Review: Madden NFL 11

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Review: Madden NFL 11

It's really not just a yearly roster update.

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So this + Backbreaker = Win?

Do like the Madden Series even before I moved stateside and really got into NFL.

Gameflow does sound like a great change and finally no sprint to worry over that button kept me from so many jukes and goose steps in previous games!

EDIT: EA did a similar thing with the FIFA games, they fell behind the times with overly ambitious or silly additions and PES took the stage as a more fun game. now with the realism and the way it plays its taken back its crown as the best football (Soccer for you Americans) game on the market

It's good to see they have picked them selves back up after the previous Madden titles that have been sub-par to say the least.

Interesting. I mildly enjoyed Madden '09 I think it was. So perhaps I should give this one a go. I won't pay for it, of course; my brothers love buying sports games. I should be able to point them in the right direction on this one.

LordKaT:
I will respond to this article as calmly and rationally as I possibly can:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN MIND?! Madden 11 has to be THE SINGLE WORST cheap corporate cash in title that I have EVER come across in my ENTIRE LIFE!

I cannot even being to articulate the seething hatred I have for this article writer. I wish you death, sir, death, for even remotely hinting that this game might actually be a worthy game to add to your collection.

I hate you. I hate you with every single ounce of my cold, black soul.

i second that but whit less hate more sadness...

LordKaT:
I will respond to this article as calmly and rationally as I possibly can:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN MIND?! Madden 11 has to be THE SINGLE WORST cheap corporate cash in title that I have EVER come across in my ENTIRE LIFE!

I cannot even being to articulate the seething hatred I have for this article writer. I wish you death, sir, death, for even remotely hinting that this game might actually be a worthy game to add to your collection.

I hate you. I hate you with every single ounce of my cold, black soul.

Just a small tip if you want to stay around here. Don't wish death on staff members. Surely you can see why that's a stupid thing to do.

Anyway, I don't mind EA Sports games, even if they usually don't change much, they're still consistently good. Still, I'd rather stick to sports that my country plays.

I watched LordKaT play this game over his livestream. In the first game he played, there were at least 10 fumbles, 4 interceptions, and easily 10 hurt players on both his _and_ the computer opponent's teams.

...what?!

How is that even possible? Because it was raining?! Can't really accept that unless it was raining olive oil! This says nothing of the pathetic looking crowd (literally one group of maybe 15 people that don't fill half the seats) and the fact that New Meadowlands Stadium doesn't exist in this game. That's really pathetic.

I was waiting for the Madden hate to come to the Escapist. I've seen it everywhere else and all I can say is all you 2K5 enthusiasts need to find a new hobby. I like this iteration as much as it's predecessors. It took a bit of getting used to and now it's just what I wanted...another season of football.

Freebird.:
Just a small tip if you want to stay around here. Don't wish death on staff members. Surely you can see why that's a stupid thing to do.

Protip: Comedy exists outside of your Yhatzee. Sometimes people even use it to emphasize a point in their criticism of an article.

In either case, ban me, probation, whatever you do. It's your community, and I don't particularly care about it. I still think the staff member in question is so phenomenally stupid that they really should never write another article again and instead get a job working in a Deli.

SoulChaserJ:
I was waiting for the Madden hate to come to the Escapist. I've seen it everywhere else and all I can say is all you 2K5 enthusiasts need to find a new hobby. I like this iteration as much as it's predecessors. It took a bit of getting used to and now it's just what I wanted...another season of football.

If they made a good product, there wouldn't be as much hate.

Or they could free the license and allow some competition. Or do you support monopolies?

well i like monopoly...not the spinoff games but the original is pretty good

tjspeirs:
I watched LordKaT play this game over his livestream. In the first game he played, there were at least 10 fumbles, 4 interceptions, and easily 10 hurt players on both his _and_ the computer opponent's teams.

...what?!

How is that even possible? Because it was raining?! Can't really accept that unless it was raining olive oil! This says nothing of the pathetic looking crowd (literally one group of maybe 15 people that don't fill half the seats) and the fact that New Meadowlands Stadium doesn't exist in this game. That's really pathetic.

See, that's funny, because I played the game all weekend and never saw a thing like that. The worst that happened was a one-in-a-million glitch where a field goal hit an upright and didn't go in, but the announcers acted like it did.

So, I guess it's fair to say that this one experience isn't anywhere near norm :)

LordKaT:

Freebird.:
Just a small tip if you want to stay around here. Don't wish death on staff members. Surely you can see why that's a stupid thing to do.

Protip: Comedy exists outside of your Yhatzee. Sometimes people even use it to emphasize a point in their criticism of an article.

In either case, ban me, probation, whatever you do. It's your community, and I don't particularly care about it. I still think the staff member in question is so phenomenally stupid that they really should never write another article again and instead get a job working in a Deli.

Yes, because my experiences with a game fail to mirror your preconceived notions, and because I found Madden 11 to be the most streamlined and best-playing football game I'd ever touched, this clearly means I am phenomenally stupid and have not been spending the last two years of my life learning how to judge a game on its own merits and on my own experiences.

Yeah, I think you need to take a time out. :)

aaw poor lordkat...i guess trolling really doesnt go to well here...

The new play-calling has made online enjoyable for the first time for me. I wish there was a mode so that you could only use flowcast and default audibles. There is still too much time waiting for your opponent hunting around for that perfect play they like to exploit. Ultimate team is fun as well though it is easy to get a real mismatch in players if you get someone who buys a lot of packs, but that has only happened once to me.

The big beef is FREEZING!!! About every other game in offline franchise (my favorite mode) freezes. It looks like this is a common problem in both Xbox and PS3 (I'm an XBox) in off-season mode and I hope it gets fixed.

The most underrated improvement is the smarter blocking AI. It really improves the running game and combined with the removal of the pointless boost button makes it fun to play run oriented offenses again. They fixed the receiving animation choices which were terrible last year which is a plus as well.

All in all I think the tweaks were good and as long as the freezing is addressed, it's not bad. If you hate Madden in general this one will probably not change your mind, but for those that play it at least semi-regularly it is steps in the right directions.

I think the Gameflow is perfect since it makes the game easier to play, since you don't have to worry about the 300 plays that you probably won't use, and most importantly, it's optional. You don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that. I still contend that the best baseball game ever was World Series Baseball 98 for the Saturn. Because it gave you the option to let the computer control the fielding and base running, leaving me to only worry about pitching and batting.

Also on the silence in Superstar mode, I thought that was the way with Road to Glory as well (at least it was in NCAA 10...I skipped 11 this year).

The reason for this is that the regular game tries to mimic a T.V. telecast. Commentators, replays, multiple angles, stats flashing up, etc.

Superstar is the complete opposite. You are supposed to be just the player. All that other stuff is gone, the camera is zoomed in closer to the player to give you more of his perspective that a birds-eye view of the field. You can only hear the chatter of the players on the field, the roar of the crowd and the announcements from the stadium P.A. announcer. Just like a player on the field. It is different, but it's supposed to be.

Superstar is also a great was to play a real quick game when you are really hurting for time. I wish the off the field and pre-draft side of superstar was fleshed out more like it was back a few years ago (at least on the PC releases), but it's still a nice change of pace.

I'm...I'm going to actually try this out.

TO THE DEMOS!

Jason I like ya, but buddy but don't be trolling. Just because someone else disagrees with what you think is no reason to get mad at them. They're opinions for a reason, they cannot be right or wrong. Then proceeding to insult the community because we don't "get the joke".

That being said, on the game at hand I have no opinions because I don't play games like this.

Haha! I came hear after watching Lordkat explode on his livestream. Funny stuff.

OT: It amazed me how they managed to screw something like this up, it's pretty difficult to make such a basic sports game come out so poorly. :(

leviticusd:
The new play-calling has made online enjoyable for the first time for me. I wish there was a mode so that you could only use flowcast and default audibles. There is still too much time waiting for your opponent hunting around for that perfect play they like to exploit. Ultimate team is fun as well though it is easy to get a real mismatch in players if you get someone who buys a lot of packs, but that has only happened once to me.

The big beef is FREEZING!!! About every other game in offline franchise (my favorite mode) freezes. It looks like this is a common problem in both Xbox and PS3 (I'm an XBox) in off-season mode and I hope it gets fixed.

The most underrated improvement is the smarter blocking AI. It really improves the running game and combined with the removal of the pointless boost button makes it fun to play run oriented offenses again. They fixed the receiving animation choices which were terrible last year which is a plus as well.

All in all I think the tweaks were good and as long as the freezing is addressed, it's not bad. If you hate Madden in general this one will probably not change your mind, but for those that play it at least semi-regularly it is steps in the right directions.

This is seriously strange, because I haven't had a single game freeze on me. It's possible that I just got lucky - I'm not saying it's NOT an issue, just one I haven't encountered yet. I wonder if it may be a hardware issue.

I am happy that this version has created something new for the franchise. Definately need to check it out. I buy one sports game per sport about every 5 years because they end up being just 'roster updates', so perhaps I will pick this one up this half-decade.

Perhaps innovation isn't dead?

Or, perhaps the innovation just needed the pressure of a looming fiscal loss to make it rise from its grave.

Also, what's with all the Funk haters? Seriously?

Strange amount of hate in this thread, wish people would learn to construct a civilized argument. "I hate you" is not an argument.

OT: Not a fan of sports games in general, but that is quite a nice yearly update if I do say so myself, I like the idea of them telling you to look for an opportunity and that sort of thing, seems nice :).

tjspeirs:
If they made a good product, there wouldn't be as much hate.

Or they could free the license and allow some competition. Or do you support monopolies?

They made a good product that a lot of people like. Just some people can't stop whining about 2k5. If you like 2k5, play 2k5, I like this iteration of Madden. It's my opinion and I'm just as entitled to it as you are. So here's a concept, if you don't like Madden 11, go PLAY SOMETHING ELSE.

John Funk:

This is seriously strange, because I haven't had a single game freeze on me. It's possible that I just got lucky - I'm not saying it's NOT an issue, just one I haven't encountered yet. I wonder if it may be a hardware issue.

It could be. I don't have problems with any other game, but I do have an older XBox (an arcade that I bought a hard drive for) and while I don't have problems with other games, there might be something that affects my generation's hardware. It doesn't seem to happen to everybody, but there are enough complaints out there to make me think it's more than JUST my hardware. The older Xbox could very well be part of the problem.

Yay can't wait for their PC version :).

...oh.

Isn't this new playcalling basically "Ask Madden"?

The hate for Madden was never because the games were BAD, its because they're all basically the same game. I will admit that according to what I've heard, Madden 11 does implement some neat changes, but that doesn't excuse 10 games and 10 years of using a magic vacuum to suck up consumer's money.

The hate is the IDEA of Madden, not the games themselves. I guess the point is, any Madden game was good, but that doesn't mean you can re-release it every damn year.

Everyone's gripes about madden are borderline retarded, but hey everyone has an opinion now a days. Only game I have been looking forward to (on a console) this year.

Oh yes, ESPN did an awesome story on the franchise:

Espn.com article

crystalsnow:
The hate is the IDEA of Madden, not the games themselves. I guess the point is, any Madden game was good, but that doesn't mean you can re-release it every damn year.

While the argument does have some merit, each iteration improves on some things every year. The people that buy it on a yearly basis probably want it because it is a roster update and they are okay with that. Personally, the last Madden I bought was 2007 (and 2003 before that). The improvements in those four years make it a fantastic sequel more than a roster update. No one is telling you to buy it every year so enjoy one for a few years if you don't mind playing with outdated teams.

Wow, now I'm somewhat interested in buying a console.

Edit: Wait is the PS2 version of it basically the same with shittier graphics?

Rayjay06:

crystalsnow:
The hate is the IDEA of Madden, not the games themselves. I guess the point is, any Madden game was good, but that doesn't mean you can re-release it every damn year.

While the argument does have some merit, each iteration improves on some things every year. The people that buy it on a yearly basis probably want it because it is a roster update and they are okay with that. Personally, the last Madden I bought was 2007 (and 2003 before that). The improvements in those four years make it a fantastic sequel more than a roster update. No one is telling you to buy it every year so enjoy one for a few years if you don't mind playing with outdated teams.

I'm going to have to agree with him here. Madden fans in general (there are always exceptions) are actually pretty casual gamers. They are on average a bit older. I'm 30 and most the people I know that are big Madden fans are around my age or older. In general they only buy a few games a year, (Madden, maybe another sports title and possibly a fps shooter like Call of Duty or Halo) and they play it all year long, so even the small changes are generally welcome. Being a bit older and usually in more steady income situations they have the discretionary funds that $60 bucks for the game every year isn't that big of deal.

Combine that with the fact many loyal Madden fans have a favorite team and follow them more closely than they did in their younger days, the up to date rosters mean that much more. Playing without their new big free agent signings and impact rookies just isn't as fun.

If I remember right, the general age on this forum is something like 17-22. When I was that age, I loved Madden, but I didn't have the time to follow the NFL close enough to care (and my team stunk...really, really stunk). Plus the price tag was a big chunk of change when money was harder to come by.

I do wish Madden had and NFL licensed competitor again as I think that would drive the quality up even faster, but the yearly releases don't bother me. I don't disagree with those that hate it though, I just think in general they may not be the target audience for the yearly release.

John Funk:

leviticusd:
The new play-calling has made online enjoyable for the first time for me. I wish there was a mode so that you could only use flowcast and default audibles. There is still too much time waiting for your opponent hunting around for that perfect play they like to exploit. Ultimate team is fun as well though it is easy to get a real mismatch in players if you get someone who buys a lot of packs, but that has only happened once to me.

The big beef is FREEZING!!! About every other game in offline franchise (my favorite mode) freezes. It looks like this is a common problem in both Xbox and PS3 (I'm an XBox) in off-season mode and I hope it gets fixed.

The most underrated improvement is the smarter blocking AI. It really improves the running game and combined with the removal of the pointless boost button makes it fun to play run oriented offenses again. They fixed the receiving animation choices which were terrible last year which is a plus as well.

All in all I think the tweaks were good and as long as the freezing is addressed, it's not bad. If you hate Madden in general this one will probably not change your mind, but for those that play it at least semi-regularly it is steps in the right directions.

This is seriously strange, because I haven't had a single game freeze on me. It's possible that I just got lucky - I'm not saying it's NOT an issue, just one I haven't encountered yet. I wonder if it may be a hardware issue.

To stick up for my buddy Jason (but with much less fervor) I do agree that this game really isn't that streamlined. Most of the menus could have been cut down or switched around for ease of access, and with the technology that most devs have at their fingertips, the visual presentation could have been better as well.

However, I think the big issue that Jason didn't touch on was that it doesn't help if you have your dev team working on an MMA game at the same time (that they have no business making considering EA Canada is the better pick) that you're working on THE football game everyone plays. I personally think that the game suffers for it.

Then again, "I personally think" is the key phrase here. It's just an opinion, and those corporate cash-in complaints and such really are best left to editorials. When reviewing a game, the impression I've always been given is that you review the game itself, not the B.S. surrounding it so you can do your best to stay unbiased. Well, in a written review anyway. Video reviews are a different beast, and they tend to be more of a mix between editorial and review than anything.

Your review was well written from a grammatical standpoint, and you do a solid job of giving your perspective, but I don't think many will agree.

Well after reading your review John, I got a couple of things to say. First, it was a well written review and you did a good job giving your opinion, but I don't agree with you at all. This has to be the worst Madden game, no worst football game I have played in a long time. If you truly like this game, and feel that its the best football game out there, then more power to you. This is one game I will warn everyone that I can to stay away from.

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