Science!: iPads and Dolphins

Science!: iPads and Dolphins

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Damn. These articles are always so interesting. I mean life on mars... I was totally expecting jelous aliens but knowing there may be bacteria that is "Alien" is cool.

I moved around all the time when I was a kid. :(

In fact, I've lived in the same place for 4 years now, and I think that's the longest I've ever lived in one place so far. It's a miracle I grew up to be the well-adjusted person I am today!

*twitch*

for me the article on page one seems pretty accurate

I remember the Mars story, or at least about significant water once been there. Read it on BBC. It wouldnt surprise me, if, something had existed there long before we were born to this world

woah, didn't know temperatures on mars actually got above 0 degrees C. Iiiinteresting, alien life, even on a microscopic level, being found in my lifetime would be le awesome.

Too late to read all the article but I've moved 5 times as a kid, and...Yeah, that makes sense.

That Ipad/Dolphin thing is amazing.Finally we will be able to communicate with ze dolphinz.And zen I shall rule ze werld.

Jaredin:
I remember the Mars story, or at least about significant water once been there. Read it on BBC. It wouldnt surprise me, if, something had existed there long before we were born to this world

Indeed. We need to get up there already and discover the Protheans!

...

Yeah, I've been playing lots of Mass Effect lately, what of it?

Life, like everything, adapts.
Methane breathing bacteria? sounds like James Cameron was onto something.
This would make terraforming alittle bit harder to manage on planets, especially in other solar systems (if or whenever man figures out how to leave the solar system) when you'll have two opposing ecosystems.
As for the Dolphin thing, Dolphins are no better than a semi-sentient animal that can interact with objects in a better way then most others. I would'nt be too conscerned with what they're trying to say, they'll still swim around in the ocean. They don't have an underwater civilization.

The article on children that move around alot seemed very accurate. I have a nephew who has moved around since birth and with alot of family issues make him look very emotionally damaged.

Nice articles, enjoyed the read.

That makes so much sense! I now know why I'm a fucknut! It's because I moved 14 times before the age of 16!

RanD00M:
That Ipad/Dolphin thing is amazing.Finally we will be able to communicate with ze dolphinz.And zen I shall rule ze werld.

Wait until they translate the clicking and find out it's the dolphin ranting about all the stupid things humans make it do just so it can get some fish.

And just like that, capitalism proves its impact on society by turning a commercial product into a dolphin-human translator.

Kingtrue:
Life, like everything, adapts.
Methane breathing bacteria? sounds like James Cameron was onto something.

The idea of bacteria breathing methane was around long before Cameron.

Proof (more or less) of life on other worlds, que the religous groups of the world backpedeling.

Jaredin:
I remember the Mars story, or at least about significant water once been there. Read it on BBC. It wouldnt surprise me, if, something had existed there long before we were born to this world

I personally was thinking about that truely amazing programme called Wonders of the Solar System. It had an episode about aliens, and I reckon if you have an interest in these things it's certainly worth a look. The presenter, Brian Cox is brilliant.

My word, the iPad has a use!

Usual good articles, always a pleasure to read. Maybe one day we can be lucky enough to meet these Martian bacteria, let's just hope they aren't the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I guess we will find out once this isolation test is done ready for the Mars mission.

Formica Archonis:

RanD00M:
That Ipad/Dolphin thing is amazing.Finally we will be able to communicate with ze dolphinz.And zen I shall rule ze werld.

Wait until they translate the clicking and find out it's the dolphin ranting about all the stupid things humans make it do just so it can get some fish.

Makes me wonder what we'll have to do if it turns out that dolphins are actually an intelligent species - I mean, can we really keep an animal we can hold a conversation with locked up in zoos and used as research subjects? New ethical quandaries for dealing with intelligent species other than ourselves...

Wicky_42:

Formica Archonis:

Wait until they translate the clicking and find out it's the dolphin ranting about all the stupid things humans make it do just so it can get some fish.

Makes me wonder what we'll have to do if it turns out that dolphins are actually an intelligent species - I mean, can we really keep an animal we can hold a conversation with locked up in zoos and used as research subjects? New ethical quandaries for dealing with intelligent species other than ourselves...

Well, better we have the problem to deal with than not know the problem even exists.

Sounds like Apple is just trying to appeal to an untapped market: underwater mammals. Good luck getting a dolphin to pay for an IPad!
Thing is... why is there already an app to translate dolphin noises? The IPad is less than a year old, so that must mean they were developing the app possibly for the IPhone. Either way, it's just plain weird. This is probably the ONE time that Aquaman would be useful!

Sorry, but the relocation thing just doesn't hold true for me. I'm 23, moved 26 times (one place for 6 years), over 3 continents including USA UK and Australia, and I am very sociable friendly, and I have a great amount of people who care about me and come and visit me or vice versa. I am also quite successful career wise. The rest of the article was interesting though

Verlander:
Sorry, but the relocation thing just doesn't hold true for me. I'm 23, moved 26 times (one place for 6 years), over 3 continents including USA UK and Australia, and I am very sociable friendly, and I have a great amount of people who care about me and come and visit me or vice versa. I am also quite successful career wise. The rest of the article was interesting though

Conversely, I'm 24, never moved ever except for once when I was a baby, and right now have exactly no friends. I'm not neurotic, though. I think O_o

The idea that we're not as smart as dolphins makes me very happy. Presumably, they hang around our aquariums to keep us as pets.

I wonder how the Mars bacteria and the life development theories relate to the panspermia theory. (Panspermia, as the great T-Rex once said, meaning spreading your sperm everywhere.)

Irridium:

Jaredin:
I remember the Mars story, or at least about significant water once been there. Read it on BBC. It wouldnt surprise me, if, something had existed there long before we were born to this world

Indeed. We need to get up there already and discover the Protheans!

...

Yeah, I've been playing lots of Mass Effect lately, what of it?

I'm tired of your snide insinuations. *Falcon punch*

Formica Archonis:

RanD00M:
That Ipad/Dolphin thing is amazing.Finally we will be able to communicate with ze dolphinz.And zen I shall rule ze werld.

Wait until they translate the clicking and find out it's the dolphin ranting about all the stupid things humans make it do just so it can get some fish.

Arrr, the year of the dolphin is at hand.

Bacterial life that could live on mars...only in Canada eh?

008Zulu:

Kingtrue:
Life, like everything, adapts.
Methane breathing bacteria? sounds like James Cameron was onto something.

The idea of bacteria breathing methane was around long before Cameron.

Proof (more or less) of life on other worlds, que the religous groups of the world backpedeling.

What backpedaling? OH NOES! GOD CREATED A TYPE OF LIFE THAT CAN EXIST ON ANOTHER PLANET! I can't speak for other religions, but the fact that life can exist on other plants is not a problem in Christianity. Why you may ask? In Christianity, one of God's attributes is creativity. The Bible is full of passages discussing, contemplating, and simply marveling at God's artistic prowess. It would not be outside of his character to create life on other worlds. In fact, that possibility has been and still is seriously discussed within the theological community.

Even if this is just a jab at fundamentalist, it still doesn't work because the idea of a creative god is shared among all Christian denominations. The debate among Young Earth Creationists, Old Earth Creationists, and Theological Evolutionists is about how to best interpret the Genesis Account, not whether there's life outside of Earth.

I am curious how methane eating bacteria constitutes proof of life on other planets? This discovery has simply reinforced the hypothesis that carbon based life can exist on Mars. We still don't know if there is life outside of Earth, and that can only be resolved if we find life, or explore all of the Universe. Incidentally, because the only way to falsify the E.T. life hypothesis is to EXPLORE THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, it is not a valid scientific hypothesis. It does not mean that it is untrue, just that there is no experiment that can be performed to validate it (the same goes for God).

Wicky_42:

Makes me wonder what we'll have to do if it turns out that dolphins are actually an intelligent species - I mean, can we really keep an animal we can hold a conversation with locked up in zoos and used as research subjects? New ethical quandaries for dealing with intelligent species other than ourselves...

We already know that dolphins are intelligent, we just don't have away to gauge how intelligent they are in relation to us.

Methane-consuming organisms that can survive in the Lost Hammer springs might be able to survive on Mars, but life originating there is a completely different matter. The important question isn't whether a planet can support life, but if it can create life.

Speaking of which, even though Jupiter's moon Titan lacks liquid water, there are clues that it may be supporting life based on methane/ethane as a solvent!

"Relocating Too Often as a Kid Makes You Neurotic"
:(

Verlander:
Sorry, but the relocation thing just doesn't hold true for me. I'm 23, moved 26 times (one place for 6 years), over 3 continents including USA UK and Australia, and I am very sociable friendly, and I have a great amount of people who care about me and come and visit me or vice versa. I am also quite successful career wise. The rest of the article was interesting though

An extrovert perhaps?

Lived in one place for my entire life.

I MUST BE A SUPERHUMAN BY NOW!

The Random One:

Verlander:
Sorry, but the relocation thing just doesn't hold true for me. I'm 23, moved 26 times (one place for 6 years), over 3 continents including USA UK and Australia, and I am very sociable friendly, and I have a great amount of people who care about me and come and visit me or vice versa. I am also quite successful career wise. The rest of the article was interesting though

Conversely, I'm 24, never moved ever except for once when I was a baby, and right now have exactly no friends. I'm not neurotic, though. I think O_o

The idea that we're not as smart as dolphins makes me very happy. Presumably, they hang around our aquariums to keep us as pets.

I wonder how the Mars bacteria and the life development theories relate to the panspermia theory. (Panspermia, as the great T-Rex once said, meaning spreading your sperm everywhere.)

Ha, I think everyone is individual. I can see how moving may make you more introverted, but I don't think it's a major cause

Will the dolphins say "so long, and thanks for all the fish"?

I chuckled - Heh.

Yeah, science is awesome.

Ironlenny:
What backpedaling? OH NOES! GOD CREATED A TYPE OF LIFE THAT CAN EXIST ON ANOTHER PLANET! I can't speak for other religions, but the fact that life can exist on other plants is not a problem in Christianity. Why you may ask? In Christianity, one of God's attributes is creativity. The Bible is full of passages discussing, contemplating, and simply marveling at God's artistic prowess. It would not be outside of his character to create life on other worlds. In fact, that possibility has been and still is seriously discussed within the theological community.

Almost all my life I have heard or read how the religious types say that intelligent life only exists on this planet because thats the way God wanted it to be. Life on other planets is impossible.

There is also a theory that life started near the thermal fountains under the oceans. If earth was covered in ice but there were oceans under the ice because of the pressure... well, that's a theory.

008Zulu:

Almost all my life I have heard or read how the religious types say that intelligent life only exists on this planet because thats the way God wanted it to be. Life on other planets is impossible.

Who ever you're referring to are morons.

 

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