Smile and Nod: RealID and Why Hate Speech is the Least of Our Worries

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Yes we know you have nothing to fear Mr. Pitts, we have seen you training your troops for war in your nerf video. You have a private army, most of us don't.

I do think real id takes away from the online experiance, trolls will be trolls no matter what, so why can't I be allowed to adopt my onliner personality? I don't play a game to be me, I play to be who I want to be. That person may be good or he could be eating people. That person may help the group or she may go lone wolf.

Real ID hurts my ability to become a new person, plus it makes it even easier for the crazies to get to me.

Wow. Maybe I haven't been reading Russ right for all this time. It feels like he just told any censor there might have been to go away and come back in a couple hours with a sandwich for himself. Not saying it in an explicit bad way. Just kind saying in.

OT:
I am curious on what they COULD have done instead of this, as many people have suggested..

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Answer me this: How will Real ID stop trolls? Nobody ever supplies a good answer to this.

How will revealing their real names stop them? Trolls are going to troll whether you know their name or not.

I don't buy any reasons such as 'It will help people become more social!' either. How will it? If anything it makes me want to be less social, since I'm always less inclined to say what's on my mind if I don't have some kind of anonymity.

Usagi Vindaloo:
For one thing, the big issue with RealID is not this. It's the fact that it will encourage MORE hate speech and horrible behaviour. At the moment, when I post, I'm Elfin McPallyface, prot paladin, and as such my opinions and thoughts on paladins, tanking, etc have merit. With RealID, I would be GIRL MCGIRLGIRL and any attempt at rational dialogue would be met with SHOW US YOUR TITS and R U HOT?

I have lost count of how many I have heard this in the RealID discussion. The problem is that it's utter BS.

Ok, we get it. You're a girl. On the internet. (You know, not that uncommon nowadays). And you play WoW (not that common, but I can't remember any of the guilds I've been in the years I played WoW that failed to have some women in it). Not every place in the internet is 4chan. I've been in countless forums over the years, and it's quite rare that people would treat every girl like this ("SHOW US UR TITS"). Hell, considering it isn't all so rare to find women playing wow, why would trolls do this with everyone of them that appeared in the forums? It would get old quickly and they would go do something else.

As with a lot of the anti-RealID reactions, this one is completely overblown, and I say that as someone who was against the institution of RealID in the forums.

Mantonio:
Answer me this: How will Real ID stop trolls? Nobody ever supplies a good answer to this.

How will revealing their real names stop them? Trolls are going to troll whether you know their name or not.

I don't buy any reasons such as 'It will help people become more social!' either. How will it? If anything it makes me want to be less social, since I'm always less inclined to say what's on my mind if I don't have some kind of anonymity.

The idea was not to stop trolling completely, but to curb it. Removing anonymity removes one of the main incentives for trolling, which is to engage in antisocial behavior without any fear of punishment or peer-pressure.

Yes, no one knows if it would reduce trolling to a minimum or not at all. My guess is that it would reduce trolling significantly, but not completely. People are much more weary of behaving as oblivious jerks and assholes when this kind of behavior would be attached to their real names.

Again, I was against RealID on the forums. But saying that there's no correlation between anonymity and trollish behavior is a bit too much. I've been in online communities that enforced real identities, and the level of discussion was kept high with little moderation effort.

Wait, so Blizzard forums don't have a report button? What sort of jacked-up shoddy forum is that?

Mantonio:

Answer me this: How will Real ID stop trolls? Nobody ever supplies a good answer to this.

How will revealing their real names stop them? Trolls are going to troll whether you know their name or not.

I don't buy any reasons such as 'It will help people become more social!' either. How will it? If anything it makes me want to be less social, since I'm always less inclined to say what's on my mind if I don't have some kind of anonymity.

Addendum: this is kinda like saying "why bother with this police thing? people will still commit crimes, police or not."

Well yes, people still commit crimes. But try to imagine what would happen if societies didn't have a police force to punish people who engage in anti-social behavior in real life.

If you say "but instituting real names wouldn't punish trolls", indeed it wouldn't punish anyone directly. But as I said in the other post, is about peer-pressure, and people not liking to "dirty" their image by being jerks. Some people will still be jerks regardless, but many that would troll in anonymity would not do the same when his real name is attached to it.

JaredXE:
I think it was a great idea. I personally want to remove some of the cover that assholes use to hide themselves from the idiotic and hate-filled messages they spew. Remove the anonymity from the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

I think too many people see the GIFW as fact. I think Yahtzee's own version of the theory is far more accurate, in that person = fuckwad. Removing anonymity isn't going to change that.

Jandau:
I live in the corner of the world where by and large gaming is looked down upon and gamers are steretyped to the extreme. I do not feel the need to broadcast my gaming habits to prospective employers and people I meet. It's not a matter of shame, it's a matter of not wanting other people's crap on my doorstep. I don't have a problem with gaming, they do. So please, keep your generalizations to yourself, they apply far less than you might like to think.

Not sure about the last point, I don't think that was what Russ was saying exactly; but I think Jandau nails my reaction. I work in an office full of geeks like myself, but there are many things about my life that I wouldn't want put on display to all and sundry, and not because they're illegal or tawdry.

I've always held that who I am on the internet and who I am in "real life" are two completely seperate, sovereign entities. Thus, my identity on the internet and my identity in meatspace (I love that word) should have no connection. I simply use Catalyst as my name for everything that I do on the social part of the internet, so people that know me can identify me. Thus, I have two names, and the internet at large only needs to know one of them.

I'm also an aspiring "Nine-to-fiver", something that I'll be sinking a LOT of money and time into a university for, so I don't want to compromise that by letting my employer know how I spend my free time.

Also, as others have said before, there will always be hate speech. Some people just don't care. But we have methods for dealing with them, from banning them to simply ignoring them. The internet is like a giant government, it checks itself.

BlindTom:
I have many friends whose identities are unknown to me. We don't know each others full names because it is unnecessary. Our personas might differ when we are freed from previous social constraints but the overall effect is that we are in fact more honest with one another. The lack of ulterior motives to our opinions guarantees that we are expressing what we genuinely believe. Rather than what we know will butter the other person up.

The problems Russ is highlighting are also related deeply to the perception of an audience, context collapse and throwaway identities. If you use a fairly consistent handle online then eventually it will essentially become your second name. You will feel ashamed if you sully your good name, even if it's not the one your parents gave you.

Right on the money. Granted this is referring to people who actually feel shame at all.

Usagi Vindaloo:
An interesting article, but I have to say I disagree with most of it.

For one thing, the big issue with RealID is not this. It's the fact that it will encourage MORE hate speech and horrible behaviour. At the moment, when I post, I'm Elfin McPallyface, prot paladin, and as such my opinions and thoughts on paladins, tanking, etc have merit. With RealID, I would be GIRL MCGIRLGIRL and any attempt at rational dialogue would be met with SHOW US YOUR TITS and R U HOT?

What about people with obviously foreign names? Is it right to make people like Luis Fernando or Hamid el Shaddir endure racist slurs and yells to GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY YOU (insert insults here)?

Transexuals would also be on the chopping block for harassment if their account names were under their old "biological" names (or if they hadn't transitioned yet). Do you think trolls are going to leave someone who identifies as a woman but goes by the name of Steve alone?

Secondly, I find it interesting that you envision the emphasis on dividing real life and virtual life as trying to prevent the "failures" of real life tainting the perfect virtual world. In my opinion, the truth is vastly the opposite; it is that people are trying to prevent *virtual life* from flowing into their real life. As many great strides as we've made, geekdom is still seen negatively by a lot of mainstream people... and some of those mainstream people are in positions of power. I do NOT want a prospective employer to reject me solely based on the fact I play WoW and take the time to post my thoughts and feelings in the forums. As far as I'm concerned, my geek life is no one's business but my own, hence why I keep it out of my Facebook, LinkedIn, etc (or, at the very least, downplay it - I do have some reference to it as I am hoping to get into the video game industry, but I still keep it moderate and vague so as not to scare away other employers). With RealID linking our online geek identities with our real life names, we'd have to deal with a whole bunch of RL annoyance and possibly lost jobs and relationships. And yes, people who judge us based on our hobbies aren't really worth dealing with, but I imagine an unemployed person desperate for work would feel differently when an employer rejects him for a job because Google turned up his theorycraft for rogue DPS.

Also, PLEASE tell me I'm not the only one who noticed the irony of the writer decrying hate speech and general dickishness on the Internet, then writing the following:

"a company that's created an empire off the sweat and tears of a very active and vocal community of obsessives who crave the shadows of online anonymity *****the way fat girls crave cake.****"

Okay, it may not be hate speech, but it's still a pretty offensive stereotype and sounds uncomfortably like the sort of thing Russ hates. Please tell me this was a bit of intentional sarcasm? :(

So.. are you hot?
Sorry, couldn't resist joining the stereotype for a second. Y'know.

You have many valid points. But I have to wonder what narrow-minded country you live in where employers judge you on whether or not you play video games in your free time or not. Maybe I'm being naive, but I really can't grasp it.

And you're not the only one that noticed the irony you described. And it annoyed me a bit. I'm not a girl, so why would it annoy me?

Either Russ Pitts, Editor-in-chief was hoping to prove some obscure point with this, or Russ Pitts Editor-in-chief was trying to be funny in his article, and kinda failed. Well in my opinion anyway. I hope it was the first option.

If not, Russ Pits screwed up, and pissed in his own pool.

RealID would have been an excellent idea. I mean, if it wasn't on the internet. The anonymity is a double-edged sword I'm afraid.

It protects the retards whilst they spew their bile, but it also protects those of us that just want to have a good time and relax after work in the world of video gaming from the people that can do a lot of damage with just your real name, and who don't care if what they subject you to harms you as long as it's funny.

Apathy, ladies and gentlemen. "As long as it doesn't concern/affect me, I won't be concerned with it." People don't give a crap if some bloke or girl half a world away gets harassed online, as long as it's not one of their friends, or loved ones.

The truth is that us "normal folk", as Russ Pitts so eloquently(snort) phrased it, need the general anonymity to protect us from the apathetic arseholes who are just looking for a good malicious laugh. Anonymity should stay optional. But common sense should be mandatory when dealing with the internet.

This is my 2 cents anyway. I'm not sure myself if I made any sense. It all sounded quite profound in my head.

You forgot the people who don't want their guild to find out that GamreGurlLol the healer is actually played by a guy.

Did anybody really think that RealID would make a difference? People are still dicks regardless of whether or not there name is up there.

JaredXE:
Like Russ, I don't have a vested interest in RealID, but I do have an opinion on it.

I think it was a great idea. I personally want to remove some of the cover that assholes use to hide themselves from the idiotic and hate-filled messages they spew. Remove the anonymity from the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. Kids don't have to worry since it would be posting the name off of the credit card attached to the subscription, so it'd be their parent's name. As well, it's rather easy to not have your full real name posted if you think about it.

What's the big problem? It engenders a much more polite society since you can be held accountable for your behavior. Why is that a bad thing? I get the idea that most of the people who are objecting to RealID are people who are acting questionably and are simply trying to preserve themselves.

Why should I have to lose because other people are assholes?
Its the same reason I'm against full-body scanners in the airport and DRM.

Great article! It pretty much put words to my feelings on the subject without having to write it down myself! :P Always the read of the week for me.

SL33TBL1ND:
Did anybody really think that RealID would make a difference? People are still dicks regardless of whether or not there name is up there.

Actiblizzard corporate fuckwads did. We all know how well old stuffy dudes in suits understand anything about anything, though.

In short: Some high-level exec said "Hey that myface, bookspace, what's it called, that's pretty popular right? I keep hearing the kids talking about it*. We should be like that."
And, when it was pointed out how dumb of an idea that is, the person pointing it out was fired or transferred to the department that's used as a place to ice people until they can be fired. From that point forward it was all good words about The Plan, full speed ahead.

There is absolutely no reason, at all, whatsoever, that RealID couldn't work just like Steam's community -- you have a unique number and ID associated with that number, which may or may not be the same as the name you go by in each individual game, but it's still a unique identifier across all games. And if you cause trouble, it's tied to that unique ID.

Oh, except Actiblizz did say how easy it would make it to find people you know IRL to play games with them.
Really? Really Blizz? I'm that fucking socially awkward I can't talk to my friends and find out if they're playing Latest Game? Maybe I don't really want to play with Obnoxious Co-Worker! And now I've got Uppity Boss trying to pal up to me in WoW, trying to prove he's not an ass, but the problem is he plays an awful rogue and my guildmates informed him of such -- at length -- and now I'm going to catch hell for it tomorrow at work. All thanks to RealID.

Such a bad idea. Just.. just all around. A bad idea. Meh, Actiblizz jumped the shark. So long, company I once gave a shit about.

Whatever happened to just not feeding the troll? Trolls want attention, you don't pay attention to them, they will seek attention elsewhere.

Or even tighten up the banhammer, for crying out loud. If its as bad as everyone says it is, then its probably due to moderators allowing a bunch of brats run unchecked.

I mean, am I wrong in this? Isn't making everyone's names public like replacing the walls in your home with glass in response to a rat problem? Sure you can see the lil bastards scurrying around (just like your neighbors can see you eating TV dinners in your underware), but....now what? Still got rats there, bud.

Anacortian:
I do not think "pity" means what you think it means. Pity is a compassionate reaction to an others misfortune. There simply is not room for hate and pity. If you must hate, then you cannot pity. If you must hate, you can also scorn, deride, insult, detest, belittle, or all the other things you (whether rightly or wrongly) do in your column; but you cannot pity.

I disagree, completely. And, at the risk of sounding REALLY nerdy I'm gonna quote a line from one of the Harry Potter movies: "Just because you have the emotional range of a teaspoon."

I believe, whole-heartedly, that you can hate someone with the burning fires of the hell itself but still feel sorry for them for not having the a broad enough mind to realize the error and utter futility of their ways.

On another note: I've played WoW since the beta but I'm still more of a casual player. When I heard about the RealID thing I was a little bit upset, but this is only because I occasionally enjoy a good roleplaying experience online and I usually play female characters. Now, for anyone who doesn't know, this is a sort of difficult thing for men to do without being immediately ousted as gay. Ironically, in real life, I'm happily married to a wonderful woman who also plays WoW online and also loves to roleplay... online. She plays male characters and TELLS people she's actually female and nobody has a problem with it whatsoever. To sum up, this is my only reason for disliking the RealID thing but, in the end, it hardly matters because nobody roleplays anymore anyway. They just wanna rack up an epic gear score as fast as possible so they can kick perfectly viable tanks like me out of raids for only having a GS of 3800. X_X

Ok, heres a thought or two;

RealID only applies to their forums yeah? So what if your guild has its own private webpage and forums? Your real identity is still safe. Would RealID translate in to the game itself, would your female Night Elf Heal spec priest named LadyElf McHealer suddenly be changed to John Smith? Having your Global name as your real name would have the problem of "Just which of the 1 million John Smiths' are you?".

It seems it would only apply to Blizzard's Forums, and since most people avoid the forums anyway you have to ask yourself
"Does something like this really affect me?"

Mantonio:
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Answer me this: How will Real ID stop trolls? Nobody ever supplies a good answer to this.

How will revealing their real names stop them? Trolls are going to troll whether you know their name or not.

I don't buy any reasons such as 'It will help people become more social!' either. How will it? If anything it makes me want to be less social, since I'm always less inclined to say what's on my mind if I don't have some kind of anonymity.

This, another thing I don't see brought up much is that there were going to be other changes on the forums to coincide with revealing peoples names. Publicly linking all of the characters on one account(no more flaming on a lvl 1 alt) and adding a rep system to posts. These two things on their own would have done a lot to help clean the forums up.

As the picture points out there's no real reason that forcing real names onto people would actually change anything and there are also a lot of holes in the system. What about someone named "John Smith", what does he have to about if his name is being put out there if he has one of the most common names in the country?

Personally when I started playing WoW I was a minor without a credit card and as such the billing name attached the my account was my mothers, that could mean different things to different people but to me, if I had to post under my parents name I wouldn't post at all. And I like being able to help out people with questions and constructively add the conversations so I don't think I'm the kind of forum goer you were want to drive off from the forums.

'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin.

Well said Russ! We have a long way to go until people don't have to worry about being judged on what they do. I can respect those who want to remain anonymous because the real life people they deal with can be dillholes about such things, and I hope that such a thing does dwindle after time.

Am I weird or do I just not see his article as the personal attack everyone else seems to believe it is?

I'm sorry, but Russ Pitts has by in large, committed a fallacy with his article. the core notion here is that he believes the REASON behind people not wanting RealID is because we somehow want to protect our anon ways of life. (which, according to him, is nothing but a manifestation of our most sociopathic and selfish tendencies) But the truth is, it's not that simple. But rather, it's assymetrical submission of information.

That is, in order to play this game, I need to disclose exactly who I am, which, thanks to the vast amount of info that is out there in the cyberworld, makes tracking me down incredibly easy. This makes me, as an individual, vulnerable. I am not worried about people seeing my name and associating my name to my opinion. That much is fine. They are my opinions and if I'm willing to put it out there, I generally will stand by those opinions, real name or not.

But that is not my concern. My concern is for my safety against malicious intent. This is the same reason why my father, an immigrant to the US back in the 70s, chose to take his name out of the phone book. He came to the US perfectly legally, worked 2 jobs to pay his bills, and attend night school where he eventually earned 2 masters, an MBA, and became one of the most hardworking individuals I have ever seen. He would also eventually naturalize and become a legal citizen of US. And the man has not a single mean bone in his body. He, for all intensive purposes, has nothing to hide and would never be ashamed of who he is.

Ask him to expose his info to the world, however, and he would have pause. Why? Back in the 70s and 80s, anti-Asian-American sentiments were still very much in existence. And after Vincent Chin's murder in 1982 (which happened in Detroit, where my father was living at the time), and a series of threatening phone calls to my father and his family, my father decided that he no longer wanted to be easily found by the public. (or rather, by the disgruntled bigot who would seek to do him and his family harm simply because he was an immigrant.)

In effect, he wanted to become an anon in society, known to only those who he felt safe to do so.

Sure, it's not exactly the internet, but the principle here is the same.

"I reserve my pity for those loveless, senseless blights on the soul of mankind. My pity and my hate."

Funny how bile brings out the poet.

Anyway I agree. While many people don't have a problem with using their real names on the internet in any kind of forum some people do. We have no right to call out these people. It may not seem it but it is similar to making people wear stars on their clothes if they are of a specific faith (yeah I went there) or maybe more correctly making people register as, say homosexual. In the latter case there is a good chance that a lot of homosexuals will not have a problem with it but a lot will because of the social stigma of it.

And as for the social aspect. Some people need anonymity to feel comfortable in social situations. For many people, maybe even most, social interaction is easy and while it might be uncomfortable some times it is nothing to fear. To some however it is terrifying. The very thought of speaking to someone new binds the gut in knots. The pulse starts to race and it becomes harder to breath. While it may turn out that there was nothing to fear doesn't make the fear any less real. For these people anonymity is a gods sent. It becomes easier to interact and even be decisive. It often turns out that these people do very well in social interaction when they can get the veil of anonymity. They are funny, engaging and supportive. Who are we to steal that away?

As for love and friendship found over the net. Love and even friendship is hard to find even in the real world. Again some people have it easy but some don't. Some people have lots of friends, others have only a few and still others have none. I am not talking just someone you added to your friends-list but real friends. These are rare and I endorse any contact that lets you develop them. Same goes for love. A teacher of mine once said something clever: "The One does not exist. She becomes it." Love takes work and courage. If a screen and 200 miles gives you that courage then more power to you. At least you found a way. Others are not so lucky.

Russ, please do not use the terms "tranny" or "trannies" in the future- it's almost only ever used to belittle and insult trans people and it was a bit jarring to come across it this morning.

Thanks!
Alex

-Drifter-:
I think too many people see the GIFW as fact. I think Yahtzee's own version of the theory is far more accurate, in that person = fuckwad. Removing anonymity isn't going to change that.

This... think about how many people are assholes in real life (anyone remember high school?) and then ask yourselves if being anonymous is REALLY the key to all this. Not only that, but most "trolls" are actually people who are belligerently opinionated.

Russ, however, does not seem to think highly of gamers. Does he really believe we all game to hide from our shame and failure?

Edit:

captain_magpie:
Russ, please do not use the terms "tranny" or "trannies" in the future- it's almost only ever used to belittle and insult trans people and it was a bit jarring to come across it this morning.

Yeah, also his use of the phrase "the way fat girls crave cake". Shouldn't that be "fat people"? Or, really, should he be digging at fat people at all? This article has not left me with a good impression of Mr. Pitts.

CitySquirrel:
This article has not left me with a good impression of Mr. Pitts.

Yeah, me too. This is the first article of Russ Pitts that I've read. (or maybe just the first where I noted the name of the author) And quite frankly, I find the tone to be a little offensive and mildly condescending. It's not a good combination for someone in the position of editor-and-chief.

Y'know, I kinda agree on some parts of what you say, but of course, you just had to pull my strings didn't you?

Russ Pitts:
..Famous people and closet trannies everywhere..

What did you hope to achive with this?
Flame War?
I can give you one if that's what you need.

But hey! You like being educated so here's a free lesson, on the house!

TRANNIES is an offensive term refering to Transvestites but sometimes targeted at Transexuals.
Infact, it's USUALLY targeted at Transexuals because people aren't educated on the matter.

The problem isn't the real name. I can be an ASSHOLE and still use my real name. I don't have to hide to be that, but my real name isn't whom I am at all. There would be a difference if my real name would be one that were me and not the birthed one but it isn't, and I would still be opposed over this idea.

By the end of the day, this is what's true;
Taking away people's anononimty won't change whom they are.
Assholes are assholes. Deal with it.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things." - Henry David Thoreau

I think that a good mission for a games company is to make games that let people forget about their work, or whatever, if they want to. It is right to look at games from that perspective and occasionally think of things like achievements and gamer cards as a bad thing. If you, for example, feel the need to share your id with people at work and compete with them in your free time. That's before we go into social networking games or whatever.

Well, really, the only thing this article has proven is that knowing a troll's real names won't do squat to stop them trolling, eh, Russ?

Closet trannies? Really? Way to be a welcoming environment, Escapist. Us trans people really love to be talked to like that. It's not at all dehumanising or anything like that. However, I did notice a lack of racist derogatory remarks. Maybe you should work on it for your next article, because I imagine people are feeling left out now.

Other than unmasking trolls which would be funny, It sounds overall like a bad idea that could lead to violence and internet crime increases.

That was more vitriol and pretentiousness than I was expecting. It was a valiant effort, but you are not Yahtzee, trying to steal his thunder won't end well for anyone.

I think real ID is a terrible thing for two reasons.

Reason one: I am a woman that plays WOW. I like to keep this to myself, for the simple reason that some creeps in the game will start stalking you and bothering you. I can handle them with ease thanks to Blizzard. Even worse though is when they will try to give you stuff for free and "help" you all the time. No gentlemen, I am perfectly capable of fighting of this level 58 monster by myself, thank you. And no, I'm not afraid I'll break a nail.
Trust me, I do nothing to start this behavior other than announcing I am a girl. Thankfully most guys really don't care whether I am male or female, it really makes no difference to them. But there are a minority of creeps and "helpful" types out there. Avoiding them is very important to me because they ruin my fun. The stalking speaks for itself , it's annoying but also easy to stop. I just report it to blizzard and it stops (I've had to do that twice so far and I had to help one friend do this for herself). The helpful stuff is worse. You can't report to blizzard that "This guy keeps offering to help me and gives me stuff". I guess that's why I find that way more annoying than the stalking in-game. Off course I tell them I don't want help and in most cases that stops it (after a lot of explaining why not). Sometimes there are guys, who still need to show you how gallant they are, who do continue. Getting rid of them requires me to be rude which is something I don't enjoy doing. All of this together has made me more likely to choose male characters in game then female ones.

Reason two: In response to mainly the first part of your article. Anonymity is very important to public discourse. It's all about freedom of speech and the things that come out of that. If we are ready to give up our anonymity on the Internet many of the amazing things that come out of that will be lost. Not just LOLCATS but also countless blogs by people who left Islam, people reporting on human rights violations and WikiLeaks. Unfortunately the flip side is rude forum trolls. But if that is the price to pay for freedom of speech then i gladly accept it. As Voltaire said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". An anonymous person can say all the things that are not socially acceptable, including the ones that have to be said. Anonymous people have had a great impact on many of the freedoms we take for granted today. For instance writers that used pseudonymous are largely responsible for the awareness in the public about the horrors that black slaves everywhere faced daily. And off course the ending of colonialism in the west (just Google Multatuli). Freedom of speech has always included anonymity as an integral part and you can't just say it should disappear, even in WOW, without seriously considering the consequences. If WOW can have real ID then how long will it be until more forums require it. If anonymity on the Internet disappears a lot of opinions will be lost. Especially the ones you don't agree with and those are the truly important ones. Because how are your ideas ever going to be challenged, if you only ever hear things you agree with?

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