E3 2010: Deus Ex: Human Revolution

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Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Jean-Francois Dugas talks to us about Deus Ex: Human Revolution a prequel to the ongoing series.

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"Deus ex was considered one of the best games of all time, and it's an opportunity to work in *words essentially meaning a sequel*"

To me that smells of "The previous Deus Ex games were good, so we'll make another in the series to reap on the infamy of previous installments of the series"

I'm a little too cynical sometimes.

The game probably will be good, but I'm interested how'll they'll explain how you have better tech then you had previously.

Big question is what kinda DRM they're gonna throw on the PC copy...

I'm starting to get really excited for this game. This guy seems to care about pleasing the fans but also making his own game, which is the best route in the end. No one wants a game that spits on the face of the fans and I don't think anyone wants a cookie cutter remake of the first. Making the same game twice for sales leads to series stagnation and is something devlopers should try to avoid.

My two major concerns are stealth and difficulty. I hope that I never get forced down an action route with my stealth character, so I really want the branching out levels with multiple approaches. One thing brought up in Spoony's interview is that with multiple approaches difficulty may become an issue. Difficulty in stealth games comes from the AI and the environment, difficulty in action games is the power of weapons and the ferocity/abilities of the opponents. If stealth is as hard as crawling in vent and following that to the end of the level or turning invisible and running it will be far too easy game and force players looking for a challenge (which would be most of us) down an action route. Basiaclly I hope that the levels are designed so that getting around undetected is challenging and fun which I'm not sure will be the case with invisibility, but we'll have to see.

Its got alot of good things behind this...I actually got the steam offer recently and started to play through first one again.

This is going to be great if they do everyrthing they say they will do...be nice to see a return to what the first was

I'm going to assume this will make invisible war look like a DaVinci.

And this interview isn't making me think any different.

There was leaked Gameplay of the 20min InGame presentation btw.

First part in somewhat good-ish quality: http://www.leakerz.com/wp/2010/06/21/e3-deus-ex-human-revolution-gameplay-video/

First and 2nd part in bad YouTube-ish quality with download links: http://deusex-humanrevolution.blogspot.com/2010/06/e3-2010-leaked-gameplay.html

Very coolVery coolVery coolVery coolVery coolVery cool

Hopefully the game will be good, but the fact the guy states they are wanting to keep things familiar for fans of the original games while using the dreaded term "reboot" in the same breath leaves me somewhat conflicted. Nothing wrong with bringing new people into the game, but if they want to feel like it's actually taking place in the same universe as the other two games we need (at the very least) Versalife, UNATCO and at least one deep conversation with an AI construct on the nature of society...

It's indeed with one poster above me that they are scaring this shit out of me when they mention the succes of a game and make a prequel, trying to reap cash from those long-time fans.

Either way, they have reassured me plenty of times via walls of texts and other videos that show everything is balance, like combat and stealth. This time, it really matters than remain hidden for 5 seconds and then go guns blazing. Well, so far I know, the technology issues are kept to a minimum but you can't blame them for expanding since they have the resources and stuff right?

Either way, I am getting it on the 360, no idiotic DRM for me.

Genuinely looking forward to this game!

dududf:
"Deus ex was considered one of the best games of all time, and it's an opportunity to work in *words essentially meaning a sequel*"

To me that smells of "The previous Deus Ex games were good, so we'll make another in the series to reap on the infamy of previous installments of the series"

I'm a little too cynical sometimes.

The game probably will be good, but I'm interested how'll they'll explain how you have better tech then you had previously.

The PC Gamer review was incredibly glowing, and the guy who wrote has played Deus Ex every few months since it first came out - I don't think there's much to worry about.

I don't see how the tech is supposed to be better.

Dom Kebbell:
I'm going to assume this will make invisible war look like a DaVinci.

And this interview isn't making me think any different.

Both of you two need to go to http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/welcome-to-deus-ex-week-heres-whats-coming/ and read all of the articles.

Woodsey:

dududf:
"Deus ex was considered one of the best games of all time, and it's an opportunity to work in *words essentially meaning a sequel*"

To me that smells of "The previous Deus Ex games were good, so we'll make another in the series to reap on the infamy of previous installments of the series"

I'm a little too cynical sometimes.

The game probably will be good, but I'm interested how'll they'll explain how you have better tech then you had previously.

The PC Gamer review was incredibly glowing, and the guy who wrote has played Deus Ex every few months since it first came out - I don't think there's much to worry about.

I don't see how the tech is supposed to be better.

Dom Kebbell:
I'm going to assume this will make invisible war look like a DaVinci.

And this interview isn't making me think any different.

Both of you two need to go to http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/welcome-to-deus-ex-week-heres-whats-coming/ and read all of the articles.

Yes, because PC Gamer DOESN'T rely on the advertising of the industry to stay in the black :)

chiatt:

Woodsey:

dududf:
"Deus ex was considered one of the best games of all time, and it's an opportunity to work in *words essentially meaning a sequel*"

To me that smells of "The previous Deus Ex games were good, so we'll make another in the series to reap on the infamy of previous installments of the series"

I'm a little too cynical sometimes.

The game probably will be good, but I'm interested how'll they'll explain how you have better tech then you had previously.

The PC Gamer review was incredibly glowing, and the guy who wrote has played Deus Ex every few months since it first came out - I don't think there's much to worry about.

I don't see how the tech is supposed to be better.

Dom Kebbell:
I'm going to assume this will make invisible war look like a DaVinci.

And this interview isn't making me think any different.

Both of you two need to go to http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/welcome-to-deus-ex-week-heres-whats-coming/ and read all of the articles.

Yes, because PC Gamer DOESN'T rely on the advertising of the industry to stay in the black :)

Uhh, alright then - all gaming sites are corrupt and we shouldn't trust their opinion on anything.

Try reading the things, it's not picture-perfect; he expresses a few doubts about things that he can't really judge until he's played it.

Fucking hell.

Woodsey:

dududf:
"Deus ex was considered one of the best games of all time, and it's an opportunity to work in *words essentially meaning a sequel*"

To me that smells of "The previous Deus Ex games were good, so we'll make another in the series to reap on the infamy of previous installments of the series"

I'm a little too cynical sometimes.

The game probably will be good, but I'm interested how'll they'll explain how you have better tech then you had previously.

The PC Gamer review was incredibly glowing, and the guy who wrote has played Deus Ex every few months since it first came out - I don't think there's much to worry about.

I don't see how the tech is supposed to be better.

Dom Kebbell:
I'm going to assume this will make invisible war look like a DaVinci.

And this interview isn't making me think any different.

Both of you two need to go to http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/welcome-to-deus-ex-week-heres-whats-coming/ and read all of the articles.

H'mmmm. Thanks for posting the link - I'm reading with interest and shall reserve judgement until I've waded through it all. The memories of DX:IW may take quite some shifting......

Amazon warrior:

Woodsey:

dududf:
"Deus ex was considered one of the best games of all time, and it's an opportunity to work in *words essentially meaning a sequel*"

To me that smells of "The previous Deus Ex games were good, so we'll make another in the series to reap on the infamy of previous installments of the series"

I'm a little too cynical sometimes.

The game probably will be good, but I'm interested how'll they'll explain how you have better tech then you had previously.

The PC Gamer review was incredibly glowing, and the guy who wrote has played Deus Ex every few months since it first came out - I don't think there's much to worry about.

I don't see how the tech is supposed to be better.

Dom Kebbell:
I'm going to assume this will make invisible war look like a DaVinci.

And this interview isn't making me think any different.

Both of you two need to go to http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/10/welcome-to-deus-ex-week-heres-whats-coming/ and read all of the articles.

H'mmmm. Thanks for posting the link - I'm reading with interest and shall reserve judgement until I've waded through it all. The memories of DX:IW may take quite some shifting......

There is apart in it - somewhere - where they openly talk about why IW didn't work.

Quit hating, there are parts of both games that were good. Good enough for me to play through the first game 5 times, and the second one a couple more. I have only one thing to say to a new game in this series - HELL YEAH!

The more I hear about this game the more I dislike it. As mentioned above "reboot" and "putting on blinders" says no good. Also the game seems to be very action centric. So far stealth is "mentioned" in text but nothing shows. Sounds to me more like an alibi. Also seeing the game they make I question what they looked at when the checked out Deus-Ex. They totally miss the important part of this game. Currently there is only one game/mod out there which is a true continuation in the Deus-Ex tradition and this is TNM. As it looks like they are orthogonally away from Deus-Ex/TNM. No chance so far to be good. Question is only if DX3 is going to be a bit better or worse than DX:IW. Whatever the case it looks like soiling the franchise again.

Dectilon:
Very coolVery coolVery coolVery coolVery coolVery cool

Damn you! You found my tick! (It bothered me when I just watched myself too)

Eh. I'll give it a chance to surprise me.

Still... Deus Ex. Them be some big shoes to fill.

Greg Tito:

Dectilon:
Very coolVery coolVery coolVery coolVery coolVery cool

Damn you! You found my tick! (It bothered me when I just watched myself too)

No worries. Apart from constant repetition of 'Very Cool' (it kinda bothered me as well) phrase, you did fine. You have a good voice for an interviewer.

New Deus Ex and LA Noire (ok, maybe Fallout: NV as well) are probably the only games I'm really looking forward to right now. Never got into first Deus Ex, but the setting seems interesting, and since it's a prequel I think I won't lose much except some winks for the first DE fans.

Wow, its true, every game revamp or revival is Re-something
Revolution, Revelation, etc

Woodsey:
There is a part in it - somewhere - where they openly talk about why IW didn't work.

Sure, but I would rather keep my expectation at DE:IW levels until I have played it.

IW was a pale shadow of DE and this lot are not Warren Specters team.

Deus Ex is one of my favorite games of all time, I have played it enough times that i don't remember the number any more, it that making anything measuring up to it in my mind hard? of course. Will i judge it harshly if it doesn't manage to measure up? depends on how it falls down honestly.

Dom Kebbell:

Woodsey:
There is a part in it - somewhere - where they openly talk about why IW didn't work.

Sure, but I would rather keep my expectation at DE:IW levels until I have played it.

IW was a pale shadow of DE and this lot are not Warren Specters team.

Deus Ex is one of my favorite games of all time, I have played it enough times that i don't remember the number any more, it that making anything measuring up to it in my mind hard? of course. Will i judge it harshly if it doesn't manage to measure up? depends on how it falls down honestly.

This is pretty much where I stand too. In fact, all this talk of DX has made me want to take J.C. for another spin 'round the block. Except I don't have the disc here - damn! Maybe I'll get it off Steam instead. I rate the original as one of my top games ever, along with Thief: The Metal Age and Thief: The Dark Project. Sneaking is fuuuuuuun! >;D

Oh, Deus Ex. As a mere 10 year-old you hooked me, and drew me into your dark, gritty world of complex choices and ambiguous morality, your inter-weaving gameplay paths and many available play styles. The Primitive blocky levels still manage to hold a gloomy, dystopian kind of charm for me despite the old graphics, and that atmospheric soundtrack still stands out in my mind as one of the most effective mood-setters I've heard in a game.

I don't expect this new one to take me right back into that experience. But if these developers know their stuff, then they'll at least be able to create something great of their own using it. I just hope all goes as planned.

Another Deus Ex? Awesome! I'm so gutted I missed the Steam sale though... :(

Oh my! Greg Tito, I didn't know you looked so much like a nice young man. If they only knew.

The French accent is so awesome, just listen to it, the way he says the word 'development' makes it sound like something you do in a red velvet couch.

OT: Nothing he said really skewed me either way regarding the game, which I'm cautiously optimistic about. I usually don't pay much attention to the ramblings of the poor employees who have to retell the same things to scores of journalists over the fair days. But he said there would be punching of walls, and there'd better be plenty of punching of walls. Punching of walls and generally acting like a robot is the one thing I thought the original Deus Ex needed more of.

MarsProbe:
Nothing wrong with bringing new people into the game, but if they want to feel like it's actually taking place in the same universe as the other two games we need (at the very least) Versalife, UNATCO and at least one deep conversation with an AI construct on the nature of society...

I don't remember when those were created in the game's storyline (wait, I forgot the date of the Statue of Liberty attack? What kind of gamer am I?) and I do hope Versalife shows up more, it was barely a bit player in the original one, but deep conversations with strange characters about philosophical topics is the Deus Ex thing. If they don't have this they may have a brilliant cyberpunk game that I'll actually end up playing anyway, but it's not Deus Ex.

Can I ask a controversial question? What was wrong with Invisible War? I played the first few hours of it and thought it was great...

From that leaked footage, its gonna be closer to deus ex 1 rather than number two...but the music is missing...or is it just crappy? (sigh, the music was one of the best parts of number one...)

Woooo, Deus Ex FTW

I am really looking forward to this gaem. So much so, I have re-installed the previous Deus Ex games and playing them again.

almostnot:
Can I ask a controversial question? What was wrong with Invisible War? I played the first few hours of it and thought it was great...

It is what Batman and Robin is to the Dark Knight

Three major points of concern for me: firstly, Square Enix is beginning to get its grubby hands on the project, which is not a good thing at all. Secondly, he used the word 'reboot' in there somewhere, which signals to me that they are going to mine Deus Ex 1's nostiliga for all its worth. Thirdly, no sign of gameplay videos yet, which stinks of 'we made a mindless shooter with RPG elements and you will buy it for we will not inform you beforehand'.

That said, I am an embittered DE 1 fan, and its wholly possible that DE 3 will be great - I just think we shouldn't get out hopes up yet. That said, he did say alot of the right things, but again, so did the DE2 things before release, and whilst DE2 wasn't a failure pre-say, it wasn't a worthy sequel.

Doug:
Thirdly, no sign of gameplay videos yet, which stinks of 'we made a mindless shooter with RPG elements and you will buy it for we will not inform you beforehand'.

The game was live demo'ed at E3 for pretty much every major game publication and supposedly one site did have a full 20 minute video of the demo up (that, from what I hear, is no longer up). It's unfortunate they haven't decided to make gameplay videos available to the public yet, but they are actually showing real gameplay to some people.

Dom Kebbell:

almostnot:
Can I ask a controversial question? What was wrong with Invisible War? I played the first few hours of it and thought it was great...

It is what Batman and Robin is to the Dark Knight

Not quite that bad, but its not a worthy sequel regardless; if they'd released it as a seperate game series all together without its older brother making it look bad, it might have been seen as a good game in its own right.

StriderShinryu:

Doug:
Thirdly, no sign of gameplay videos yet, which stinks of 'we made a mindless shooter with RPG elements and you will buy it for we will not inform you beforehand'.

The game was live demo'ed at E3 for pretty much every major game publication and supposedly one site did have a full 20 minute video of the demo up (that, from what I hear, is no longer up). It's unfortunate they haven't decided to make gameplay videos available to the public yet, but they are actually showing real gameplay to some people.

Thats my problem - they aren't letting it be seen by the public; and the gaming press seem somewhat useless these days. I want to see the gameplay for myself to draw my own conclusions.

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