Zero Punctuation: Video Game Voters Network

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Excellent Stuff yahtzee, you summed up the subject Beautifully,
I will do my bit to help!

At least if gaming is under threat, maybe this is the kick up the arse game developers need to grow up and start telling some really compelling and meaning games.

Anyway,

Will do my Bit to help the cause! ^_^

Fangobra:
I was with Yahtzee up until he mentioned free speech. Only stupid Americans pretend they have free speech anymore and even then they can all see they don't, it's just in their constitution.

Free speech is something that on paper sounded like a good idea, but in practice really doesn't work and just has unfortunate consequences for people who try to exercise it.

You know what else sounded like a good idea on paper but in practice really doesn't work and just has unfortunate consequences for people who try to exercise it? Communism. Athankyew.

Can I smack you? Really really hard?

Free Speech simply means the right to say what you think.

As for communism, you are aware a true communist state has never existed, correct? How about instead of following the media around like a lapdog you do your research? Every single country that has claimed to be communist was actually a blend between fascism and socialism - NOT communism. Communism can't be "created" nor "enforced" but you wouldn't know that because you couldn't be bothered to pick up the damn Communist Manifesto and read it. Communism can only come about on it's own once ALL the world's workers are exploited.

If people stopped believing everything they were told in school and did their own research, the world would be a better place.

Also the Constitution does not say free speech, what it does say is this:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Ike Jager:
If you can't vote, that's no excuse to just sit on your lazy asses. Do what Yahtzee did, spread the word! Tell all your friends to spread the word untill it's known worldwide. American Government doesn't like being printed as bad. Now, I want to see tons of VGVN banners on facebook!

I don't use facebook so no :p.

Been a member, not an ACTIVE member but still a member, since fall of 08.

SirBryghtside:
Wait, ZP on a Friday? THIS IS MADNESS!

Anyway, I'm British, so apparently have no ay in the matter.

Madness, THIS IS YAHTZEE!!!!!!!!!

OT: UK so I cant really help, just hope we dont jump on the Us bandwagon.

I agree with Yahtzee this could determine the future of video games

I would've appreciated this more if not for the F*CKING COMMERCIAL to start the vid. You'd think a PSA would be ad-free. Maybe I'm deluded or something. The funny part is that the ad is for an M-rated game. Oh the irony.

Nice video from Yahtzee though! :)

Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that Yahtzee is from the UK and and lives in Australia, both of which have laws that banning the sale mature rated videogames to children. Yet somehow both counties have managed to conduct free and fair elections and so no signs of becoming dictatorships. Odd that.

John the Gamer:
Awwwww. Is that it? And I don't even live in America...(Netherlands)

Same here. At least the Netherlands have another convenient target in election years...

Yahtzee wants you! (to make him lunch)

funny how I was too lazy to do this til Yahtzee told me to.

He has too much power.

I'm in the UK, where we ban(ned two) video games (and unban them six to twelve months later).

XD besides all the crap in my beloved Latinamerica
THANK GOD POLITICS HERE STILL DONīT KNOW WHAT A VIDEOGAME IS... sad but true

Are there any sites that want to do the same but world wide???

albino boo:
Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that Yahtzee is from the UK and and lives in Australia, both of which have laws that banning the sale mature rated videogames to children. Yet somehow both counties have managed to conduct free and fair elections and so no signs of becoming dictatorships. Odd that.

The US has a lot more influence on what games get both made and sold the world over than the UK or Australia do. If games with mature content face legalized sale restrictions then less places will sell them (particularly the big guns like WalMart), and if less places sell them then less games with mature content will be created. And, of course, based on the approach being used in this law, exactly what constitutes "mature content" is not likely to just stop at obvious blood gore and sex. Gamers everywhere should be watching this issue closely and offering whatever support they can.

Sosa Star:
Tis better to light a small candle then to curse the darkness, as the saying goes, I'll head to the site cause if it happenes to the americans, canada will follow like the little sheep we are

Curses that had not crossed my mind. VOTE AMERICAN! If not for the constitution do t for your northern brethren.

Glad evil, stupid America has a Constitution, unlike Britain, and that our Constitution has a Bill of Rights to guarantee us those rights, unlike Australia's Constitution.

albino boo:
Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that Yahtzee is from the UK and and lives in Australia, both of which have laws that banning the sale mature rated videogames to children. Yet somehow both counties have managed to conduct free and fair elections and so no signs of becoming dictatorships. Odd that.

Nobody has said that it will automatically lead to the downfall of society. What it very well could lead to is the downfall of art. Imagine if during the Renaissance the pope just declared that paintings turned people into the devil. That's an entire section of western culture and art wiped out because a grumpy old man said so.

so should i still go if i am Canadian?

GOD DAMMIT I'm americans only >:(

Being a Brit none of this effects me, crazy yanks and their wierd laws.

Only problem is that a case is going before the Supreme Court deciding this matter, so really we don't get a vote on it anyway.

Senators petitioned! I despise censorship in all it's forms.

Heh, figures it would be about a political link =.=

Yea... Kind of not of voting age yet. But I did sign up.

I don't live in America, I live in Canada. However, if I did, I'd be all over this.

already liked it on Facebook, all i can do :(

Question...What happens if this Law Passes in America? Restrictions on games or something?

I like how when these kinds of things come up no one can ever be assed to have a link in the description or initial post.

Hopefully this will expand into an international voters bloc, the same way say environmentalism has broadly speaking a unified political view.

Otherwise this'll just be another abbreviation group in America that did something and has no impact in the media or politics of other English speaking countries (never mind the one's that don't speach Yahtzeetongue). In Ireland this stuff doesn't get picked up in the newspapers or the 6 o clock news (further proof of underrepesentation perhaps?)

I hope the groups ambition does entend that way. If it happens I want to be told. As it is, all I can do is support the local branch of the Pirate Party in the EU, but their platform is solely intellectual property reform, which is at most tangental to the prevention of demonising of computer game playing voters.

The gamers I have most in common with politically don't necessarily live in my constituency; hell just look at the list of "best wishes but I don't live in the US" posts above and below mine. And even then I've no doubt my views on the pirate party aren't shared with all my friends; but if the VGVN is serious about making an impact it needs to find or establish its equivalents abroad.

They could do a lot worse than the email the student unions of universities and colleges with courses that teach both politics and programming courses.

"Just because games aren't boring doesn't mean they're different to books"

Triple negative FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Is anyone else kinda ashamed that one of the political activists of games makes his money via obscure references and knob jokes?

John the Gamer:
Awwwww. Is that it? And I don't even live in America...(Netherlands)

2nded

fuck you legislation. video games ARE art! Putting a big sticker on the cover and saying people shouldnt play them is like saying people shouldnt follow their culture! WE ARE THE NEW GENERATION!

ps armed uprising anyone? :D

Although I'm all for political activism in general, I think that the ruckus concerning this Supreme Court case is blown a bit out of proportion. After all this is practically the same Court which in April in an 8 to 1 decision struck down a federal ban on videos of dog and cock fighting in spite of the fact that such fights are illegal to conduct in all 50 states. And in another 1st amendment case earlier in year the Supreme Court struck down federal laws regulating corporate financing of political campaigns, finding that corporate donations count as "free speech" under the first amendment.

Both of these laws had wide support among Americans. But they were struck down because they violated the 1st amendment. In fact besides traditional restrictions on free speech related to libel, slander and inciting panic there is only one form of speech which the Supreme Court has ever said it was ok to ban completely: child pornography. And even that wasn't a unanimous decision. For better or worse the United States has the most liberal free speech laws in the world, and our Supreme Court has traditionally recognized and honored that.

In short, I'm almost positive that California and the other states supporting this lawsuit are going to get their asses handed to them.

HERE HERE! ALL RALLY BEHIND SIR CRAWSHAW! HE SHALL LEAD US TO FREEDOM!
*coughs*
I'll get to that signing on thing then...

De Ronneman:

John the Gamer:
Awwwww. Is that it? And I don't even live in America...(Netherlands)

Same here. At least the Netherlands have another convenient target in election years...

Shut up. That blond monkey (no offence intended) can't do shit. we've got a contitution and such, wich is there to prevent weird ideas from breaking through in the government and becoming laws that discriminate certain religious/cultural/foreign groups. (again, this is just a blunt comment with no offence intended. If anyone feels offended then you should have yourself checked by a professional crazy-person-checker or a psychologist or something, wichever you prefer.)

Looks like someones been watching Extra Credits.
Reguardless! Onward to VGVN!

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