Zero Punctuation: Alpha Protocol

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dancinginfernal:
I wasn't expecting Yahtzee to be one of the few critics not to bitch and moan about the skill-based shooting.

That's because he's secretly a Deus Ex cultist.

Well, not so secretly now, I guess.

A spy RPG you say? Sounds intriguing! Whats that you say? The game sucks? Oh well...more wasted potential...

Sinclose:
Why the hell was Kevin Conroy, the voice of Batman in the DCAU in the spectrum of 'dicks and assholes'?

Other than that, was a great video. Keep up the good work Yahtzee, and good luck with your book! ^_^

So I wasn't imagining that! O.o

I, too, am perplexed...

Still, it's Yahtzee. I'm sure he just used to bait anyone who actually knows who the actor is.
Egg on our face, really.

I can't think what those JB's have in specially common. One of them is an actual actor and another is played by many people. Bauer doesn't romance people. Traditionally James Bond doesn't kick ass. Sort of a pansy, gets caught a lot. Captain Jack doesn't stop terrorists. If he did they were probably aliens.

...
I agree, need more granularity in simulation dickishness.

So is next week the E3 massicare?

Soviet Heavy:

Sinclose:
Why the hell was Kevin Conroy, the voice of Batman in the DCAU in the spectrum of 'dicks and assholes'?

Other than that, was a great video. Keep up the good work Yahtzee, and good luck with your book! ^_^

Because, Kevin Conroy plays Batman as an asshole. Did you watch Batman Beyond? He's a complete dick!

YOU try putting up with Terry McGinnis 7 nights a week! lol

I don't really wanna go through eight pages looking for answers, so... who the heck is John Barrowman? Is he some obscure Australian thing a stupid, narrow-minded American wouldn't know about?

Is anyone else unable to watch the video in fullscreen?

Wow, I am actually more willing to give this game a try now that I've seen his review than the normal vice versa. That's odd.

Re-installing Deus Ex right now... Its a shame really , i just bet this game tried to bring decent rpg gameplay to an era dominated by mediocre shooters. Vampire the masquerade bloodlines had an incredible atmosphere. Suddenly I fell old and out of place, like a swordsman amidst gun fanatics. Could someone tell me honestly if the game is worth playing?

Btw if some of you didn't get it, he liked this game. Comparing something to Deus Ex and criticizing them is like saying something your wife painted is "A lot like Monet, but worse"

ilion:
Re-installing Deus Ex right now... Its a shame really , i just bet this game tried to bring decent rpg gameplay to an era dominated by mediocre shooters. Vampire the masquerade bloodlines had an incredible atmosphere. Suddenly I fell old and out of place, like a swordsman amidst gun fanatics. Could someone tell me honestly if the game is worth playing?

Yes.

McMarbles:
I don't really wanna go through eight pages looking for answers, so... who the heck is John Barrowman? Is he some obscure Australian thing a stupid, narrow-minded American wouldn't know about?

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He played Captain jack in the Doctor Who spin-off "Torchwood", a very sexually active spy who killed aliens.

EDIT: It's an English show, with a little popularity in America, so it's not unreasonable that you wouldn't know him.

There's little skill involved playing AP. It's completely unrealistic (although I can't remember anyone claiming it would be) and the bug levels are at O, for Obsidian. But it's fun, and that's pretty much what I want out of my video games :)

ilion:
Re-installing Deus Ex right now... Its a shame really , i just bet this game tried to bring decent rpg gameplay to an era dominated by mediocre shooters. Vampire the masquerade bloodlines had an incredible atmosphere. Suddenly I fell old and out of place, like a swordsman amidst gun fanatics. Could someone tell me honestly if the game is worth playing?

If you enjoyed Vampire, then most definitely yes. You will enjoy this. Yahtzee was right about a few things though he really didn't get the story right. And he barely touched the level of effect your actions can have on the storyline.

I really believe that games for the next ten years are going to be trying to emulate the level of choice in this game.

What's this about your novel? Wish there was something on the end of this video to enlighten me.

3 JBs (although knowing which one in what category is a bit harder )
:P

I'm with Yahtzee...that boss was a jerk!
Interesting review though, I'm also with him in that I don't find the combat THAT horrible, or at least I wouldn't if the game were better balanced.

stealth and using fists is the most fun thing to do in any game because you have ultimate power as long as you do it right. So your not just running around and saying DON'T LOOK AT ME I'M STEALTHING or shotgunning people with puppies on fire that explode instakilling everyone in the room. hell bio shock had this and it was awesome because they let you sneak and hit people in the back with your led pipe freezing them and if they touch you they die from getting shocked by electricity. man I miss bioshock.

Wow, he actually liked it or am I missing something? The moment I heard of this game (all I heard being "spy RPG" and my love for stealth and RPGs has never before been properly unified), I felt like Anthony Kiedis seeing Rosie for the first time (cookie for getting it, not being a fanboi btw just avoiding the profanity of the quote :P ). So I came around here looking for info.

First I found a thread linking Destructoid and GameSpot or sth reviews, that properly decimated the game. While I took it with a grain of salt considering the reviewers, after visiting Metacritic I saw it wasn't far off the mark and finally Susan Arendt's review of the game came out where she confirmed all the buggy fears I had. So I left my pony bleeding behind the chemical sheds and moved on...

Now I come on ZP for my Wednesday fix, my first thought after seeing AP being "ah damn, at least challenge him in ripping a game apart, everyone else did this one already"... and he gives it a (pretty much) positive review. Well shave my legs and call me grandpa, I'll bite and give it a bloody go. I know the bugs will be there, but if he put more emphasis on what's good about the game than the bugs... to hell with it, it's worth a shot.

PS
Congratulations Yahtzee for finally making me want to express my opinion enough to go through the registration process!

There is only one JB. James Mother Fucking Brown

Vrach, I suspect you are missing many things.

You know, I think Yahtzee actually liked this game.
Despite all of it's flaws, it has a lot of potential.

Sneaking around, whacking dudes around the head, I had a lot of fun in this game.

One of his best in awhile.

Still perplexed that, Kevin Conroy? he's a jerk?

The fact that Yahtzee may have enjoyed AP shows how far off modern day reviewers are. If the original Deus Ex or V:tM Bloodlines came out tomorrow, the American gaming press would rip them to shreds for subpar graphics (even compared to other games at the time), bad A.I., wonky controls, and bugginess.

Caligulove:
One of his best in awhile.

Still perplexed that, Kevin Conroy? he's a jerk?

Yeah that came across a little weird to me...

Kevin Conroy constantly does charity work... and is Batman. If he's referencing to how he voices Batman then it's quite understandable. Batman's dickish charm is what makes him so entertaining. Honestly how can he not be cocky when he's the most capable fictional character since Jesus?

Huh... I agree with Yahtzee about that stupidly cheap melee boss, but playing the PC version I found the hacking system to be clumsy and irritating, more often than not forcing me to take the "blood wallpaper" approach simply because I couldn't get the twitchy thing to work properly first time round... The lockpicking and keypad screwing-with minigames worked fine though.

One utterly arbitrary and assinine aspect that I was hoping Yahtzee would thrash but didn't even mention was the weapon-carrying system, a limit of two despite the fact that the SMGs and Pistol each occupy their own entirely seperate places on Thornton's body than the assualt rifle and shotgun, (which ar the opnly ones to share a zone) meaning that more often than not you'd be mocked with an annoying, pointless empty chest-holster. This isn't provoking stratic planning, this is arbitrarily hamstringing the player in terms of flexibility in-mission, for a reason that the "logic" or "realism" utterly fails to justify.

Wow an actual positive review. A favorable comparison with Deus Ex, one leg of the holy trinity of best games ever made that is Deus Ex, System Shock 2, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

I'll wait for the first big patch and inevitable DLC and then buy this game.

Even though Yahtzee allegedly doesn't read these comments, it would be nice to know what system he played the game on. The system selection a big part of how good the experience is. FPS games that require accuracy are way better on the PC with keyboard and mouse movements. But the interface of console ports always sucks on the PC.

John Barrowman FTMFW

leviadragon99:
Huh... I agree with Yahtzee about that stupidly cheap melee boss, but playing the PC version I found the hacking system to be stupidly clumsy and irritating, more often than not forcing me to take the "blood wallpaper" approach simply because I couldn't get the twitchy thing to work properly first time round... The lockpicking and keypad screwing-with minigames worked fine though.

One utterly arbitrary and assinine aspect that I was hoping Yahtzee would thrash but didn't even mention was the weapon-carrying system, a limit of two despite the fact that the SMGs and Pistol each occupy their own entirely seperate places on Thornton's body than the assualt rifle and shotgun, (which ar the opnly ones to share a zone) meaning that more often than not you'd be mocked with an annoying, pointless empty chest-holster. This isn't provoking stratic planning, this is arbitrarily hamstringing the player in terms of flexibility in-mission, for a reason that the "logic" or "realism" utterly fails to justify.

Not to mention that in the cutscenes where you menace or interrogate people you are holding a pistol even if you don't have one equipped.
I finished the game 3 times, and every time I went with a different character build and choices.

The gameplay is quite flexible, you can play it as a basic TPS (assault rifles, and endurance are a must plus another skill of your choosing) or as a stealth action game (stealth, pistols and electronics), or you can play it as a hybrid (assault rifles, stealth and electronics).
I haven't seen anything like this since Deus EX.

I played the PC version and the bugs were not so bad. The AI was decent and quite true to the dossiers (different factions had different combat styles). The only thing that pissed me off was the hacking minigame, but that could easily be avoided by EMP grenades.

It's kinda weird that Yahtzee brings up Deus Ex, because I just last week picked it up again.

I stopped playing in the middle of the game -- in Hong Kong about to wreck the Universal Constructor -- sometime around 2003 (according to the dates on the saved games). I picked it up again a few days ago and started noodling around.

"Oh, joy," I thought, after finally finishing in Hong Kong, "Hell's fscking Kitchen for the fourth fscking time," and very nearly dropped it again. But I pushed through it, and am now in the process of scuttling the superfreighter. Apparently I'm a little more than halfway through the game.

The thing that bothers me about stealth-em-ups is that the player is so brittle -- and I'm so damned methodical -- that after painstakingly working my way through an area (without saving, natch) death often springs out at me and I have to start over. And you can't replay the same segment any faster, because often you have to wait in the same places for the same guards to move in the optimal phasing necessary to slip by undetected. (I also make it harder on myself by trying to avoid inflicting fatalities). I stopped playing Thief: The Dark Project in the middle for the same reasons.

All I have to say is, the ending better kick ass, or I'm going to be annoyed.

(Just for laughs, I fired up the multiplayer server browser, and found there are still active servers! Amazing!)

McMarbles:
I don't really wanna go through eight pages looking for answers, so... who the heck is John Barrowman? Is he some obscure Australian thing a stupid, narrow-minded American wouldn't know about?

You'd know him if you watched New Who (Dr. Who) or Torchwood. He plays Captain Jack Harkness.

Apophenia Overload:
The fact that Yahtzee may have enjoyed AP shows how far off modern day reviewers are. If the original Deus Ex or V:tM Bloodlines came out tomorrow, the American gaming press would rip them to shreds for subpar graphics (even compared to other games at the time), bad A.I., wonky controls, and bugginess.

Would? I thought they already DID that back when they came out, V:tM Bloodlines especially. They became cult classics (or just general classics) anyway despite the bad press. A lot of people have mentioned that the reception Alpha Protocol has received was just like that of Bloodlines when it was released. There's a lot of similarities between these three games.

RhomCo:

dancinginfernal:
I wasn't expecting Yahtzee to be one of the few critics not to bitch and moan about the skill-based shooting.

That's because he's secretly a Deus Ex cultist.

Which pleases me immensely, and compelled me to venture back to his Guitar Hero review to hear that song of his.

Please please can Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands be reviewed next! :)

A good video as always.

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