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Game Changer

Did Scott Pilgrim just change the way movies tell stories?

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Looking forward to reading this after I've seen Scott Pilgrim. (I do read warnings)

Must see it this weekend.

Darn those significant spoilers, I was all ready to read this.

Movie wasnt good enough to be special in any way.

This Article plus your review on the Expendables has already made my day. Thank you Bob for saying everything that I've been telling my friends over the past week.

Yeah, it made sure no studio ever wasted that much money on pretentious hispters again, after being such a disspointment. It showed that just because fat nerds that think they are cool despite the rest of the world mocking them do not make up the majority of the movie audience! Look at the numbers,Bobbie. It was not a success by any stretch. Why would anyone want to change to be like that? Stupid.

It really wasn't a good movie. The graphic novels are good, but like other long, episodic stories, it just doesn't cram together well and the pacing is way off. Add to that the deadpan lack of acting by a bunch of otherwise decent talent and you get.... a severe disappointment. We don't know why Ramona's so attractive to Scott, because she never emotes or otherwise gives him a reason; likewise, Scott's just kind of there, pining for Ramona, and nothing else, for no other reason than she's an aloof counter-culture girl who dresses cool. There's just zero chemistry.

It was just a series of fights, and sort of came off as Mortal Kombat's G-rated little brother. That's a shame, because the graphic novels are more about Scott getting some self-respect and changing from slacker to functional adult.

As for what MovieBob was saying in the article, I don't think the movie was a game-changer, either. It made use of some narrative devices previously introduced by way of the graphic novel, but they're not a good replacement for solid writing, good acting, or decent pacing, which this movie didn't have.

Still not as bad as the Last Airbender, but the video game gimmicks and weird edit/scene changes don't save it, sorry.

Well unless my alter-ego decides that seeing this movie is incredibly important, it will go unwatched. After the emergence of the Cera virus it is always advised that you avoid anything contaminated with him.

Pugiron:
Yeah, it made sure no studio ever wasted that much money on pretentious hispters again, after being such a disspointment. It showed that just because fat nerds that think they are cool despite the rest of the world mocking them do not make up the majority of the movie audience! Look at the numbers,Bobbie. It was not a success by any stretch. Why would anyone want to change to be like that? Stupid.

I don't think change is happening right now with the box office returns. You're right on that part. But judging on word of mouth that the movie is generating it's looking like it's going to hit cult status on DVD. If that does happen, then yeah studios are going to pay attention.

So, does anyone besides me love that movie?

I doubt it's really going to influence much, certainly not for a while anyway.

Most truly influential films are both critical and commercial successes and while Scott Pilgrim has some pretty varied reviews it's tanked commercially. Also it's aesthetcs design is just too far from Hollywood for them to really "get" it. I mean most of Terry Gilliam films could be huge influetial works, but they're failures so they aren't.

It's possible that 10 or so years from now people who grew up with Scott Pilgrim will do similar stuff but I really doubt it's influence will go beyond that.

Calendor1:
So, does anyone besides me love that movie?

Don't worry, you aren't alone. That movie is amazing. It makes me want to see a new Super Mario Bros. movie.

aw shucks, can't read since I have yet to see Scott Pilgrim. Shall probably see it this Sunday, and I must say I have begun to look forward to it.

Calendor1:
So, does anyone besides me love that movie?

I do! I don't care that it got fifth place it's still awesome and I love how it tells the story similar to the comic books. Despite certain scenes not filmed of the comics due to it's compression it still makes a great impact in the overall world of cinemas and movies available today. I'll also check out that suggested Woody Allen movie as well. Thanks MovieBob!

Pugiron:
Yeah, it made sure no studio ever wasted that much money on pretentious hispters again, after being such a disspointment. It showed that just because fat nerds that think they are cool despite the rest of the world mocking them do not make up the majority of the movie audience! Look at the numbers,Bobbie. It was not a success by any stretch. Why would anyone want to change to be like that? Stupid.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. I mean, I get that you didn't like the movie (more than likely didn't even see it <---- me making an inference on you based on the majority of society nowadays) but why is it hipster? What about it makes, as you say, "fat nerds" think they are cool?

Hmm.. I loved the movie, but didn't really think about the possible impacts you mentioned. Could be cool if things happened like that.

And this movie is totally gonne go "cult status" when it hits DVD/blu ray.

Right now I'm watching Annie Hall.

And I'll be watching Scott Pilgrim as soon as it's out in the UK.

It was intresting, im not sure its something thats really going to push borders.

I think, although good...people really do over hype Scott Pilgrim

I think if anything, it will pave the way for continued inventiveness in incorporating video game aesthetics into other media. I don't really see it as a game changer any more than any other graphic novel adaptation was a game changer. I also don't think we'll see the "1-UP" mechanic for rebirth appearing in anything other than a specifically video game-related story. This comic and the film were consistently imbued with that idea, so the concept of a 1-UP makes narrative sense. We'd already seen crazy fights and people bursting into coins--the VG images had already been established--so we accepted the 1-UP idea. But you'll never see a 1-UP used in a serious dramatic piece. Doing so would remove us from the experience. No matter how ingrained in our culture video games become, we'll still be aware of their retro origins and the other-ness of their imagery. I mean, sitcoms and laugh-tracks are ingrained in our culture, but you'll never hear a laugh-track in a tragic drama trying to relieve tension, no matter how understanding we are of television's generic conventions.

MOVING AWAY!!! I'm avoiding this til I've seen Scott Pilgrim in the UK on Wednesday! So again, NAVIGATE AWAY DAMMIT!!

Calendor1:
So, does anyone besides me love that movie?

It's one of my favorite movies this year! Despite the source being a graphic novel series, I think this will be a great reference for how to do great video game movies (at least, the insane ones driven by power ups and excuse plots...I demand a good Mario movie now!)

What the hell is Scott Pilgrim anyway??

Calendor1:
So, does anyone besides me love that movie?

Me. I love that movie so much it isn't even funny. Well the movie is, and it's also great.

I didn't want to see it at first, but mostly because I thought Michael Cera was one of the worst possible people to play Scott.
Everybody at work loved the movie, though. And I'll admit that I like the idea of mixing video games and real life in a show-- after all, I did like Code Monkeys.


Yeah, I'm gonna go see it.

No, no it won't. Michelle Cera equals fail.

WHY DID I NOT READ THE SPOILER! WHY!!!

Any way I may go check this Annie Hall.

The Greeks really did say it all. Breaking the fourth wall? Check out the Greek comedy "The Birds". You already mentioned the Hercules myth. I believe that all true, great art goes back to the source of all epic story telling, and reinvents those stories with the language of the time. Woody Allen used philospohers, and writers, and even filmakers (Igmar Burgman especially). Scott Pilgram uses comics and video games. The language or the style I don't think matters so much as long as they are able to convey the root story.
So, NO, Scott Pilgram did not change the ways in which we tell stories, Scott Pilgram gave us a new language in which to tell the same old stories we've been telling for thousands of years. And that is a good enough thing in and of itself.

I am getting sick and tired of all these people pining over this bad movie. I really hope it'll be over soon.

Damn it Bob, I just finished trying to defend your opinion against all the Expendable fans you pissed off, and you repay me by spoiling the movie I'm going to see tomorrow in the first paragraph?! I'm going to spend the rest of my day drinking and forgetting about what you said. Too bad I gave up weed. Man, I hope you only said half the story or outright lied. (AND NO, NO BODY CONFIRM THAT FOR ME!)

That being said, I look forward to reading your commentary discussing modern movie storytelling AFTER I SEE THE MOVIE.

Can't wait for people to forget this, for some reason I just can't stand Scott Pilgrim.

Did you have to put the big spoiler in the very first line? I know the warnings there but usually you're safe to skim the top of a spoiler article to get a general idea what its about.

Calendor1:
So, does anyone besides me love that movie?

I loved it. It was fun and original, and that's all that matters to me.

Bob, thanks to you, my Zip List will never empty. I swear every time I read an Intermission it grows longer.

Okay, a lot of people do like it. Cool. This, along with Kick-Ass and Inception are my favorite movies of the year.

Towels:
Damn it Bob, I just finished trying to defend your opinion against all the Expendable fans you pissed off, and you repay me by spoiling the movie I'm going to see tomorrow in the first paragraph?!

Didn't see the bit about spoilers? And besides, the whole "item" around which the ending revolves? It's shown in the trailer, so you have to assume he uses it in the movie. The trailer already hints that at some point he's going to use a 'you fail, continue y/n?'.

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