Monster Hunter Tri

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Snotnarok:

It's his OPINION people if you don't like it then don't watch his videos, YOU chose to watch it and subject yourself to it so you have yourself to blame. What does it matter if someone doesn't like what you like?

'Opinion' does not mean "I can lie if I want to."

Mindmaker:

Lord_Gremlin:
Some people just... If you ate only dogshit for 13 years you'll probably say that dogshit gets actually tasty after 10 years. And others will answer: what kind of freak are you to feed on dogshit only for 10 years?!!!!!

Same could be said about the people here, listening to their messiah and bashing games without having played them...

Wait wait wait... he's our messiah now? Cripes, I just thought he was a humorist who centered himself and a decently paying career on something he enjoys, and occasionally gives good insight into. Darn. Does that mean all the times I laughed at his videos I was being blasphemous? Is there a holy writ I can review to make sure I have not sinned in the eyes of his imps?

Atmos Duality:

Snotnarok:

It's his OPINION people if you don't like it then don't watch his videos, YOU chose to watch it and subject yourself to it so you have yourself to blame. What does it matter if someone doesn't like what you like?

'Opinion' does not mean "I can lie if I want to."

Then take it for what it is, why does this get on your nerves?

Snotnarok:

Then take it for what it is, why does this get on your nerves?

When people try to defend a bullshit argument, it gets on my nerves.
Not you specifically. But others have tried to excuse it.

When someone willingly accepts a petty lie as excusable, it's saddening.

I don't usually read these threads, but does everyone get so uppity and sanctimonious in defending games they like from one bad review from Yahtzee, or just RPG fans?

I happen to love JRPG's mostly, they have a formula that works for what I enjoy in a videogame a lot of the time. I enjoy watching Yahtzee murder these games, I particularly enjoyed Yahtzee slaughtering FFXIII (which coincidentally I couldn't stand for the reasons he stated), and I enjoy him slaughtering games which I enjoy because, shockingly, reviews are opiniotainment - opinion as entertainment - two things which individually or combined don't really lend themselves to being taken as seriously as some people seem to on here.

And yet Yahtzee actually panders to you idiots with further explanations and justifications of an opinion? And you still give him shit? It's absolutely baffling.

I hardly see what the problem is. I absolutely loved the MH3 review and it's currently my favorite game to play in my free time. I don't care that he doesn't like the games I love, his reviews are still fantastic entertainment. It's his job to tear these things to shreds and make fun of everything. That's just what he does, and he does it fantastically.

i really hate fans of this game and im glad he ripped this game a new one

RaikuFA:
i really hate fans of this game and im glad he ripped this game a new one

Yes, you told us the same thing for like 5 times.
Given that you gave no reason why, we will continue to ignore you.

Thanks for posting.

RaikuFA:
i really hate fans of this game and im glad he ripped this game a new one

You mad bro?
lol Why am I even asking? Of course you are.

Then why the fuck does Yahtzee bother reviewing JRPGs when we know he'll lay the smackdown on them no matter what? Reviews of his such as this one are the WORST because we all know what's coming - rendering them completely and utterly pointless (not to mention dull and unfunny).

Edward123454321:

Carnagath:

Edward123454321:
Can someone who's actually played this game for more than ten hours, tell me if the tutorial is that long?

I've seen about 4 posts here saying "Bah! Ten hours for the tutorial, I'm not getting this game anymore, thanks Yahtzee!" and another 4 saying "The tutorial's about an hour long..."

It's reasons like this I don't trust him nearly as much as a critic as I do a comedian.

Yes, I can tell you responsibly that, unless you are Yahtzee, (clinically depressed because your stupid freaking job demands that you turn on YOUR FUCKING WII of all things and play some shitty Japanese dinosaur game, instead of getting drunk and hitting on girls at your bar, so you crawl drudgingly and aimlessly from one point of the map to another, without any interest whatsoever in enjoying yourself, pausing every 5 minutes to pray to a God that you don't believe in to release you from this torment), then it will not take you more than 90 minutes to get to the "juicy" parts of the game.

Haha yeah, I do feel quite bad for Yahtzee, I'm still in school, so have a lot more spare time than him, and I'd still be fucking miserable if I had only a week to play a game; spew out a video review for it, then write an article on it.

Poor bastard, and if he misses a week he'd have an army of nerds telling him out shit and lazy he is.

Yes it is still a job, but damnit thats better than sitting in an office all day answer a phone. If he doesn't like it, he can quit. That'll show 'em... whomever they are.

Lordofthesuplex:

Nateman742:
This thread is hilarious. If Yahtzee didn't like it he didn't like it; The review was funny regardless. Good show.

Oh no don't use that excuse. That's still no reason for him to say shit like "the Wii's lack of existence would improve the industry." That's the kind of biased propaganda horse shit I could've gotten from the TreyBrotherhood, not someone who actually paid to critique things. There's a difference between not liking a console and just being a plain fucking asshole.

In fact, take a look at his Dethroning Moment of Suck section on TVTropes and see for yourself that I'm not the only one who sees how downhill his credibility as a critic has become: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DethroningMoment/ZeroPunctuation

It's obvious Yahtzee only reviewed this game for one of two problems: 1) He forced into it for the sake of a paycheck since those of us who know better know he hates JRPGs and games with MMO elements or 2) He did it for the same reason he did a review on Wii Sports Resort: to make the system and the people who enjoy it look bad and his ego look good.

So, wait. You actually think he's serious? That he goes home and stews for hours about the Wii and the people playing it, and the only way he can feel better is to bring them down a notch and make money doing so? Yes, this thing he has is called a job, and it pays well I'd imagine. It calls for an opinion piece every week and that means he has to state an opinion. Not a hard concept. It's probably going to be a different opinion than yours, and no amount of whining on an internet forum will change anything. Relax, man. If this is all too much, you can turn it off whenever you want to.

I absolutely agree, I get so pissed off when people pull that excuse "It gets better later on!", this especially happens a ton in MMO's (which I know Yahtzee hates).

Why I would be motivated to chip away at a solid brick wall with a frekking spoon to reach some supposed fun behind it, is beyond me.

The developers obviously seem to expect me to KNOW when exactly the fun is going to start, well big surprise, I'm not going through an excruciatingly boring experience on the pure faith that I'll hit *some* fun part later on.

I perfectly understand there being some *low* bits in a game experience and if timed correctly, these make the *high* parts all the sweeter, but I should be having fun from the moment I step into the damn game.

Fdzzaigl:
I absolutely agree, I get so pissed off when people pull that excuse "It gets better later on!", this especially happens a ton in MMO's (which I know Yahtzee hates).

Why I would be motivated to chip away at a solid brick wall with a frekking spoon to reach some supposed fun behind it, is beyond me.

The developers obviously seem to expect me to KNOW when exactly the fun is going to start, well big surprise, I'm not going through an excruciatingly boring experience on the pure faith that I'll hit *some* fun part later on.

I perfectly understand there being some *low* bits in a game experience and if timed correctly, these make the *high* parts all the sweeter, but I should be having fun from the moment I step into the damn game.

The correct phrasing would have been "It gets EVEN better later on".

You "boldly go, where no man has gone before", as you explore beautiful islands, untouched by human hand.
I know many people would rather have nonstop action, rather than having more of an adventure at the beginning.

I don't see how the first part is not enjoyable, as the monster killing routine sets in soon enough.

This thread makes me think...
People who think Yatzee should have done his job better and played the game longer= Fanboys

People who defend Yatzee and talk about a game they don't know= Right About Everything?

O.o

The only problem I had with the review was that he played it for a max of 2 hours. The tutorial is only 60-90 minutes long. And it's not holding your hand through the entire tutorial either. If you get hurt, the tut pops up and tell your how to heal.

I love when Yatzee bashes a game, but it is not fun when it seems like he didn't even PLAY the game.

That is all.

BTW I loved his review of Alan Wake and I'm in love with Alan Wake at the moment.

kordo:
Then why the fuck does Yahtzee bother reviewing JRPGs when we know he'll lay the smackdown on them no matter what? Reviews of his such as this one are the WORST because we all know what's coming - rendering them completely and utterly pointless (not to mention dull and unfunny).

750 comments.

To be honest, I think the 10 hour tutorial Yahtzee is talking about is just because Yahtzee wasn't aware that the utterly tedious horseshit he was playing was the actual game.

I vaguely remember playing the first Monster Hunter, but I think I lost parts of my memory as it was what turned me to the warm, peaty embrace of good, hard Scotch.

go nana go:
To be fair it wouldn't exist if there wasn't a cheap low-cost system to develop it on (WII) They didn't have the finances to risk making a huge project on the 360/ps3 so they put it on wii, and it paid off. Maybe their next one will be on the high-def systems though.

True, but, in an ideal world where Monster Hunter had no budget restrictions, it's hard to say it would be a better game if placed on a console such as the 360 and PS3.

Not to say the Wii isn't a fun console, but, it's not the same type of console as the Xbox and PS3 in my opinion.

Whenever Yahtzee reviews a game I haven't played yet but will in the future, I wait until I've played through it before I watch his review. When he reviews a game I've never heard of, I watch a couple of gameplay videos before cause I wouldn't want the first impression I get from a game to be accompanied by somebody else's opinion.

In case of this game (and many others before), his review was pretty much exactly what my thoughts were after havig watched ~40 min's of gameplay footage. Title sounds promising, intro sequence looks promising, the actual game - a real letdown :/

i thought i did mention why

ive seen monster hunter fans threaten on forums and real life over others saying they couldnt get in to it. im one of those threatened

I was going to buy this game, but after both these reviews, the time I played it with my brother, and the fans on this board and the way they went about defending it, I'm going to pass. The last time I saw this many fallacies and pouncing on minor points, I was a dissenter at a geocentrist's convention.

I hope it gives you joy, O defenders of Monster Hunter Tri. You just cost your beloved game another sale or more. Of course, given the way your arguments run (and I'm not going through 22 pages of posts just to root out specific examples...I'm a drunk and I'm bored but not THAT obsessive), you'll probably just go "mnyeh mnyeh mnyeh, you're stupid, you haven't played the game, you wouldn't actually hate it otherwise!" and pat yourselves on the back.

Pretty true when it comes down to it. I admit I play the game PSP :MHFU just to play with friends and for the wasting of time between other things in my day. And sure the challenge is some of the fun, but I look into it and see that it is just a bunch of time wasted on Armor and Weapons that are pretty much all the same except the combat styles.

If you are playing a game to pass time it is perfect. But as far as story and other gameplay elements go, it is basic to say the least if it wasn't for the "skills" system or your own knowing when to dip or dodge a blow that is coming next.

TetsuoKaneda:
I was going to buy this game, but after both these reviews, the time I played it with my brother, and the fans on this board and the way they went about defending it, I'm going to pass. The last time I saw this many fallacies and pouncing on minor points, I was a dissenter at a geocentrist's convention.

I hope it gives you joy, O defenders of Monster Hunter Tri. You just cost your beloved game another sale or more. Of course, given the way your arguments run (and I'm not going through 22 pages of posts just to root out specific examples...I'm a drunk and I'm bored but not THAT obsessive), you'll probably just go "mnyeh mnyeh mnyeh, you're stupid, you haven't played the game, you wouldn't actually hate it otherwise!" and pat yourselves on the back.

I'm happy that Yahtzee is driving off noobs like this. You would have just ruined the game for everyone else online by triple carting quests.
Thanks from the community for not buying the game, bro! :D

I don't get this people make a big thing about single player games being to sort them when people try to make them longer you shot at them? longer game = game takes longer to get into its form.

RaikuFA:
i thought i did mention why

ive seen monster hunter fans threaten on forums and real life over others saying they couldnt get in to it. im one of those threatened

I'm not quite sure if I get what you are trying to say.

Nevertheless you can't blame such a thing on the game itself.
There are douchebags in every community.

joshuaayt:

Twinmill5000:

joshuaayt:
Well, at least this'll be the end of it- Tomorrow he'll have a new video, and it will be excellent and everyone will remember how damn awesome Yahtzee videos are.
Else they'll join the hate groups over on tvtropes. I've never seen that many feminists in one thread before...
And yes, I AM amused at the fact that there exists hate groups.

Link pls. I gotta see this lol.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DethroningMoment/ZeroPunctuation
Ok, now I KNOW there used to be more stuff there. The note at the top does say something about removing stuff if it's untrue, so maybe that's what happened to all of it. It's less of a hate group and more a critique spot now...

Heh. Impressive how everyone on that page, no matter how thin-skinned and offended they are, seems to know all of Yahtzee's pet peeves, gaming habits, expressions, and they can quote each of his reviews word-by-word. I guess none of them actually stopped watching yet.

Well, I'm seriously amused by the whole Monster Hunter thing, so I guess Mr. Croshaw did his job better than he usually does. What is this game, anyway? I've never even heard of the series. Under which rock were the fans hiding that they only now jumped out and made a 1500-comment whine?

I'd love it if people could actually play a game before creating an ignorant opinion. You know who you are.

Just goning to put this out there I'm defently a monster hunter fanboy but it's yatzees opinon I mean theres quite a lot of times he's done this before for example his reveiw on oblivoin and there is no point getting annoyed at it

Cingal:

True, but, in an ideal world where Monster Hunter had no budget restrictions, it's hard to say it would be a better game if placed on a console such as the 360 and PS3.

It's not like Capcom couldn't afford to put Monster Hunter on the 360 and PS3 (indeed, Monster Hunter Frontier is coming out on the 360) they put it on the Wii because it's the largest market. It's on the Wii because they wanted it to be, never mind the fact that other consoles might be able to do the game better, or that there was some technical barrier to doing so, they decided the Wii was likely to sell more copies.

Mindmaker:

RaikuFA:
i thought i did mention why

ive seen monster hunter fans threaten on forums and real life over others saying they couldnt get in to it. im one of those threatened

I'm not quite sure if I get what you are trying to say.

Nevertheless you can't blame such a thing on the game itself.
There are douchebags in every community.

well considering the fact that i tried getting help online to do some missions and all i got was threats it can be a real turn off. i was trying to do WHAT THE GAME ENCOURAGES!!! and all i got was "if you cant beat these games, you dont deserve to play games." "im gonna find where you live and beat you to death and break all your games"

plus im a huge megaten fan and ive never seen anyone threaten someone over how to beat a certain monster

Adamc-mh:
Just goning to put this out there I'm defently a monster hunter fanboy but it's yatzees opinon I mean theres quite a lot of times he's done this before for example his reveiw on oblivoin and there is no point getting annoyed at it

Just wish both sides would accept this and move on. ;)

tbh yeah ;D

also the game isn't perfect all that yatzee went over was it's problems just exxagurated them which is what makes his videos funny

GloatingSwine:

It's not like Capcom couldn't afford to put Monster Hunter on the 360 and PS3 (indeed, Monster Hunter Frontier is coming out on the 360) they put it on the Wii because it's the largest market. It's on the Wii because they wanted it to be, never mind the fact that other consoles might be able to do the game better, or that there was some technical barrier to doing so, they decided the Wii was likely to sell more copies.

The reason they stated was "Production costs".

It's debatable, but, we don't know what they had in mind or how much it would cost I guess.

I think the likely reason is as you stated, however, my argument is that the game would be better on another console, which it would have been, it financially, it may not have done as well, but, that doesn't make it a worse game.

Aylaine:

Adamc-mh:
Just goning to put this out there I'm defently a monster hunter fanboy but it's yatzees opinon I mean theres quite a lot of times he's done this before for example his reveiw on oblivoin and there is no point getting annoyed at it

Just wish both sides would accept this and move on. ;)

Well it already happened.
Yahtzee created another video, so the focus kinda shifted.

The new video is quite good, I must say.
Looks that Wii + JRPG really makes a huge difference.

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