Machete vs. The Expendables

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Machete vs. The Expendables

It's a B-movie shootout between Rodriguez and Stallone.

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Come on, it's motherfucking Rodriguez! Versus the shit fest of the year. There's no contest. Rodriguez knows how to make good films, and he definitely knows how to make B-movies.

Some really good points. I will admit though for the first point on plot, at least, you can see your bias bleeding through. I mean you are biased and that's fine but neither of the ploats sound particularly good. The only thing in the article that would make the reader think Machete has a better plot is that you prefer it to the Expendables but there's no reason for it given really. Both of the plots sound fairly terrible (in a brainless action movie kind of way so good in their own right). How you describe the expendables is the difference between me saying LOTR is three movies of people walking and someone else calling it a fantasy epic.

Also, I wonder how many people are going to say "He still won't let go of the Expendables thing? God." even though last week some of those same people were saying "He won't even properly explain why he doesn't like the Expendables. God."

Machete: Danny Trejo slices a bad guy's stomach open, pulls out his large-intestine and uses it as a rope to rappel out a window. No, really! Easily the most awesome movie kill of 2010, and a future "best kills ever" fixture for sure.

Why Bob, Why? Right as I was eating my sub on my lunch break, you throw this on me? No Longer hungry.

Agree on most parts, although I firmly believe Seugal's[sp] time has fully past, action scenes just being the tip of the Iceberg.

This should've been your review of The Expendables. At least now I can see where you're coming from, although that doesn't mean I agree with you in the slightest. Not at all.

JourneyThroughHell:
This should've been your review of The Expendables. At least now I can see where you're coming from, although that doesn't mean I agree with you in the slightest. Not at all.

This article made more sense than the Expendables review atleast... also, Danny Trejo uses a guys intesine to repel out a window? Holy Fuck, I got to see this movie!

Shale_Dirk:
Hopefully this'll shut the Expendables whiners up.

JourneyThroughHell:
This should've been your review of The Expendables. At least now I can see where you're coming from, although that doesn't mean I agree with you in the slightest. Not at all.

Or not.

Thanks a lot for that title you imposed on me.

Just saying, instead of commending the guy for making his point clearer, I could go arguing with everything he said, one point by one. Think about that.

If you want to fight the audience, I humbly suggest a mailbag showdown next time; although the column this week was excellent.

I'd already decided on Machete when I heard Mexican; but I might now see Expendables (on DVD, natch) just to see how it holds up.

JourneyThroughHell:

Thanks a lot for that title you imposed on me.

Just saying, instead of commending the guy for making his point clearer, I could go arguing with everything he said, one point by one. Think about that.

Wait, was that like, a suggestive threat?

Haha, get over yourself. Its the internet.

JourneyThroughHell:
This should've been your review of The Expendables. At least now I can see where you're coming from, although that doesn't mean I agree with you in the slightest. Not at all.

Definitely this.

However, Bob, I'd like to state that this is finally a return to form for you! Be proud! Loved the Machete review, by the by, and so definitely need to see this when it hits the UK. Unless it's an 18. In which case I shall scream to God about the injustice of the world like I always do.

Shale_Dirk:

JourneyThroughHell:

Thanks a lot for that title you imposed on me.

Just saying, instead of commending the guy for making his point clearer, I could go arguing with everything he said, one point by one. Think about that.

Wait, was that like, a suggestive threat?

Haha, get over yourself. Its the internet.

Threat? Haha, what?

I'm just saying that I could've turned my comment in a rant, if I hated his opinion so much.

Also, "it's the Internet"? So what? Does that somehow make you calling me and others "whiners" okay, yet me trying to refute that - not?

Yawn, ridiculous semantics that borderline on un-professionalism. Machete given a "proper" write up in each section, while the movie Bob is determined to lambaste is written off with over typed hyperbole that could be applied to every film you wanted to insult - Machete especially.

It's one thing to criticize a movie, it's a completely other thing to make it a running falsified statement throughout many weeks of what is supposed to be at least a semi-pro show. It makes you, Bob, look uninformed, prejudiced and bigoted.

And this is coming from a person who disliked Expendables.

Atleast Bob is starting to move away from the Expendables, he didnt mention it in the video, so by next week, we all will be back at the status quo.

Shale_Dirk:

JourneyThroughHell:

Thanks a lot for that title you imposed on me.

Just saying, instead of commending the guy for making his point clearer, I could go arguing with everything he said, one point by one. Think about that.

Wait, was that like, a suggestive threat?

Haha, get over yourself. Its the internet.

Threat? He's threatening, what, that he would try and make a rant? Oh no, think of the children!

And I'd have agree with him. Bob brought the expendables up, so that makes it fair for use to bring it up. And while this was still laced with hyperbole, it was a better review of Expendables than his review of Expendables was.

Also, didn't the movie come out today? Either Bob is really fucking fast at making these videos, or they let him see it ahead of time. Lucky...

See, MovieBob, this is essentially what people wanted from you. To leave out the ad hominem and to just clearly and simply explain why you didn't like The Expendables. That's all that was needed.

For the record, I have seen neither Scott Pilgrim nor The Expendables, because I'm just not really interested. If Jason Statham is that underutilized and wasted, then I'll pass.

I love Danny Trejo, so I think I'll give Machete a go.

MovieBob:
The following article contains significant plot-spoilers...

For the love of fans...

LEARN TO NOT USE SPOILERS IN YOUR REVIEWS!

Jeez...
It's not hard, believe me. Everybody can do it. You aren't retarded so should be able to do it also.

JourneyThroughHell:

Shale_Dirk:

Wait, was that like, a suggestive threat?

Haha, get over yourself. Its the internet.

Threat? Haha, what?

I'm just saying that I could've turned my comment in a rant, if I hated his opinion so much.

Also, "it's the Internet"? So what? Does that somehow make you calling me and others "whiners" okay, yet me trying to refute that - not?

People ask for Bob to review The Expendables
Bob reviews The Expendables, people don't like that he didn't like it, and shamed other people for liking it. They demand he gives a further explanation. He clarifies a little in the comment section of the review, and people whine more.
Bob brings up The Expendables the following week to make comparison points to what a good B-movie should be doing, and people whine because he's "digging into the wound". People continue to whine because he doesn't clarify exactly what the issues were with the movie.
Bob writes a column specifically outlining what he doesn't like about the individual components of the movie, and some of the first responses are, "Well if you'd only done that two weeks ago we wouldn't be so mad, but I don't agree", etc.

You disagree with his opinions. Power to you. I'm tired of people complaining like small children, Bob coddling them, and then these same people making a bigger stink and threaten they'll get the internet to turn on him, like they have for the last two weeks.

Refute away, just don't preface it with, "You should have done this".

EgonCom:

MovieBob:
The following article contains significant plot-spoilers...

For the love of fans...

LEARN TO NOT USE SPOILERS IN YOUR REVIEWS!

Jeez...
It's not hard, believe me. Everybody can do it. You aren't retarded so should be able to do it also.

This isn't a review. It's a discussion of the movie. Harder to discuss a movie without talking about the plot.

ok im getting really really bored of expenables bashing...is there really a point?
we know you dont like, but keep trying to tell yourself its this bad isnt going to convince us that like it its bad...

why not review other movies rather than keep going on about not liking it, tbh i dont feel in the mood to look at anymore of this crap...

EgonCom:

MovieBob:
The following article contains significant plot-spoilers...

For the love of fans...

LEARN TO NOT USE SPOILERS IN YOUR REVIEWS!

Jeez...
It's not hard, believe me. Everybody can do it. You aren't retarded so should be able to do it also.

Or you could go see the movie then come back and read the article?
Also, that's what she said.

Bob, had you posted this as your Expendables review I highly, highly doubt you'd have been flamed as much as you were. This, while still a lambasting, at least had context.

Angron:
ok im getting really really bored of expenables bashing...is there really a point?
we know you dont like, but keep trying to tell yourself its this bad isnt going to convince us that like it its bad...

why not review other movies rather than keep going on about not liking it, tbh i dont feel in the mood to look at anymore of this crap...

He's discussing it to try to clarify why he didn't like it. A lot of people kept asking him to explain his point further, so he did.

MovieBob:
Machete vs. The Expendables

It's a B-movie shootout between Rodriguez and Stallone.

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You are a genius. I want you to know that. Don't let the rest of those assholes get to you when they complain that you called them idiots. You have every right to feel the basic human emotion of anger and more so to blame those who deserve it. Good work this week Bob!

if this had been the review for expendables, i could have easily respected your opinion on it, no matter how much i disagree with it, your bias is seen a little bit, but decently hidden so this was a decent article to read and compare to

hell i might give machete a look, i thought it looked like a bad B movie, but who knows i might enjoy it.

Zeeky_Santos:

MovieBob:
Machete vs. The Expendables

It's a B-movie shootout between Rodriguez and Stallone.

Read Full Article

You are a genius. I want you to know that. Don't let the rest of those assholes get to you when they complain that you called them idiots. You have every right to feel the basic human emotion of anger and more so to blame those who deserve it. Good work this week Bob!

Hell I knew Machete was gunna be awesome when I saw the fake trailer. No need for this Article, this could have been decided with three words: Cheech... priest... shotguns.

Lol @ people crying.

I saw trailers for both movies before watching these reviews and Machete left way more of an impression than "The Expendables" every did.

Great read anyway.

EgonCom:

MovieBob:
The following article contains significant plot-spoilers...

For the love of fans...

LEARN TO NOT USE SPOILERS IN YOUR REVIEWS!

Jeez...
It's not hard, believe me. Everybody can do it. You aren't retarded so should be able to do it also.

So you have to wait until you see the movie to read it. Boo hoo. Get over yourself.

If a person is to have a serious discussion comparing the elements of two things that appear similar on the surface, they have to get specific at times for their analysis to have any credibility. An argument is worthless without doing so. I'm under the assumption that you have the benefit of also not being retarded, and should be able to understand this.

Bob, maybe you cannot convince other people to think like you and you should stop trying? If you had not come out and attacked the fans of the Expendables instead of just saying you did not like the movie, maybe the whole mess never would have gotten so out of hand. Maybe you might not have to keep discussing the movie if you stopped trying to get the last word. Someone is always going to answer any point you try to make about it, so you will never get the last word. I think there IS some truth to the accusation you attacked the Expendables because of Scott Pilgrim. The fact is Scott Pilgrim failed because of Scott Pilgrim, not because another movie killed it. Let the people like what they like and do not try to tell them they are wrong Like what YOU like and tell us WHY. When you try to make it a battle, you will lose because there will always be more people that are not you than there are people that are you. Like they say, when it's you against the world, bet on the world.
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Honestly, now that I've seen the Expendables, I got to agree. It was a total crap-fest and a complete waste of everyone's (And by that, I mean the Actors, the Crew and the Consumer's time).

EgonCom:

MovieBob:
The following article contains significant plot-spoilers...

For the love of fans...

LEARN TO NOT USE SPOILERS IN YOUR REVIEWS!

Jeez...
It's not hard, believe me. Everybody can do it. You aren't retarded so should be able to do it also.

....It'd be very difficult to compare those moments unless he did that, besides, this is an article, not a review. Just don't read it if you really wanna watch Machete that badly.

Zeeky_Santos:

MovieBob:
Machete vs. The Expendables

It's a B-movie shootout between Rodriguez and Stallone.

Read Full Article

You are a genius. I want you to know that. Don't let the rest of those assholes get to you when they complain that you called them idiots. You have every right to feel the basic human emotion of anger and more so to blame those who deserve it. Good work this week Bob!

I don't agree that people are a-holes that voiced their opinion and outrage over being called idiots. And to be honest that's not all he said to get people upset, it was an abusive thing to say and was unnecessary for a movie review. I want you to stop a moment and look at any other movie critic/reviewer articles to see if they attacked the audience of the movie. The audience does not deserve his ire.

A proper critic does not factor in their personal feelings in a review. However, Moviebob did a point-by-point analysis here, and for that he's done great work rebuilding his reputation. For his comments in Escape to the movies, he deserves no praise or support.

In reality, I think they are both just as bad as each other in terms of movies...and, prolly be a dead heat

As excited as I was about Expendables(and trust me I was bouncin off the walls in excitement) and I have yet to see it(and I was just as excited about the A-Team movie) I think I'll likewise give this one a pass infavor of Rob Rod's B movie bloodbath

JourneyThroughHell:
This should've been your review of The Expendables. At least now I can see where you're coming from, although that doesn't mean I agree with you in the slightest. Not at all.

That, pretty much.

Bob, you say some good stuff, but please, for the love of god shut up about The Expendables. You'll be better of in the long run and we can forget the whole mess ever happened.

This sums up WHY I could give a fuck less about Stallone's eg- I mean, The Expendables. In two weeks I would have forgotten about the damn thing, if that (I had Metroid: Other M anyway) due to Machet's INSANE beats. It's quite clear that Stallone's talent as an action director is severely limited at best; trying the shaky-cam thing in a movie like this doesn't work unless you know what the hell you're doing. Plus Stallone's writing peaked at First Blood and his considerable talents just continued to atrophy (which is mostly his own damn fault, the fool). Now that Bob (and hopefully EVERYONE ELSE) has gotten this out of their system we can move on to more constructive things...like plowing through various types of aliens.

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