the-Joker1:
this game sounds horrible. Brilliant review as always Yahtzee

It's not that bad, just from his review I can tell he didn't even get past the tutorial. He didn't mention the gigantic monsters you fight... Very disapointing.

All the MH fans are dissapointed at the review because it seems he played the first half of the 1* missions and stopped. I know he hated these types of games, but he could have played more.

Pretty nice parody as always, but i think he never got to play against the bigger monsters, which are the best part of the game.

And yes, online is a blast.

The only thing I really agree with Yahtzee on this game, is it being on the Wii = Bad. It would of done much better had it been on the PS3 where DLC events and new masks and the like could be added (For free, as thats how it has always worked). It also meant the game wouldn't have to have the loading zones (for the most part) since White Knight Chronicles has maps that are larger than any in MH3.

The rest I disagree with. People said what I was thinking already, no need to reiterate it. The Nature of the beast for Monster Hunter as a series has, and always will be, going online with a group to hunt increasingly larger, more intricate, and dangerous monsters.

Though, he doesn't seem much like a team player anyways. If he rolled anything, he'd roll sword and shield and take all the first aid meds and rations from the supply box, traps too if its in there, and waste them all as he gets knocked around despite "Blocking" the attacks.

And Geizr, I definitely agree with you on your last statement. Its nice to get one weekly, but its been shown that sometimes he develops less than any actual play-time to some games. He tries rushing through as much as he can and suffers for it (point made by the Demon's Souls game), both in his critique of the game, and ZP as well. For instance, I doubt he ever noticed, or even got to where he could get the item "Sticky White Stuff" in Demon's souls.

I played Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on my PSP.

I just really thought it was...not good. For me at least.

Can I see where people would like it. Sure. But it just wasn't for me. :\

And yeah all the games seem to have a looooong time to get going from what I've seen of the other versions. And that's part of what threw me off was that long start up time. I shouldn't have to grind and wallow in suck to get to the parts that I actually play games for.

i loved watching this. FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN A REFERENCE TO another of NINTENDO's MASSIVE franchises that wasn't mario. I think he needs to do so more often because i loved the refrence.

Finally! Thank you for reviewing it!
I knew you weren't going to like it, and you wouldn't get to fight the big stuff. I just wanted to hear you complaining like everyone who lacks patience.

I have around 350 hours of gameplay in MHFU (PSP) and I still love it to death, but I wouldn't touch a MMORPG even if my life depended on it.

milskidasith:

manas:
Yahtzee, why do you review shitty games nobody cares about?

It's got an 8.5 on metacritic and it was the number one board on GameFAQs for about two months before RDR stepped up, and it's still at number three below the Xbox and PS3 versions of that, and it has pretty massive sales numbers, and it comes from a series that's incredibly well loved in Japan and has a strong following in the US due to MHFU.

The only way it would be a game nobody cared about was if you'd never touched a PSP, PS2, or a Wii, because the MH series has been huge on all of those.

Well, that might be the reason. I am a civilized man, whose brain works properly, so i know how to use mouse and keyboard. I dont need to use the microwave oven sold by Sony as PS2.

Joemaster240:
i loved watching this. FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN A REFERENCE TO another of NINTENDO's MASSIVE franchises that wasn't mario. I think he needs to do so more often because i loved the refrence.

MH is Capcom. Using caps makes you more wrong.

I bought MH3 on release day here in the US and I played the crap out of it for about a week. Then I noticed I wasn't having any fun playing it. No, I didn't go online to play it because I don't like multiplayer at all in games. I kept chugging at it at guess what? It still wasn't fun. So I took it to a store and traded it for Super Mario Galaxy and Saints Row 2 and had fun playing those.

There are too many games and not enough hours in our lives to waste time on games we don't find fun. If you like MH3, great! Just don't tell people that don't like it that they're missing the point or are wrong in what they find fun.

oh my god nice xD kept laughing at this one
classic ZP, he seriously didn't take a breath/pause amidst all the criticism loll

Ian Allen:

Scrumpmonkey:
Never quite got Monster Hunter. Treid it once. It was possibly one of the worst games i have ever played and i've played a LOT of bad games (i own shaq-fu for christs sake).

I guess the japanophile backlash will be fun to watch for this collosal grind ridden peice of shit. Perhaps that's worth MH existing in the first place. MH is like tentacle porn, makes no sense outside japan and i don't think i want it to.

Yes, anyone who likes it must be a bizzarre japanophile. GRORIOUS NIPPON CAN DO NO WRONG, right?

l2p. There's little to no grinding. You've been spoiled by Halo and COD.

Oh, silly spoiled me. I guess im just used to GOOD GAMES.

manas:

milskidasith:

manas:
Yahtzee, why do you review shitty games nobody cares about?

It's got an 8.5 on metacritic and it was the number one board on GameFAQs for about two months before RDR stepped up, and it's still at number three below the Xbox and PS3 versions of that, and it has pretty massive sales numbers, and it comes from a series that's incredibly well loved in Japan and has a strong following in the US due to MHFU.

The only way it would be a game nobody cared about was if you'd never touched a PSP, PS2, or a Wii, because the MH series has been huge on all of those.

Well, that might be the reason. I am a civilized man, whose brain works properly, so i know how to use mouse and keyboard. I dont need to use the microwave oven sold by Sony as PS2.

What's that smell? Ah yes, a PC elitist.

I saddens me that Yahtzee made the same mistake every reviewer makes when it comes to the MH-Series.
I can't blame him though because he only has about a week to play these games.

Aylaine:

Magnatek:

Aylaine:
Funny review as always. I liked the Dogbaby part. xD

Does the Wii really have a controller like that though? o.o

Yep. The Wii Classic Controller (as it's called) has been out for about as long as the Wii itself, and it's quite effective for Virtual Console games and others. I'm sure Aura has probably used one.

OT: Well, this was an entertaining show, to say the least. I actually like the grind like that, so I still have an interest in the game. I'll give it a rental still, but I'll keep your words in mind.

Ahh, I understand then. I thought it may be some fake image, since he's accustomed to doing them for his Wii reviews sometimes. xD

Yep, since some people have trouble with waving a magic wand around while trying to push the right button. I am one of those people. Whenever I play, I grab a GC controller or a Classic.

Having not played this monster hunter, but having played most of the others, I can say that Yahtzee is almost certainly 100% correct in this. The games are like Demon's Souls with controls that feel less responsive, enemies that hurt more, insane levels of grinding (much of which involves killing really nasty things that you need the new item to beat at all easily), and long times of trekking across the map to get to the actual bosses.

If you want similar difficulty and skill-based combat, Demon's Souls does everything Monster Hunter does a million times better.

Daystar Clarion:

t_rexaur:
No mention of the online and/or multiplayer aspect? Still good episode as always.

On a side note to people actually take what Yatzee says at face value? I mean you'd have to be pretty silly to do that since if you did every game apart from Adventure Island Dizzy would be shit and you'd never play anything, ever.

Agreed.
"OMg, yatzee doesn t like it! must be bhad!"

Form your own opinions.

I don't think it's so much that people go (ZP + thumbsdown = must be bad) as simply (Wii + boxart = must be bad)

oh cool, this time yahtzee took the biggest part of the game, and completely ignored it for the sole purpose of making the game look like shit.

oh, and tri has shorter loading times than the online game, just to letcha know, yahtzee, hater of 3 second load times

I can say i played both monster hunter tri AND Demon's Soul and i can say MH3 combat was that much satisfying, specially online.

It also had more natural and fluid bosses imo, it just felt like it could really exist in real life.

Demon's Soul was harder though

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