Rebecca Mayes Muses: Love Song for Yahtzee

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Damn...

i think they should agree to disagree and make up they are opposites and it may sound weird but they could be good for eachother

Made my day. But, all your songs have that indie rock feel. This one could've used at least another spoonful of hope and a cup of happy, tone-wise.

i lul at all the hate. but an artist must have already gotten used to that on their way to become one... so yeah.

good song, i liked it and lul'd and... yeah... just like the mindless masses, hope to see a response from zp. xD

who knows, maybe you would go and have some coffee and discover he ain't all that... or viceversa? gasp, no, NEVER!

bobby1361:

NickIsCool:
awesome song as always

i loved all the references to ZP

whats with the screwdriver at the end though?

i guess love is a crazy thing, isnt it :D

Said she'd rather stab herself in the eye than go out with his misoginist mind.

He's made up of more than his mind. He's not a brain in a jar. That was amazing, and one of the best videos on here, IMNSHO (In my not so humble opinion).

I'm not sure how I feel about this. It's original and, well, has potential. The verses is probably what I didn't like the most - the chorus was much better.

But I doubt Rebecca will read ALL of this.. but who knows +))

Catalyst6:

MaltesePigeon:

Dan Weinstein:

Monkeyman8:
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As children, we all went to school and drew horrible pictures. Pictures of Santa Clause where he and the reindeer are the same height. Pictures of our families where everyone was literally smiling from ear to ear, though they did not have ears. And an American favorite, the Thanksgiving's Day hand turkey.

Now when we brought these things home to our parents they would smile and say what wonderful works of art they were. Because they had to.

And that's where they just put Yahtzee. He's going to have to rip on it some because that's what he does. But if his response doesn't come out more positive then negative then it's just bad for the site.

That said, I believe Yahtzee owns a bar, and I doubt they will be playing this song there.

Check his twitterfeed. He responded to it.

And so it begins. He denigrates himself on twitter, "I hate everyone." She replies that he is sexist/homophobic. Then asks, "do you write songs?"

He will twit(no not tweet, twit), "Have you ever written a book or programmed a game?" So much drama, this is better than Days of Our Lives or General Hospital (I think those soap operas still exist). Welcome to the escapist version of TGWG: crossovers.

MaltesePigeon:

That said, I believe Yahtzee owns a bar, and I doubt they will be playing this song there.

right, another stop on my post-graduation trip to AUS

This is a fun little song!

Wonder how Yahtzee will feel when he hears it...

Giandroid:
I've been a fan of Rebecca Mayes since she first came on the Escapist. Her songs are smart, multi-layered, cultured, and, by far my favorite aspect, deeply observant about games as an emerging art form and what they [the games] imply about our society.

So it goes without saying I love this song! It's one of her best ones (I liked "take me back to the 80s" best myself), and tackles a subject that seems impossible to review: Yahtzee! (Where did he get that nickname anyway?)

That being said, I am NOT pleased with the amount of flak she's getting for this song (and I know she's getting a lot of love too!). As an unpleasable cynical curmudgeon myself, I love me some Yahtzee as well. He's extremely funny, and he's fighting for the good guys! But just like Ms. Mayes, I find myself grinding my teeth every time he casts his ire at the finer sex. I know he does it ironically, as his EP post about Wet clearly states, but it's still undermining women and makes sexism seem socially acceptable. So yes, her disappointment for his sexism, even though it's false, is valid.

To me it seems like she's sure getting a lot of flak for having the audacity to be woman (She shouldn't be on the Escapist! RAWR RAWR), and it's not fair. In the game industry, women are hugely outnumbered, and they're easy targets. I for one am proud that there exists a female game critic as intelligent, observant, funny, and talented as Ms. Mayes. It helps that she has dreamy eyes, but that's beside the point.

And the idea that she's doing it for attention? If you have been watching her videos (chances are, you, the haters, have not), you'd know she's been preparing for this for months. Also, if you read her blog (You don't do that either, haters) she's getting plenty of attention in her home country in the UK, in newspapers and TV and such, and she doesn't even know what to do with it.

Anyway, great job Rebecca, I can't wait to see the response. It was ten times better than I thought would be, and I thought it was going to be great! As a cynical, negative, pessimistic, feminist MALE, I salute you!

I'm a long term Yahzee fan. I'm also a woman, and a feminist.

If Rebecca wants to call anyone misogynist it should be the industry. Some of the points in Rebecca's song are spot on, but I don't think Yahzee is in any way, shape or form a misogynist. He ragged on Ruby from Wet, because she is a bloody atrocious character, and a completely fair target. He's taken the piss out of plenty of boneheaded male characters too.

Fact is, the number of decent female protagonists in games are few and far between and it's incredibly frustrating. I want to play cool women but unless the game is an RPG where I can create my own character it's very rare that I get the opportunity. Women in games are portrayed 90% of the time as either a convenient kidnap or murder victim (God of War, Alan Wake, every Mario game ever), or big-titted, oversexualised bitchy bimbos (Wet, Bayonetta) the rest of the time. The only franchise where there's a female playable character that's in any way cool is Tomb Raider- and I don't play those because Lara handles like a shopping trolley. I think the last non-RPG game I actually played with a lead female character that didn't make me want to scoop my eyes out was Silent Hill 3.

There are a couple of games with intriguing female support characters like Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and Silent Hill 2 but they're rare as hen's teeth. There are plenty of us girl gamers out here who are fed up of playing jar-head space marines and psychos like Kratos. We'd like representation that amounts to more than a witch in a catsuit made of hair. For example, I love Red Dead Redemption, but I would have loved it ever more if I could have played as a Calamity Jane style female gunslinger.

The homophobia thing is mind-boggling as well. Has Rebecca never played any online games? Been called a fa**ot and then had her corpse tea-bagged? It's already "socially acceptable" to be homophobic in the gaming community. Ever seen a gay or bisexual male lead character in a mainstream game?

I think Rebecca has more worthy targets for her ire than Yahzee. That said, the amount of crap she's getting from mouth-breathing Zero Punctuation fans is proving her point.

Xavier78:

@YahtzeeCroshaw you might not be misogynist but in my eyes you are making sexism/homophobia socially acceptable.

Twitter is getting interesting. I'm really REALLY not sure if this is a "joke" or not now. At first I thought it was, but now... well, now it's just creepy after reading their Twitters.

Comments made that one towards Yahtzee are so idiotic. Do people really think that jokes make actual prejudice socially acceptable? Maybe the rest of the world is just so uptight and sensitive.

Sooo, did Yahtzee insult one of her favourite games or something?
And if I took it correctly, were you saying that he's a sexist? Because that's just lpain wrong.
Now onto the chorus, Is It Ok? That's the bit I've always hated about the songs, the fact that there's a chorus in there that is the SAME words, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over . Annyoing, wasn't it?

That all aside though, and I liked the song.
*clap clap clap*

Well done Ms. Mayes, a very catchy song, and well written. Deserving of a second listen-through as well. Loved it.

I honestly never got into Rebecca's music. She's talented at making music, but when it comes to lyrics she falls flat.

aw, was a lovely song Rebecca, it does a nice job of summing up most gamers love hate relationship with yahtzee.
think ill always buy into him as opinionated as he is.

is alot like how we all want to gain his approval, but well never get it because hes so gosh darn shrewd, but anyways im sure he will tell you so that he really appreciates it.

I think we all dont mind saying we love yahtzee, even when he pisses us off sometimes,

but hey, hes unique :)

Loved it! Now I can't wait for the Zero Punctuation that goes with this :)

Nice song!
Point of content seems to be simple - stirring up the community and views-counter by referencing to escapist's main superstar Yahtzee. Success here. If it is not a pre-planned scheme then I wouldn't expect anything more than 2 seconds reference in Yahtzee's next review. But it got gamers posting on forums like madmen, even I got to finally poat something (Lords of Terra have mercy upon me...)

Little sidenote thou - whenever a girl tried to hit on me by mimicking my own cynical ways or being a smartass it has always been a huge turn-off.

Proud to be a white, straight male! Whisky induced or not.

Rebecca, I love you for this.

This was truly spectacular. Good work, probably your best song so far

Riiiiight, I'm going to leave now, slowly, peace bro...! I mean, woman!

I couldn't watch this till the end and I couldn't particularly pay much attention to what was being said in the part that I did watch, Reason: lame...

And the worst thing about this, I got "awarded" a badge to show that I did actually click on this xD

Pandageddon:

Giandroid:
I've been a fan of Rebecca Mayes since she first came on the Escapist. Her songs are smart, multi-layered, cultured, and, by far my favorite aspect, deeply observant about games as an emerging art form and what they [the games] imply about our society.

So it goes without saying I love this song! It's one of her best ones (I liked "take me back to the 80s" best myself), and tackles a subject that seems impossible to review: Yahtzee! (Where did he get that nickname anyway?)

That being said, I am NOT pleased with the amount of flak she's getting for this song (and I know she's getting a lot of love too!). As an unpleasable cynical curmudgeon myself, I love me some Yahtzee as well. He's extremely funny, and he's fighting for the good guys! But just like Ms. Mayes, I find myself grinding my teeth every time he casts his ire at the finer sex. I know he does it ironically, as his EP post about Wet clearly states, but it's still undermining women and makes sexism seem socially acceptable. So yes, her disappointment for his sexism, even though it's false, is valid.

To me it seems like she's sure getting a lot of flak for having the audacity to be woman (She shouldn't be on the Escapist! RAWR RAWR), and it's not fair. In the game industry, women are hugely outnumbered, and they're easy targets. I for one am proud that there exists a female game critic as intelligent, observant, funny, and talented as Ms. Mayes. It helps that she has dreamy eyes, but that's beside the point.

And the idea that she's doing it for attention? If you have been watching her videos (chances are, you, the haters, have not), you'd know she's been preparing for this for months. Also, if you read her blog (You don't do that either, haters) she's getting plenty of attention in her home country in the UK, in newspapers and TV and such, and she doesn't even know what to do with it.

Anyway, great job Rebecca, I can't wait to see the response. It was ten times better than I thought would be, and I thought it was going to be great! As a cynical, negative, pessimistic, feminist MALE, I salute you!

I'm a long term Yahzee fan. I'm also a woman, and a feminist.

If Rebecca wants to call anyone misogynist it should be the industry. Some of the points in Rebecca's song are spot on, but I don't think Yahzee is in any way, shape or form a misogynist. He ragged on Ruby from Wet, because she is a bloody atrocious character, and a completely fair target. He's taken the piss out of plenty of boneheaded male characters too.

Fact is, the number of decent female protagonists in games are few and far between and it's incredibly frustrating. I want to play cool women but unless the game is an RPG where I can create my own character it's very rare that I get the opportunity. Women in games are portrayed 90% of the time as either a convenient kidnap or murder victim (God of War, Alan Wake, every Mario game ever), or big-titted, oversexualised bitchy bimbos (Wet, Bayonetta) the rest of the time. The only franchise where there's a female playable character that's in any way cool is Tomb Raider- and I don't play those because Lara handles like a shopping trolley. I think the last non-RPG game I actually played with a lead female character that didn't make me want to scoop my eyes out was Silent Hill 3.

There are a couple of games with intriguing female support characters like Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and Silent Hill 2 but they're rare as hen's teeth. There are plenty of us girl gamers out here who are fed up of playing jar-head space marines and psychos like Kratos. We'd like representation that amounts to more than a witch in a catsuit made of hair. For example, I love Red Dead Redemption, but I would have loved it ever more if I could have played as a Calamity Jane style female gunslinger.

The homophobia thing is mind-boggling as well. Has Rebecca never played any online games? Been called a fa**ot and then had her corpse tea-bagged? It's already "socially acceptable" to be homophobic in the gaming community. Ever seen a gay or bisexual male lead character in a mainstream game?

I think Rebecca has more worthy targets for her ire than Yahzee. That said, the amount of crap she's getting from mouth-breathing Zero Punctuation fans is proving her point.

Bonnie MacFarlane in RDR would have been an awesome "Janesque" female gunslinger. Ranch in danger, with only some guy that got shot to help. No good brother and whatnot. I'm a man, fyi, but the game kept telling me about good/bad guy's wife and kid I needed to save. In the end I liked Bonnie better than the wife. But I reckon' strong women don't fare well in male fantasy.

About the homophobia thing, calling someone a FAGGOT is always wrong. But I think tea-bagging is a product of the limited choices that gamers have.

Ok. Not sure if that was a love or hate song and I think Yahtzee will get the same impression.

People will hate me for this.
I can't believe so many....liked this....this.... I don't know what to call it.
So I will let him speak instead:


0:00-0:40

The only interesting thing would be a Yahtzee response. Though I would personally respond with silence.

Pandageddon:

Giandroid:
I've been a fan of Rebecca Mayes since she first came on the Escapist. Her songs are smart, multi-layered, cultured, and, by far my favorite aspect, deeply observant about games as an emerging art form and what they [the games] imply about our society.

So it goes without saying I love this song! It's one of her best ones (I liked "take me back to the 80s" best myself), and tackles a subject that seems impossible to review: Yahtzee! (Where did he get that nickname anyway?)

That being said, I am NOT pleased with the amount of flak she's getting for this song (and I know she's getting a lot of love too!). As an unpleasable cynical curmudgeon myself, I love me some Yahtzee as well. He's extremely funny, and he's fighting for the good guys! But just like Ms. Mayes, I find myself grinding my teeth every time he casts his ire at the finer sex. I know he does it ironically, as his EP post about Wet clearly states, but it's still undermining women and makes sexism seem socially acceptable. So yes, her disappointment for his sexism, even though it's false, is valid.

To me it seems like she's sure getting a lot of flak for having the audacity to be woman (She shouldn't be on the Escapist! RAWR RAWR), and it's not fair. In the game industry, women are hugely outnumbered, and they're easy targets. I for one am proud that there exists a female game critic as intelligent, observant, funny, and talented as Ms. Mayes. It helps that she has dreamy eyes, but that's beside the point.

And the idea that she's doing it for attention? If you have been watching her videos (chances are, you, the haters, have not), you'd know she's been preparing for this for months. Also, if you read her blog (You don't do that either, haters) she's getting plenty of attention in her home country in the UK, in newspapers and TV and such, and she doesn't even know what to do with it.

Anyway, great job Rebecca, I can't wait to see the response. It was ten times better than I thought would be, and I thought it was going to be great! As a cynical, negative, pessimistic, feminist MALE, I salute you!

I'm a long term Yahzee fan. I'm also a woman, and a feminist.

If Rebecca wants to call anyone misogynist it should be the industry. Some of the points in Rebecca's song are spot on, but I don't think Yahzee is in any way, shape or form a misogynist. He ragged on Ruby from Wet, because she is a bloody atrocious character, and a completely fair target. He's taken the piss out of plenty of boneheaded male characters too.

Fact is, the number of decent female protagonists in games are few and far between and it's incredibly frustrating. I want to play cool women but unless the game is an RPG where I can create my own character it's very rare that I get the opportunity. Women in games are portrayed 90% of the time as either a convenient kidnap or murder victim (God of War, Alan Wake, every Mario game ever), or big-titted, oversexualised bitchy bimbos (Wet, Bayonetta) the rest of the time. The only franchise where there's a female playable character that's in any way cool is Tomb Raider- and I don't play those because Lara handles like a shopping trolley. I think the last non-RPG game I actually played with a lead female character that didn't make me want to scoop my eyes out was Silent Hill 3.

There are a couple of games with intriguing female support characters like Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and Silent Hill 2 but they're rare as hen's teeth. There are plenty of us girl gamers out here who are fed up of playing jar-head space marines and psychos like Kratos. We'd like representation that amounts to more than a witch in a catsuit made of hair. For example, I love Red Dead Redemption, but I would have loved it ever more if I could have played as a Calamity Jane style female gunslinger.

The homophobia thing is mind-boggling as well. Has Rebecca never played any online games? Been called a fa**ot and then had her corpse tea-bagged? It's already "socially acceptable" to be homophobic in the gaming community. Ever seen a gay or bisexual male lead character in a mainstream game?

I think Rebecca has more worthy targets for her ire than Yahzee. That said, the amount of crap she's getting from mouth-breathing Zero Punctuation fans is proving her point.

Quite true, as for the gay/bisexual male lead character, I very much doubt any large publisher/developer would go for that since it would appeal to a smaller fan base -> less sales. For the same reason they will never take any game element to it's fullest and instead stick to the middle of the road like pretty much every single game ever created.

Pandageddon:

Giandroid:
I've been a fan of Rebecca Mayes since she first came on the Escapist. Her songs are smart, multi-layered, cultured, and, by far my favorite aspect, deeply observant about games as an emerging art form and what they [the games] imply about our society.

So it goes without saying I love this song! It's one of her best ones (I liked "take me back to the 80s" best myself), and tackles a subject that seems impossible to review: Yahtzee! (Where did he get that nickname anyway?)

That being said, I am NOT pleased with the amount of flak she's getting for this song (and I know she's getting a lot of love too!). As an unpleasable cynical curmudgeon myself, I love me some Yahtzee as well. He's extremely funny, and he's fighting for the good guys! But just like Ms. Mayes, I find myself grinding my teeth every time he casts his ire at the finer sex. I know he does it ironically, as his EP post about Wet clearly states, but it's still undermining women and makes sexism seem socially acceptable. So yes, her disappointment for his sexism, even though it's false, is valid.

To me it seems like she's sure getting a lot of flak for having the audacity to be woman (She shouldn't be on the Escapist! RAWR RAWR), and it's not fair. In the game industry, women are hugely outnumbered, and they're easy targets. I for one am proud that there exists a female game critic as intelligent, observant, funny, and talented as Ms. Mayes. It helps that she has dreamy eyes, but that's beside the point.

And the idea that she's doing it for attention? If you have been watching her videos (chances are, you, the haters, have not), you'd know she's been preparing for this for months. Also, if you read her blog (You don't do that either, haters) she's getting plenty of attention in her home country in the UK, in newspapers and TV and such, and she doesn't even know what to do with it.

Anyway, great job Rebecca, I can't wait to see the response. It was ten times better than I thought would be, and I thought it was going to be great! As a cynical, negative, pessimistic, feminist MALE, I salute you!

I'm a long term Yahzee fan. I'm also a woman, and a feminist.

If Rebecca wants to call anyone misogynist it should be the industry. Some of the points in Rebecca's song are spot on, but I don't think Yahzee is in any way, shape or form a misogynist. He ragged on Ruby from Wet, because she is a bloody atrocious character, and a completely fair target. He's taken the piss out of plenty of boneheaded male characters too.

Fact is, the number of decent female protagonists in games are few and far between and it's incredibly frustrating. I want to play cool women but unless the game is an RPG where I can create my own character it's very rare that I get the opportunity. Women in games are portrayed 90% of the time as either a convenient kidnap or murder victim (God of War, Alan Wake, every Mario game ever), or big-titted, oversexualised bitchy bimbos (Wet, Bayonetta) the rest of the time. The only franchise where there's a female playable character that's in any way cool is Tomb Raider- and I don't play those because Lara handles like a shopping trolley. I think the last non-RPG game I actually played with a lead female character that didn't make me want to scoop my eyes out was Silent Hill 3.

There are a couple of games with intriguing female support characters like Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and Silent Hill 2 but they're rare as hen's teeth. There are plenty of us girl gamers out here who are fed up of playing jar-head space marines and psychos like Kratos. We'd like representation that amounts to more than a witch in a catsuit made of hair. For example, I love Red Dead Redemption, but I would have loved it ever more if I could have played as a Calamity Jane style female gunslinger.

The homophobia thing is mind-boggling as well. Has Rebecca never played any online games? Been called a fa**ot and then had her corpse tea-bagged? It's already "socially acceptable" to be homophobic in the gaming community. Ever seen a gay or bisexual male lead character in a mainstream game?

I think Rebecca has more worthy targets for her ire than Yahzee. That said, the amount of crap she's getting from mouth-breathing Zero Punctuation fans is proving her point.

It was a love song. Not a feminist statement.

You can't make or break love. It happens. Rebecca fancies Yahtzee, so she will write a love song about Yahtzee.

Yahtzee's opinions are his own. I have noticed he tends to go after female characters more than male characters. But thats to be expected. He is a white, British male. We are practically born misogynist.

But if you want to debate games, i'm more than happy to do so.

You say that its socially acceptable to be homophobic in gaming communities. Umm... no. If I saw someone being homophobic in a game, then I would see that they are dealt with in an appropriate manner depending on how they behaved.

Also, you say there are no gay or bisexual lead characters. Have you completely forgotten Fable and Fable 2? Where the lead character could be both? You also only give 2 examples of games with a strong female companion. Half-Life 2? That had the most empowered woman I've ever seen in that kind of game.

Might I also point out that the protagonist of the Metroid series, Samus Aran, is a woman, and that the protagonist of Deus Ex: Invisible War, Alex D, could be chosen to be a woman. Also, Invisible War was full of female characters that didn't just play eyecandy roles (Billie Adams, Klara Sparks, Leila Nassif, Nicolette DuClare etc).

On a final point, you say that these points apply to mainstream games. Most gaming companies will tell you that the mainstream consists of a large percentage of males. This means that they have to create games that appeal directly to MEN. Why do you think there have been loads of crappy things released for the Wii? They are Nintendo's attempt to corner the female market.

I just liked it because it was awesome =D

That's a love song the way that I am a lion seal.

Has anybody been reading her tweets?

(@YahtzeeCroshaw you might not be misogynist but in my eyes you are making sexism/homophobia socially acceptable).

I'm sorry, but how the fuck is he doing that? His videos are more for laughs than as solid reviews, all of which have even less to do with the social aspects of homosexuality and sexism. He just makes gay jokes for laughs.

So, what, if he really is making homophobia and sexism socially acceptable, then that means people's views are being INFLUENCED by him? A GAME REVIEWER?

I'm probably going to get flames for this, but I honestly don't see how Yahtzee is having any impact whatsoever on this topic. He's just a popular game reviewer, not a political activist.

EDIT: I just realised something like half the people who listened to the song already knew... she's expressing her opinion. I disagree, and a lot of others apparently do too, but you know what? That's her opinion, so whatever. Go Rebecca. Go Yahtzee. Go the world.

Boyninja616:

Pandageddon:

Giandroid:
I've been a fan of Rebecca Mayes since she first came on the Escapist. Her songs are smart, multi-layered, cultured, and, by far my favorite aspect, deeply observant about games as an emerging art form and what they [the games] imply about our society.

So it goes without saying I love this song! It's one of her best ones (I liked "take me back to the 80s" best myself), and tackles a subject that seems impossible to review: Yahtzee! (Where did he get that nickname anyway?)

That being said, I am NOT pleased with the amount of flak she's getting for this song (and I know she's getting a lot of love too!). As an unpleasable cynical curmudgeon myself, I love me some Yahtzee as well. He's extremely funny, and he's fighting for the good guys! But just like Ms. Mayes, I find myself grinding my teeth every time he casts his ire at the finer sex. I know he does it ironically, as his EP post about Wet clearly states, but it's still undermining women and makes sexism seem socially acceptable. So yes, her disappointment for his sexism, even though it's false, is valid.

To me it seems like she's sure getting a lot of flak for having the audacity to be woman (She shouldn't be on the Escapist! RAWR RAWR), and it's not fair. In the game industry, women are hugely outnumbered, and they're easy targets. I for one am proud that there exists a female game critic as intelligent, observant, funny, and talented as Ms. Mayes. It helps that she has dreamy eyes, but that's beside the point.

And the idea that she's doing it for attention? If you have been watching her videos (chances are, you, the haters, have not), you'd know she's been preparing for this for months. Also, if you read her blog (You don't do that either, haters) she's getting plenty of attention in her home country in the UK, in newspapers and TV and such, and she doesn't even know what to do with it.

Anyway, great job Rebecca, I can't wait to see the response. It was ten times better than I thought would be, and I thought it was going to be great! As a cynical, negative, pessimistic, feminist MALE, I salute you!

I'm a long term Yahzee fan. I'm also a woman, and a feminist.

If Rebecca wants to call anyone misogynist it should be the industry. Some of the points in Rebecca's song are spot on, but I don't think Yahzee is in any way, shape or form a misogynist. He ragged on Ruby from Wet, because she is a bloody atrocious character, and a completely fair target. He's taken the piss out of plenty of boneheaded male characters too.

Fact is, the number of decent female protagonists in games are few and far between and it's incredibly frustrating. I want to play cool women but unless the game is an RPG where I can create my own character it's very rare that I get the opportunity. Women in games are portrayed 90% of the time as either a convenient kidnap or murder victim (God of War, Alan Wake, every Mario game ever), or big-titted, oversexualised bitchy bimbos (Wet, Bayonetta) the rest of the time. The only franchise where there's a female playable character that's in any way cool is Tomb Raider- and I don't play those because Lara handles like a shopping trolley. I think the last non-RPG game I actually played with a lead female character that didn't make me want to scoop my eyes out was Silent Hill 3.

There are a couple of games with intriguing female support characters like Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and Silent Hill 2 but they're rare as hen's teeth. There are plenty of us girl gamers out here who are fed up of playing jar-head space marines and psychos like Kratos. We'd like representation that amounts to more than a witch in a catsuit made of hair. For example, I love Red Dead Redemption, but I would have loved it ever more if I could have played as a Calamity Jane style female gunslinger.

The homophobia thing is mind-boggling as well. Has Rebecca never played any online games? Been called a fa**ot and then had her corpse tea-bagged? It's already "socially acceptable" to be homophobic in the gaming community. Ever seen a gay or bisexual male lead character in a mainstream game?

I think Rebecca has more worthy targets for her ire than Yahzee. That said, the amount of crap she's getting from mouth-breathing Zero Punctuation fans is proving her point.

It was a love song. Not a feminist statement.

You can't make or break love. It happens. Rebecca fancies Yahtzee, so she will write a love song about Yahtzee.

Yahtzee's opinions are his own. I have noticed he tends to go after female characters more than male characters. But thats to be expected. He is a white, British male. We are practically born misogynist.

But if you want to debate games, i'm more than happy to do so.

You say that its socially acceptable to be homophobic in gaming communities. Umm... no. If I saw someone being homophobic in a game, then I would see that they are dealt with in an appropriate manner depending on how they behaved.

Also, you say there are no gay or bisexual lead characters. Have you completely forgotten Fable and Fable 2? Where the lead character could be both? You also only give 2 examples of games with a strong female companion. Half-Life 2? That had the most empowered woman I've ever seen in that kind of game.

Might I also point out that the protagonist of the Metroid series, Samus Aran, is a woman, and that the protagonist of Deus Ex: Invisible War, Alex D, could be chosen to be a woman. Also, Invisible War was full of female characters that didn't just play eyecandy roles (Billie Adams, Klara Sparks, Leila Nassif, Nicolette DuClare etc).

On a final point, you say that these points apply to mainstream games. Most gaming companies will tell you that the mainstream consists of a large percentage of males. This means that they have to create games that appeal directly to MEN. Why do you think there have been loads of crappy things released for the Wii? They are Nintendo's attempt to corner the female market.

Oh, wait, looks like people have already started...

I wish this was on Youtube so I could put it on my Awesomest Things Ever Playlist.

Nintendolover222:
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Is that a compliment?

Boyninja616:

Nintendolover222:
Oh, wait, looks like people have already started...

Is that a compliment?

No, but it's not an insult either. It's a neutral observation relating to my previous post.

I'm going to guess that Mr Croshaw can't sing.. for shit.
However, imagine a Vocoder'd response 'Autotune Reviews' as it were

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