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uppitycracker:
Wow, I had a really hard time reading that. Anti-PC gaming statements like this sure are infuriating. People talk about how the PC market is dying (which couldn't be farther from the truth), and here we have so-called writers basically talking down on the whole experience, when it's most likely due to user error? I mean, a number of factors can cause the problems you've explained. And most of them usually have to do with ignorance on the users part.

It's funny, because all of those games listed, I have had zero issues with. Crysis especially. What am I doing differently? Honestly, probably not much. Just simple things, such as keeping my PC free of dust, making sure I don't bottleneck my system with one amazing part and one ancient one (which I'd almost be willing to bet one of these two things is yer problem), ect.

Honestly, it's ignorant posting like this that I thought I was avoiding by reading the escapist. It amazes me that this was even published. Shit like this is only going to give the wrong perception of PC gamers to people who don't know better, and a market that is already struggling in the console age doesn't need crap like this tainting it's image. In short, and I'm sure I speak for all PC gamers when I say this: Fuck PC gaming? No, sir, fuck you.

Wow, I had a really hard time reading that. Anti-anti-PC gaming statements like this sure are infuriating.People talk about how the PC market is dying (which we cannot know for certain), and here we have so-called posters basically talking down on those who experience problems, when it's most likely due to system error? I mean, a number of factors can cause the problems you've explained. And most of them usually have to do with ignorance on the reader's part.

It's funny, because all of those games listed, many people have had numerous issues with. Crysis especially.What are they doing differently? Honestly, probably not much.

Honestly, it's ignorant posting like this that I thought I was avoiding by reading the escapist. It amazes me that this was even published. Shit like this is only going to give the wrong perception of frustrated PC gamers to people who don't know better, and a market that you gave the impression that wasn't struggling in the console age doesn't need crap like this tainting it's image. In short, and I'm sure I speak for all PC gamers when I say this: Fuck those who voice their complaints about PC gaming? No, sir, fuck you.

...Too bad. I hate to get like this, but If you can't take the time out of your busy gaming schedule to put together and do the upkeep on a gaming PC, Don't game on the PC. Obviously you've decided not to, or to do so less, but in all seriousness I'm just not sympathetic. I don't buy it, that you have a good handle on how to upkeep it and faced problems so bad that you're in a rage that could get you arrested. Though if it's a laptop, and a Dell no less, I feel like you asked for it to some extent.

That is an amount snippy cynicism, not wholly, but even if those weren't the problem, I doubt you put the literally small effort required to keep a PC in good working order. I seriously want to recommend that you buy a mac and taste the other end of the spectrum, where you have no control over the hardware, and similarly little over the software, and have all of the upkeep in the hands of tech support somewhere and just use purely proprietary solutions like the xbox and Macintosh. Where your efforts to solve problems are circumvented by the agreements you agree to use them and you're purely at their whim. Civ will come out for the Mac too, you're made in the shade with that one.

The possibility that you have no problems with either of these platforms exists, but there are technical issues with those pieces of hardware too, and with those, you have NO control over them without invalidating your warranty permanently and seeing an end to all support for something that is made deliberately difficult to solve problems on.

To correct a previous poster; In order to purchase a fairly nice gaming rig, custom built with non-awful parts, you're still looking at 500-700 depending on pricing. I know, I've looked. A lot.

On topic: I generally have to agree with other folks who've posted thus far. It sounds like an issue with your human error/drivers/parts. Though, admittedly, 90% of problems can be attributed to that not-so-holy trinity. That's not to say that you're incompetent, far from it, it's just a very general assertion based on past and present experience. :P

I also realize that this is an opinion based article meant to entertain and you still have every intention, willing or not, to continue on your oh so merry way with PC gaming. Duh. So, given that realization, I'm not exactly enraged by the content. It's just griping about what we all deal with on a daily basis with our chosen hobby.

On that note; A giant screw you to KotOR on Win 7.

Oh, and, for the record...Red Ring of Death. These sorts of problems aren't limited to PCs, they're just more prevalent given the vast variety of parts, as was mentioned.

Chuck Wendig:
Punching the Baby Seal of PC Gaming

You see that cute little baby seal? Chuck Wendig wants to punch that seal in the mouth because Crysis locked up on him. Again.

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"You pay this much money for a car, the shit's supposed to work."

The above statement, is why automechanics and pc-techs alike have jobs. People that dont know you need to change the oil now and then. Cant tell you how many times I hear a similar outcry over pcs. But well it puts food on my table :)

But seriously, prebuilt computers. Even from big brands like Dell, are not very good. They cut corners to increase profit, and no matter how awsome the design of the box theres always a pig in there somewhere that makes your life difficult.

You want a trouble free pc? Do your research, buy high-quality parts, assemble them yourself and then maintain them properly.

Big brand pcs are a complete mess of weird motherboards, undersized powersupplies, cheap ram, bad cooling and assembly **** ups.

Happy customers do not make profit, cheap crap that sort of work until the warranty expires do. And if your sales dip, just do an ad-campaign and people will believe your brand is spotless again.

Capitalism ftw :)

Wow this was just more of a "console fanboy" view of the pc games than a pc gaming experience, and it was interesting to say the least, or the most, dunno. Either way ...u didn't even mention games that work perfectly on the pc, u just clapped ur lips around the consoles and sucked hard.

squid5580:

Oh sorry I wasn't talking RDR (I fully expect a game like that to crash at least once)I was talking with games in general. I have had my PS3 crash from arcade titles to full retail games. I have had it crash on the XMB with nothing in it. Just trying to see my friend list or update my trophies. It is either because the slim doesn't have enough ventilation or there is something wrong with mine (because it gets hot fast) but I didn't get the extended warranty and no bloody way am I giving them half of what I paid for it to fix it. So I just keep givin MS all of my money.

heh i meant in general too, just gave specific examples in my experience. It would seem like most mulitiplatform games are created for the 360 then ported. (pretty sure devs just arent too happy to work with the PS3 Software and OS)

Ah, make one mention of the PC not being the master race and just look at all the negative comments flocking towards it like flies to... whatever it is that flies like.

The PC isn't a platform built to play games on. Pure and simple. It can play games and games get made for them simply because... well... they can make them. Same reason we have games on mobile phones these days. But because it's not built solely for playing them, problems arise.

Some stick with it, putting extra effort just so they can mod the game and build their own version of it with slightly better graphics. They fight for what they like. And judging by the length of some of the arguments they have, spend about the equal amount of time defending the time they spend playing in the first place.

Some don't. They see games as well... games. Something to unwind with and just play. Although that group spends the same amount of time playing saying how almost every game this generation is shit. No matter what generation it is.

Whatever side you're on, the other will label you a fanboy. Because that's what we do on this big wide interweb.

-Remy

LostGryphon:

On topic: I generally have to agree with other folks who've posted thus far. It sounds like an issue with your human error/drivers/parts. Though, admittedly, 90% of problems can be attributed to that not-so-holy trinity. That's not to say that you're incompetent, far from it, it's just a very general assertion based on past and present experience. :P

I also realize that this is an opinion based article meant to entertain and you still have every intention, willing or not, to continue on your oh so merry way with PC gaming. Duh. So, given that realization, I'm not exactly enraged by the content. It's just griping about what we all deal with on a daily basis with our chosen hobby.

That's the thing. Despite the rage this article seems to evoke, careful readers of the article would note:

a) I sure do own a lot of PC games.

b) I sure do plan to buy more PC games.

My issue may very well be parts and drivers. I'm a capable, if not brilliant, user of PCs, so I'm confident it's not human error. I merely grow weary at the parade of problems encountered and undocumented fixes necessary. I know I'm not alone in experiencing such issues.

The article is meant to entertain, not enrage.

Those who are enraged might consider buying a Zen garden or a Koi pond. Something nice and relaxing. Breathe in. Breathe out.

Ahhhh.

-- Chuck

Kojiro ftt:
Amen.

Some day they will add keyboard & mouse support to consoles and PCs will be truly dead. I don't understand why they don't see that. WoW, RTS, etc will all be ported as soon as keyboard & mouse are natively supported.

Good luck getting the console publishers to take a chance on something new if that happens. I'm not saying one market is better or worse than the other, but you're ignoring the fundamental distinction and instead focusing on a simple difference in hardware. The real value of the PC platform in the gaming industry is its lack of restrictions compared to first-party console publishers.

Yes, console games have a consistent hardware profile, but they aim at a mass market and don't serve the smaller niches that exist throughout the community. The entire field is dominated by a handful of very similar, very safe franchises because that's what sells to the largest demographic.

It's true that we see that on the PC too, but that's because development budgets are out of control and publishers are playing it safe. Unfortunately, that's not going to work. If you look at the best selling PC games of the last several years, they're almost all PC exclusives.

chuckwendig:

Also: while I've only sold a couple photos and wouldn't consider myself a pro, I do have a DSLR and a case of lenses. They all work very well and I've had absolutely no problems with them. Very plug-and-play. Works as intended.

-- Chuck

Well then Chuck, it appears to me that you're not using canon system, hah. It would probably be advisable not to dwell into frontfocus/backfocus issues on a gaming forum. Anyway, your article was a good enough excuse for my little rant, so thanks for this. Nothing beats anonymous yapping how things used to be better in the past, after an annoying day at work.

BlueInkAlchemist:

murphy7801:
Pretty pathetic that were that this gets published and doesn't really have a valid point just a opinion piece that doesn't really illustrate what happens in real life except that the writer is shit with pc's. This also could miss lead people from buying starcraft 2.

Sure. If they're morons.

Trying to say that Chuck's article is pathetic because it's "just an opinion piece" is like saying one of Yahtzee's videos is pathetic for the very same reason. All reviews are opinion pieces. We all have our opinions. One person's opinion shouldn't persuade or dissuade you from taking or not taking a particular course of action.

Rely on your own personal experience, opinions and common sense. While a review might enlighten you to something about a bit of media you were not aware of before reading it, or an opinion piece might inspire you to either write your own in agreement or in argument, what they shouldn't do is define your own perspective on the subject at hand.

My computer isn't that great. But I love PC gaming. I'd own StarCraft 2 if it weren't for the fact that I need to choose between games and warm meals. Chuck's article isn't going to make me club my PC like a baby seal. I respect his opinion, I laughed at his jokes and got his references. But he won't make me turn my back on PC gaming. Why? Because I already decided that I love it.

And while I'd continue that point to say "I'm not a moron," I also play World of Warcraft, so...

Yahtees pieces are comedy mostly and its a review what the hell was the point of this ?
Also I was being sarcastic about star craft no one needs to pay that over priced game.

At the possible expense of feeding a troll:

murphy7801:

Yahtees pieces are comedy mostly and its a review what the hell was the point of this ?

The point of this is that it's what's called "op-ed." It's an opinionated piece of journalism. It's something legitimate writers do for a living. Some will agree with the opinion of the writer. Some will not. The point is that it gets people talking.

Unless, of course, they refuse to engage the work on an intellectual level and just call it 'pathetic' because nobody was talking fast and there was no cute little animation to go along with it. Reading is hard!

murphy7801:

Also I was being sarcastic about star craft no one needs to pay that over priced game.

I'm sorry. Did you mean no one needs to pay for it? Or no one needs to play it? I'm unable to truly decipher your intent, here.

I really feel for what you say. I got a ps3 this year and if it were up to me I'd play that 100% of the time. Still, pc games Just too damn cheap and end up a better deal if you don't mind fiddling with the OS a bit.
For instance, Alien Vs Predator (PS3) is $80 in Argentina, while the Pc version DVD is only $25. Too much of a difference even without Steam getting into the argument.
Still, I treasure my Gaming PC a lot. I handpiked every single component, put it all together, installed all that was needed and it kicks @$$ these days. That kind of joy you cant get fro close pattforms, even if I'm a little over that stuff these days.
(Plus: I'm swiftly becoming a PS3 trophy whore, and you don't get it the same way on Steam PC)

Chuck Wendig:
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Man up and learn to troubleshoot. Don't read the manual - that way madness lies.

Seriously, simple hardware and OS troubleshooting Will identify if not fix your problem.

BlueInkAlchemist:
At the possible expense of feeding a troll:

murphy7801:

Yahtees pieces are comedy mostly and its a review what the hell was the point of this ?

The point of this is that it's what's called "op-ed." It's an opinionated piece of journalism. It's something legitimate writers do for a living. Some will agree with the opinion of the writer. Some will not. The point is that it gets people talking.

Unless, of course, they refuse to engage the work on an intellectual level and just call it 'pathetic' because nobody was talking fast and there was no cute little animation to go along with it. Reading is hard!

murphy7801:

Also I was being sarcastic about star craft no one needs to pay that over priced game.

I'm sorry. Did you mean no one needs to pay for it? Or no one needs to play it? I'm unable to truly decipher your intent, here.

Yes reading is hard when you are dyslexic secondly its not a constructive piece it does really go anywhere the structure is loose. Other thing about the piece is if some started a thread like this they would get put on probation or suspended which seems little hypocritical that this can come to pass. Lastly is there no comprasions that his friends game fine on the pc?. Ah and the price of starcraft in the uk is kinda expensive compared to other pc games.

/cast fire resistance aura

I think any PC Gamer is aware of these frustrations. The most common defenses I see are; "I've never had a problem" and "tweaking is a part of it, it makes it cool, you learn about computers which is applicable to the real world/employment". To the former, you are a liar. To latter; I want to play games, not be a desktop support specialist. Also, "I play PC games and keep my computer updated to that end" is not exactly icing on your resume. Maybe alongside "bachelor's of CS", but generally that will do on it's own.

That said; I built my own "Crysis box" as they were called at the time. For $1,900 (two year ago). It has a quad core Intel chip at 2.5ghz, 4gb of DDR3 RAM, a 10k rpm hard drive, and an NVIDIA GTX 280. It runs Crysis on full settings like it was minesweeper.

Strangely, due to some sort of bug, I couldn't beat the last boss with full settings. No joke, I had to run the bastard at 800x600 with all the settings at min for it to render a part of the boss that I needed to shoot. WTF?

Most other games don't have problems. Until my GTX 280 overheated due to a driver update (you know, those things we are supposed to do), which essentially turned the fan off. An RMA later, and Riva Tuner (a third party driver control software that I use to override the fan controls to max; as the official drivers/nvidia control console don't support fan control, which is default hard-locked at 35%), it works like a champ again. Also, 64-bit windows doesn't like Riva Tuner, so I have to "allow" it on startup every time. A part of the problem was that the nvidia console and other settings don't actually show core temp. Need third party for that as well.

However, with it all working again, boy do games look super pretty; especially with my 23" 1080p monitor.

Most of my PC problems have come with installing Adobe Video Production suites though. I swear the windows registry was the worst idea in the history of ever.

Yeah, I don't mind tweaking with it, but I can see how others don't have the time or interest. They just want it to work. I think it wouldn't be such a point of contention if tweaking was more of an "opt-in" feature instead of mandatory.

literaly a profesional troll.

if anyone put this up on a forum they'd get banned.

also, oblivion is a rather demanding game so presumably so is FO3 (i have oblivion for PC and FO3 for 360) and crysis is the epitomy of demands.

all i'm saying is look up system specs in future, i do this all the time, i'm sure lots of other people do too.

Shit, man. What the hell have you done to your residential computers to make them so damn terrible? And hey, if the Sims 3 expansion packs lag you, then you CAN NOT get away with saying you have above-average computer specs. You have old hardware, certainly old software, and it sounds like you've gone and screwed something up deeper than all of that. I understand that you'd get frustrated if this happened to you, but please, never generalize PCs as buggy and crashy. It just aint true.
Hell, anybody's PC crashes more than his 360 red-rings, it's waaaay past time for a replacement. I mean whoa.

Oh man... easily the funniest article of this week. It rings very true - a strong argument for those who don't want to fandangle a bunch of hardware and installs to get their gaming fix. I personally play both PC and console games, and can relate to all the pros and cons of both sides of the argument. I'm a fence-sitter, if you will. Steam Sales always nab me (in both mind and wallet) and the main reason I continue to play games on PC as well as console is because I have friends and communities on both sides of the world. I happen to have Left 4 Dead 2 for both PC and 360 because I have friends who either play on one or the other and I like to participate with everyone sometimes. Sure, it costs more that way - but *when* it works, I'm usually very satisfied that I put forth the extra time, effort and money.
To me (and this is why I quit this genre of game), MMOs are the worst for installs, patches, crashing and overall headache factors. It seems like every MMO on PC requires patches and punkbuster (or some equivalent) and for you to jump through a pentagram 666 times in order to just get to a log-in prompt.

Evil the White:
I'm gonna be honest; I only get stuff like this with old games, because I'm running on Windows 7. And it's a pain because they should work, but they don't. Just about everything released before 2008 has problems. So I have the reverse of your problem: my PC loves all the new shiney stuff, but can't stand the classics. I was so angry when I spent 5 on Beyong Good and Evil, just to find that it wouldn't work... well, I could have punched a baby seal, if there had been one there.

There's actually a easy workaround for that if you know someone with a XP computer install it on the XP computer, copy the program files install to your windows 7 machine and it works. If it works on Tie Fighter for Vista 64 then it'll work for you haha.

Jeziah:
Shit, man. What the hell have you done to your residential computers to make them so damn terrible? And hey, if the Sims 3 expansion packs lag you, then you CAN NOT get away with saying you have above-average computer specs. You have old hardware, certainly old software, and it sounds like you've gone and screwed something up deeper than all of that. I understand that you'd get frustrated if this happened to you, but please, never generalize PCs as buggy and crashy. It just aint true.
Hell, anybody's PC crashes more than his 360 red-rings, it's waaaay past time for a replacement. I mean whoa.

Computer's a year old. Maybe not even. Crysis, which as noted does work most of the time, rocks it at a very high resolution -- smoother than gooseshit on a glass window.

When I open Photoshop CS4, it's "blink-and-it's-ready."

System's not old, nor is it clunky.

Perhaps my PC is a rara avis in terms of PC games. Though it appears not.

-- Chuck

Chuck Wendig:

Thirty seconds into the brew-time on your coffee-maker the device instead sprays hot java on your balls, searing them to the corduroy. You don't like that? Not a fan?

I made the mistake of taking a large gulp of water whilst reading this. What little water not on my laptop screen is still lodged in my nose. and it huuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrtttttsssssssss.

Which reminds me - in the late nineties online communities were somewhat divided between two method of communication - IRC and early web based chats. Chats were simple as they can be, IRC had it's configs, command lines (different for every server network) and other inconviniances. We, the people of IRC used to believe that chatrooms were for idiots, because we, the pros, had to have some dose of knowledge. And boy, we were proud of that. Maybe that's the way to go with pc gaming? "I managed to start xxxx on my PC, behold!". I've seen that attitude in windows mobile communities just before iphone came in...

Khaiseri:

MaxPowers666:
Id have to look later im at work right now. But im still running XP since vista was fairly new and not standard on computers when I got mine. But it still runs wow so im happy with it and my laptop can run pretty much anything.

Mmm, you bought it already built, isn't that right?
That normally isn't such an issue, but I always recommend building up your own computer, as it lets you customize it with your price range and normally it's cheaper than buying an already built one. But still it's no slouch either.

I tend to build my own computers, specially because the last time I bought one already built, it was lacking the Graphic Card socket.

HP actually has one on the market like that :) A desktop with built in graphics and missing the pci-e slot. There is space for it on the MB though, so you can solder one on if you want. but still, talk about doing anything for profit. Its just a damn plastic slot :)

Steve Butts:
The real value of the PC platform in the gaming industry is its lack of restrictions compared to first-party console publishers.

Not to mention console makers and publishers would probably shit themselves if the PC modding communities moved over and started pulling things apart to see if they could change or add things.

cynik:
Maybe that's the way to go with pc gaming?

What, turn it into a smug, self-satisfied, elitist circle jerk? (more so than some people seem determined to already turn it into one)

That, sir, is the day I buy a console. A console with motion control.

I haven't read through all the comments, so don't shoot me if someone's already said this, but playing games on a pre-built PC is not the best way to go. Buying a computer from Dell is like paying Best Buy $50 to install your batteries. Yeah, it's easier for you, but it's an absolute rip-off.

I built a high-quality gaming (and LAN portable) PC 1 1/2 years ago and only spent about $1,000. I know it seems like a daunting task but here's my timeline: I spent 3 days doing the research on what parts to get. When the parts came, I spent one afternoon putting them together. The next afternoon, I installed my software. Then I was done.

A second note: if a game uses "Games For Windows Live", and you have an Xbox 360, don't buy it for the PC. GFWL just seems like a concentrated effort to make people hate playing games on their PC. I've been lucky as the two GFWL games I've played (GTAIV & Batman:AA) haven't had any problems on my PC. Or it may not be luck. It may be because, as I built the PC myself, I know exactly what it can and can't do. That's why I've never even attempted to play Crisis.

RhombusHatesYou:

cynik:
Maybe that's the way to go with pc gaming?

What, turn it into a smug, self-satisfied, elitist circle jerk? (more so than some people seem determined to already turn it into one)

That, sir, is the day I buy a console. A console with motion control.

Mate, I've been given that nickname for a reason, no worries, just a funny idea I had. Imagine dragonball styled circle jerks, PC elites, those above them would be super sayan (if I rememember the term correctly). Besides it doesn't have to be evil - on xda-developers forums people spend a lot of time trying to launch apps on devices that have never been intended to do so, for example windows 95 on a phone. And there be such glory when they succeed...

chuckwendig:

Jeziah:
Shit, man. What the hell have you done to your residential computers to make them so damn terrible? And hey, if the Sims 3 expansion packs lag you, then you CAN NOT get away with saying you have above-average computer specs. You have old hardware, certainly old software, and it sounds like you've gone and screwed something up deeper than all of that. I understand that you'd get frustrated if this happened to you, but please, never generalize PCs as buggy and crashy. It just aint true.
Hell, anybody's PC crashes more than his 360 red-rings, it's waaaay past time for a replacement. I mean whoa.

Computer's a year old. Maybe not even. Crysis, which as noted does work most of the time, rocks it at a very high resolution -- smoother than gooseshit on a glass window.

When I open Photoshop CS4, it's "blink-and-it's-ready."

System's not old, nor is it clunky.

Perhaps my PC is a rara avis in terms of PC games. Though it appears not.

-- Chuck

To put in more freindly terms than the poster above perhaps there is something systemic in your desktop/ laptop that makes running high level games a problem for them. If they are both dell then it might be a cooling issue. I've had them with my slightly older Del Dimensions and i know quite a few laptops take a shit and die in the cooling department when you attempt some serious 3D.

There is also the question of hardware. Not to make this into a tech thread but a specs/ model description could go a long way into getting to the root of your problem (it does sound like a problem, i know the artcile was spiced up for effect but this simply isn't normal) becuase i've played Crysis on 4 different PCs i have owned at one time or another and it's been stable as a rock.

The reason many PC gamers build their own systems is that you do get the best results with them. Everything is unser your control and therefore you are more familiar with the system if and when things crop up. Not to sound like a raving elitist but i wouldn't buy pre-built for gaming under any circumstances and i frankly wouldn't take a piss in a dell XPS. Cheap PSUs, insuficient cooling, BIOS and hardware lockouts and manufactuers software are unwelcome risks you take even with a top end dell and all can contruibute to lock-ups or crashes whilst gaming. To go back to my experiences with Dell i've had two faulty disk drives, cooling issues, a faulty motherboard, a broken IDE cable and at one point i had to clear the CMOS every time i wanted the bugger to post. I've ended up gutting the thing and adding in mostly my own hardware, only the processor, one of the drives and the case remain.

Software to can be a massive pain but it can be fixable. C-Cleaner, NTREGOPT, Defraggler and regular cleans and defrags are a necessary evil to keep a system working smoothly and at top capacity. Just like keeping a highly tuned car things can be on a knife edge (and as i described having a Dell does not help)

Yeah I agree 100%...

Sure I could read a manual everytime shit don't work. It might get it to work with a little bit of effort each time. But I don't have to do that with consoles. It runs smoothly everytime.

There is something really comforting about buying a game knowing it will work perfectly on your machine without worrying about minimum specs and numbers.

Scrumpmonkey:

chuckwendig:

Jeziah:
Shit, man. What the hell have you done to your residential computers to make them so damn terrible? And hey, if the Sims 3 expansion packs lag you, then you CAN NOT get away with saying you have above-average computer specs. You have old hardware, certainly old software, and it sounds like you've gone and screwed something up deeper than all of that. I understand that you'd get frustrated if this happened to you, but please, never generalize PCs as buggy and crashy. It just aint true.
Hell, anybody's PC crashes more than his 360 red-rings, it's waaaay past time for a replacement. I mean whoa.

Computer's a year old. Maybe not even. Crysis, which as noted does work most of the time, rocks it at a very high resolution -- smoother than gooseshit on a glass window.

When I open Photoshop CS4, it's "blink-and-it's-ready."

System's not old, nor is it clunky.

Perhaps my PC is a rara avis in terms of PC games. Though it appears not.

-- Chuck

To put in more freindly terms than the poster above perhaps there is something systemic in your desktop/ laptop that makes running high level games a problem for them. If they are both dell then it might be a cooling issue. I've had them with my slightly older Del Dimensions and i know quite a few laptops take a shit and die in the cooling department when you attempt some serious 3D.

There is also the question of hardware. Not to make this into a tech thread but a specs/ model description could go a long way into getting to the root of your problem (it does sound like a problem, i know the artcile was spiced up for effect but this simply isn't normal) becuase i've played Crysis on 4 different PCs i have owned at one time or another and it's been stable as a rock.

The reason many PC gamers build their own systems is that you do get the best results with them. Everything is unser your control and therefore you are more familiar with the system if and when things crop up. Not to sound like a raving elitist but i wouldn't buy pre-built for gaming under any circumstances and i frankly wouldn't take a piss in a dell XPS. Cheap PSUs, insuficient cooling, BIOS and hardware lockouts and manufactuers software are unwelcome risks you take even with a top end dell and all can contruibute to lock-ups or crashes whilst gaming. To go back to my experiences with Dell i've had two faulty disk drives, cooling issues, a faulty motherboard, a broken IDE cable and at one point i had to clear the CMOS every time i wanted the bugger to post. I've ended up gutting the thing and adding in mostly my own hardware, only the processor, one of the drives and the case remain.

Software to can be a massive pain but it can be fixable. C-Cleaner, NTREGOPT, Defraggler and regular cleans and defrags are a necessary evil to keep a system working smoothly and at top capacity. Just like keeping a highly tuned car things can be on a knife edge (and as i described having a Dell does not help)

Honestly I would piss in it, just to short the fucker out and bury it in a shallow grave. After having a Dell for nearly a decade I have grown to hate their computers. HP at least redeemed themselves by having a bitchin laptop for fairly cheap.

Spacefly:
Yeah I agree 100%...

Sure I could read a manual everytime shit don't work. It might get it to work with a little bit of effort each time. But I don't have to do that with consoles. It runs smoothly everytime.

There is something really comforting about buying a game knowing it will work perfectly on your machine without worrying about minimum specs and numbers.

I get that, I really do. Comfort is nice. But there's a sense of personal achievement when you manage to get a game to work with your current set-up. Everyone has their own personal tastes, and that's why there are so many different platforms. Wii, 360, PS3, DS, PSP, PC, and even iPhone. They are all a part of what we call Gamers.

Ok, I know that sounds really corny, but I'm trying to make it clear that I have no fanboyism, and even though I call myself a PC gamer, I still like and play on Consoles. I just prefer using my fingers to my thumbs over a long period of time.

I must say, I adore PC gaming. The moment that I got my gaming laptop I was converted forever. I haven't been on my PS3 for... Gods, it must be months.

Although that same computer came to mind while reading this. I have a M17x from Alienware, which is a fantastic laptop that is everything that I could ever want and more... except that at entirely random times the computer will hit a lag spike and freeze for 4-5 mins. It could be sitting on the desktop, I could be word processing, I could be gaming, the context doesn't matter. It just stops. Dammit, this is supposed to WORK!

I'm sorry you're missing out on the only form of vidya gaming that matters.

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