Preview: Civilization V

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This is good. When I'd first read that they were getting rid of religion, I kind of worried that they may be oversimplifying the game. This has laid my biggest concern to rest at least.

sounds fanastic, I can't wait :D

Mortagog:

HTID Raver:
a bit sad that religion isnt in, but wow...

this is gonna be exceptional! seriously cant wait for this!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redacted

Do not fret, for religion in Civ5 has been revised, not removed.

OT: Nice preview, I can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

oohh! thanks for both informing me and expanding my vocabulary!

gonna have so much fun with this game when it ships!

Pugiron:
Alot of the stuff with combat you cite as changes were in Civ4

Like what? I've played a LOT of Civ 4, and none of the combat changes he talks about are in it.

HTID Raver:

Mortagog:

HTID Raver:
a bit sad that religion isnt in, but wow...

this is gonna be exceptional! seriously cant wait for this!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redacted

Do not fret, for religion in Civ5 has been revised, not removed.

OT: Nice preview, I can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

oohh! thanks for both informing me and expanding my vocabulary!

gonna have so much fun with this game when it ships!

Redacted can also mean "to obscure or remove (text) from a document prior to publication or release" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redacted)

As far as I know, they axed religion. I'm sad too :/

thethingthatlurks:
You know, I'd love it if it were playable on my netbook. Can you imagine the procrastination power of a ~six hour battery life netbook and Civ?

Are the system requirements announced? I'd think if anything, Civilization V could be scaled down to run with all the important features on a netbook.

GODDAMNNIT!

lol

well im sure the game will more than make up for it!

Russ, Civ III? Favorite?

Ugh.

Civ2 4 life.

I cannot describe how excited I am for the end to the stack. I could never bring myself to overstack as many units as the computer would.

This is so, damned, exciting.

I don't mind the loss of religion, either. Always felt superfluous.

Giving you odds before the fight so that you can see how your unit's chances are, for example.

migo:

thethingthatlurks:
You know, I'd love it if it were playable on my netbook. Can you imagine the procrastination power of a ~six hour battery life netbook and Civ?

Are the system requirements announced? I'd think if anything, Civilization V could be scaled down to run with all the important features on a netbook.

Nothing on Steam yet. Guess we'll have to wait a bit to find out...

I cannot wait for this. I am still in the middle of a game on civ 4 that I started over 2 years ago with myself (Great Britain) and Russia faced off along our border where no one can make significant gains. We both have over 700 tanks and untold men facing each other. I am too stuborn to not rule the entire world. Crafty Ruskies!

And I'll just sit here patiently, hoping they eventually plan on making another Alpha Centauri game...

If it didn't require steam I'd order the most expensive version of the game available.

Unfortunately it does require steam so I won't be getting it :/.

I don't mind options, I don't like being forced to used unnecessary software though. But once it gets the invitable "9.99 dollars!" on steam I'll buy it I guess.

mountainfire:

Pugiron:
Alot of the stuff with combat you cite as changes were in Civ4

Like what? I've played a LOT of Civ 4, and none of the combat changes he talks about are in it.

I was thinking the same thing.. it appears to be nothing like CivIV in combat. Which I think could be a good thing. One thing as a defensive players, was having to Stack on cities, vs. just being able to build defenses for cities. I also hope they fix the "demand" system. I.E. you can't trade or even ask for tech, yet they can throw a demand at you and if you say no they pout and lose diplo points. I also never really got the spy thing in IV. Alas...

I like that the barbarian cities aren't something you automatically destroy anymore. However, Only being able to control one unit at a time will get very tedious, especially in the late game. Think of how long turns took in Civ IV when you could control your entire army as a single stack!

I think I might have grown out of the Civilization series, but... this seems like it will be pretty good. I guess, as I did with Civ4, I can wait a few years for expansions and a "complete" version to come out, and then I will consider picking this one up. Until then... other games await!

maxben:
Oh God, I need this game so bad!!!
It's the only game I think I've ever actually wanted ever.
Civ IV with Fall from Heaven 2 or Rise of Mankind Mods is GODLY!
In fact, I think I'm just as excited for the Mods as I am for the game itself :)

I am more excited for the mods that will soon flood civfanatic forums then just the game itself. And also in a year to see wich mods will make it to the expansions.

Oh hell yes. I hated how 50 spear men could defend a city against my panzers!

SPECS! GET YER MINIMUM SPECS HERE!

Operating System: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
Processor: Dual Core CPU
Memory: 2GB RAM
Hard Disk Space: 8 GB Free
DVD-ROM Drive: Required for disc-based installation
Video: 256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics
Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card
DirectX®: DirectX® version 9.0c

Recommended specs are as follows:

Operating System: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
Processor: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Hard Disk Space: 8 GB Free
DVD-ROM Drive: Required for disc-based installation
Video: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better
Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card
DirectX®: DirectX® version 11

The graphics card requirement is surprisingly high, and rules out most notebooks. But it looks like DirectX 11 is being used (although what the point of having tesselation is beyond me).

Delusibeta:
So that's Starcraft 2 in July and Civilization V in September. Two massive PC games in three months. Looks like this picture might need some updating.

So let me get this straight... Descent, Fallout, Sacrifice, Planescape: Torment, MDK, and Baldur's Gate are on there, but not Freespace 2? Published by the same company and many gamers will argue it's a better quality game than many of the games on that list.

I just want them to bring back Canada as a playable nation in civ

Horton986:
I just want them to bring back Canada as a playable nation in civ

Maybe they will... and it will be a city state? Lol xD

Wow, it sounds like many of the features that baffled me back when I tried Civ2 have been resolved (a Roman Legionnaire beats an iron-clad battleship? Buh?!), and the gameplay made much more accessible to, say, Total War veterans and more standard wargamers. Good show!

Delusibeta:
SPECS! GET YER MINIMUM SPECS HERE!

Operating System: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
Processor: Dual Core CPU
Memory: 2GB RAM
Hard Disk Space: 8 GB Free
DVD-ROM Drive: Required for disc-based installation
Video: 256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics
Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card
DirectX®: DirectX® version 9.0c

Recommended specs are as follows:

Operating System: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
Processor: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Hard Disk Space: 8 GB Free
DVD-ROM Drive: Required for disc-based installation
Video: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better
Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card
DirectX®: DirectX® version 11

The graphics card requirement is surprisingly high, and rules out most notebooks. But it looks like DirectX 11 is being used (although what the point of having tesselation is beyond me).

Well that rules out my laptop.
Having said that I won't use steam so that ruled me out straight away.

Mortagog:

HTID Raver:
a bit sad that religion isnt in, but wow...

this is gonna be exceptional! seriously cant wait for this!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redacted

Do not fret, for religion in Civ5 has been revised, not removed.

OT: Nice preview, I can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

Actually, there's a quote from one of the designers that suggests it is gone:

Jon Shafer wrote:
We made some changes with religion. Because diplomacy is one of our focuses with Civ V, planning what an AI leader is thinking, how he's going to win the game, that wasn't something that was meshing very well with the religion system. In Civ IV, the religions were primary factors of who liked whom and who disliked whom. And that wasn't meshing very well with what we wanted to do, so we decided to move on without the religion system. But that's mainly because we wanted diplomacy to have more depth and not be so predictable. We wanted to make sure that the AI leaders were taking into account the same things as the player was taking into account. A player might not care what religion you're running, but they might care quite a bit if you attack one of their friends.

I certainly support anything that tightens up the diplomacy system, but I really liked the cultural effect of religion, not to mention the financial bonus once you got the wonder up!

Kalabrikan:

Delusibeta:
So that's Starcraft 2 in July and Civilization V in September. Two massive PC games in three months. Looks like this picture might need some updating.

So let me get this straight... Descent, Fallout, Sacrifice, Planescape: Torment, MDK, and Baldur's Gate are on there, but not Freespace 2? Published by the same company and many gamers will argue it's a better quality game than many of the games on that list.

Not just Baldur's Gate, that is Baldur's Gate Shadows of Amn.(The bestest game to date.)

Nicholas Donaghy:

Mortagog:

HTID Raver:
a bit sad that religion isnt in, but wow...

this is gonna be exceptional! seriously cant wait for this!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redacted

Do not fret, for religion in Civ5 has been revised, not removed.

OT: Nice preview, I can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

Actually, there's a quote from one of the designers that suggests it is gone:

I certainly support anything that tightens up the diplomacy system, but I really liked the cultural effect of religion, not to mention the financial bonus once you got the wonder up!

Daiym, and I thought I recalled reading another preview saying that it was just redacted. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

Well, my favorite Civ was IV, but because it was the very first Civ I've ever played. Good to hear that my 60 bucks were well spent preordering the Steam Digital Deluxe version of the game, I can't wait for it to unlock in September 21.

I hope it's still as "intelligent" as the old Civs, so many games are getting dumbed down these days :(

The new one-unit-per-square system is really gonna change multiplayer warfare.

Was a great read, really looking forward to this now.
The removal of stacks is very interesting.

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