Review: Alpha Protocol

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So its another one of Obsidian's "close but no cigar" games eh?
Shame. I really wanted this to be good. This does not give me hope for New Vegas.

Damn, if only Obsidian could get a bit more time on their games.

Kotor 2 could have easily surpassed the first. But seeing how many bugs were in it, how much they cut... its just sad.

And now this. Damn...

Honestly, the only problem I've had so far is in Moscow (Well, two problems, hearing it pronounced Moss-cow, despite probably being right, rubs me the wrong way seeing how used I am to hearing Moss-koe)

Apart from that? Great game.

EDIT - I've heard it said a few times that it's this generation's Vampire the Masquerade : Bloodlines. I'd agree with that, if I'm being honest.

I'm rather enjoying Alpha Protocol. It's not as good as it should have been, but that's Obsidian for you. I wouldn't recommend purchasing it, but it is definitely worth a rental.

Yassen:
I would agree with the retarded AI, and the stealth skill tree just breaks the game difficulty. With enough points you can turn invisible for 20 seconds and then one hit kill every guard in a room and none of them even think "hey our fellow guard was just stabbed in the neck by some invisible force, maybe we should do something?"

Funny, even with all my nifty sight-range reducing gear, Guards STILL saw their buddies fall down, and they still ran over to investigate, which I actually used to my benefit a few times before my Stealth was leveled to "ridiculous" to pull a guard away from a camera or a turret or even out of the sight range of another guard.

I think this video shows my Ms. Arendt is my favorite reviewer.

I am so sad for this game being terrible. I was looking forward to it for soooo long. It had so much going for it. Perhaps I will just get it on the clearance rack at the end of the summer.
Now back to Red Dead.

PS3 must be a bad port, i haven't encountered any of the problems the reviewer had in the Xbox 360 version. Actually i haven't noticed any bugs in the AI that are unique to AP (enemies think they are in cover when they're not fully covered, like Mass Effect, Army of Two (both) Gears of War (both) etc etc etc, just for some reason they're hating on AP for this). Graphics are dated but that's my only complaint so far.

Chipperz:

Yeaaaaahhhh....there's a lot of that in the game. There's another boss fight (I won't spoil it and say with who) that's even more "are you serious?" You just kind of have to roll your eyes and shrug it off.

Is anyone else scared to death for Fallout: New Vegas? I was really excited until I heard Obsidian got their hands on it. Have they ever made a game that wasn't damn near fatally broken? At least Bethesda's many glitches didn't actually take control away from you...

Having now logged in over 50 hours and completing 3 playthroughs (PC on steam) i have found the game quite enjoyable, that's not to say it isn't buggy because it is.

The graphics are dated but that is not a deal breaker for me, there are glitches though textures taking time to load in especially at the market and the occasional jittery frame rate are probably the main ones to mention nothing too game breaking and often not noticed, i have not noticed any control issues except when the frame rate gets jittery on the occasion which will cause you to be pointing in strange directions but nothing too big.

The AI does some odd things such as stop pathing if you move to a different area and come back, not to mention that if you invest in stealth and you have the right armour you can sneak up to them on their side, the occasional enemy that sticks halfway through a wall or door.

On the shooting side (i will say that it could have been a lot better and needs polishing at the least), you must invest in points in your weapon of choice in order to be able to crit them from afar as not waiting for crit shots leads to a ridiculous amount of missed shots, the assault rifle isn't too bad at this as it does fairly often hit but the SMG can miss from point blank range whic is ridiculous; the shotgun will hit almost every time but its damage is too low to be usefull unless again you invest upon which the knockback effect is quite nice; lastly there is the pistol which has so far proven the best weapon especially when invested in, once enough points are put in the range at which you are able to crit increases and you get a skill that allows you to do it from cover so unless the enemy charges which it does sometimes you can sit and kill everything in range.

The voice work in the game is superb and the dialogue in general is great leading to a good story which some great options that have consequences later on.

In all i found it an enjoyable game despite the flaws which it does have and well worth the $80 i spent to play it but at the same time it is not for everyone especially if any of the flaws i mentioned ruin the game for you.

I will end in saying that i enjoyed this game and the comments i make are my opinion which may be biased :P

Chipperz:

So who is looking forward to Fallout: New Vegas? After Alpha Protocol, I'm not.

It's not like the same team is working on 2 projects at the same time though. New Vegas might just be good.

Susan Arendt:

Chipperz:

Yeaaaaahhhh....there's a lot of that in the game. There's another boss fight (I won't spoil it and say with who) that's even more "are you serious?" You just kind of have to roll your eyes and shrug it off.

I played through the PS3 version and had no problems either. So whats that all about?

kasperbbs:
I have it on PC and controls work just fine for me ,except that it sometimes lags when you move mouse around (my pc is pretty powerful ,im not the only one with that problem) and shooting mechanics are terrible ,60% chance that you will miss a headshot even if your target isnt moving and he is pretty close + other problems that the review mentioned. All in all its playable ,i liked the story so far and im a major rpg junkie so i like it ,its not great but i dont wanna play mass effect 2 for the third time yet.

Is this a product of aim issues or it this because of RPG specs for that weapon being too low?

I haven't played Alpha Protocol yet, and I'm so sad that it's a buggy mess. I was excited to play it also. I WANTED IT TO BE GOOD! ): Of course, maybe the PC version is salvageable with a patch?

Is it so wrong to want to be Sam Fischer with RPG stats and dialogue trees?

I was very weary when I first heard of this title and what it wanted to be. Knowing who were making it only made me a bit more apprehensive about it. If I am able to rent it I will probably do that but I didn't plan on buying this game and I was sure there would be issues with it [not that everybody is experiencing those same issues but, dumb AI is dumb AI]

This game did have potential though and it's too bad it was rushed out. What ever happened to hard work in the industry?

Susan Arendt:

Chipperz:

Yeaaaaahhhh....there's a lot of that in the game. There's another boss fight (I won't spoil it and say with who) that's even more "are you serious?" You just kind of have to roll your eyes and shrug it off.

Uuuurgh... Tell me it's not in Taipei, I'm there now (wanted to meet up with Scarlet again, doesn't look like that's happening), and I could do with a segment that doesn't have an uber-boss. It utterly destroys the atmosphere the rest of the game builds up.

If I'm being honest, I think Sis was about the perfect power level for bosses in a game that's trying to be realistic. Great use of cover and her guns, but doesn't take too much damage. Of course, I'm also aware that I'm willing to overlook a great many things when it comes to a cute late-teens girl with purple hair, tattoos and just the right number of piercings :P

Thanatos5150:

Chipperz:

Chipperz:

Susan Arendt:

Chipperz:
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CloudKiller:
Poor Obsidian, and they try so hard....

Ehh...
They'll probably patch this up at some point...
although... its worth noting that the PC version's biggest problem is getting the mouse to cooperate... the bloody thing controls the camera, half of the hacking mini-game, and aims the sniper-rifle... all of which it will invariably erratically fluster about and even worse, will randomly jerk around.
I would happily sacrifice the "precision aiming" that we PC gamers are promised if we could avoid this shit.

But... overall... I rather like this game.
The story is well written and well acted.
The gameplay... while not free of its issues... manages to be pretty fun.

Susan Arendt:

Nimbus:
I never noticed any control problems or visual glitches on the PC version. Bad port maybe?

Quite possibly, yeah. And yes, he really does just go wandering off on his own from time to time. The controller will also just plain stop working - you'll be moving the blocks around to hack a computer and suddenly, nothing works. Very disappointing.

As for the shooting, I could never get the sensitivity to a place where it felt right, so I was constantly swinging back and forth with the reticle. Again, possibly just a bad porting issue.

...sort of sounds a bit like the re-sync bug for the wireless controllers. It's not easy to replicate it, but it happens if you switch controllers, and have some interference going on (like wifi, rockband controllers, other bluetooth devices). It starts, and then it's sluggish until you restart the box.

(Doesn't happen often, but it happens... Sony just seems more interested in sending people more junk-mail than fixing things like that..).

Susan Arendt:
there are far, far better spy games out there.

Any recommendations?
OT: Ah, just what I expected. Weak, weak gameplay but RPG elements good enough for me to constitute a "wait-for-price-drop".

I remember somebody on the forums totally called this several weeks ago.

I'm playing Alpha Protocol on PS3. The game never froze on my system, controller works just fine, Mike is not moving on his own. I'm really surprised that kind of bugs exist.

I actually love this game. Beat it once, now I'm beating it as a Recruit on Hard difficulty mode. Stealth is just fine on Hard, AI is not that dumb anymore (still stupid but not as much as on Normal), and after putting several skill points in Assault Rifles, the shooting part is now pretty comfortable as well.

Minor graphic bugs are not bothering me.

And choices system? Dialog system? Perks system? Reputation system? Brilliant and awesome. I do not regret any of those 60$ (after revaluing from Polish currency) i paid for the game. I feel I'll beat it at least few more times.

I'm really surprised so many reviews are so negative. It surely isn't 'BEST RPG EVAR!', there are some glaring flaws, but 2 stars for game someone is actually enjoying? I always thought 2 stars mean 'Horrible. There are worse things on the Earth, but this is really close', and not 'nice but really flawed'.

I think, in a year AP will become a typical case of cult classic. And I know already I'll be one of leaders of that cult...

Don't let your hopes down on it, folks. It really isn't THAT bad. Rent it if you don't want to buy it, but at least give it a chance.

The concept was fresh and had potential, to bad it got screwed up so harshly

Brainst0rm:
Sad to hear. Obsidian doesn't have such a great track record, does it? And they've just signed on to help with the Wheel of Time RPG...oh dear...

abandon all hope, ye who get excited.

I was thinking about getting this game, partly from the backstory and RPG aspects, but then I got Red Dead Redemption, and I forgot to pick up my pre-order.

now I know just to get that dropped.

but I hope they realize how much of a mess the game is and get some patches in place. Also, are the levels mainly linear? that could explain why the sniper rifle could only be used in a certain spot.

Yossarian1507:
I'm playing Alpha Protocol on PS3. The game never froze on my system, controller works just fine, Mike is not moving on his own. I'm really surprised that kind of bugs exist.

I actually love this game. Beat it once, now I'm beating it as a Recruit on Hard difficulty mode. Stealth is just fine on Hard, AI is not that dumb anymore (still stupid but not as much as on Normal), and after putting several skill points in Assault Rifles, the shooting part is now pretty comfortable as well.

Minor graphic bugs are not bothering me.

And choices system? Dialog system? Perks system? Reputation system? Brilliant and awesome. I do not regret any of those 60$ (after revaluing from Polish currency) i paid for the game. I feel I'll beat it at least few more times.

I'm really surprised so many reviews are so negative. It surely isn't 'BEST RPG EVAR!', there are some glaring flaws, but 2 stars for game someone is actually enjoying? I always thought 2 stars mean 'Horrible. There are worse things on the Earth, but this is really close', and not 'nice but really flawed'.

I think, in a year AP will become a typical case of cult classic. And I know already I'll be one of leaders of that cult...

Don't let your hopes down on it, folks. It really isn't THAT bad. Rent it if you don't want to buy it, but at least give it a chance.

If it weren't for the bugs, I'd have given the game a 3. It's still only half a game, but there's fun to be had. But given how broken it is, I had to mark it down.

Also, just because I enjoy a game, that doesn't mean the game is good. When reviewing a game, you have to keep the greater audience in mind. Sure, I enjoy that the AI is so stupid they never hear me coming, because I'm really lousy at stealth, but will the typical person looking for a fun spy experience feel the same way? Probably not. And while I might be willing to put up with intermittent control issues because I find the RPG elements to be a hoot, it's unreasonable to expect the same of someone else. All I can do is tell people that these things happen and let them decide how to proceed.

I've got the game, and it's alright. Finished it a couple of days ago mainly 'cause I forced myself to play through the game 'cause I had been looking forward to it for so long. It's a bloody shame it turned out this way it had TONS of potential.

I dunno. I find that sometimes I like a game that isn't well received. I'll still try it just to be sure.

All these bugs being mentioned in the reviews really surprise me, playing on the PC the only problems I've noticed is occasionally when up against a wall the textures of it will jump in front of the screen (rectified by moving away from that section), inconsistent AI(sometimes they'll completely ignore the corpse right in front of them other times they'll rush over from the other end of the room and set the entire area on alert and for some reason the invisibility skill doesn't switch off if you use a stealth take-down (if it's intentional that's rather poor game design.

I've never had an occasion where the enemies couldn't spot me if they were looking directly my way which made the auto invisibility 'panic button' a life saver, and it can be fun to just try and ignore them entirely, slipping through the breaks in their patrols.
That said gunplay is horrible and finding sections where they force you to break stealth despite it being otherwise possible to get through using non gun skills only. The AI seems to have been an attempt to avoid the excessively punitive systems that some stealth games have put ended up going too far back.
The game may not have the most polish around but it didn't have the biggest budget around either, with someone like Bioware I wouldn't let this fly but for a more minor company like Obsidian this does get a pass since the game remains enjoyable

I find it amusing that the game that is spamming ads all over the site got a bad review by the site. Also, good job escapist, you have honor.

I am playing this on the PC and loving it! No, it is not polished, if minor bugs annoy you give it a miss.

If you love RPGs and story based games play this now.

This isn't worth the full retail price. A girl literally went beserk when she found out, I warned her because I had first-hand experience with the game.

Either way, the premise and potential was great..But it lacks the execution. A waste of good money if you ask me. Not that I paid it, I visited my friend with his PS3 copy.

Not surprised since Obsidian did a horrible job with KOTOR 2. At least they are a consistently buggy and unimpressive studio. ;)

thenumberthirteen:
Aww. I liked the sound of this game. An RPG that isn't all about wizards. If they patch the bugs maybe I'll rent it, or buy it cheap.

Have you tried Borderlands? Or perhaps Fallout 3?

There are plenty of RPGs not involving fantasy...

Im still going to try it, ssee how the story is and what not.

thenumberthirteen:
Aww. I liked the sound of this game. An RPG that isn't all about wizards. If they patch the bugs maybe I'll rent it, or buy it cheap.

Me too, I was really hoping this game wouldn't suck... guess that's what I get for getting my hopes up.

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