Don't Use the Word "Gamer"

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MissAshley:

Anyone who calls themselves a girl gamer is basically wearing a sandwich board saying "LOOK AT ME." Then, in smaller letters underneath, "POSSIBLE DADDY ISSUES." Then a semi-colon, then "WAAA" in brackets.

I understand the humorous intent, but it does point to a very real issue. Why do people assume emotionally troubled and/or attention-seeking females have "daddy issues"?

Probably based off personal experience.

CyricZ:

Sir John the Net Knight:
It's my general policy to assume the worst of people until they prove other wise.

Must be tough making friends. :-/

Not really, it is much more like making friends and not fully trusting them until they prove they are not complete asses or that they have a tendency to screw over all their friends when their newest girlfriend/boyfriend says they don't like us (the other friends).

One can have the best of both worlds, the only downside (if you can call it a downside) is having a fewer friends that you can really trust and then rim friends who are working their way to being core friends. So maybe a few less friends, but as life is not facebook I don't need to count them ;).

Orange_Clockwork:
I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.

Traitor! The robots screwed over Saren what makes you think they will be nice to you?

ShoopDaToaster:

Irridium:
If you really want to be classified as "gamer", I have a handy dandy little chart so you can see what kind of gamer you are.

However thats only if you consider yourself a gamer, instead of simply "someone who play games".

I'm the PCfag,Steam is a good friend of mine and a cool story bro.

I do think im a "One guy who actually likes videogames".

This has been bugging me for some time. Thank you Yahtzee.

People who talk about "gamer culture" just weird me out.

Lionsfan:
I totally agree. Whenever you hear the word "Gamer" you think of a socially inept loser in a basement. On cracked.com David Wong actually wrote a pretty good article about this same sort of situation. I guess great minds think alike then? Anyway, enjoy "oppressing some brown people" and have fun on vacation Yahtzee

Honestly when I hear the word "gamer" these days I think of the kind of people who both play video games and wanted to see that Gerard Butler movie. And when months ago my college adviser brought up the existence of a gaming club on campus as a means of acclimating to the place, I winced inside as I imagined a bunch of blokes playing nothing but shooting and fighting titles.

I may not think of the negative stereotypes mentioned in the article, but I do think of some negative stereotypes nonetheless. :(

I actually had a conversation about this with a friend of mine. He said that gamer, as all labels, are bad because it stereotypes and separates people. Stereotypes are a completely different argument, but I don't fall under the gamer stereotype anyway, so I don't care. I don't particularly mind being separated from people who think of a word and then massively generalize all included. Plus, I've become attached to it.

So... I'll keep "gamer." Sorry, Mr. Croshaw. Thanks for the laughs, though.

I have acne. And just before reading this article I was drinking milk D:

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

Either you're trolling or.. shit I don't know?

Don't like don't watch I guess.

Anyway, I never use the term gamer.

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

He's on vacation next week, it says so in the article...

You did read the article didn't you?

Shycte:

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

Either you're trolling or.. shit I don't know?

Don't like don't watch I guess.

Anyway, I never use the term gamer.

Everyone needs to vent at some point.
Though I resent being called "gutter trash from Gamefaqs". "Refugee" is closer to the truth.

You somehow reached in to my brain, burrowed past the cobwebs, soft porn and repressed memories of my father urinating on a hammock and manhandled your way out with my idea for a Gaming Bar! Except I wasn't going to call it Mana, I was going to call it 'Matt's Shiny Happy Fun Place Where You Can Get Drunk And Play Games.' Mana is probably a little catchier...

I was gonna have it in an old gothic church with hot waitresses and live music on a Friday and Saturday night. I hadn't figured out how to stop people walking out with the wireless controllers though...

Any-who, how dare you steal my obviously lucrative brain child? I demand a 5 way split and you're lucky I'm offering that! I've seen inception! Actually no I haven't, but I've seen the trailers and got the jist of it from movie bob and I shan't be played!

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

If you want an example of the kind of person I'm talking about, click on the comments link down below, and there'll probably be a few who fell for the bait in the last paragraph and are now arguing over the correct spelling of whatever that flaky bint's name was.

I honestly thought this post was satirical and you were just being funny (and I lol'd pretty hard), but then I read the rest of your comments and it made my stomach hurt a little.

I dunno. Maybe I did get trolled and you just took your trolling to new heights. When I troll I usually just make one post saying Canada is a frozen tundra or something.

I guess my point is maybe you should just chill the fuck out and not get so offended over other people's opinions. My favorite game is KOTOR II for Christ's sake, and I constantly get to hear how it was a shitty unfinished game.

Also, I play Halo. So, yeah. There's that too.

Anyways, I've always hated the gamer term. I've never referred to myself as a gamer and I don't think I ever will. But, Yahtzee's being a dick. If people really enjoy having "gaming pride" (like that one dude that typed up several paragraphs distinguishing between "gamer" and "casual gamer who doesn't play casual games," which is the most mind-blowing argument imaginable) then fuck it. I know that Yathzee's underlying argument is that removing the term is good for the, um, group of people who play video games in the long run... but I just don't think it matters. Comic book fans are still thought of as nerds (because they are) and that's been around for like a century. Video games are just destined to be a subculture of nerd, and the only way to get out of it is to embrace casual gaming.

Then again, Yahtzee's article ideas are probably pretty low (hence the vacation), so he just shit this out. Yeah. That's probably it.

...FUCK How is yahtzee able to sway my mind with just a 2 page article FUCK! kidding. But most people on this site don't act like this

If you want an example of the kind of person I'm talking about, click on the comments link down below, and there'll probably be a few who fell for the bait in the last paragraph and are now arguing over the correct spelling of whatever that flaky bint's name was. These are the people who hurl abuse at film critics who question the artistic potential of games and send death threats to Jack Thompson - which only proved his point.

People on this site are intelligent and avoid dickheads like that.

I think your "Extra Punctuation" is better than your "Zero Punctuation" now. Good editorial, and I once again agree.

Sheinen:
You somehow reached in to my brain, burrowed past the cobwebs, soft porn and repressed memories of my father urinating on a hammock and manhandled your way out with my idea for a Gaming Bar! Except I wasn't going to call it Mana, I was going to call it 'Matt's Shiny Happy Fun Place Where You Can Get Drunk And Play Games.' Mana is probably a little catchier...

I was gonna have it in an old gothic church with hot waitresses and live music on a Friday and Saturday night. I hadn't figured out how to stop people walking out with the wireless controllers though...

Any-who, how dare you steal my obviously lucrative brain child? I demand a 5 way split and you're lucky I'm offering that! I've seen inception! Actually no I haven't, but I've seen the trailers and got the jist of it from movie bob and I shan't be played!

Know what? I havent heard of a place like that anywhere in America (there probably is, but still), I think im going to start my own. Thanks Yahtzee... also noticed all my comments on this thread were about the Aeris arguement, and not on the topic of the article (Yahtzee, you sly dog you), so I perfer not to be called a gamer, unlike other people, I want to be known for more than that, but gamer seems like it would drown out everything else about me...

I really don't understand his issue.
Gamers are people whose main hobby is gaming, like bookworms are people whose main hobby is reading books.
There's nothing wrong with defining oneself as I see it.

If your in a band or play an instrument, it is fine for someone to call you a musician. If your good a Poker you can be identified by that trait: A Poker player. If you golf your a golfer. I had a list of about 9 more of these but you get the idea.

The point is, theres an excess of people who play instruments (chums like me can play 3 for fucks sake). Plenty of people are good at Poker, and plenty of people (for unknown reasons to me) enjoy Golf.

So why the attitude with the word Gamer? Yahtzee, are you seriously so whiney that you expect other people to agree that they should stop having labels based off of hobbys? Seriously. Enough.

That is something people do. You associate people by their attributes, skills, abilities, hobbies, etc. I was the tallest person in my graduating class in high school, people refered to me as "Big Man". By your logic, I should condem people who refer to tall people as "Big Men" because it perpetuates a mindset of a certain set of stereotypes. I can play 3 Instruments, but should condem people who call me a musician because it perpetuates a mindset of a certain set of stereotypes. Our high school band made shirts that said "Band Geek" on them, SHAME ON ALL OF US FOR PERPETUATING...

Seriously, I get the points. Being a gamer isn't like being a surgeon; when you game your not doing anything but relaxing. And to be proud and "show off" about being a gamer is pretty useless to do, kind of.

Gaming Culture though is a very odd one though. While what were doing might not be important, it takes a degree of competitive skill to play some of the games. Not only that, but some people want to be associated by them being a gamer; it shows like minded people they have something in common and gives them good talking points.

Musicians will talk about Music, Gamers will talk about games. Yahtzee, point = moot.

We shouldn't call ourselves gamers because society has put a label on the word? I guess we shouldn't say we play video games for the same reason.

For instance, if I were to call myself an otaku people would look at me strangely. If/when I tell people that I watch anime I get equally weird looks.

An entire article where I agree with every word Yahtzee has said? Hell must have frozen over.

I have also been trying to say the same thing on this forum, especially in reference to 'hardcore' and 'casual' arguments.

The point is that you are putting yourself into a group by which people will define you. I like computer games, sometimes I play them too much, sometimes I get more excited about a games release than a logical adult probably should. That is not the sum of my being though, I don't call myself a reader, or a film-watcher, or a exerciser, so why define myself by a single hobby?

That said, those are my reasons for why I don't define myself as a gamer, if people really wish to do the above then more power to them.

Irridium:
If you really want to be classified as "gamer", I have a handy dandy little chart so you can see what kind of gamer you are.

However thats only if you consider yourself a gamer, instead of simply "someone who play games".

My friend was born to belong in Nostalgiafag, and hes only twelve :l.
but I dont know what I belong in though :/. But if I was held at gun-point and forced to pick one, i will probably pick 23 :l.

So, I was hoping for a new ZP, but whatever :/. What with this year being a slew of disappointments, Yahtzee deserves a break.

Tho I don't fully agree with what you say. (Even though some great points were given, mind you.) I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

Scrumpmonkey:
What else do we call "Someone who playes games a lot"? "An interactive media fan?" ? Just becuase 'gamer' has a bit of a bad image does not me we should abandon the word wholesale. If we stop using gamer ans start using, i don't know, "Gameist" or whatever the stereotype will just move over to that word and we will look like pretencious dick-bags in the meantime.

Exactly this.

I play and am interested in video games, therefore I am a gamer, regardless of any negative stereotypes that may center around the hobby. I'm a video gamer just as surely as I'm a movie-goer, book reader and music lover, because I'm interested in those too, but I don't define myself solely by the hobbies I enjoy.

So true!

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

I quite cease to see why this is important.
If you somehow lack the ability not to listen to people, especially people who according to you are "the world's asshole population", then that's your problem.
While we're at it, why in the name of the non-existing god do you try so hard to join this part of the population.

Another thing I dont get is, why the hatred towards Yahtzee? He is expressing his opinion about a subject in a manner which he thinks best, it's his way, not yours. He has as the same right as you to write things like this. As a manner of fact this message is an example of it!
And it's not people like Yathzee that ruin a hobby, it's the fact that you actually think that. Your letting it ruin the hobby for you, and that's entirely your fault!

Anyway, to Yahtzee I say only, rant on! You're doing a hell of a good job.
(And yes I think hell is imaginary too.)
Ow and happy holidays.

Iffat Nur:

Irridium:
If you really want to be classified as "gamer", I have a handy dandy little chart so you can see what kind of gamer you are.

However thats only if you consider yourself a gamer, instead of simply "someone who play games".

My friend was born to belong in Nostalgiafag, and hes only twelve :l.
but I dont know what I belong in though :/. But if I was held at gun-point and forced to pick one, i will probably pick 23 :l.

So, I was hoping for a new ZP, but whatever :/. What with this year being a slew of disappointments, Yahtzee deserves a break.

Well you could be multiple ones.

For example I'd be 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 15, 21, 23 and occasionally 27.

Sansha:

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Extra Punctuation: Don't Use the Word "Gamer"

Not all gamers are sweaty manchildren playing games in their parent's basement. Some of them are actually normal.

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Like... you?

On topic, I agree. I don't use the word gamer anyhow... it carries with it a negative stigma that's sort of unappealing to be labelled as.

And yes, 'girl gamer' is the worst. As if it's something special to be a female who plays video games. The smart girls I know on the intertubes disguise their gender to simply get along with the game, rather than be bombarded with unwanted attention.

This^ is why I don't speak on XBox Live.

OT: I am guilty of using the word gamer. It does have a negative connotation and stereotype, but it's one that doesn't fit me. I mainly use it to attempt to dispel the stereotype. I have friends who say they'd "never date a gamer. Bad hygiene is a deal-breaker" to which I reply with something like "I'm a gamer. Are you insulting my hygiene?" Stereotypes and generalizations are something that have always grated on me,, so I seek to destroy them when I can.

There's enough reason in the article to try to eradicate the word (and hopefully, the stereotype) altogether. I'm down.

Ne1butme:

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Extra Punctuation: Don't Use the Word "Gamer"

Yahtzee is a British-born, currently Australian-based writer and gamer with a sweet hat and a chip on his shoulder. When he isn't talking very fast into a headset mic he also designs freeware adventure games and writes the back page column for PC Gamer, who are too important to mention us. His personal site is www.fullyramblomatic.com.

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If you can't convince the Escapist editors of your cause and get them to change your bio, then what hope do you have for the rest of the community?

Nice catch. Hopefully Yahtzee will actually see this and respond.

Init.

Thank-you Yahtzee. The problem with "gamer" culture is the elitism isn't that people think people who play video games live in their parents' basements and have bad acne anymore. The problem is that people who are very much into "gamer culture" are insistent that that people think people who play video games live in their parents' basements and have bad acne anymore.

For example:

Caligula_II:
I don't really use gamer either, but I'm not sure the term will go away until games gain some more acceptance. This comes with time and defying sterotype, of course, not with this idiotic "gamer pride" thing that's been going on.

How much more acceptance do people who play a lot of video games need? WoW has 10 million subscribers. The top ten MMOs have around 60 Million between them, which is estimated to be about half total.

Find a college student who has never played Halo, I bet you can't.

The problem is gaming elitism. It's discounting the 100 million people who play Farmville as not "true gamers" and then saying nobody plays video games. I personally really enjoy the Halo games. For this opinion, I have been told I'm not a real gamer. I'm bored to tears by Gran Turismo, I think multiplayer is more fun than single player in almost every regard. Because of this, I know a few people at work, those that I would dub more "hardcore," they tell me that I don't really play video games.

So yes, if you discount all of the hundreds of millions of people who play video games regularly, but they don't play the kind of video games you personally like, then being a gamer is not mainstream, has yet to gain social acceptance. Just like if you discount the movies about Iron Man, X-Men, Batman, the Christopher Reeves Superman and Spider-man, comic books are not main stream and don't have a lot of acceptance. But I have trouble believing that a movie coming from unpopular and even stigmatized source material is going to make hundreds of millions of dollars. Hell, Transformers 2 was, by ticket sales, a huge hit, and that was a shitty moved based on shitty comics, a shitty cartoon, and actually kinda cool toys.

Anyways, to sum up. My point is that if people stopped the whole in-your-face gamer attitude about how much they suffer for their hobby, or the constant "I play video games, but I'm good at sports" type stuff that implies that people who play sports don't play video games or vice versa, and just played video games and talked about them with people who also played and didn't talk about them with people who didn't, no one would care. Because you know what? Most people don't care about you or your hobbies. Most people aren't going to be affected either way, they only get a problem when you won't shut up about how you went 30-4 in MW2, or how mind blowing you thought the end of Mass Effect 2 was.

If they cared, they would play it and find out themselves.

Hm. I've never really noticed before, but whenever I use 'gamer' to describe myself I've always felt kinda dirty.... almost shameful even....

Even though I am a 'gamer', I guess I associate it with overweight men living in their mothers basement or immature thirteen year-olds screaming profanities.

I'll try to refrain from using that term from now on, labels are pretty dumb anyways.

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

Please, let me first just say, you suck for making me have to do research >.<

Now, I never actually played FF VII (I was an N64 kid thank you very much), but from what I understand (wiki articles on Tifa, Aeris/Aerith or whatever the hell her name is, my cousin in BD), more ppl would write hentai about Tifa then Aerith. And its not just because she died, we have prequels for that :l. Its because she is an uninteresting character. You can't exactly put alot of your emotions into someone who doesnt actually appear as much as the other three protagonists. the entire point of super-emotional death is that you can fully understand the characters. Sure, it was shocking, I wont put Japanese ppl in such a low position to call them super-cliche, but it wasnt a thing that made you feel seriously pissed at Seporith, or dried your "manliness" to dust. Toy Story 3 is an example of what I mean. You dont see Andy a huge amount in the first two, but you understand he loves his toys (loved, sorry :l). So it was a truly sad thing when it showed the montage of Andy playing with his toys, especially if you watched the first two movies, along with the trailer. They didn't need to kill Andy, but they still managed to convey emotion because you (if youre not the fag who watches sequels before prequels) because, like I said, you understood the character. Know, I know the Final Fantasy stories dont have a line to show progress in it (or as far as I know), but they could have had it run into a sequel, where Aeris/Aerith would be understood a little more before truly dying.

Then again, for what I just said, maybe Final Fantasy 7 wouldnt have been that popular :/

I'm a gamer, but I'm not shouting it at people, if someone asks me "if you had to label yourself?" I'd say "I'm a gothic gamer nerd" and that would be the end of that.

ilovemyLunchbox:

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

Aeris is a flaky bint. Hell, she was the most boring character in the game. I stand by that steadfast. I never understood the obsession with her.

Aeris was not the worst, she was the same level of shit as all the other characters, because FFVII was shit then, it's shit now and it will forever be shit until the time when Jesus fucking christ comes down and cleanses all shit from the earth and any one who gets worked up over Aeris is a true loser who makes overweight anime perverts seem like good folks because at least they won't blow up in your face over something as shit as a crap character from a crap game from a pretty crap time period for games.

Scrumpmonkey:
Well i don't have acne but i do smell like wet dog on account of being caught out in the torrential rain a 15 minute walk away from my house (fucking non functional bus system....)

What else do we call "Someone who playes games a lot"? "An interactive media fan?" ? Just becuase 'gamer' has a bit of a bad image does not me we should abandon the word wholesale. If we stop using gamer ans start using, i don't know, "Gameist" or whatever the stereotype will just move over to that word and we will look like pretencious dick-bags in the meantime. Like so;

"Well im quite the fan of Games"

"So you're a gamer?"

"No. Im an interactive media fan!"

"...."

...

"dick"

You're ignoring the point of the article. I enjoy books. Am I a Reader? Should I be wearing shirts with F. Scott Fitzgerald titles emblazoned across the front? Should people make snacks and Mountain Dew flavors that are marketed to people who love books?
Unless you are a huge idiot, you will answer no to all of the above questions.

Sir John the Net Knight:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.

I hate to double post, but I felt the inexplicable urge to acknowledge what is clearly the most bizarre troll of all time.
Well played.

I see where your going with this and I agree that it has a bad stereotype around it but I doubt that getting rid of the word will get rid of the stereotype, and there will always be people who have to label them selfs as gamers just because with out it they have no label. Everybody wants to have a label (be it sports star, rock god, goth, or even average joe) and without it they'll have no idea who to hangout with. I agree with the principle of this article but I don't think it would change much.

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