Zero Punctuation: Metroid Other M

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Pretty spot on review! Oddly enough, I already went out and bought the Metroid Prime Trilogy just to get over Other M.

Jark:
Any ideas as to what the "Special Episode" mentioned at the very end will be centered around?

Duke Nukem Forever, maybe. Although how he got hold of a copy way before its release is a mystery, so it's a long shot.

GloatingSwine:

Hubilub:

Of course, as GloatingSwine pointed out, Fusion became much more open towards the end of the game when you had all the power-ups and could go scout for upgrades, but the fact that it started of very linear is what I think Yahtzee had in mind when saying that Other M was more linear than Fusion.

It's not just that. It's that you can sequence break in Fusion. Not as much as in the other games (especially Super Metroid), but you can still try and do things in the wrong order, and deliberately skip items and upgrades in order to provide more challenge. (there are special ending screens for particularly low item runs).

Hu. I didn't know that.

You have given me another reason to replay my favorite handheld game!

Where did I put my Advance SP?

Brian Blessed you say?

I WOULD APPROVE!!

*coughcough*
This definitely made me laugh good and plenty, which is certainly an achievement, considering my nature.

BlueInkAlchemist:
So the best way to enjoy a game that's trying not to be an FPS is to play an FPS? Huh.

When was Samus established as having a "bold, independent spirit"? I don't remember that being mentioned at all in any of the games other than the fact that you, the player, are controlling her and she's completely alone. She blindly followed our orders even if it meant smacking into a wall repeatedly when our phones rang or falling into an acid pit when we mis-judged a jump she probably could have handled were she in control of her own body.

I'm sorry, but your logic is just stupid. That's like saying Gordon Freeman is actually a bad guy, because I like to throw grenades at the feet of NPC teammates and watch them die. Or that because I once spent an afternoon throwing Mario into a pit over and over, he never saves the princess and is completely incompetent.

Story and gameplay segregation dude.

Hubilub:

GloatingSwine:

Hubilub:

Of course, as GloatingSwine pointed out, Fusion became much more open towards the end of the game when you had all the power-ups and could go scout for upgrades, but the fact that it started of very linear is what I think Yahtzee had in mind when saying that Other M was more linear than Fusion.

It's not just that. It's that you can sequence break in Fusion. Not as much as in the other games (especially Super Metroid), but you can still try and do things in the wrong order, and deliberately skip items and upgrades in order to provide more challenge. (there are special ending screens for particularly low item runs).

Hu. I didn't know that.

You have given me another reason to replay my favorite handheld game!

Where did I put my Advance SP?

There's actually an area where you can find a message left explicitly for people who pull off a particularly difficult sequence break... I've also head Prime has some nice ones, including getting the Space Jump first.

BlueInkAlchemist:
Not that I myself would ever do such a thing.

Funny? Yes. Accurate? No idea. I'm too poor to own a Wii. But I find myself kinda confused by all of the hatred. Maybe it's just me.

I note that you made the link to Ripley, but here's the thing, Ripley got to be a human and well realised character, got to show human attachment (again, it was already there in Alien in the camaraderie of the crew) without turning into a broken bird that needed Daddy to protect her, Ripley was the protector. Even in Alien 3, where her character was about as broken down as it was going to get (Some might try and tell you they made a fourth Alien movie, but they are clearly mad), she was still ready to face down her personal demon.

And she didn't whine about it on her blog like Samus does in Other M.

If the person who wrote the story for this had watched Aliens a few times, we might have got a significantly better character.

Hubilub:

GloatingSwine:

Hubilub:

Of course, as GloatingSwine pointed out, Fusion became much more open towards the end of the game when you had all the power-ups and could go scout for upgrades, but the fact that it started of very linear is what I think Yahtzee had in mind when saying that Other M was more linear than Fusion.

It's not just that. It's that you can sequence break in Fusion. Not as much as in the other games (especially Super Metroid), but you can still try and do things in the wrong order, and deliberately skip items and upgrades in order to provide more challenge. (there are special ending screens for particularly low item runs).

Hu. I didn't know that.

You have given me another reason to replay my favorite handheld game!

Where did I put my Advance SP?

It's possible to complete the game collecting 1% of the available items.

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Fronzel:

Then what the hell is sustaining your relentless Nintendo fanboyism? Why are you so gentle and forgiving to the slightest smell of bullshit coming from a Wii title?

*spoiler alert*
Well, its pretty obvious that a ps3/xbox fanboy would think the game is bad.
I personally wouldn't go so far as to say its perfect, but it's far from bad. The whole authorization was stupid, and true, you had to have some level of dexterity aside from button mashing to use missles adeptly without taking damage. In fact, it's safe to say someone that doesn't play WoW or Halo almost daily would probably say those games suck, whining that they 'can't do it'. The thing I have a problem with is how many stupid people can't seem to figure out who the traitor is. James was a suspect since he planted the bomb, and he was found dead in the room where you left MB, that room being the BRC. I believe the thing sustaining nintendo fanboyism is not having the need to 'feel' like an adult buy playing games that make you think you're being a bad ass by shooting people and swearing. I like to think that people play games because they like them, not because all your sissy friends think it cool, and that you're lame for not playing it. Then again, sheep don't really have control over their lives, do they?

se7ensenses:
Nintendo- making the same game over & over & over since 1985. The broken record of the gaming industry.

Have you even played Other M?!

Finally a ZP on an interesting game.

The whole deal about not getting to use your upgrades until your boyfriend tells you is pretty bad. They couldn't come up with a better way to handle the powerup issue?

I would have prefered any of the following:
1) Just reuse the whole idea where you get your powers drained by some event/enemy in the beginning. Its been done before but as long as the rest of the plot is solid nobody will care.
2) Samus got the Hyper gun at the end of super metroid which was insanely powerful. Maybe after the end of the game this gun burned out all of her powerups. Maybe it destroyed the functions of her suit and she had to repair it / get a new one. In this case I wouldn't even mention it up front, it could be in a note or something thats easily missable. Players would ask why she doesn't have her powerups from the last game and this would be a nice little piece of trivia for gamefaqs forum nerds to talk about.
3) Or just make her start out without her powerups and just not explain it at all. Its more of a gameplay issue than a story issue and could easily just be ignored rather then having to find a way to shoehorn the issue into the story and create a completely retarded scenario where samus walks into a hostile environment without protection just because her boyfriend hasn't said its ok. When I played Xenosaga episode 2 I didn't ask why my characters were all level 1 again and didn't have all of their powerful attacks from the first game.
4) Maybe you start with the plasma beam but its the weakest gun in this game. Upgrade further from that. You would still need an explanation for bombs and missiles and such.

Does this also mean that you get all of your major powerups on a linear path? What about finding secret items? Is it setup so that if you find a secret room then he will call you and tell you its ok to use the wave beam now?

I've been considering getting this game and this review has been very helpful. It sounds like the story was pretty awful but I might have to try it anyway for educational purposes.

You know usually I feel like you're too harsh to what is probably an alright game, even when you justify your points entirely well. This reviews marks one of the few times the game is literally as bad as you say it is. I wasted 40 on this shit pile of a game so it was incredibly satisfying to watch you agree with every single thing I picked up on when playing it.

"...the bloated cancerous mass of the story's atrocity overshadows everything else". Best way to describe this game ever.

I'm curious to know if anyone has heard how this game was received by japan.

No one thinks much of this game, including myself. As it should be.

Hopefully now Nintendo will knock off the bullcrap of letting Team Ninja develop a game that goes against their innate need to make the female characters 90% tits and 10% kicking.

Let's see... Yahtzee hates it, Spoony hates it, Socksmakepeoplesexy.net hates it...

Well, Moviebob likes it. At least someone's on my side.

i usually never agree with your bashing (i watch it just for giggles) but this video was filled with giggles and JUSTICE.

Calibanbutcher:
Best review in a long time.
I literally laughed out loud.
Shame on me for saying that

This. A really good one. I almost stoped to be his fan.

Crono Maniac:
Let's see... Yahtzee hates it, Spoony hates it, Socksmakepeoplesexy.net hates it...

Well, Moviebob likes it. At least someone's on my side.

Im not trying to bash or anything, Im actually Bobs fan but sometimes he appears to me like he just wants to have different oppinion then everyone else for any price.

Heh...and this is what happenes when you outsource what was a respectable francise heh

Is it just me or has nintendo killed it's idea bucket and are making it's own games worse and worse?

if you ask me I say the only reason the Wii is still alive is because of SEGA (MadWorld, Conduit, Arguably the day levels of Unleashed) and Ubisoft (No More Heroes 1 + 2, Red Steel 2)

I wonder if that new Zelda game will bring it back to life or if the wii is still on life support...

Great review, though it really was story-heavy. I guess with Metroid games you know what to expect from the gameplay. Hope the Friday ZP rocks as much as this one did.

Jaredin:
Heh...and this is what happenes when you outsource what was a respectable francise heh

Oddly, the Metroid Prime games are also what happens when you outsource a respectable franchise. F-Zero GX & AX were also handed over to Sega to produce, and it turned out to be a fantastic racer. The same folks that made Metroid Prime are doing the new 2D sidescrolling Donkey Kong Country, too. Handing games to other developers isn't at all a bad practice, you just have to be careful who you hand it to.

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Snip

Now this comes tricky defining what kind of standard Nintendo failing this is. They generally come in two types, the "Lets try something completely different" kind (Mario Sunshine, Starfox adventures) and the "lets make the same money train again without change" (Super Mario Sluggers). Well on the one hand this is a different set up from the Prime games with more traditional 2D platforming and 3D fighting plus making Samus talk, but it could also be said that is just Super Metroid Prime with a talking Samus and a flip to screen FPS mode.

Which would you classify it as?

$5 that the special review involves Rebecca Mayes.

^_^

Metroid is a girl? :P

I disagree with his claim that Kojima's writing is worse (he's long-winded and quirky, sure, but he still makes interesting if convoluted plots with mostly likable characters), but otherwise he gives a pretty accurate description of the game.

So, yes the controls would be fixed if they incorporated the nunchuck, yes the switch to first person sucks balls, yes the story telling may be atrocious. But, was it fun? I got to play the demo at pax where the guy running it reminded me of Shia LaDouche where he went, "No no no no no no no no," or, "Ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya," every other minute. I think he hates me now because I was kinda pointing out that it was incredible stupid not to use something you have (nunchuck). But, after 2 hours of waiting because people are inherently bad at that game, I blaze through the whole demo in about 10 mins, and I had fun playing it. They went with a fast pace approach where it's fun if you're trying to do a speed run, which is refreshing after the Prime series.

All in all, I still might get the game (on ebay for 10 bucks) because I did have fun.

On a side note, the people who did the prime series are now doing the new Donkey Kong Country ='( . I recommended that game to my coworker just because the person who's going to be playing it is 9 and I'm pretty sure that's the only age that is going to have fun with the new one.

On another side note, please hate the game more so the ebay price will drop faster, thank you.

~Rahl

SirBryghtside:

se7ensenses:
Nintendo- making the same game over & over & over since 1985. The broken record of the gaming industry.

Have you even played Other M?!

Hell, has he even played Metroid Prime?

Mr. Shoggoth:

Hubilub:

team star pug:

Hubilub:
Oh my. Could this be one of the few times where people don't comment before watching the video?

IT'S A MIRACLE!

EDIT: "And it's a lot smaller and more linear than, say, Metroid Fusion"

I see what you did there

I do not. I remember metroid fusion being a 2d sidescroller for the gba but I don't get the joke.

OT moreso: He didn't review reach so I can only imagine he was dumbstruck by how good it was. (in joke). I bet his review of reach will be something I don't agree with (I like reach) but still ind hilariuos

Metroid Fusion was, at least before Other M came out, the most linear Metroid game.

The obvious difference here is that Fusion was loved by everyone.
But I doubt Yahtzee was going for a joke there. It's just a fact that Other M is the most linear entry in the series.

Ohhohohoho.
You would be surprised my Good man.
I know people who hate Fusion only for the reason that Samus is given a Clear Objective.
Even though on the way to the Objective there is plenty of Room to explore a bit.

Ot:I laughed.
Metroid:OM does have its flaws, but the ones pointed out in the Video are the worst ones, and a few Exaggerated Times 10.
I don't remember seeing Samus's Ass every 10 seconds.
But funny jokes are still funny.
Though it gonna be interesting to see where the series goes now, maybe a 3rd person Metroid Prime:Hunters?

Is Metroid such a guaranteed sell that Nintendo wouldn't care about how its story was handled?
Do game designers really think audiences are foolish enough not to notice atrocious storytelling and ham-handled gameplay elements?

Pandora92:
You just summed up exactly why I'm steering well clear of the game, Samus always just worked as a silent protagonist in the same way that Gordan Freeman does, giving her a voice was dodgy enough without doing it in such a plain and overdone way with a boring stereotypical story. :|

Then again, it is possible to give a silent protagonist a voice... look at Jak.

com'on Yahtzee; Tell us what you really think!

i think its been several episodes of ZP since i literally loughed out loud (i LOVE zp though) but i lol'd several times at this new one. and my sibling got this game and hasnt quite loved it so i was interested.

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