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Spinozaad:

RobCoxxy:

Spinozaad:
Genderizing everything makes this misogynist a sad man.

Not everything is about penises or vagina's. Some times it's just about pretending to have a big gun, and killing stuff.

"OH BUT THE BIG GUN IS A PHALLIC SYMBOL" :P

Yeah... Well... SO IS A WOMAN'S FINGER!
And... eh... MY PENIS. Oh, wait. Yeah...

Anyway. I feel that most games featuring macho gorilla monkey men wearing space armour protagonists who grunt and growl at women while fingering their triggers are aimed at teenagers/young-adults.

They like that. Just as much as they like boobies. There is no Freudian attitude. Some times people are, in my honest opinion, trying too hard to find psychological depth in every thing. Some times a turd is, indeed, just a pile of shit and not a statement.

True, true, but after Studying Psychology for a few years, I've seen it fit to throw Freudian analysis into anything. ANYTHING. :)
Good fun, but the only reason. I mean yes, there's something phallic about gigantic weapons, but I think it's hilarious.

I missed the meeting we had when it was decided that video games are some sort of social view into the lives of "adolescent-men". When I play a game its usually to unwind from a stressful day at work or on my day off when I don't have anything better to do. I don't have any secret wants to beat people to death with a golf club or trade bottle caps to a doctor and then shoot him to death and steal them back, it's mostly about just having fun and taking a load off. I think a lot of these games make easy targets for feminists, but who gives a shit about their tired propaganda anyway. Personally, I don't like to play as a female protagonist in games but there have been some that I've enjoyed. I always enjoy popping some other player across the ocean in the head with a SIG 550 in R6:Vegas, chainsawing some evil locust bastard in half with a lancer, or trying to punching the reporter on the Citadel as Shepard in Mass Effect 2. These things are fun, not some secret hidden fear of not being able to prove my masculinity. If there's some sort of problem that society has with that, so what? It wasn't until the industry was pulling in billions of dollars that anyone other than those who participated in the gaming community gave a shit.

This was an interesting article I missed the first time around, so I'm actually glad it was posted again for me to see.

However, while I feel it was interesting, I don't actually feel it was completely accurate. Or, rather, it sort of feels like the author was digging a bit too hard to find meaning in the scenes he used as examples. You can take ANY scene from ANY game and sit down and pick at it and probably find something that you could apply some sort of psychological subtext to. As far as Grand Theft Auto goes, I am a lady, and I have never been offended by any of the content in it; GTA 4 is still one of my favourite games. Anyway, isn't the whole point of that series that it's cartoonishly overblown in EVERY aspect? So much of it is done DELIBERATELY to offend/excite interest that I can't see getting worked up about it or taking any hidden meaning from it.

Also, as far as gaming journalism goes, well, I guess it depends on what part of gaming culture you look at. It seems like the indie scene has a lot more females active in the media aspect than the "professional" scene. IE, I (a lady!) write for an online indie gaming review source, and we have several other women on staff currently, and have had others come and go. Don't see many female names cropping up over at IGN or in the credits in most gaming magazines, but I don't think there's a hidden agenda to it. We're out there. Just apparently not where you're looking.

Actually, the most personally offensive game I've come across is actually the indie title The Path by Tale of Tales. The whole point of that game is to wander around the woods as young women of varying ages until something terrible happens to them (usually implied rape/death) and then to watch them stagger slowly and brokenly along the walkway to Grandma's House, whereupon you get treated to an artsy sequence of random imagery before you do it all over again with another little girl. For me that's a hundred times worse than Nico Bellic being bored by the vapid female characters in GTA just so he can get them into bed. I can usually look at anything and say, "Well, I don't get it, but someone must like it," but I literally do not see how anyone can play that game and see it for anything but the most pointless sort of torture porn pretending to be an art game.

On the subject of GTA, though, I was thinking recently that I would like to see a female protagonist in one of the games. Not for gender balance issues, but because it would probably silence a lot of the "ROCKSTAR HATES WOMEN" clamour if the next game featured a female playable character as over-the-top violent as Tommy Vercetti, or battered psychologically as Nico Bellic. I'd like to see what sort of female lead they'd give us, and I'd hope they wouldn't tone the world down for her. Of course, if it never happens, meh.

"Our secular culture produces all kinds of fear, including fear of the female anatomy."

I literally lol'd at this and had to stop reading for a minute to regain my composure. Our secular culture does not, in any way, shape, or form, "fear" female anatomy. Quite the opposite, actually, to the point that it's hard to get away from it.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/5/7/

This article has informed me on a number of things... one of which is: don't play Dante's Inferno.

I liked the article. seems like a few others are having issues with it, but maybe it's just hitting too close to home for them - or they didn't read it entirely. good read.

Is anyone else on the forums as sick of being told that you are a vaginaphobic, mentally imature overly macho man as I am?
Mr Pitts if you are reading this please stop putting this type of thing into the Weekly Magazine, even if it is just for filler, because now logging onto the escapist to read the magazine feels like listening too a recording of a Fraudian analysis seminar being given by a scalding mother (deliberate irony) who is speaking directly to you and only to you.
Quote as many statistics as you want but remember that statistics mean nothing to individual. The only people who give a flying toss about statistics are douches in suits and people who make funny t-shirts... and since your tshirts don't do math jokes, you may want too quit with the numbers relative to other numbers before you start too feel like a british newspaper.

I read a scientific article on the way men and women's sex appeal works. Obviously it was generalizing, but the reason guys don't randomly strip unlike women characters is because visual stuff doesn't appeal as much to heterosexual women as it does to hetero men. I can't remember the article.

OTOH, the "Women aren't turned on by visuals" meme is pretty heavily saturated in society, meaning that most women have been told they're not supposed to be aroused by visuals. I've *also* seen a "scientific" study that, like, strapped electrodes to naughty bits or something pleasant like that and discovered that:

1. the women swore blind that they weren't turned on by the visuals
2. the readouts said otherwise!

If you ask a sex-positive feminist they'll probably bemoan how this shows that modern women have been so shamed and disconnected from their own sexuality that they can't even tell if they're aroused or not. Ask a less sex-positive feminist and the explanation you'll get is that they're just too ashamed to admit it even to a scientist studying their mysterious womanly urges.

Of course, if you want to see a really stupid debate about visuals and male/female appeal, check the comments threads on games involving long-haired bishonen. The fangirls are positively drooling and wriggling in their seats with excitement, while a bunch of confused men either call the game "gay" or say that the fangirls must all be lesbians, cause THOSE AIN'T REAL MEN!

Quote as many statistics as you want but remember that statistics mean nothing to individual. The only people who give a flying toss about statistics are douches in suits and people who make funny t-shirts...

Unfortunately some of those douches in suits are the marketing department who suggest that all gamers want X and we must shoehorn X into our next release! :)

This made for an interesting read, but the article doesn't account for a lot of factors, like players who don't flock to "M" rated games.

I'm all for feminism, but the ideology isn't without it's flaws. They could just as easily say that "the princess is in another castle" is just another power fantasy: being the hero, saving the day, getting the girl. Is saving the princess the real motivator for playing a Mario game, though? Ask half the people that like playing as the plumber, and they'll tell you that they couldn't give a rip about Princess Peach, or whatever they're calling her, these days.

Obviously, there are people out there who genuinely enjoy beating a virtual hooker to death after she get her knees dirty...I'm not one of those people. I've never played a GTA game, even though I own several of them, and the only time I really enjoy pumping some lead into a body, is when the receiver of bullets is an alien, or the opposite army in a war. Killing innocent civilians in realistic cityscapes is not something I will ever enjoy - I'll still probably go back and play GTA 3 to San Andreas, but those games aren't meant to be realistic (you can drive a tank, for gosh sakes!).

Honestly, stereotyping should be criminal. Someone said that men get attraction from looks more than women, but I know plenty of women who are all too caught up with a guy's appearance vs. his work ethic. If you want to think that videogames are just power fantasies for the men of the world, you go ahead and think that. For me, videogames have always been a fun distraction, a challenge to overcome, something to play with others for a laugh or even for some serious competition.

That's a pretty awesome graphic for the article. For some reason it feels very Age of Conan.

A little unsettling, too, with those nails, but still awesome.

I suppose that means it does a good job of quietly underscoring the article's point. ;p

Freud 10-Society 0

make a game where the goal is to out perorm and backstab our friends, liek Mario Kart, and women will eat it up.

I'm gay and so this article both doesn't apply at all and applies horrendously accurately. I'm not manly, and I would take it as an insult if anyone said I was. I am in fact rather camp... But the funny thing is that whilst the spirit of the article does not apply to me (the over-masculine, femininity hating bit) the actual words of the article do (I don't enjoy viewing vaginas. It wouldn't put me off a game, but it would dampen the enjoyment momentairily)

I agree with the article, though. All bar one of the gamers I know personally are terrified of their masculinity being undermined - the fear is heightened by my presence, it seems. The only one that doesn't fit the bill is my boyfriend. This article will be fantastic material for his dissertation on the gender and the psychology of gender, as well... Thank you for writing it, Michael, and thank you for publicising it, Escapist!

Jiraiya72:

According to the ESA, 40% of people playing games are women. There are almost twice as many women over the age of eighteen who play games than there are boys under the age of seventeen.

I know this is not all women gamers, obviously, but these statistics aren't accurate because they count "playing farmville on facebook all day" as gaming. These are not gamers and should not be grouped together with "actual" gamers.

Yeah this is what I was gonna say.
Most of those women have probably just bought a Wii for their kids, and have to join in now and then.

Those insights are so 19th century ...

Seriously, I thought modern psychology was way over Freud. At least they were the last time I checked into one of those seminars. Repeating those grand recits over and over again's just the way to make those stereotypes live forever.

I'd love to see an psychological analysis based on the woman to pig relationship in Beyond Good & Evil. That would be an interesting reading.

I would have mentioned more about MGS4, like maybe how all the bosses are women?

Most of those women have probably just bought a Wii for their kids, and have to join in now and then.

... so, wait. Someone mentions that women play games, and your immediate reaction is to claim that it's all a lie and a cheat and women don't really play games.

Sir, I must ask. Are you of the troll nature?

OH, now I know how this "best of" thing works.

It's just whatever gets this site the most hits.

Seriously, this article deserves to be in the archives of shame.

FallenJellyDoughnut:
I never, ever felt the need to beat a woman to death in a videogame, but maybe I'm just strange like that.

Seriously though, I have nothing against vaginas, they're cool beans in my book and I never got the impression of the vagina looking like a castration wound.

seems very Freud to me... and as we all know Freuds theories are interesting but far from the truth.

Ok, seriously, I rarely post here, but I cannot even begin to resist the urge.

First off the author is a male, presenting the concept that our gaming culture is representative of fears of women, manifest by damsels in distress as it relates to dominion and over sized machismo be it guns, utilities, attitudes, ect

I think we can at least agree, that games do typify male roles in a more dominant way, Although Last I checked video games are a form of recreation, relaxation, escapisim and fantasy. If there is a fear of women present It would have to lie in not fear of women, but more accurately a fear of a world without masculinity.

Perhaps that is the appeal, after turning on the tv to see countless emotional dramas, reality tv that banks on pointless emotional drama, then commercials come on featuring a movie marketed to young males, featuring the lead role to an effeminite mouseketeer like say Shia Labouf followed by Axe fragrances that insist that if you just feminize yourself, women will like you more. Then get sick of seeing it and change the channel to see pervasive anime, which Otaku culture frequently presents men as nothing more than childish boys who have nothing resembling a spine and are typically subserviant to females desparately begging for their affection. I literally could go on for a lifetime.

Did the author or the cited speaker ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, men get tired of seeing men turned into metrosexuals and effeminate lady boys and seeings as you basically cant do anything in this world that hasnt been hyper feminized over the last 50+ years, Dont belive me? Take a stroll through your local mall, find a Ambercrombie and fitch, Areopostle, Rue 21, Hot topic, Hell basically any retailer gearing for the 15-25 demographic and note that the sections selling mens clothes basically look identical in cuts, designs, colors as the sections selling female garments

Can you really blame a guy to have to turn to video games for anything even remotely construed as representing masculine qualities?

Seriously, its hillarious that the author out and out disclaims him self at the begining by projecting his own subconscious insecurities. All I can say to all of this is just because your too afraid to be a man, dont assume there is something wrong with a culture that allows and celebrates what has worked for the species for 200,000+ years, 3500 years, or since last thursday dependent upon which book you choose to read.

WrongSprite:

Jiraiya72:

According to the ESA, 40% of people playing games are women. There are almost twice as many women over the age of eighteen who play games than there are boys under the age of seventeen.

I know this is not all women gamers, obviously, but these statistics aren't accurate because they count "playing farmville on facebook all day" as gaming. These are not gamers and should not be grouped together with "actual" gamers.

Yeah this is what I was gonna say.
Most of those women have probably just bought a Wii for their kids, and have to join in now and then.

*ahem* No.

(Although I tend to find the same kind of reaction in places like Games Workshop too. They always assume first that I'm there to buy something for someone else, i.e., a guy. Indie game shops are usually a bit better. And I'll have that tyranid to go, please....)

Amazon warrior:

WrongSprite:

Jiraiya72:

According to the ESA, 40% of people playing games are women. There are almost twice as many women over the age of eighteen who play games than there are boys under the age of seventeen.

I know this is not all women gamers, obviously, but these statistics aren't accurate because they count "playing farmville on facebook all day" as gaming. These are not gamers and should not be grouped together with "actual" gamers.

Yeah this is what I was gonna say.
Most of those women have probably just bought a Wii for their kids, and have to join in now and then.

*ahem* No.

(Although I tend to find the same kind of reaction in places like Games Workshop too. They always assume first that I'm there to buy something for someone else, i.e., a guy. Indie game shops are usually a bit better. And I'll have that tyranid to go, please....)

I said most...please don't assume you are the entire gaming population of adult women.

I actually really enjoyed that article. I wish he cited the statistical sources like a good journalist, but still. It was fascinating.

I don't agree with Freud on everything, obviously. I'm not stupid. But I think he had a lot of ideas that were correct; that insecurities, including sexual ones, inevitably show up in things that we create. I've seen it in my own artwork enough to know that it is a true sentiment. When I'm not even thinking about the implications, I'll draw portraits of women looking away, holding themselves, naked, curled up, hiding their face. It's really an expression of myself, because I am a woman, and a deep sense of vulnerability, fear, and shyness - all of which are traits I am intimately entangled with.

So I don't think it's unreasonable that some female-centric insecurities would niggle their way into video games, which come from developers who are primarily men... Whether that's a fear of commitment, fear of losing masculinity because of a relationship, or fear of rejection, you can see that working into power fantasies where those bad things will never ever happen and you will always be strong and powerful, like in Gears. This speaks more of the developers than the actual gamers, I would suspect.

That's not even a bad thing! That's what fantasies are for - so we can escape real world issues. That's why I draw and why I write stories, and why some people play games. Yes, my works are all separate and stand-alone pieces, but you can also see my internal issues and conflicts influencing them every time. It's unavoidable.

And while I understand how things like "vagina dentata" can seem bizarre and weird (because who the hell would honestly think that a vagina could castrate you?), I feel like there IS a kernel of strange truth to it and similar ideas. Not literally, like I said, but metaphorically. The subconscious works in fucked up ways, taking in your primal fears and desires and twisting them into underlying feelings that you can't exactly articulate without sounding like an insecure ass. God knows how many research papers I've done on it. Psychology is neat. :P

Anyway. I guess I just wanted people to stop taking this article like some kind of personal attack that YOU ARE JUVENILE AND ALSO DUMB. We've all got some issues we need to either avoid or indulge, and that isn't a bad thing. That's just human, whether the issue is a fear of rejection or the wish to be powerful.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this, so I'll go ahead and say thanks for the cool read. I hope we get more like it in the future.

WrongSprite:

Amazon warrior:

WrongSprite:

Jiraiya72:

According to the ESA, 40% of people playing games are women. There are almost twice as many women over the age of eighteen who play games than there are boys under the age of seventeen.

I know this is not all women gamers, obviously, but these statistics aren't accurate because they count "playing farmville on facebook all day" as gaming. These are not gamers and should not be grouped together with "actual" gamers.

Yeah this is what I was gonna say.
Most of those women have probably just bought a Wii for their kids, and have to join in now and then.

*ahem* No.

(Although I tend to find the same kind of reaction in places like Games Workshop too. They always assume first that I'm there to buy something for someone else, i.e., a guy. Indie game shops are usually a bit better. And I'll have that tyranid to go, please....)

I said most...please don't assume you are the entire gaming population of adult women.

Please don't assume that I was only referring to myself.

Seriously, the assumption that *most* female gamers are only playing Farmville or because they're humouring children is as insulting as assuming that *most* male gamers are only playing games to gratify puerile adolescent power fantasies.

I wonder how they decided what the "best" articles were from the first six months of the year?

Most agenda-driven?

Most controversial?

Most commented?

Most politically correct?

I don't know, but I re-read this just to make sure it was as absurd as I remember it being. Yep, it was.

Perhaps that is the appeal, after turning on the tv to see countless emotional dramas, reality tv that banks on pointless emotional drama, then commercials come on featuring a movie marketed to young males, featuring the lead role to an effeminite mouseketeer like say Shia Labouf

Yeah, 'cause it's not like commercials on television are full of manly men jokes or that television portrays men of all types (including the popular UglyGuyHotWife combo) where women get mocked as being hideous and fat if they're over 25 or a size 2, or that a vast range of movies don't even have two female characters ever speak to each other, or that film posters almost never put an actress' name as a selling point because it's ALL about the men. And nobody ever makes action movies anymore, gosh! And that thing about casting actresses *younger* than the lead actor as their *mothers* because they're clearly over the hill, or the vast number of movies in which no two female characters ever even speak to each other onscreen cause nobody wants to hear women chatter, or movies written and directed by men which are all about gross-out fratboy humor and only feature a few women in roles as The Nag, or male directors going on the record saying that the real reason female directors are never given mainstream awards is that wimmins is too dumb to make proper movies.

followed by Axe fragrances that insist that if you just feminize yourself, women will like you more.

Women neeeever have to put up with a constant stream of advertising telling them they're too fat, too tall, too short, too dark, too pale, too hairy, too wrinkly, too smelly, too busty, not busty enough...

Then get sick of seeing it and change the channel to see pervasive anime, which Otaku culture frequently presents men as nothing more than childish boys who have nothing resembling a spine and are typically subserviant to females desparately begging for their affection.

And anime culture never includes Spiky Haired Male Protagonists who are the Chosen Ones with their little Nurturing Healer female companion. (I'll grant you, harem comedy anime does have a weird fetish for the Hapless Male Lead, but this is usually more because they think their audience is full of losers who can sympathise than because they hold it up as an ideal. It is rather rude to their fanbase though.)

Did the author or the cited speaker ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, men get tired of seeing men turned into metrosexuals and effeminate lady boys and seeings as you basically cant do anything in this world that hasnt been hyper feminized over the last 50+ years

Yeah, because that gender pay gap was neutralised centuries ago, most major countries and businesses are led by women, women in public roles aren't constantly chided for their failure as mothers by daring to have a job, there aren't movements actively trying to keep girls from being educated even in America and trying to promote Man's Natural Rule.

Can you really blame a guy to have to turn to video games for anything even remotely construed as representing masculine qualities?

Gosh, I never thought of it like that. Good thing there aren't any video games featuring effeminate male leads or women or bright colors that appeal to girls, then!

Amazon warrior:

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Amazon warrior:

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Jiraiya72:

According to the ESA, 40% of people playing games are women. There are almost twice as many women over the age of eighteen who play games than there are boys under the age of seventeen.

I know this is not all women gamers, obviously, but these statistics aren't accurate because they count "playing farmville on facebook all day" as gaming. These are not gamers and should not be grouped together with "actual" gamers.

Yeah this is what I was gonna say.
Most of those women have probably just bought a Wii for their kids, and have to join in now and then.

*ahem* No.

(Although I tend to find the same kind of reaction in places like Games Workshop too. They always assume first that I'm there to buy something for someone else, i.e., a guy. Indie game shops are usually a bit better. And I'll have that tyranid to go, please....)

I said most...please don't assume you are the entire gaming population of adult women.

Please don't assume that I was only referring to myself.

Seriously, the assumption that *most* female gamers are only playing Farmville or because they're humouring children is as insulting as assuming that *most* male gamers are only playing games to gratify puerile adolescent power fantasies.

Insulting? I'd say they're both pretty factual, I know I am :)

Oh and the main thing I want to say is that I hear, and see evidence of my point all the time, whereas I've never heard anyone go on about adolescent power fantasies, even though it's rooted in truth.

And while I understand how things like "vagina dentata" can seem bizarre and weird (because who the hell would honestly think that a vagina could castrate you?), I feel like there IS a kernel of strange truth to it and similar ideas.

I think it's true that "holes" are scary without that necessarily having anything to do with women. That's just an unfortunate coincidence. A dark hole could have anything in it (including a pecker-eating spider! 10 points if you get the reference)

Which is scarier to find when you walk into a room, a sword hovering there whose menace is obvious, or a dark hole whose menace is completely unknown?

The hostility found in these comments pretty much proves just how insecure some of these male gamers actually are. The 40% is an accurate number, and no amount of chest thumping is going to explain that away.

Most women don't play real games. They play the casual kind. The flash kind.

Consider the nominees for the 2009 Game of the Year at Spike's Video Game Awards: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Left 4 Dead 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, and Batman: Arkham Asylum. Each game is combat-oriented, features male protagonists, and presents a world full of aggressive antagonists in which the player must become a savior. To whom are these experiences most likely to appeal?

I don't even have cable and I know Spike is the "guys" channel, cheesy old action movies and stuff. DUH of course they choose a bunch of cheesy action games. That doesn't reflect on the industry or fans as a whole, not more than it would if the W channel had an awards ceremony for videogames.

Speaking of which, why doesn't the women's channel - or more directly, feminists - have a videogame award show? Then they could present an alternative viewpoint instead of just trying to piss in everyone else's corn flakes, attacking male choices by insinuating that we're gay or afraid of cooties. All in the name of tolerance and understanding, am I right?

I can't say about the stuff in other games, but Johnny hesitating to kiss Meryl in MGS4 is a strawman argument ... he's the very opposite of some bad-ass fighter who shows an uncharacteristic moment of fear when confronted with a woman. He's a pants crapping loser who's been beaten up by both Snake and Meryl over the course of the story for comic relief. When Johnny proposes to Meryl she rejects him, so that SHE can be the one to propose. Johnny being hesitant to kiss is just another of the long line of jabs at Johnny's expense, and to be honest it's probably safer to try and make out with a mountain lion than Meryl if she doesn't feel like it at the moment... it's easily the bravest thing he's done in his life.

Fear of women in videogames? that goes to show that your incredibly gay wierd

Speaking of which, why doesn't the women's channel - or more directly, feminists - have a videogame award show? Then they could present an alternative viewpoint instead of just trying to piss in everyone else's corn flakes, attacking male choices by insinuating that we're gay or afraid of cooties. All in the name of tolerance and understanding, am I right?

Feminists don't have tv channels. They have blogs. :)

I do know of a largish feminist videogame blog. Sometimes they're reasonable and have very meaningful things to say. Sometimes they're... kinda out there. And yes, they complain about games a lot more than they pick out games they actually like.

Hanako you are absolutely correct, Yes women have their own disparity and deal with this just as much if not more. But there is a couple of caveats here.

First off, as long as there has been advertising, there has been self image manipulation for the sake of advertising towards women. Even today most market researchers still indicate that about 80% of most marketing is geared toward women, be that postively or negatively. However, the concept of trying to market to men via inferiority complex is more of a recent development within say the last 20 years or so. Quite frankly marketing via inferiority complex should not exist across the board.

Secondly, even with marketing and media corrupting the feminine self image, which again, I wholly agree is wrong, there not trying to turn women into men, now are they?

The point of my comment was not to say games should not show such fear of women, But more accurately to respect that the market of gamers is still as of this date in heavier favor of men vs women (which is finally starting to balance out) and what the dilluded author perceives to be fear of women, is just a manifestation of having an outlet to let men do manly things in the face of a world that around every corner increasingly wants them to be women with peni living in a world where fantasy is dominated by the concept of sex without penetration.

I wish to say I respect women and fully appreciate that yes they have hardships that need to be undone, but by pushing men to become women the war against such transgression is going the wrong way and if it continues men AND women both loose.

Beyond that, I am not trying to come off as a troll. I respect that everything I have ever wrote on any forum anywhere has always been misinterpreted. So ive said my peace, and I leave it at that. Bababooey!

hanako:

Speaking of which, why doesn't the women's channel - or more directly, feminists - have a videogame award show? Then they could present an alternative viewpoint instead of just trying to piss in everyone else's corn flakes, attacking male choices by insinuating that we're gay or afraid of cooties. All in the name of tolerance and understanding, am I right?

Feminists don't have tv channels. They have blogs. :)

I do know of a largish feminist videogame blog. Sometimes they're reasonable and have very meaningful things to say. Sometimes they're... kinda out there. And yes, they complain about games a lot more than they pick out games they actually like.

Psh, I know right? You'd almost think that a majority of mainstream games has issues with gender...

In all seriousness though, this was an interesting article. I'm impressed by how far it dared to go even if the author did feel the need to soften the statement with that joke on the end.

The reactions don't at all surprise me though.

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