Review: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

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Review: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

Am I the only one who still misses Kyle Katarn?

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If only he was actually "on the fun from his former master". Oh how I agree with this. Should have been good, but isn't. At all. It is a trial in self inflicted pain.

EDIT: I miss Kyle too.

I'll probably try this out when my brother inevitably buys it.

I just hope they fixed the stupid 'force shields' and that we don't get another disgustingly bad quick time event... *shudder* it was so horrible.

Go play Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast instead. It may be eight years old but it's still better at being what The Force Unleashed is trying to be.

Amen to that, I just played through it a couple months ago. Heck, there are even full multiplayer servers after all these years.

Also, twin lightsaber all the way. All those double lightsaber chumps are just trying to move spam you to death. But the twin lightsaber... that is the dance of death baby.

Steve Butts:
Review: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

Am I the only one who still misses Kyle Katarn?

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For what it's worth, whenever I play Knights of the Old Republic, my Jedi always takes the Duelist talents.

Because yes, I only ever use one Lightsaber.

OT: Yeah, as much as I was looking forward to this game, ( And god I really was, I WANTED it to be good ), after I tried the demo, from what you're saying this is exactly what I expected it to be. It felt like a cash grab.

I think that problem is partly with Starkiller. How the hell do you sustain someone that powerful in that universe? He'd fit better in the Old Republic where you could have him against any number of other, somewhat similarly powerful adversaries and in so doing, GIVE him a challenge! But even in the demo when Starkiller is running from Vader, I kept thinking, "Dude. You destroyed Vader last time you guys met, why the hell are you running?" And it just completely broke immersion for me.

Ah well.

Elementlmage:

Go play Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast instead. It may be eight years old but it's still better at being what The Force Unleashed is trying to be.

Amen to that, I just played through it a couple months ago. Heck, there are even full multiplayer servers after all these years.

I plan on getting my Dark Forces fix on Steam for Christmas. Perhaps the best series of Star Wars games ever. And Kyle Katarn? There will never be another. Especially when he starts rocking the beard.

Usually I don't rise up to 'Am I the only one who...' lines, because I find them far too overbearing. But in your case, and considering the topic, I'll make an exception.

No. You are certainly not the only one. Kyle Katarn still holds up for me as probably my all time favourite Jedi. I still remember when me and my brother finally got the lightsaber how we took turns at the controls at taking swings at those stones and then the bar fight...man was that epic. The only two Jedi characters that can really compete with him are Zayne Carrick from the KOTOR comics and just maybe Obi-Wan...but other than that...naw. Kyle was the man...and his Bryar Pistol too. :)

That said, I actually like TFU's story...it actually went pretty damn well. But yeah...I mean...after taking on Vader and the Emperor in the final battles...I agree, I can't see how TFU 2's boss fights could really get any kind of rise out of me at this point. Plus I kinda liked TFU's ending - that you die, but through your death you allow the Alliance to be born. Story could've ended right there and then as far as I'm concerned but whelp... *shrug*

Wow, i thought i was the only one who missed Kyle Katarn

Yeah, the beginning of Jedi Outcast is so obnoxious but once you get the lightsaber... it doesn't get any better than that.

Good review but yeah, there's a typo in the first paragraph:].

I miss Kyle as well. What ever happened to that style of Star Wars game? Jedi outcast II was the first real game I ever bought. I played the game to death. I can't say how many times I replayed it. Why can't they take the style from that game at least. Eight years old and it still beats the crap out of the Force Unleashed.

I found the graphics really good and sound was great too.. rest of the actual game was crap. All you had to do was spam the one force bolt attack over and over and it cleared groups of stormtroopers with ease.

Game is lame

BlueberryMUNCH:
Good review but yeah, there's a typo in the first paragraph:].

What? He's not on the fun from his former master?

Steve Butts:
Am I the only one who still misses Kyle Katarn?

No, you are not. And you are also not the only one sick of all the "Dual Wielded Lightsabers BRO!" crap that's been getting more and more pervasive in anything Star Wars related.

I still love it regardless. It's an incredibly fun game.

I'm also one of those oddballs that ranks the original Force Unleashed right below Knights of the Old Republic. :P

I never liked the jedi one bit to begin with. THey are boring invincible heroes imho... thee only thing that can be seen as a threat to them are only other jedis or random god-like warriors.

Im more likely to cheer when a basic stromtrooper do something smart (like not engaging a jedi in melee with his gun, use cover ect), than seeing a jedi do another of his more or less flashy trick to win the day.. again.

Then again, the only SW game i liked was Battlefront2 when i was playing as a clone trooper with my friend.

The setting, scale, and art was wonderful. The combat options themselves were solid, if a bit sluggish to what I would prefer. The story and actual game flow...pretty mediocre to bad. This game seems ripe to be an example of bad design decisions that just ruin a solid premise.

Huh, and with the first game it was the cruddy controls yet great story that drove the game.

Interesting.

I wouldn't say the older Jedi games were that great comparably...

but I feel like FU2 fixes some things (gameplay mainly) that FU1 failed at, even if it did lose some other things tho

Jandau:

Steve Butts:
Am I the only one who still misses Kyle Katarn?

No, you are not. And you are also not the only one sick of all the "Dual Wielded Lightsabers BRO!" crap that's been getting more and more pervasive in anything Star Wars related.

Dual Wielded Lightsabers aren't really that much of a problem for me and neither are the doublebladed ones for that matter. Then again, I guess it could stem from me loving the 2D Clone Wars Assaj Ventress fight with Anakin so damn much.

Nah, it's the 'reverse lightsaber hold' that rattles my begonias. Aight fine...I guess Starkiller started it so it's aight if he uses it...but when you start seeing Revan using it on the recent SWTOR timeline vids...it kinda starts to REALLY irk you that they'd begin to assign it to all the 'really badass' Jedi and Sith from now on heh...yeah, I sure hope they don't. ;)

You can't be more badass than Kyle Katarn, no matter how many lightsabers you have...

also....Starkiller? really? Obi wan, Luke and Starkiller? Is he 12yo and was allowed to choose his own name, i mean...the next dark lord will be Darth Sithroxx0r if it continues this way ^^

One thing the "Video review supplement" showed me, was during the space battle scene. There's a rebel transport. What is that doing in a space battle? And why is it just sitting there doing nothing. It's half-way behind the frontline and if my memory of the expanded universe is true then that transport should AT LEAST be trying to land on some planet nearby.

For gosh sakes the things are hardly even armed! Much less built for a large scale space skirmish with star destroyers and the like.

BlueInkAlchemist:

Elementlmage:

Go play Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast instead. It may be eight years old but it's still better at being what The Force Unleashed is trying to be.

Amen to that, I just played through it a couple months ago. Heck, there are even full multiplayer servers after all these years.

I plan on getting my Dark Forces fix on Steam for Christmas. Perhaps the best series of Star Wars games ever. And Kyle Katarn? There will never be another. Especially when he starts rocking the beard.

I still think the JK games still remain the best experience of combat as a Jedi, at least in terms of an action game (KOTOR was pretty damn good). I've just played TFU for the first time (admittedly on the Wii) but the combat in Jedi Outcast and Academy has so much more fluency and grace. The lightsaber actually felt like a weapon with weight and power, unlike the magic glowsticks that Starkiller carries. The fights in TFU feel like their driven by set animations, whereas those in Jedi Knight are driven by the player's skill.
It also helps that JK has great main character. Kyle could fight off the apprentice with his shoelaces tied together wielding the stun baton from the starting levels of Outcast. And blindfolded.

Fabian Stetter:
You can't be more badass than Kyle Katarn, no matter how many lightsabers you have...

also....Starkiller? really? Obi wan, Luke and Starkiller? Is he 12yo and was allowed to choose his own name, i mean...the next dark lord will be Darth Sithroxx0r if it continues this way ^^

Actually his name is Galen Marek... i think

Glad this game sucked. I hate the Starkiller character, I hate this story, I hate everything that has to do with ramping up Jedi powers. They keep making them more and more powerful and stupid. Before Jedi were vulnerable, they had weaknesses, and even the best of them could go down to a well placed shot or explosion. For some reason Lucas Arts seems to love pandering to fanboys who think that Jedi should be unstoppable Juggernauts that can't be taken down. Same goes for Mandalorians, who were cool, and are now getting overhyped.

The Star Wars Universe needs to be toned down a lot, and bring things back to a low roar. The whole reason the first story was Epic was because they were small not so powerful people doing big things!!!! Making things more powerful doesn't equate to more epic Lucas, and LucasArts, please learn that.

Edit: Go back and read up on your Joseph Campbell and then try again.

Steve Butts:
Am I the only one who still misses Kyle Katarn?

Every time there's a topic about SW games I always mention Kyle Katarn. He's the best SW character ever created. He's actually likable and his actions make sense which is not something you often see in SW universe.

Steve Butts:

Am I the only one who still misses Kyle Katarn?

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Ahem.

Seriously though, I can't believe they fucked this up. I would slay a mermaid for KotOR 3 (not that I'm not looking forward to TOR in it's own right, but it's not the same). Let's face it, when it comes to Star Wars games Lucas Arts should only be allowed to lease the license, not make anything from it. Their development studio is simply sub-par.

I played the demo and wasn't really impressed. It looked good but it just raised the question, 'why does my lightsaber cut off limbs now?'

Really my biggest issue (feel free to call me a fanboy for this) is that you can't use the Jedi Mind Trick to make someone kill themselves. Half the time I used it, the Stormtroopers would jump off of platforms. It's cool to get them to fight for you but there's no way (in the demo at least) of getting them to fight for you all the time.

FlameUnquenchable:
The Star Wars Universe needs to be toned down a lot, and bring things back to a low roar. The whole reason the first story was Epic was because they were small not so powerful people doing big things!!!! Making things more powerful doesn't equate to more epic Lucas, and LucasArts, please learn that.

Remember in the first movie when most people didn't even believe in the Force?

Makes you wonder how they managed that when you can apparently see a Jedi pulling spaceships out of orbit wherever you go.

Huh, I'm a bit shocked really, I played the demo and the game seemed to hold a lot of promise. I do get the feeling that maybe you're being a bit harsh for whatever reason but I think you've put me off buying despite that. I'll rent and if it's good I'll get it when the price comes down.

Steve Butts:

BlueberryMUNCH:
Good review but yeah, there's a typo in the first paragraph:].

What? He's not on the fun from his former master?

If only he was Steve, if only he was:']

Well I didn't expect much from this one, as the first one was piss poor compared to good games.
And even my Star Wars fanboy-ism can't mellow me down to give this one a go.

Jedi Outcast brought it 8 years ago, now they struggle to get anything decent together with all the awesome tech we now have... so very sad.

I thought that Jedi Outcast was terrible. The shooting mechanics were awful, the weapons were boring, and you had to go through a ton of uninspired shooting levels to get to the fun lightsaber bits. *cue nerd rage*
On the other hand, I really enjoyed Force Unleashed 1 & 2.

Glad somebody else loves the Jedi Knight series. I remember my time in Jedi Academy multiplayer...a jawa character with a double bladed red lightsaber. Good times...
Anyway, it's kinda hard to take the story seriously if the protagonist could take the death star by himself. From a planet within weapon range. While blindfolded. *sigh* kids and their stupid uebermasculine power fantasies...

Yeah, this is one of the problems with Jedis. It's the same with Superman. You want to give them a real sense that they can just breeze through ordinary challenges but still give them an obstacle worthy of their powers. Hitting that sweet spot between too tough and not nearly tough enough is what makes or breaks this type of game. Jedi Knight did it way better.

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