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Lady Kathleen:

How can someone sacrifice go off before I've targeted them? As soon as I bring out the card and say "journey to nowhere" I've targeted the creature. I can understand the spell fizzling, but the only way to remove the creature before I targeted it would for Alex to be a psychic. It's stuff like this that makes magic seem unintuitive, ridiculous and unfun for casual players. And why I'd never play in any sort of official tournament or go to FNM.

Spells resolve backwards, as in if I doom blade one of your things and you cast a cancel, 1st the cancel...cancels the doom blade, so if he had sacrificed his vampire even after you played JtN, it would still count. I mean if it didn't worked like that at least half of the instants and abilities on the game would be useless.

also JtN targets a creature, so the previous post that she would had to sacrifice one of her own is wrong, the spell would just be put to waste and he would had lost anyway

I. LOVE. YOU. GUYS!

When I started watching LRR i thought that the only way you could be anymore awesome were if you played Magic :P And now...

Is there a decklist for Angry Kittens? :)

Graham_LRR:

insanelich:

Lady Kathleen:

How can someone sacrifice go off before I've targeted them? As soon as I bring out the card and say "journey to nowhere" I've targeted the creature. I can understand the spell fizzling, but the only way to remove the creature before I targeted it would for Alex to be a psychic. It's stuff like this that makes magic seem unintuitive, ridiculous and unfun for casual players. And why I'd never play in any sort of official tournament or go to FNM.

The sacrifice enters at top of the stack as an instant and resolves first. Then there's Journey to Nowhere with no valid target anymore.

All of this became legal when they revised stack and removed interrupt, and believe me, it's so much clearer now.

Also, you'd be scratching your head 24/7 if you were against a counterburn deck like mine.

We know that, we're confused as to why this somehow forces Kathleen to sac her own creature instead of the effect fizzling.

It has to do with the timing of the "enters the battlefield" effect. If you announce the Journey, pay its mana cost, etc., it goes on the stack. In response to it, i.e. before it comes into play, he could have sacrificed his own creature. Then Journey comes into play and its trigger goes on the stack and she needs to choose target creature for it to exile. So the only creatures in play were hers, so she'd probably pick steppe lynx. And then attack FTW next turn, but still.

The important thing to note here is that Journey to Nowhere isn't an aura, it's an enchantment that has a triggered "enters the battlefield" ability. She doesn't choose the target to exile until the enchantment comes into play, so if he responds at the right time, his creature will be gone before she has a chance to exile anything.

Is that clearer? I don't know what tier of nerd-dom this puts me on.

You gits, I laughed so hard I woke up the neighbours.

Viktor Persson:
I. LOVE. YOU. GUYS!

When I started watching LRR i thought that the only way you could be anymore awesome were if you played Magic :P And now...

Is there a decklist for Angry Kittens? :)

Yeah, like half the cast posted decklists some pages back. I've got them saved on my laptop :D

Matt_LRR:

Yokai:
You guys make the game seem so much more exciting than I remember it being. Also, mad props to Matt for the Sam Logan fireflower shirt.

Props to Sam Logan for the Fire Flower shirt.

-m

I was actually wondering if you knew Sam Logan personally or something; the Sonic shirt the one week and the fireflower shirt the next.

Although, living in Canada, it wouldn't be too hard to ship over. Living in a place where the shipping costs double the shirt... well, let's say it's something I would really, really, really like to get, but can't unless there's 20 other people/things that want it that can warrant the shipping cost.

On topic; I missed cH, glad to see it back in style. Didn't really get into Magic (I remember learning it, then promptly forgetting it), and if there was a CCG that I got into, I'd have to say, with great shame, was Yu-Gi-Oh. Influenced, again, with great shame, by the TV show.

True, as life itself. This one was an awesome episode guys.

I want Kathleen's deck, Kitty Power go!

Power of the kitty!

YYYEEESSSS!!! Commodore Hustle! Woo!!

Such a fantastic episode, the dialogue seemed extra pithy and quotable :D

The shock disbelief in Matt's face on losing so spectacularly to Alex was hilarious... great job, guys!

Ah, Kathleen... you and your kitties...

I love how Tim renounces the LRR lifestyle but keeps the t-shirt :P

This made my day, and was funny from start to finish!

"Of course, Graham, there's magic everywhere in this bitch"

Alex Steacy, you are the man!

Dooly95:

On topic; I missed cH, glad to see it back in style. Didn't really get into Magic (I remember learning it, then promptly forgetting it), and if there was a CCG that I got into, I'd have to say, with great shame, was Yu-Gi-Oh. Influenced, again, with great shame, by the TV show.

Now now, nothing wrong with Yu-Gi-Oh! I have World Championship 2010 in my DS, and I'm considering getting Decade Duels off Xbox Live. It's a great card game, and is a great rival to MtG. In fact, I'm torn between the two games. On one hand, I love the artwork and fast pace of Yu-Gi-Oh! But also love the strategy and possibilities with Magic. In the end, both are great card games, though.

I don't even play Magic, but knowing what it does to people I found this very very funny...and also so disturbingly accurate. Also Kathleen's deck was totally bitchin.

The magician part was the best! Great video

Curse you LRR! Making. me. load. Magic Online. must. resist...

Graham_LRR:
We know that, we're confused as to why this somehow forces Kathleen to sac her own creature instead of the effect fizzling.

Gusplaysmagic already ninja-ed me, but I'll try to do it a bit clearer.

The "exile target creature" is an ability of the card that only occurs once the card hits the battlefield (exact wording "When Journey to Nowhere enters the battlefield, exile target creature"). So by saccing in response to casting the card, it would force the enchantment to target one of Kathleen's creatures.

The problem seems to be you were playing the card as an aura, as opposed to an enchantment. You never actually target a creature when casting the spell, only afterwards once the "enters the battlefield" condition is triggered.

It amuses me greatly that I just watched this today, while I'm planning to unload all my old cards to a store the weekend after next. Holy crap that bag is heavy.

DID YOU KNOW THERE ARE KITTY PLANESWALKERS?!?

"There's magic everywhere in this bitch."
Guys, this phrase, t-shirt, now.
Also, great episode.

I JUST started playing Magic for the first time yesterday. I am now scared. I hope this doesn't happen to me!
What was the app you were using?

Lol great ep, reminds me of the old times I played with cards.

Off topic, could anyone enlighten me on how to play it with atleast a computer opponent without paying money?>.>"

Graham_LRR:

insanelich:

Lady Kathleen:

How can someone sacrifice go off before I've targeted them? As soon as I bring out the card and say "journey to nowhere" I've targeted the creature. I can understand the spell fizzling, but the only way to remove the creature before I targeted it would for Alex to be a psychic. It's stuff like this that makes magic seem unintuitive, ridiculous and unfun for casual players. And why I'd never play in any sort of official tournament or go to FNM.

The sacrifice enters at top of the stack as an instant and resolves first. Then there's Journey to Nowhere with no valid target anymore.

All of this became legal when they revised stack and removed interrupt, and believe me, it's so much clearer now.

Also, you'd be scratching your head 24/7 if you were against a counterburn deck like mine.

We know that, we're confused as to why this somehow forces Kathleen to sac her own creature instead of the effect fizzling.

Oh yeah, sorry, misread Kathleen's original post.

I don't see why Kathleen would have to target her own creature either.

EDIT: Apparently someone does, though. Gyaah. Yeah, looks legit. Now this makes me think I should have made the counterdeck as blue/white for maximum annoyance.

jonyboy13:
Lol great ep, reminds me of the old times I played with cards.

Off topic, could anyone enlighten me on how to play it with atleast a computer opponent without paying money?>.>"

No real way to play it without any money, but for five bucks you can buy Duels of the Planeswalkers on Steam. Also has online play. And 3 five buck expansion packs that are "optional".

Also premade decks, so that.

That guys magic tricks were awesome. Turning a black deck into red, then making all the cards vanish.

I nearly died of laughter when they flashbacked to him kicking all their asses.

kyosai7:

Dooly95:

On topic; I missed cH, glad to see it back in style. Didn't really get into Magic (I remember learning it, then promptly forgetting it), and if there was a CCG that I got into, I'd have to say, with great shame, was Yu-Gi-Oh. Influenced, again, with great shame, by the TV show.

Now now, nothing wrong with Yu-Gi-Oh! I have World Championship 2010 in my DS, and I'm considering getting Decade Duels off Xbox Live. It's a great card game, and is a great rival to MtG. In fact, I'm torn between the two games. On one hand, I love the artwork and fast pace of Yu-Gi-Oh! But also love the strategy and possibilities with Magic. In the end, both are great card games, though.

Go with Yu-Gi-Oh! Are card rulings should have you going insane in a matter of moments. Especialy since rulings are changed in the West version of it.

And there's the BKSS ruling.

:3

Though, YGO doesn't have set rotation, wich is pretty nice.

Tim's gone?? :-(

You guys only play type-2?

I've played this game for 17 years. It seems like such a waste to use only the new ones. But yeah, if you're almost exclusively playing newer players that might be a bit of a hassle at times. Never been a competitive player either. Just muck around with various ideas and got a group of friends who keep a variety of les or more competitive decks.

Currently I'm really into EDH (100 card deck, everything usable only once and limited to colors based on a General). Being able to actually use the collection of cards I've built up over the years is great. And hey, beating people down with an angry purple hippo is always fun.

Dooly95:

Matt_LRR:

Yokai:
You guys make the game seem so much more exciting than I remember it being. Also, mad props to Matt for the Sam Logan fireflower shirt.

Props to Sam Logan for the Fire Flower shirt.

-m

I was actually wondering if you knew Sam Logan personally or something; the Sonic shirt the one week and the fireflower shirt the next.

Although, living in Canada, it wouldn't be too hard to ship over. Living in a place where the shipping costs double the shirt... well, let's say it's something I would really, really, really like to get, but can't unless there's 20 other people/things that want it that can warrant the shipping cost.

On topic; I missed cH, glad to see it back in style. Didn't really get into Magic (I remember learning it, then promptly forgetting it), and if there was a CCG that I got into, I'd have to say, with great shame, was Yu-Gi-Oh. Influenced, again, with great shame, by the TV show.

We do know Sam personally, yes.

He's from victoria originally, and the LRR crew met and get to know him not long after highschool (when he started dating an ex girlfriend of mine, actually :p ). Chalk it up to the world being a very small place.

-m

This makes me want to play MTG again, damn you!

I haven't played magic before but I've watched this video around 15 times or something

I went through a phase of trying out MtG but I found everyone in my area (expect for the friend who taught me) was kind of a douche. So, I stopped playing. Also, at some point I also felt buying so many cards was just an expense I couldn't really justify for myself.

Though, I got say the whole episode was great and I totally loled at "Magnets...How do they work?"

How about we all agree J2N is a stupid card that should just be removed from the game? :)

Magic? While playing Magic?!?!

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This was a fun episode but not even the loading ready run team could draw me back into Magic.

Redlin5:
Magic? While playing Magic?!?!

This was a fun episode but not even the loading ready run team could draw me back into Magic.

Ha, come hang out with us for a day, will have you cracked in 2 hours :)

James_LRR:

Redlin5:
Magic? While playing Magic?!?!

This was a fun episode but not even the loading ready run team could draw me back into Magic.

Ha, come hang out with us for a day, will have you cracked in 2 hours :)

Gah, don't tempt me! I have a life now, I can't lose my soul this soon!

Gotta say guys, I'm loving the longer episodes.
Oh dear heavens, a Magnets AND a Wizards reference? Those almost got by me.

Oddly enough Magic is probably the one collectable card game I never got into. Strange, because it seems right up my alley...
And for some reason I keep finding Kathleen oddly attractive...

Wait, did I type that or just think it?

awesome episode guys, I recently got back in to pokemon so I know what its like.

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