265: Punching the Baby Seal of PC Gaming

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nhgifnd:

Generic Gamer:
honestly it comes across as not wanting to do any maintenance work and getting annoyed when it breaks.

There are two types of people in this world: this sentence perfectly delineates the boundary between them.

I admit that I don't know jack about computers and don't care: as a consequence, and in exactly the same way as the writer of this article, I don't even try to play games on them anymore.

I have a job I do for money all day. I don't want to be doing tech support on behalf of my own entertainment at the end of it.

But, sure, if you know computers, keep yours up to date, and see error messages as fun riddles to solve, "I just want to plug, play, relax and have fun" will seem like "I am cheap, lazy, and ignorant."

And that's fair. Like I said, two types of people.

I didn't realise this ball was still rolling. You're right I reckon, I love computers so keeping mine functional isn't really a challenge ut others can not want to, I recognise this at least in potential.

The only reason I commented at all was that I didn't like this article, not that I disagreed with it. The tone just wasn't very professional.

hansari:

On another note, who can figure this one out?

Half Life 2 plays smoothly on my pc, but Portal crashes 5-6 times before I can finish. Same PC specs, same system requirements for both games, same source engine...

Portal is a newer game so it was probably built for newer drivers. Try updating your graphics card's drivers.

Generic Gamer:

hansari:

On another note, who can figure this one out?

Half Life 2 plays smoothly on my pc, but Portal crashes 5-6 times before I can finish. Same PC specs, same system requirements for both games, same source engine...

Portal is a newer game so it was probably built for newer drivers. Try updating your graphics card's drivers.

Individual issues on source games could just be as simple as checking the integruity of the games cache. I've said this on a number of occasions to a number of people but it's still true. STEAM games sometimes mess up but its VERY quick and easy to put right.

As i have said again numberious times (you can see my comments on the front page, like 2nd comment). Treat your computer right and it will treat you right.

Scrumpmonkey:

Individual issues on source games could just be as simple as checking the integruity of the games cache. I've said this on a number of occasions to a number of people but it's still true. STEAM games sometimes mess up but its VERY quick and easy to put right.

As i have said again numberious times (you can see my comments on the front page, like 2nd comment). Treat your computer right and it will treat you right.

I've never had a foul up happen funnily enough, not with steam files at least. I don't think any of my buddies have either but it's worth checking. Compared to that I've had quite a few foul ups from neglecting to install the latest drivers. For one period of about a fortnight I'd forgotten that I'd upgraded my card, it was running off of the oldest ATI drivers provided in the box because I'd been installing nvidia updates.

I wasn't being condescending or anything, I've just had that happen before.

hansari:

ShrooM_DoughKiD:
You said that you don't have time to build your own PC, to scout for parts need only take 20 minutes a day, buying aforementioned parts and installing them need only take a day.

If you know what your doing but, and I know this sounds shocking, not everyone who plays pc games knows whats going on inside their pc.

"gaming on a pc" correlates with "understanding of computers" to the same degree as "driving a car" correlates with "understanding cars".

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On another note, who can figure this one out?

Half Life 2 plays smoothly on my pc, but Portal crashes 5-6 times before I can finish. Same PC specs, same system requirements for both games, same source engine...

If you don't understand how to install certain parts, find a tutorial on the internet, ask a friend to help or read the manuals that come with the parts. If your games are crashing, maybe it was a bad install of Portal. I guess you've reinstalled Steam or even looked deeper into the problem.

Sounds like PCs hate you.

Good thing anecdotal evidence means nothing, in the grand scheme of things.

It is true however that the PC is high maintenance, like a nice house.

I could become a console gamer but then again i could eat shit and im not likely to do either

PC gaming used to be for nerds who knew how their systems worked. People who had no issue with a quick fix. People who could easily handle and troubleshoot issues on their own.

These days, it seems, some people have lost that ability and simply resort to whining. Which is hilariously funny, since PC gaming is so much easier to get into than it used to be. Gaming companies are jumping through hoops to appease and avert the whiny masses who can't bother to RTFM, yet obviously they're unable to account for every single configuration out there.

Especially when people load their PCs with crapware and think so very highly of themselves and their custom configurations. It couldn't possibly be that they screwed up royally somewhere. Disabled some vital service while "optimizing" their system, or installed some catastrophically incompatible anti virus or firewall. Not forgetting all the trojans so many people seem to magically attract from simply surfing the web. What's THAT all about?

Anyway, PC gaming is easily superior to console gaming. There is nothing positive that consoles do that PCs could not. Slap a controller on a well configured PC and it's practically a console - except for all the added benefits of a PC. Often times much superior to consoles in graphics and handling.

Looks like either side of the argument won't see the other's point.

Consoles are convenient. They give you roughly the same game experience with the least amount of effort.

PCs are versatile. They can offer a huge amount of ways in which you can improve or somehow tweak how you experience a game. In contrast, you have to be willing to put some effort and learn how to do things yourself.

Both have you investing in hardware, like that nice big tv so the text will be readable or the latest video card so you will be able to see the latest visual effects.

I've tried to get into PC gaming but I'm close to the author's point of view on this. The only thing that's keeping me from just saying, "Fuck PC's" is that they got some damn fun games on there. I have TF2 and that's just barely how much my computer can take. I can't play most payload maps or ANY map with more than 24 people on it without dropping to three frames per second.

I buy a console. It works. Just as the writer said. I go out and buy a game for said console. It works. Consoles are just far better than PC's for accessability and conveinence.

The pros to the PC's are obvious just by looking all over youtube. Customizability is bigger in about any PC game than any console game. Mods and Skins are fun but even when I try to put some of the simple ones to my TF2 they work maybe 1/2 of the time.

There comes to be a fight between customizability and accessability when you compare Consoles and PC's and for me, the inaccessability of the PC is too much of a liability since all the customizations in the world don't do jack squat if you can't even get the game to run in the first place. (Not to mention the price difference)

@genericgamer: I replied to your old post because it represented so many points on the PC side perfectly: I totally saw what you meant, we just clearly had different views on the same situation.

The total PC argument seems to be roughly: "PC detractors are lazy, RTFM, you 'just' have to (insert technical jargon here), console graphics are inferior."

See also:

znix:
PC gaming used to be for nerds who knew how their systems worked (...) These days, it seems, some people have lost that ability and simply resort to whining. (...) Gaming companies are (...) unable to account for every single configuration out there.

znix:

There is nothing positive that consoles do that PCs could not.

Except appease my ignorant laziness, a point which Aisaku sums up perfectly:

Aisaku:
Looks like either side of the argument won't see the other's point.

Consoles are convenient. They give you roughly the same game experience with the least amount of effort.

PCs are versatile. They can offer a huge amount of ways in which you can improve or somehow tweak how you experience a game. In contrast, you have to be willing to put some effort and learn how to do things yourself.

We Joe Consoles are generally willing to wait a few years for those better graphics to trickle down to us.

nhgifnd:

Except appease my ignorant laziness, a point which Aisaku sums up perfectly:

A well configured PC doesn't require additional tinkering. In fact, most computers sold off the shelf with a decent graphics card will typically be ready to run any new game without problems. You may have to uninstall some of the crap that comes preinstalled or simply do a fresh install from scratch, but once it's done once - getting games to play on a PC is just as easy as on a console.

No normal PCs will die with a ROD either or have odd region locks restricting what software they can run. Stuff simply works and often times it's much easier patching up and/or modding games to your liking than it ever could be on a console.

Where PCs tend to go wrong are from people who think they know how to optimize a system, but who in reality are ignorant of what they're doing and do far more harm than good. Then once they run a game, and it doesn't work, they blame everyone except themselves. If the PC tied their hands just like a console does, chances are things would always work.

Generic Gamer:
I've got all those games and none of those crashes, is your hardware maybe a bit old?

Also I didn't like this article very much purely because of the tone. This isn't what I come here to read, it wasn't smart and it wasn't informative. I know it was supposed to be a humorous look at the problem but honestly it comes across as not wanting to do any maintenance work and getting annoyed when it breaks. If you had a console that could play every game ever made you'd expect a certain amount of tinkering too.

sometimes (like myself) your hardware can be too much for it (as in running old ass games), so the game lags insanely and the hardware refuses to run the pile that you call a game.

i built my new custom pc at the end of july, and ive already spent an accumulated 30 some hours forumming and tinkering to get my games to work

(now i love the pc and what it can do) but GOD DAMMIT, the amount of possibilities for errors and bugs is endless on the pc and it really sucks getting new games and not being able to play them till the next fucking day because of technical reasons

znix:

nhgifnd:

Except appease my ignorant laziness, a point which Aisaku sums up perfectly:

A well configured PC doesn't require additional tinkering. (...) You may have to uninstall some of the crap that comes preinstalled or simply do a fresh install from scratch, but once it's done once (...) Where PCs tend to go wrong are from people who think they know how to optimize a system, but who in reality are ignorant of what they're doing and do far more harm than good.

To diplomatically frame my skepticism as a compliment, this is a great example of a PC-savvy person underestimating the challenge involved in their own expertise: "you don't have to tinker, except for the need to tinker - but there won't be a problem unless you tinker wrong." At the very least, there's the need to tinker periodically every few months thereafter if you want to continue enjoying new releases (new graphics cards, etc).

At the very most, of course, there are all the posts to the contrary.

To say it again: you know how to use PCs well, I respect that, and if there were a "have better graphics and more choices" option on my console games, I would totally put a checkmark in that box: but I think you underestimate the hassle these PC issues are for the rest of us - the poster below you, for instance.

And to pre-emptively reiterate my "user error" counter-argument: if you sell someone a glass house and tell him he should adopt a "pillow centric" style of decor and be careful when carrying heavy objects, it's not meaningful to blame his "user error" when the inevitable happens. Many people have problems with their glass houses: you may be a Glass House Ninja, but it's more a tribute to your skills than an advertisement of the ease and usability of the glass house medium that you're in a position to criticise them for incompetence.

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Here's a remixing of your posts to help you see things from the perspective of a dumb confused person:

znix:

A well configured PC doesn't require additional tinkering (... but if you buy a premade PC ...) You may have to uninstall some of the crap that comes preinstalled (...) Gaming companies (are) obviously (...) unable to account for every single configuration out there (especially when people have) Disabled some vital service while "optimizing" their system.

Also:

znix:
If the PC tied their hands just like a console does, chances are things would always work.

Isn't that just a different take on what Aisaku said?

Aisaku:

Consoles are convenient. They give you roughly the same game experience with the least amount of effort.

PCs are versatile. They can offer a huge amount of ways in which you can improve or somehow tweak how you experience a game. In contrast, you have to be willing to put some effort and learn how to do things yourself.

You see it as "tying their hands" whereas we see it as "taking care of the hassle for us." Two types of people, putting different emotional spins on the same set of facts.

What amuses me is just how aggressive PC gamers get over such a small thing. One guy posts an article about why he doesn't game on PC as much as he used to and dozens of obnoxious comments spring up.

"You're a troll!" (Because he disagrees with you)
"You're a PC illiterate idiot!" (Despite the fact that he's obviously been PC gaming for a long time)
"If this was a normal thread, you'd be banned!" (He really, really wouldn't; not everyone is as scared of differing opinions as you are, and the mods certainly aren't)

Frankydee:

Edzor:

Frankydee:

Gaming is just gaming...

How WRONG you are...

That's like saying that a person that watches soap opera all day has the same good taste in cinematography as a person that goes at the cinema to see the newest releases and review them on specialist websites...

Totally WRONG.

I see you've totally missed the point of my post entirely considering you took that way out the intended context.

but okay then.

It's cute how he had to put the word 'wrong' in block capitals. I think we've found the next level up from a PC elitist; a PC zealot. Thank goodness he's been banned.

A 34 year old giving up on PC gaming over Crysis? Something tells me this isn't a real PC gamer, or at least he hasn't been PC gaming for very long. You want pain and suffering in PC gaming? Let me take you back to a simpler time, before DirectX and Windows gaming. Back when DOS ruled the day, and gamers needed to be comfortable with files such as autoexec.bat and config.sys

See, back in those ancient days there was what was known as "base" memory, and "high" memory. Base memory was 640k, and high memory was everything else. The problem came in when certain games needed X amount of base memory to run. Most of the time there was plenty, however some of the higher powered games of the time needed above 600k of base memory to run. In order to do that, you had to make a boot disk that had a custom autoexec.bat and config.sys that was fine tuned to:

a) avoid loading all unnecessary drivers/programs
and
b) try to get as many drivers that you did need to run in higher memory

The Mig-29 expansion for Falcon 3.0 required 614k base memory to run. If there was a time in PC gaming history when someone was truly given license to punch baby seals, that was the time.

Today? Please. Make sure your drivers are up to date, get the latest patches, install the game, and play. If there are any problems, then nine times out of ten, the solution is just a google search away.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that everybody should game on a PC - your entertainment is your business. I however am happy that throughout my long history of PC gaming, PC versions of games are not only finally plentiful; but are also better in every conceivable way than console versions.

uppitycracker:
Wow, I had a really hard time reading that. Anti-PC gaming statements like this sure are infuriating. People talk about how the PC market is dying (which couldn't be farther from the truth), and here we have so-called writers basically talking down on the whole experience, when it's most likely due to user error? I mean, a number of factors can cause the problems you've explained. And most of them usually have to do with ignorance on the users part.

It's funny, because all of those games listed, I have had zero issues with. Crysis especially. What am I doing differently? Honestly, probably not much. Just simple things, such as keeping my PC free of dust, making sure I don't bottleneck my system with one amazing part and one ancient one (which I'd almost be willing to bet one of these two things is yer problem), ect.

Honestly, it's ignorant posting like this that I thought I was avoiding by reading the escapist. It amazes me that this was even published. Shit like this is only going to give the wrong perception of PC gamers to people who don't know better, and a market that is already struggling in the console age doesn't need crap like this tainting it's image. In short, and I'm sure I speak for all PC gamers when I say this: Fuck PC gaming? No, sir, fuck you.

To be fair, he even mentions that the article is tongue in cheek.

Thankfully I live in an age where the computer updates itself and fix most of its problem. If it wasn't for my extremely sub par hardware, my pc gaming life would've been much peachier.

You know... if you're going to get excessively mad at your computer for not running games while you probably didn't bother to even glance at the system requirements, then first of all I won't pity you, and second of all, I'd like to just say that it's the people like you that I don't even care to have on the PC gaming community that I enjoy playing in. Go play your console and enjoy paying too much money for your games.

I'll leave you with a thought though: Consider all the money you're wasting on paying for Console games and imagine the kind of great PC hardware you could buy instead. Then you wouldn't get all pissy about Crysis perhaps...

I agree with this article completely. PC elitism pisses the crap out of me, because paying money for upgrades for the possibility of viruses screwing you over, the possibility of lag, and the 3 hour long installs, seems so pointless to me. And a controller is my favorite way to game. Not to mention a 360 (and a PS3, I'm quite sure) only costs around $300, will never lag, has no installs, and you'll never have to buy upgrades, just seems to me superior.

I don't seem to be part of the majority though.

xxcloud417xx:
You know... if you're going to get excessively mad at your computer for not running games while you probably didn't bother to even glance at the system requirements, then first of all I won't pity you, and second of all, I'd like to just say that it's the people like you that I don't even care to have on the PC gaming community that I enjoy playing in. Go play your console and enjoy paying too much money for your games.

I'll leave you with a thought though: Consider all the money you're wasting on paying for Console games and imagine the kind of great PC hardware you could buy instead. Then you wouldn't get all pissy about Crysis perhaps...

..

Because the occasional 10 dollars you'll save buying only PC games will totally end up saving you enough money to buy a super computer.

It costs like literally a thousand dollars to buy a premade machine that you can guarantee to yourself you're going to run whatever you put into it. And if you're going to build it your own way I can bet it'll cost around the same amount.

Digital_Utopia:
(Tells horror story about old tyme PC gaming.)

If there was a time in PC gaming history when someone was truly given license to punch baby seals, that was the time.
(...)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that everybody should game on a PC (...) I however am happy that throughout my long history of PC gaming, PC versions of games are not only finally plentiful; but are also better in every conceivable way than console versions.

"Why would someone abandon my hobby now that it's much better than it was when I got into it?"

This is perhaps the wrong question.

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Kidding, no offense meant - I can see why PC gaming would have been fun in the past, if you have a work ethic - the author's analogy to his dad's fiddling with a car engine when it was new and exciting, etc - he's just expressing his lazy desire for quick gratification, which - again - is the one factor overlooked by PC gamers when they say things like "better in every way" - convenience is one big way you don't seem to be acknowledging is even a "way" - just because the hassles used to be worse doesn't mean they're gone, you're just calloused and experienced from years of rough treatment.

skywalkerlion:

xxcloud417xx:
You know... if you're going to get excessively mad at your computer for not running games while you probably didn't bother to even glance at the system requirements, then first of all I won't pity you, and second of all, I'd like to just say that it's the people like you that I don't even care to have on the PC gaming community that I enjoy playing in. Go play your console and enjoy paying too much money for your games.

I'll leave you with a thought though: Consider all the money you're wasting on paying for Console games and imagine the kind of great PC hardware you could buy instead. Then you wouldn't get all pissy about Crysis perhaps...

..

Because the occasional 10 dollars you'll save buying only PC games will totally end up saving you enough money to buy a super computer.

It costs like literally a thousand dollars to buy a premade machine that you can guarantee to yourself you're going to run whatever you put into it. And if you're going to build it your own way I can bet it'll cost around the same amount.

Go and tell me how much it would cost on console to get GTA IV + Episodes from Liberty City + Max Payne 1 + Max Payne 2 + GTA 1, 2, 3, Vice City and San Andreas + Manhunt + Bully Scholarship Edition.

Now if you can beat the $45 I spent kudos to you.

xxcloud417xx:

skywalkerlion:

xxcloud417xx:
You know... if you're going to get excessively mad at your computer for not running games while you probably didn't bother to even glance at the system requirements, then first of all I won't pity you, and second of all, I'd like to just say that it's the people like you that I don't even care to have on the PC gaming community that I enjoy playing in. Go play your console and enjoy paying too much money for your games.

I'll leave you with a thought though: Consider all the money you're wasting on paying for Console games and imagine the kind of great PC hardware you could buy instead. Then you wouldn't get all pissy about Crysis perhaps...

..

Because the occasional 10 dollars you'll save buying only PC games will totally end up saving you enough money to buy a super computer.

It costs like literally a thousand dollars to buy a premade machine that you can guarantee to yourself you're going to run whatever you put into it. And if you're going to build it your own way I can bet it'll cost around the same amount.

Go and tell me how much it would cost on console to get GTA IV + Episodes from Liberty City + Max Payne 1 + Max Payne 2 + GTA 1, 2, 3, Vice City and San Andreas + Manhunt + Bully Scholarship Edition.

Now if you can beat the $45 I spent kudos to you.

Yeah, but most if not all of those are pretty old, and you can get them for real cheap for PC but you probably bought them already for your console if you've just switched to PC. I was referring to new releases, which cost 50$ (generally the popular ones are 60$ anyway).

skywalkerlion:

xxcloud417xx:

skywalkerlion:

xxcloud417xx:
You know... if you're going to get excessively mad at your computer for not running games while you probably didn't bother to even glance at the system requirements, then first of all I won't pity you, and second of all, I'd like to just say that it's the people like you that I don't even care to have on the PC gaming community that I enjoy playing in. Go play your console and enjoy paying too much money for your games.

I'll leave you with a thought though: Consider all the money you're wasting on paying for Console games and imagine the kind of great PC hardware you could buy instead. Then you wouldn't get all pissy about Crysis perhaps...

..

Because the occasional 10 dollars you'll save buying only PC games will totally end up saving you enough money to buy a super computer.

It costs like literally a thousand dollars to buy a premade machine that you can guarantee to yourself you're going to run whatever you put into it. And if you're going to build it your own way I can bet it'll cost around the same amount.

Go and tell me how much it would cost on console to get GTA IV + Episodes from Liberty City + Max Payne 1 + Max Payne 2 + GTA 1, 2, 3, Vice City and San Andreas + Manhunt + Bully Scholarship Edition.

Now if you can beat the $45 I spent kudos to you.

Yeah, but most if not all of those are pretty old, and you can get them for real cheap for PC but you probably bought them already for your console if you've just switched to PC. I was referring to new releases, which cost 50$ (generally the popular ones are 60$ anyway).

No I did not buy them beforehand. I actually borrowed them from friends and etc... And I didn't just switch, I've been a PC gamer since the days I sat on my Daddy's lap watching him play Doom and Lemmings. lol :D

Ahhh, reminds of when Relic forced me to download a patch for CoH. Spent a week trying to get CoH running again.

UPPITYCRACKER +1, Damn right man!

uppitycracker:
Wow, I had a really hard time reading that. Anti-PC gaming statements like this sure are infuriating. People talk about how the PC market is dying (which couldn't be farther from the truth), and here we have so-called writers basically talking down on the whole experience, when it's most likely due to user error? I mean, a number of factors can cause the problems you've explained. And most of them usually have to do with ignorance on the users part.

It's funny, because all of those games listed, I have had zero issues with. Crysis especially. What am I doing differently? Honestly, probably not much. Just simple things, such as keeping my PC free of dust, making sure I don't bottleneck my system with one amazing part and one ancient one (which I'd almost be willing to bet one of these two things is yer problem), ect.

Honestly, it's ignorant posting like this that I thought I was avoiding by reading the escapist. It amazes me that this was even published. Shit like this is only going to give the wrong perception of PC gamers to people who don't know better, and a market that is already struggling in the console age doesn't need crap like this tainting it's image. In short, and I'm sure I speak for all PC gamers when I say this: Fuck PC gaming? No, sir, fuck you.

I can't believe this shit got published,
it's bona fide justification for the entire INTERNET HATE MACHINE.
FACEPALM

CaptDom:
UPPITYCRACKER +1, Damn right man!

uppitycracker:
Wow, I had a really hard time reading that. Anti-PC gaming statements like this sure are infuriating. People talk about how the PC market is dying (which couldn't be farther from the truth), and here we have so-called writers basically talking down on the whole experience, when it's most likely due to user error? I mean, a number of factors can cause the problems you've explained. And most of them usually have to do with ignorance on the users part.

It's funny, because all of those games listed, I have had zero issues with. Crysis especially. What am I doing differently? Honestly, probably not much. Just simple things, such as keeping my PC free of dust, making sure I don't bottleneck my system with one amazing part and one ancient one (which I'd almost be willing to bet one of these two things is yer problem), ect.

Honestly, it's ignorant posting like this that I thought I was avoiding by reading the escapist. It amazes me that this was even published. Shit like this is only going to give the wrong perception of PC gamers to people who don't know better, and a market that is already struggling in the console age doesn't need crap like this tainting it's image. In short, and I'm sure I speak for all PC gamers when I say this: Fuck PC gaming? No, sir, fuck you.

I can't believe this shit got published,
it's bona fide justification for the entire INTERNET HATE MACHINE.
FACEPALM

Why thank you, kind sir

PC gamer here, and Fallout 3 was infuriating for me as well. Crysis never gave me any issues, though.

Eventually I got FO3 working properly (lo and behold, Bethesda sucks at porting), loaded up some mods, and it's now my favorite game of all time.

THIS! OH GOD THIS!
yes! FUCK PC GAMING! no tinkering needs to be done, no new hardware, no nothing when you go with a console. just fuck the pc, fuck it. worst. gaming platform. ever.

im glad i found this article, and whenever someone wants to tell me pc gaming is superior ill show them this.

uppitycracker:

CaptDom:
UPPITYCRACKER +1, Damn right man!

uppitycracker:
Wow, I had a really hard time reading that. Anti-PC gaming statements like this sure are infuriating. People talk about how the PC market is dying (which couldn't be farther from the truth), and here we have so-called writers basically talking down on the whole experience, when it's most likely due to user error? I mean, a number of factors can cause the problems you've explained. And most of them usually have to do with ignorance on the users part.

It's funny, because all of those games listed, I have had zero issues with. Crysis especially. What am I doing differently? Honestly, probably not much. Just simple things, such as keeping my PC free of dust, making sure I don't bottleneck my system with one amazing part and one ancient one (which I'd almost be willing to bet one of these two things is yer problem), ect.

Honestly, it's ignorant posting like this that I thought I was avoiding by reading the escapist. It amazes me that this was even published. Shit like this is only going to give the wrong perception of PC gamers to people who don't know better, and a market that is already struggling in the console age doesn't need crap like this tainting it's image. In short, and I'm sure I speak for all PC gamers when I say this: Fuck PC gaming? No, sir, fuck you.

I can't believe this shit got published,
it's bona fide justification for the entire INTERNET HATE MACHINE.
FACEPALM

Why thank you, kind sir

except its not hate speech when its true.
pc gamers are individuals with more expendable income and more time on their hands than the average gamer.
honestly, how does anyone expect PC gaming to be better to get into when its so much easier to just buy a console and KNOW that when you pop the game in it will WORK instead of having to buy a new graphics chip, tear apart your computer, and replace parts every few months to a year?
fuck that, plus, if you dont have a credit card, getting all those "good deals" on games is useless
and if you dont have good internet connection speed, the DRM will just kill you
seriously, console gaming is just the way to go, its cheaper, more reliable, and you get a LOT of good ttitles anyways, like Mass Effect, Halo Reach, Gears of War, Uncharted, God of War, Grand Theft Auto, Just Cause, Crackdown, Yakuza, and MANY MANY MORE!

sure you're sacraficing games like Starcraft 2 and Civilization 5, but you know what? thats a small price to pay for constant reliablilty and inot having to spend hundreds more than you need to just to get a game to fucking work on the highest graphics setting(which console games dont need since they're desiggned to just work anyways :P)

Seriously guys,
why is this so difficult ?

Yes, PCs are a bit more complicated and have the amazing ability to crash (but so does the current console generation, so yeah...). But that is because they can do much, much more than any console.

If ALL you want to do is gaming, than yes, a console is probably better.
And why shouldnīt it ? Itīs an almost single purpose device.
Purity of purpose, people, it makes things easier.

PCs will always be a bit less user-friendly than consoles.
No one will ever be able to change that.
But as long as I can still use my PC to game, while being able to use it as a word processor, while being able to use it as a video editing tool, while being able to programm on it, while being able to do anything else I want to do, with the hardware I want to do it with,
I seriously see no reason to complain.

If ALL you want to do is gaming, than yes, a console is probably better.
And if ALL you want to do is gaming, why the fuck would you use a PC ?

Complexity brings opportunity,
and complications.

Excellent, funny article sir. Glad it got re-linked on the "top stories of 2010" page.

I've never had a good PC, nor have I ever had the money to get/build one. This is the very core reason that I roll 360, and have been doing so for some time. This pretty much sums up my main problem with PC gaming - My 360's never had one single problem (it's not even RROD'd once, though to be fair I've been very careful with it) and I got it for around Ģ120. Put simply, it's done every single little thing I asked of it, and I've been perfectly happy. Meanwhile, I use my PC for internet browsing, working, and most things you'd expect to be able to do with a PC - but, due to its server motherboard, it can't run games (except for Homeworld, thank feth). It's a perfectly good arrangement - sure, I miss out on some RTS games, including some that look really fun, but it's a workable tradeoff. And since I have no problem with shooters, I have no problem with the 360 (me and all my closest friends agree that console controllers are better for shooters, including the PC gamer who's got a monstrous quad-core dream machine all to himself... lucky bastard).

This was recently my experience with Monday Night Combat. Free weekend?! It thought, how could this go wrong. I played. And of course, a lot of other newbs played too. It was fun. I got some kills. I got more deaths. I said, this is something good. This is something my friends should enjoy. And they've got birthdays just around the corner anyways.

1 4-pack deal-of-a-lifetime later, and my friends are downloading Monday Night Combat.

Hey, wanna play tonight? Yea? Sure. What time? 8ish? Alright, time for some MONDAY NIGHT COMBAT.

Uh, hey, my monitor went blank.
[15 minutes later]
Okay I think we deleted the right folder this time, go ahead and uninstall and reinstall one more time. Yea, no black screeen? Sweet. TIME FOR SOME MONDAY NIGHT COMBAT!
Oh, it crashed?
[2 hours later]
Ok, that should just about do it. Tomorrow, we'll play some MONDAY NIGHT COMBAT.
[tomorrow]
Alright, are you logged in? Ok, lets make a game. I'll, um, alright, server name is noobsauce. Do you see it? No? Maybe you can type... hmm, where do you type it in? Well how about join game from the Steam interface? Server Error... ummm. Alright, I'll check the forums.
[15 minutes later]
Alright, I've opened all the ports, lemme try again. Still server error? Boo, well maybe they'll patch it. Lets just join one of the dedicated servers. No, not that one. Ok, I'm in, are you in? Alright. Hmm, how do we get on the same team.... oh, you crashed again? Fuck.

(I still have not been able to join a multiplayer game coop or versus with my brother since we bought the game last week).

All that to say, I hear ya. If I didn't have such nostalgia vested in PC Gaming I'd have probably tossed it to the curb a long time ago.

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