Should Facebook Be Worried?

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maddawg IAJI:

Vestsao:
Google can't beat Facebook with this generation.

If everyone has already established themselves on Facebook and they have all their friends together and all their photos why would they go go through the trouble of reestablishing all that all over again on an entirely new system which many of their friends may not even be a part of.

A couple years before Facebook, people used Myspace. You'd find it funny how quickly people will switch given to whatever the current trend is.

but i think myspace wasn't as popular as facebook? it was popular, but it seems like everyone and their grandmother (well, maybe not their grandmothers) have an account on facebook, which can't be said of myspace (in my experience).

Very interesting. Although Facebook has the money to do almost anything they want, it's been estimated that Facebook is worth more than all the money in circulation.

I just said all, and all means all.

There's nothing like making your company grow by exploiting and selling out your customers. Good job Zyanga. Burn in Hell.

Social gaming can fuck right off.

google is growing into a evil empire, but they are not quite patient enough is their major failing, they feel they need to rush things out see their phone venture that looked great on paper but had way too many issues to compete with its rival.

me i wish all these social network sites went bye, just too much bs that goes on from the heads that run them to the people that use them. google is no saint in the user privacy area but there are worse offenders out there.

suppose i will be rooting for google a tad just to take fb down several notches tho i will never ever use googles social site since i never used myspace, facebook, or twitter ever.

This all assumes that Google's gaming platform will succeed: which is no guarentee. Remember Buzz?

I don't think Google will do much. Why do I say that? Even though I am sure Google will get the standard applications like farmville and other awful boring excuses for games too, but for the facebook community to go to Google well, THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR FARMS AND HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. Oh noes, that would be awful.

On top of that, if a few friends didn't go to the Google social site, it would be much harder to show them just how good you are at farmville, and even harder to spam them annoying requests to water their plants!

All in all, Facebook will crush Google's site, why? Even if Google creates some cool innovations and such, it would take a lot to pull people over.

I keep imagining the forces of Google lined up in roman chariots and warhorses on one side, and the forces of Facebook as crusader knights!

SnootyEnglishman:
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The plan is working. Soon every popular internet website will destroy one another (except for the Escapist of course) and Snooty Enterprises Inc reigns supreme over the Info Superhighway.
/nonsensical rambling.

And Newgrounds and Behemoth. :D

Also, GO GOOGLE!

Triple by 2012?!?! Holy SHIT!! This is what the Mayans were talking about! Social gaming will bring about the prophesied downfall of the world!!!

I'm not thrilled. I'm not particularly fond of the whole social networking concept, so I don't really want to see it become bigger and better. And it will have to be either that, or Google failing at this (which seems more likely to me, but I kind of like Google; see rest of post). I think it's really hard to compete in the social area of the market, because there generally isn't really an easy way for people to switch (if I think Chrome is a good browser, I can just switch, but if I think Googlebook is better than Facebook, I need my friends to switch as well).

I think Google needs to make switching as easy as possible, possibly by aggregating information from Facebook if that's possible. A killer app might also work, but I doubt it will be social games. First of all, those probably also require that your friends switch and second of all, I think that most people use the sites because of the social networking aspect and the games are only useful for prolonging their stay.

Then again, it's not like Google has never taken over a market before.

Shapsters:

maddawg IAJI:

Vestsao:
Google can't beat Facebook with this generation.

If everyone has already established themselves on Facebook and they have all their friends together and all their photos why would they go go through the trouble of reestablishing all that all over again on an entirely new system which many of their friends may not even be a part of.

A couple years before Facebook, people used Myspace. You'd find it funny how quickly people will switch given to whatever the current trend is.

Was MySpace ever as popular as Faebook is? (I honestly don't know)

As long as the new Google site has PROPERLY WORKING CHAT I am on board *grumbles* Don't see why its so hard for Facebook to make a chat system that actually works.

Google already has their own chat software (Google Talk) that also works in GMail. I don't use it, so I don't know if it fits your idea of "working properly".

Locko96:
Google just fails at every thing they try to do to compete with others on a developed market.

Search engines existed before Google did. E-mail existed long before GMail did. Route planners existed before Google Maps came along. Just before the iPhone 4 came out, Android had become the most sold mobile OS.

Niccolo:
"History has shown that... Google dominates them"

Question: Google is now the biggest search engine, yes. Where else are they big? I certainly know it isn't for Chrome; that thing has less of a share than firefox.

Google obviously has search, Android, Maps and GMail. They also bought the biggest video site YouTube, and I'm thinking that AdSense is probably the biggest advertising platform(?) in the world and Translate the most used translation service. They also have some really nice resources for (web) developers (Google Code, Analytics, Charts, Gadgets). Furthermore, I think products like Chrome, Calendar/Agenda, Reader and Docs are also fairly succesful (although probably not market leaders).

They have a lot of products. Many of which are at least somewhat succesful, some of which are not. It seems that lately they haven't really been on a good streak...

ShadowKatt:
Google needs to watch their step. All the money in the world can't save them when the US Government decides that they want it.

You really overestimate the power of the state. The fact is that they won't dare take Google head on in any significant way. The US government can't just arbitrarily take money from a given company, the consequences would be too dire.

If the state can shut down a profitable company for being successful then they will soon find a massive lack of investment through fear of unpredictable government decisions. multinational companies will simply remove themselves from the US if it loses it competitive edge; low taxes, stable economy and a stable legal framework.

Nightmare scenario - They team up.

lol over reacting no? these 2 site serve totally different purposes. y is google gunning for them?

Oh great so that means the friendless moaners will have another social network site to complain about *yawn*

a decent article on the escapist! who would have thought?

although i am sort of iffy about how wise it would be of google to show their business strategy to the world. who knows how many copycats will enter the race?

Death to Facebook!

I know I've already canceled my FB account. My significant other, and her siblings have as well. And you know what? We haven't missed it one bit. Sure, sharing pictures was fun, but guess what? we can do that in person just as easily.

I personally trust Google more than Zuckerberg, and would definitely give their social-media-platform a spin. But, FB also taught me not to trust these kinds of sites ( putting up likes/dislikes for example) with anything more than my name and email address so data mining will be a little more difficult in the future I think (hope?).

Bleh...social networking.

I don't care about facebook nor their fate should google try to knock them down a few pegs.
Just remember this, no one thought Apple could be topped when they whipped out the Iphone but along came Android.

Jordi:

Google obviously has search, Android, Maps and GMail. They also bought the biggest video site YouTube, and I'm thinking that AdSense is probably the biggest advertising platform(?) in the world and Translate the most used translation service. They also have some really nice resources for (web) developers (Google Code, Analytics, Charts, Gadgets). Furthermore, I think products like Chrome, Calendar/Agenda, Reader and Docs are also fairly succesful (although probably not market leaders).

They have a lot of products. Many of which are at least somewhat succesful, some of which are not. It seems that lately they haven't really been on a good streak...

Snippage occurred.

Chrome's successful, but it didn't dominate... I think it's only at 10 or 20 percent. More than Safari, but that's 'cause Safari is less user friendly than a homemade explosive.

You know, this is sad... I use Gmail and I forgot all about it. Well done Nick. And I did forget about the Android... though actually I thought that it wasn't a rousing success. I recall reading about a few issues. Hmm.

xD I guess I just don't use enough google stuff to realise how big it is. I should have guessed from the utter domination of the IT share market, though.

SnootyEnglishman:
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The plan is working. Soon every popular internet website will destroy one another (except for the Escapist of course) and Snooty Enterprises Inc reigns supreme over the Info Superhighway.
/nonsensical rambling.

the 4chan barbarians will rape facebooks wife and daughter!
i hope its better than facebook because face book is just stupid for reasons i cant be bothered to explain.

imnotparanoid:

SnootyEnglishman:
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The plan is working. Soon every popular internet website will destroy one another (except for the Escapist of course) and Snooty Enterprises Inc reigns supreme over the Info Superhighway.
/nonsensical rambling.

the 4chan barbarians will rape facebooks wife and daughter!
i hope its better than facebook because face book is just stupid for reasons i cant be bothered to explain.

Not before they let out their war cry of "tits or gtfo"

Jordi:

Shapsters:
As long as the new Google site has PROPERLY WORKING CHAT I am on board *grumbles* Don't see why its so hard for Facebook to make a chat system that actually works.

Google already has their own chat software (Google Talk) that also works in GMail. I don't use it, so I don't know if it fits your idea of "working properly".

I don't use it either and I don't plan to because Skype and MSN work perfectly fine for me. However I get very frustrated when I go on Facebook and they are too damn lazy to fix their extremely flawed chat system. So if the site that Google makes does have good chat, as I said before I will gladly switch.

I went through this thread and after all these posts about what Google tried and in what succeeded I see a picture of 'Pinky & The Brain'. They try and they believe that one day they will rule the world.
Good luck! ;)

SnootyEnglishman:
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The plan is working. Soon every popular internet website will destroy one another (except for the Escapist of course) and Snooty Enterprises Inc reigns supreme over the Info Superhighway.
/nonsensical rambling.

Not so fast, Snooty! If and when the websites destroy each other and begin to tear down the internet in an epic cyber-war, the 7 INTERNET DEFENDERS will use their magic keys to reset the internet; thwarting your plans!

OT: Facebook is a super-power among the internet, and I doubt Google's take on the whole social thing will threaten it. Not immediately, anyway.

Kongregate is being bought? Good for them, they deserve it, damn good games.

Anyway, I hope Google uses this opportunity to show some standards with social gaming, instead of the usual Facebook shit.

I am all for success for Google, they've given me more free stuff than any other company, by a landslide.

Sightless Wisdom:
Well, Google is interested so something is going to change. Either way I still like Google a hell of a lot more than Facebook.

Just you wait, my friend. Mark my words, we'll see it soon. Against Google, everyone is the underdog. You know why?

Because they maintain their own private database of every detail about everything we've ever tried to find using google, of every last query, search term and link of google's we ever clicked on.

Sure, Google are usually out and about, doing cool stuff and never really using their power for bad. But what if one day, Google comes under threat? what if, someday, being "evil" is good for Google?

When that day comes, when such power is corrupted by fear and wickedness, Lord Help us. Lord help us all .

But there is still hope. When the time comes, remember those you derided, those who you dismissed as ignorant and vile. When darkness falls, you must find those foes, those wretched demons, for they are the only ones who can help us, THEY are the only ones who can assist us when such dire need arises. You may find them, far over yonder, in the black realm they call...

I'm sorry, I started out with a mild conspiracy theory and ended up with a load of rambling bullshit. I couldn't help myself

Facebook does indeed have something to be worried about, we have to consider that their recent policies that have forced social gaming developers to pay through the nose, all the while removing/limiting some of the things that make these games popular (such as notifications, gifting, etc) has earned it some enmity to say the least. It seems that Google is making the right move. We may very well see a new era in social gaming come out of this.

I'd happily switch to Google for something lighter, cleaner and free of Zynga spam, but if they are there too what's the point?

If Google are only going for social gaming then FaceBook still has the edge with it's messeging service.

Silver Patriot:

ShadowKatt:

Awesomnity:

ShadowKatt:

Google needs to watch their step. All the money in the world can't save them when the US Government decides that they want it.

As it happens the US Government is not all powerful, hush silly forum person.

I shall not hush, and the US Government certainly is all powerful, within the United States. And Google is based in the US. Think what you like, but the laws are written so convolutedly complex that the Government could shut them down if they so chose, and imprison any of the executives in the process.

It may not necessarily be right, but it is possible. Whether the FBI has to go digging through the execs and companies financial records, or they simply ran their company a little shoddy for a couple of weeks, they can find or create problems out of the smallest things.

To bad about all that infomation Google has on them.

On-Topic: Everyone remember that one article[1] that people thought was Facebook? All because it was the first search result returned when you entered "Facebook Login" into Google. (Read about it Here)

Google, have you tried removing Facebook from your search results? I wonder who it would more negatively impact.

geez 762 comments about not being able to log in...HAHAHA losers thanks for pointing it out

all I have to say is I'm worried Google is becoming a monopoly of the web they EVERYTHING and they keep making more soon there will be google porn to challenge the internet porn industry

[1] Read the comments. "LET ME LOG IN!" Ha ha, priceless.

Obviously, everyone has really forgotten about MySpace and Friendster and all the social sites along the lines of history. If another company can come along and do it better, people will flee FB quicker than rats leaving a sinking ship. A lot of people thought Twitter was going to be the newest craze, until it just stagnated as a public SMS site and didn't develop any further. It was just like having a FB wall, without all the Farmville posts.
Now if the almighty Google can introduce something similar to FB, integrate something new into it but generically keep it close to the format of FB, they will easily draw at least casual gamers away from FB. If they wanted to make it easier, they could simply have you import things from FB to their new service. If you registered on FB through Gmail, you already know what I am talking about.

I'm confident it wouldn't take much to unseat FB from its' current throne. If they combine 3D avatars (like XBL), the casual gaming platform (like FB), and the social aspect (like Twitter), they could cobble together a monster to topple the FB behemoth.
I use FB to check up on friends and advertise, so I check in on it once a day and play a couple of games while I'm there to kill some time in the evenings before my friends show up online. I'm not addicted or married to the site, and welcome someone else coming along to bring a fresh perspective to that area already. FB had a good run, but it is time for something new. Twitter is going to crash and burn soon enough and doesn't have the influence to take over anything. If Google makes their social site integrate easily with Android, they would attract people a lot easier anyhow.

Vestsao:
Google can't beat Facebook with this generation.

If everyone has already established themselves on Facebook and they have all their friends together and all their photos why would they go go through the trouble of reestablishing all that all over again on an entirely new system which many of their friends may not even be a part of.

caughmyspacecaugh

Are all of you serious about joining a Google social network if it existed? Because last I checked orkut existed for ages.

That said, if like orkut New Google Thing creates a profile for you if you have a gmail account I guess it'd start with a huge market share. And there's no one to stop it from importing your Facebook info, especially because of how crappy FB's privacy policy is.

Yeah, it'll suck for Facebook. I said I'd skip it and go straight to the next social site so I'd better get ready to join it in time to complain when it becomes mainstream.

Can't help but hope that Google succeeds. They at least started with a concept of 'do no evil' - Facebook started with the concept 'lets' make lots of money'.

Then again, I don't social network, and I detest social games (and before anyone comments, I am a very social person, just not on the internet ;), because there's always that little clause that says whatever you share ceases to be your intellectual property. One of these days people will realise just how little of their supposedly private lives they still own, and how little is private.

oranger:
And we gamers are a step closer to the gamepocalypse, where "social games" become the norm, and we actual gamers are forced into tiny shops and corners and basements, like the tabletop pen and paper crowd was when video games hit the mainstream.
And we're helping it along.

... When were gamers looked upon as being anywhere normal? When did we play our games outside of our corners and basements?

I mean, sure, with the addition of Halo, there were some advancements to the main TV with a couple of beers, and with the introduction of the Wii, we had some good laughs at said TVs being broken. But these were more catered to the casual gamers. The industry is changing - we're not doing a thing, there's nothing we can do.

As for Googlebook, I dunno. I was late in jumping on mySpace, Bebo, and finally Facebook, and I'm constantly trying to hide comments of various tests, Farmville, and apps that do nothing. I'm guessing Google's version won't be any different, and I'll jump late onto that one as well after everyone has gone.

That said, I think Google can pull the base away from Facebook and cause the eventual shift in popularity. If they've already bought Zynga, then they don't have to restart their farms, they can just import it straight off from their Facebook account. Google also has youtube, and everything else that Facebook has google will buy or make better.

Just as Facebook crept up and slowly invaded everyone's lives, Google will do the same, if everyone doesn't realize that they're just wasting their lives away again.

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