Kinect Is Not For You

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You took three pages to explain why Kinect exist. I can do that in one sentence.

Microsoft saw the money wii made, and wanted it.

To use a gun analogy most people would understand, the Kinect is a shotgun, meant to have a wide spread but not much range (Your mom will play maybe 2 games on it and ignore the rest of what Microsoft has to offer in regular games such as GoW or Halo), It's not as tough everyone will stop making games for the regular controller (They're too used to it anyway), but many developers may add Kinect Functionality to their games.

Too bad the "people who play games" also don't give a flying shit about Kinect because it's too expensive and they all already have Wii bowling.

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"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

A- Fucking -Men!!

That's why I made the jump to Sony in the first place. But like you said, They haven't sold out YET!

I called this about halfway through the original milo based Natal announcement trailer.

I said something along the lines of this.

"Bullshit, Milo is not real, they're faking that, and it's going to just be used for eye toy like shovelware, also, who the fuck decided to attack Molyneux's face to a product in order to get customers to put faith in it!?"

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"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

How is xbox live having children Microsoft selling out?

Also, if it's true that PSN doesn't (it does) it's only because nobody uses PSN

Microsoft put on its event and it wasn't geared to us. The real information about Kinect would be revealed during its actual E3 press event. While it gave us good information on Halo Reach and Gears of War 3, Microsoft wanted to make Kinect the star of the show. Again, Microsoft was gearing this thing to "people who play games", not "gamers." We, the people who identify themselves as "gamers", were effectively ignored when it came to the technology that we were so interested in. It became apparent that Microsoft is not marketing the Kinect to core gamers. There's a very good reason for this, although we may not like it one bit.

Yup, makes sense... because grandmothers and 8 year old Jenny who plays on her DS every now and again do indeed watch the E3 xD What they do instead is not only not get people interested in their new useless 150$ gadget, but alienate their old target audience at the same time, which seems like a win win for me...

Microsoft's new philosophy can be summed up as wanting to be the destination for entertainment and information wherever people look for entertainment and information. Microsoft has found success on the PC with Windows 7, its search engine Bing is growing and the company is poised to make a huge statement with the launch of its new Windows 7 Phone that integrates MS Office, Xbox Live and the Zune in an attractive mobile OS. With the Xbox 360 in over 41 million homes worldwide, and in over 10 million homes in the US, Microsoft needs a way to boost sales. It is critical to put more boxes in more homes.

I think people rather see them as "the guys, that always seem to copy what the other guys did great to get into the market, but don't quite succeed with it" e.g. said Zune, Kinect, Bing, Games for Windows Live, Windows Mobile... trying to copy the big guy that already covered something and did it fine half-assed won't get them anywhere in the long run. They should remain at and invest in reinforcing their strong points instead.

Games are GAMES!!! They are not a way of life, you dont have to be indoctrinated in to a secret society in order to enjoy them!

You want to know why M$ is chasing a new market? Because you won't buy anything unless it's got Halo, Gears of War or CoD in the title! AND even worse, you actively prevent any new buyers from joining the market!

'Core Gamers' have developed such an unwarranted superiority complex that not only will you not buy anything unless they lick your arse in its production and marketing, but you'll then shit all their saliva over anyone new who try's to give them some money!

Remember when you first started playing games. Think back to how exciting, fun, new and difficult it all was! Now imagine trying to learn all that with some arrogant narcissist calling you a noob, demanding that you leave the real games to gamers and get back to farmville.

You think that you're the pillars of the gaming industry, holding it high on your mighty shoulders? You're just a nail in it's coffin. Get over yourselves.

Oh and the thought you guys are having that 'if it makes money they'll spend it on a new Halo game' is fucking ridiculous! If it makes money they'll spend it on a new Kinect game, because that's what made the money! If anything it's success would only further remove you from the equation.

danpascooch:

CORRODED SIN:
"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

How is xbox live having children Microsoft selling out?

Also, if it's true that PSN doesn't (it does) it's only because nobody uses PSN

I didn't say MS sold out because of kids. I said the last thing live needs is more kids. Kinect will invite them. It is going to suck. Sony hasn't sold out because Move really isn't a cutsie kids thing, its really just an alternate controller. The companies aren't really selling out, they're just selling out their core fans. But we'll see how this goes.

I don't get the fuss, if the product doesn't excite you, don't buy it. Or did they announce they were canceling Halo:Reach and Gears of War cause they were just plum tickled with Kinect.

Speaking as someone who doesn't actually own an Xbox, I can't say that the Kinect is making me want to buy one. This is not just because I can't really afford another console, it's because I still want, well, 'proper' games. My faithful PS3 has served me well so far, and Microsoft is going to have to come out with something pretty special (in fact, several somethings pretty special) in the 'core' gaming field (*not* the family/social field) to make me shell out for their product.

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danpascooch:

CORRODED SIN:
"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

How is xbox live having children Microsoft selling out?

Also, if it's true that PSN doesn't (it does) it's only because nobody uses PSN

I didn't say MS sold out because of kids. I said the last thing live needs is more kids. Kinect will invite them. It is going to suck. Sony hasn't sold out because Move really isn't a cutsie kids thing, its really just an alternate controller. The companies aren't really selling out, they're just selling out their core fans. But we'll see how this goes.

I agree that Microsoft is totally selling out with Kinect, the point where are arguments diverge is the idea that Move is any less of a motion control sellout

danpascooch:

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danpascooch:

CORRODED SIN:
"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

How is xbox live having children Microsoft selling out?

Also, if it's true that PSN doesn't (it does) it's only because nobody uses PSN

I didn't say MS sold out because of kids. I said the last thing live needs is more kids. Kinect will invite them. It is going to suck. Sony hasn't sold out because Move really isn't a cutsie kids thing, its really just an alternate controller. The companies aren't really selling out, they're just selling out their core fans. But we'll see how this goes.

I agree that Microsoft is totally selling out with Kinect, the point where are arguments diverge is the idea that Move is any less of a motion control sellout

Let me explain my reasoning for that. (as of yet) I have not seen a kiddie game for the Move. I've only seen like socom and other games like that. Show me a Move kiddie game and I will be 100% with you.

Peter Molyneux still loves us though. And he wants to love Kinect. So who knows.

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danpascooch:

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danpascooch:

CORRODED SIN:
"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

How is xbox live having children Microsoft selling out?

Also, if it's true that PSN doesn't (it does) it's only because nobody uses PSN

I didn't say MS sold out because of kids. I said the last thing live needs is more kids. Kinect will invite them. It is going to suck. Sony hasn't sold out because Move really isn't a cutsie kids thing, its really just an alternate controller. The companies aren't really selling out, they're just selling out their core fans. But we'll see how this goes.

I agree that Microsoft is totally selling out with Kinect, the point where are arguments diverge is the idea that Move is any less of a motion control sellout

Let me explain my reasoning for that. (as of yet) I have not seen a kiddie game for the Move. I've only seen like socom and other games like that. Show me a Move kiddie game and I will be 100% with you.

I see Eyepets, but then again, that just uses the camera, not Move specifically, so it's arguable.

However, in my research I did see an unbelievably higher amount of hardcore gaming uses for Move based on the games they are making for it. Could I have been wrong!? NO! THIS IS THE INTERNET! NEVER ADMIT FAULT!!!

Seriously though, it looks like you're right, or at the very least, much closer to the mark than I was, I thought Move was just another Kinect, looks like it isn't. I still do prefer the 360 over the PS3 though.

danpascooch:

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danpascooch:

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danpascooch:

CORRODED SIN:
"People who play games" aka 90% of the playlist population in MW2. (RIP CoD)

When did you start playing games? When it became cool? Fuck off back to Farmville.

What does Xbox LIVE really need? Oh, I know, more children! Fuck that.

Women aged 25-40 say, "You are welcome, Microsoft, for our continued, relentless product loyalty over the past 9 years." ...wait a minute.

At least Sony hasn't sold out much....YET.

/rant

How is xbox live having children Microsoft selling out?

Also, if it's true that PSN doesn't (it does) it's only because nobody uses PSN

I didn't say MS sold out because of kids. I said the last thing live needs is more kids. Kinect will invite them. It is going to suck. Sony hasn't sold out because Move really isn't a cutsie kids thing, its really just an alternate controller. The companies aren't really selling out, they're just selling out their core fans. But we'll see how this goes.

I agree that Microsoft is totally selling out with Kinect, the point where are arguments diverge is the idea that Move is any less of a motion control sellout

Let me explain my reasoning for that. (as of yet) I have not seen a kiddie game for the Move. I've only seen like socom and other games like that. Show me a Move kiddie game and I will be 100% with you.

I see Eyepets, but then again, that just uses the camera, not Move specifically, so it's arguable.

However, in my research I did see an unbelievably higher amount of hardcore gaming uses for Move based on the games they are making for it. Could I have been wrong!? NO! THIS IS THE INTERNET! NEVER ADMIT FAULT!!!

Seriously though, it looks like you're right, or at the very least, much closer to the mark than I was, I thought Move was just another Kinect, looks like it isn't. I still do prefer the 360 over the PS3 though.

Thank you. I prefer the 360 over the PS3 mainly because of the controller (its just preference), but I think I would like Move more then Kinect. You can use a PS3 controller with Move, so it brings the price down on top of having good games that work with it.

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