The Escapist Presents: Dungeons & Dragons: Opening the Monster Vault

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Dungeons & Dragons: Opening the Monster Vault

Greg Tito take a look at the latest from Wizards, the D&D Essentials Monster Vault.

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Looks pretty cool, wish I could play Real life DnD. :)

Korten12:
Looks pretty cool, wish I could play Real life DnD. :)

Maybe you could LARP.

Folio:

Korten12:
Looks pretty cool, wish I could play Real life DnD. :)

Maybe you could LARP.

Dear god, no! I wouldn't ever be caught doing that. No offense to people who do it, I just find it kind of wierd.

Korten12:

Folio:

Korten12:
Looks pretty cool, wish I could play Real life DnD. :)

Maybe you could LARP.

Dear god, no! I wouldn't ever be caught doing that. No offense to people who do it, I just find it kind of wierd.

I've seen stranger things, though. Like Weather LARP. Where you have to act like your weather type. Of course there's Pirate, Sci-Fi and Caveman LARP. And they all take it very seriously.

Wouldnt mind reading the book since it sounds interesting but dont play the game so bit of a moot point

Rust monster...*shivers*
Looks good, though.

Nice I still haven't found Monster Manual 3 yet (Althought I find the lack of miniatures to be kind of annoying (What ever happened to miniatures?)

It's actually available from friday in selected game stores as part of the early release thing wizards of the coast do for participating stores.

Hope the Tarrasque is in there since they're covering iconic monsters.

Nice! I am quite sold on this box/book set. Looks good! I've really enjoyed the Essentials line so far, I think it's an excellent series of products (yeah, yeah, I know some people hate it...) It's too bad that there isn't a way to organize all of those monster tokens, I imagine digging through a pile of them to find the monster you want will be a bit of a pain. Not sure how they could do it though, unless they were paper-thin and could be placed between the pages of the book itself somehow. Only other complaint is this: C'mon, an Owlbear for the front cover? Should be a beholder, IMO.

Korten12:

Folio:

Korten12:
Looks pretty cool, wish I could play Real life DnD. :)

Maybe you could LARP.

Dear god, no! I wouldn't ever be caught doing that. No offense to people who do it, I just find it kind of wierd.

Not all LARPers are scary, just the bad ones, or the ones convinced it isn't a game.
http://www.sca.org/officers/chatelain/pdf/NewcomersGuideBooklet-hi.pdf

Maybe this link will help. This is a very reputable organization.

My computer monitor is presently sitting atop my 3.5 Monstrous Manuals. Good I love those books. I haven't played AD&D since I was a kid, but I'm a sucker for the fluff and art work.

Dirty Apple:
My computer monitor is presently sitting atop my 3.5 Monstrous Manuals. Good I love those books. I haven't played AD&D since I was a kid, but I'm a sucker for the fluff and art work.

You sir! You are a winner! *Pins 3.5 Badge on you, then shows you mine*

3.5. Separates men from boys. B]

My only turnoff was that they recycled the Icewind Dale map. That book looks great. I only wish it had some use on 3.5 minis.

Great. Now I wanna buy it.

Thanks for making me spend money, Escapist!

Take your fourth ed and begone!

Minis, cut-outs, this flashy shit is not necessary. Pen, paper, dice and portable white board and texters. All this superficial glitzy detail won't make a good campaign, and fourth has taken the rules in some terrible directions. Too simplified and limited for my tastes.

Why looking at this new box and its creatures, and I don't even see a new monster either. Recycled dnd of yester-year sold back in gaudiness.

I say old chap:
Take your fourth ed and begone!

Minis, cut-outs, this flashy shit is not necessary. Pen, paper, dice and portable white board and texters. All this superficial glitzy detail won't make a good campaign, and fourth has taken the rules in some terrible directions. Too simplified and limited for my tastes.

Why looking at this new box and its creatures, and I don't even see a new monster either. Recycled dnd of yester-year sold back in gaudiness.

I have to heartily agree with almost everything you said, although 4E wasn't the beginning of the "flashy shit", as you describe it - the 3.0/3.5 versions of D&D really amped up the visual flair, virtually forcing you to buy the new full-color dungeon maps/tile sets and hundreds of minis to keep up with the "new cinematic feel" of the game.

I've played 4E on several occasions, and it just doesn't feel like D&D to me - it's strayed too far from the idea that player characters are indeed specialists and profoundly different from class to class. Now every character can do almost the exact same things as all the others - it's more like playing World of Warcraft or Everquest. I still prefer to play 3.5E, especially since Pathfinder came out and made the system it even better.

I really like the look of that. Me and my friends started playing with the new 4E red box and this seems like a nice supplement!

I really have no problem with 4th edition. My friends and I have had a campaign going for about 2 years now and it has been a lot of fun. Its not really a rules intensive edition, but it leaves way for quite a bit of good, old fashioned RPing. There are plenty of opportunities to make individualized characters in this edition btw, it just take a bit more foresight to do such.

4E doesn't really require you to buy all of this crap, just the books and dice really. As far as minis and maps go it's easy to find a way around that. I don't like the way that people rag on this edition when 2nd edition nuts said the same about 3.0/3.5 editions. It's just the nature of the beast I guess.

A rust monster?!?!?! Didn't futurama think of it first?

I say old chap:
Minis, cut-outs, this flashy shit is not necessary. Pen, paper, dice and portable white board and texters.

Yeah, D&D should always be played as originally intended, as an outcropping of "Chainmail." miniatures have no place in RPGS!

So I didn't hear Greg cover this in the video, but what exactly IS in the monster vault in terms of monsters? Is it largely a reprint of 4E MM1 with corrected stats so we don't have to manually adjust the math? Is there anything new in the book?

That was probably one of the slicker video reviews I've seen on here. Would love to see more Tito unboxings like that.

bdcjacko:
A rust monster?!?!?! Didn't futurama think of it first?

I'm not sure what the first appearance of it was, but the Rust Monster is in the 1981 Basic D&D Red Box. It's has been a classic monster, and bane of fighters, for quite some time before Fururama.

Missing SHODAN:
So I didn't hear Greg cover this in the video, but what exactly IS in the monster vault in terms of monsters? Is it largely a reprint of 4E MM1 with corrected stats so we don't have to manually adjust the math? Is there anything new in the book?

It's a collection of the most iconic monsters. So there might be a few new ones, but most of them would have been covered in other Monster Manuals. What's new though is all the story information provided for each monster now, with the hope that it will make them easier to incorporate into your campaigns more seamlessly and in more interesting manners.

BrashHulk:

I say old chap:
Take your fourth ed and begone!

Minis, cut-outs, this flashy shit is not necessary. Pen, paper, dice and portable white board and texters. All this superficial glitzy detail won't make a good campaign, and fourth has taken the rules in some terrible directions. Too simplified and limited for my tastes.

Why looking at this new box and its creatures, and I don't even see a new monster either. Recycled dnd of yester-year sold back in gaudiness.

I have to heartily agree with almost everything you said, although 4E wasn't the beginning of the "flashy shit", as you describe it - the 3.0/3.5 versions of D&D really amped up the visual flair, virtually forcing you to buy the new full-color dungeon maps/tile sets and hundreds of minis to keep up with the "new cinematic feel" of the game.

I've played 4E on several occasions, and it just doesn't feel like D&D to me - it's strayed too far from the idea that player characters are indeed specialists and profoundly different from class to class. Now every character can do almost the exact same things as all the others - it's more like playing World of Warcraft or Everquest. I still prefer to play 3.5E, especially since Pathfinder came out and made the system it even better.

They hardly forced you to buy that stuff, it was your choice. I've always played with floor plans and minatures, but mainly because I collect minatures anyway, and I started playing with ye old Runequest and AD&D, they just give what your playing on a little more solidness, then you can let your imagination run from there, not having any material aid aside from a whiteboard just seemed to lesson the experience for me, as it is literally just sitting there rolling dice, but if you prefer to play that way then you can, Wizards of the Coast aint forcing you to buy anything.

Great unboxing video, Greg. I'll have to pick this up on the 16th for the campaign I'm running.

Damn rust monster, cheapest damn monster out there.
It and the coc-make-a-new-character-tris.

Damn...all this 4E stuff looks pretty cool. Damn, i miss D&D, haven't played it in half a year or so...my group kinda went off to collage/uni/jobs.

Slycne:

bdcjacko:
A rust monster?!?!?! Didn't futurama think of it first?

I'm not sure what the first appearance of it was, but the Rust Monster is in the 1981 Basic D&D Red Box. It's has been a classic monster, and bane of fighters, for quite some time before Fururama.

I know, I was making a joke.

I still enjoy 3.5 more than 4... they simplified it soooo much... plus the books were a hell of a lot cooler

Korten12:

Folio:

Korten12:
Looks pretty cool, wish I could play Real life DnD. :)

Maybe you could LARP.

Dear god, no! I wouldn't ever be caught doing that. No offense to people who do it, I just find it kind of wierd.

Hey these guys play D&D and LARP and their the coolest duo on the internet.

1st and 2nd edition AD&D ftw!

well i like a nice beast compendium. But i am not a fan of maps markers and miniatures when it comes to Pen and Paper. I prefer in-head-only action.

Any new monsters?

From what I saw on the Wizards website alot of monsters aren't simple repeats of existing monsters, but remakes of them that have a slightly different flavor and also are more in line with recent books of the series.
And some monsters, like the Neo-Otyugh are new to 4E, to my knowledge.

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