Zero Punctuation: Fallout: New Vegas

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Leviathan_:
I knew you were going to comment on the bugs.

Nevertheless, I'm getting this game, perhaps the modding community can fix all the cockups

The buggs are not completely universal, that is not everyone encounters them. Obsidian have however been very dedicated, releasing two patches a couple of days after launch, with a major one soon following.

I personally have only once crashed, that was when i fast-traveled, but fortunately the game auto-saved right before i crashed, so nothing was lost.

Gimmicky? Yes.
Funny? You betcha!

So long as the answer to #2 is a version of yes, I will tolerate any positive answer to #1.

lobotoja:
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You should edit this to "Sorry. Double post." or something similar.

lobotoja:
and since half of those guys were in black isle neither did the first fallouts

Granted, I never played the original Fallouts back on Windows 9x, but they've crashed plenty in XP and Vista/7. Fallout 2 also had a problem where saving and loading in the Wanamingo Mine could cause the game to crash as soon as you tried to move, or corrupt the save entirely.

Honestly, it's an interesting review. Incidentally, I'm thoroughly convinced he'd take apart any game, even ones HE made.

JediMB:

lobotoja:
and since half of those guys were in black isle neither did the first fallouts

Granted, I never played the original Fallouts back on Windows 9x, but they've crashed plenty in XP and Vista/7. Fallout 2 also had a problem where saving and loading in the Wanamingo Mine could cause the game to crash as soon as you tried to move, or corrupt the save entirely.

system issue not programs and i used windows 2000 the one based on nt till xp64 ;p

lobotoja:

JediMB:

lobotoja:
and since half of those guys were in black isle neither did the first fallouts

Granted, I never played the original Fallouts back on Windows 9x, but they've crashed plenty in XP and Vista/7. Fallout 2 also had a problem where saving and loading in the Wanamingo Mine could cause the game to crash as soon as you tried to move, or corrupt the save entirely.

system issue not programs and i used windows 2000 the one based on nt till xp64 ;p

The game crashing with 100% certainty because you have saved and loaded under the wrong circumstances is definitely a programming issue with the game itself.

Dante Spears:
While good comedic value, where the hell was the review?

I was wondering the exact same thing.. He did not actually say anything at all about how the game was.. only what he did in it..

The first few encounters of this review are just like my own. It puzzled me for a while when it turned out +H2O had a bad effect.

I enjoyed this episode though. It was a different and a nice approach.

Haha, nice!

So far I'm really enjoying this game, I've spend nearly 90 hours on my first playthrough now, which is titanic.

I also play in hardcore mode, but like Yahtzee did, it's easy to just nick everything you see and sell it.

The bugs are annoying however, I had to use the console a couple of times to make questgivers who mysteriously disappeared come back, thank god I'm playing on PC and can download some community bug fixes and mods.

I really enjoyed this review. I thought it was a pretty fresh take, and quite fun to hear Yahtzee run though some of his htoughts as they pertain to New Vegas.

no, it's made of acids, which absorb water. Soda makes you thirsty. Test it out.

The music in the daily interludes of this review, brought back memories of when Yahtzee used all sorts of different songs at the beginning and end of the review. That was so much better than the current trite theme song. Plus Yahtzee cleverly tied in the music to the general tilt of the review. It was much more entertaining. I wish Yahtzee would go back to that.

I can see the same issues Fallout 3 had have been carried over.

I could never get that game to work. It bugged out so much and my PC constantly had compatability issues no matter what I did. Just gave up on it

Plus the movement of your character looked so wooden and robotic when in 3rd person mode

*Yawn* You can put your e-peen away, no one is impressed. Try setting it higher than Easy and you'll find that they can easily close the gap before you can cripple their wings if you aren't careful; especially in the early game when Yahtzee encountered them.[/quote]

Whoa, chill it out. Who's e-peening? I'm saying Cazadors take huge damage when you nail them in the wings. Sometimes they even flip onto their backs when crippled. Like I said, they're more irritating than an actual threat. More of a waste of shotshells.

Anything's easy when you know how to deal with it... but really, get Dinner Bell and pretty much everything becomes trivial to kill.

ProzacMan:

zelda2fanboy:
Damn, I was totally into that story. I think I'd probably watch a two hour Yahtzee Fallout story. You know, so long as it didn't freeze.

I'm with him! Maybe the Escapist can pay you a little extra to do one day a week of the game as Yahtzee's Fallout New Vegas videos on top of your regular reviews. :D

Actually he could even do it as an after credits extra after the regular video. Might get people to actually stick around and read the credits. ;-)

It has got more evened out than Fallout 3. I always found starting on Hard mode was torture but then around level six it got way too easy. Hardcore mode is definately more my style as I always plan ahead than run into combat, but then I went lugging around 150 stimpaks, water, food, doctor's bags and almost 100,000 caps by the end of the game and it kind of took away the challenge.

Maybe I might try a playthrough of a Bethesda Fallout game without bankrupting every trader I find...

ilion:

OhJohnNo:
Haha, funny review as always Yahtzee.

I suppose this means you found it "alright" like Fallout 3?

Hmm. How many games exactly do you think are more than "alright"? I know you're a cynic, but other than Half-Life and Silent Hill... are you not impressed with anything?

He is impressed with other games, hes smart in keeping high standards because frankly, most games are pretty bad these days. I remember he enjoyed the thief games, spoke well of mass effect, and iam quite certain hes a Deus Ex fan. Among others iam sure. Ill bet he likes Homeworld btw, looking at your avatar.

I doubt he likes Homeworld, to be honest, even if he's heard of it - it's an RTS, and you know his opinions on them.

Interesting notion: Lots of people say that new Vegas is just a fallout 3 expansion

Interesting notion: Nobody said Gears of War 2 was a Gears of War expansion.

Don't get me wrong, the similarities are there, but there there are a fair few differences in New Vegas when you spend some time with it, more than most sequels have when compared to the original game. I agree that hardcore mode is a bit of a schill though, it's a lot less compelling than I expected (it's very very forgiving).

But back to my initial point: Why do some sequels get called "Just an expansion" while other sequels don't?

Gears did it, CoD did it (Did they change the engine between MW1 and MW2?), Hell, the amount that changed between mass effect 1 and 2 isn't particularly phenomenal, and New vegas has less randomly clicking planets for resources.

Note: The above is partially driven by bias, I really like New Vegas and have seen very few bugs, and no game-breaking bugs, however, I consider it the superior game to Fallout 3 in pretty much every single way.

Liked the journal style in this review and how the "bugs" issue was brought up. I'll be sticking into hardcore mode when I've finished my first playthrough.

This is now my favorite Yahtzee video.

I had the same problem with the H2O thing the first time I tried to deal with my dehydration level.

And I hate those killer flies.

best review ever, man.

ditto on "international law of go fuck yourselves" crackin me up.

I loved it. Especially the line of keeping stuff from guys who attacked you first with the International Law of Go $&%^ Yourself. Classic (and very true, I might add).

Bravo to you for another good review.

The thing that really got me was the starvation thing even though there's food everywhere its hard to find food with the least amount of RAD so you wont just drop dead out of the blue (moon)especially if you just came back from camp searchlight.

Still this game was alright and a great way of putting it in a nutshell Yahtzee proud of you.

Interesting style that suits this game. It's hilarious he has been raped by the glitchy/buggy ass game that already feels like an expansion pack for me.

Fallout 3 is good as it is!

I hated the graphics freezes as well (They're much worse on the PC) but thankfully a modder kinda fixed that.

Another great review.

People talking about crashing? I didn't have a problem the entire game. Did a lot of side quests too. Get a better computer.

very good but i lurve new vegas and i found a very easy way to get inot the vegas strip,
help the kings and then when they owe you a favour ask to get into the strip and they give you a fake passport

Sorry about the delay in response:

Quorothorn:

solidstatemind:
It still amazes me that people give Yahtzee's opinion any sort of weight. He's a comedian not a critic, folks. He may point out things that are worth your time to consider, but if you base your purchasing decision solely upon his 'reviews', you're really doing yourself a disservice. You may bleat now. Thank you.

Isn't that a bit contradictory? If he brings up points worthy of consideration, why does it amaze you that people give his opinion "any sort of weight"?

Okay, you got me: I started out with a generalization. I should've said "it continues to shock me that some people take his opinion as being definitive..." I think the rest of my statement got the point I was trying to make across, however.

samaugsch:

solidstatemind:
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Actually, he says in his SSBB viewer comment review that he's a critic.

...and once, when a form I filled out asked me what color I was, I put in 'Paisley'. In other words, just because he said it does not necessarily make it so-- and in fact, I would argue that product Yahtzee puts out consistently contradicts that statement. ZP is always at least amusing to me, and is often laugh-out-loud funny-- and that is its strongest trait, not conveying information that would be very useful for making a thoughtful purchasing decision.

Basically, Yahtzee is a critic in that he is 'critical' in the sense of "being marked by a tendency to find and call attention to errors and flaws", not 'critical' in the sense of "characterized by careful evaluation and judgment". Perhaps you may not agree with my assessment, but I think the evidence supports that conclusion.

Regardless, the ultimate point is that I think people who base their purchasing decisions solely upon a ZP episode are foolish. Of course, I think that about anyone who would look to only one source (regardless of who or what it may be) to guide their thoughts and actions, since that basically means they're leaving their critical thinking to someone else rather than gathering as much information as possible and coming to a conclusion themselves.

Not that my comments will change anything. Followers are usually pretty damn stubborn about remaining dependent. I guess I just like tilting windmills.

solidstatemind:
Sorry about the delay in response:

Quorothorn:

solidstatemind:
It still amazes me that people give Yahtzee's opinion any sort of weight. He's a comedian not a critic, folks. He may point out things that are worth your time to consider, but if you base your purchasing decision solely upon his 'reviews', you're really doing yourself a disservice. You may bleat now. Thank you.

Isn't that a bit contradictory? If he brings up points worthy of consideration, why does it amaze you that people give his opinion "any sort of weight"?

Okay, you got me: I started out with a generalization. I should've said "it continues to shock me that some people take his opinion as being definitive..." I think the rest of my statement got the point I was trying to make across, however.

samaugsch:

solidstatemind:
snip

Actually, he says in his SSBB viewer comment review that he's a critic.

...and once, when a form I filled out asked me what color I was, I put in 'Paisley'. In other words, just because he said it does not necessarily make it so-- and in fact, I would argue that product Yahtzee puts out consistently contradicts that statement. ZP is always at least amusing to me, and is often laugh-out-loud funny-- and that is its strongest trait, not conveying information that would be very useful for making a thoughtful purchasing decision.

Basically, Yahtzee is a critic in that he is 'critical' in the sense of "being marked by a tendency to find and call attention to errors and flaws", not 'critical' in the sense of "characterized by careful evaluation and judgment". Perhaps you may not agree with my assessment, but I think the evidence supports that conclusion.

Regardless, the ultimate point is that I think people who base their purchasing decisions solely upon a ZP episode are foolish. Of course, I think that about anyone who would look to only one source (regardless of who or what it may be) to guide their thoughts and actions, since that basically means they're leaving their critical thinking to someone else rather than gathering as much information as possible and coming to a conclusion themselves.

Not that my comments will change anything. Followers are usually pretty damn stubborn about remaining dependent. I guess I just like tilting windmills.

I don't use Yahtzee as my only source, but I figure that he makes a good one if you interpret his reviews correctly. For instance, if a game is really good, he might say one or two good things about it in the whole review. If it's any worse than that, he'll nitpick it like crazy. At least that's how I look at his reviews. I'm starting to doubt major sources ever since Gamestop's Kane & Lynch 2 review.

Fallout 3 was shit and this game is shit, i agree completely with ur review
I mean come on they are using the same fucking graphics engine and it has more bugs inn it then a year old fish.

Sweet jesus, i dont know if i'm high on morning, but that was funny.

In The Mood!
I will buy this game solely because that music was used in relation to is (I know it's not IN the game)

samaugsch:
I don't use Yahtzee as my only source, but I figure that he makes a good one if you interpret his reviews correctly. For instance, if a game is really good, he might say one or two good things about it in the whole review. If it's any worse than that, he'll nitpick it like crazy. At least that's how I look at his reviews. I'm starting to doubt major sources ever since Gamestop's Kane & Lynch 2 review.

Nah, that's totally reasonable-- it's basically what I do. I was more referring to the seemingly endless stream of people who say something like "thanks Yahtzee; I was thinking about getting this but now I know to avoid it." I mean, seriously? If they are going to mindlessly follow Yahtzee's opinion regardless, why bother even watching? You could easily argue that if Yahtzee reviews something, nine times out of ten (ninety-nine times out of one-hundred, even?), he 'hates' it, or at least comes off like he does.

I know that being negative about pretty much everything is his shtick, but I find myself tiring of it. I prefer AVGN so much more because whenhe rants and raves, the games really deserve it (in hindsight at least), where as ZP seems to massively magnify minor quibbles into problems that they're not. Vegas is so buggy, but there was very little said about this gold mine of comic and sarcastic material.

So I watch all your videos. I think your sense of humour and insights are downright brilliant. I've been hooked on this game, so I was excited to see your take on it. The review fucking sucked, or lack of a review that is. In fact I had to register just to bitch about it and I never register for anything.

This game lazily recycled 75% of its code from Fallout 3 and somehow is 500% buggier. However, people can't stop playing it. At first I was incredibly disappointed, but then started to see how much better everything was laid out. The plot, the humour, the sub-quests, the back stories are all richer and make the game far more entertaining. You failed to comment on any of these things and wasted my fucking time with Glen Miller and your step by step description of what you decided to do in the game.

Just admit that you didn't have nearly enough time to even scrape the surface of this game and threw this review like a comic throws a set because he doesn't like the audience. Meanwhile, despite your laziness this time round, your patriotic followers praise the review just because it's different than your usual style...which is actually reviewing the game.

Maybe the karma doesn't make a difference, but you failed to mention the introduction of "reputation" with the different factions. This is the closest I've seen to a choice-based game actually having a somewhat realistic impact on the the outcome of the story.

Anyway, I thought you might actually have some interesting and funny things to say about this monumental game and you half assed it like you got hammered the night before and then threw it together at the last minute.

You know I'm right.

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