Don't Knock TV: It's Going To Get Better

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Don't Knock TV: It's Going To Get Better

Streaming television at our own place is going to result in better programming; just you wait and see.

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Not in Canada it's not, we have bollox broadcast laws thanks to the stupid CRTC.

At this point, it can hardly get worse.

PedroSteckecilo:
Not in Canada it's not, we have bollox broadcast laws thanks to the stupid CRTC.

Not to mention the fact that its not the actor that makes the show. if they had Edward norton in some shitty T.V show i still wouldn't watch it lol. Also the CRTC isn't that bad if you have the channels.

I'd love be able to stream stuff. However my internet is ass and I can barely stream a live feed, much less a television show/movie/game/whatehaveyou.

So yeah, until fast internet becomes more readily available, its kind of hard to get excited about how streaming will change things.

The next wrinkle is going to be monetization. You can certainly tell better stories when you have, in essence, a 12 hour episode instead of 12 1-hour episodes, but that means you're backending all of your revenue. You're losing the week-to-week that you'd gain from ad sales and trading it for a big payoff once the entire thing is done. Which can certainly work, it's just not the system that TV is currently set up to use.

I recently watched Persons Unknown on Netflix and I guarantee you it was a far superior experience to trying to follow it week by week. If you're watching everything in one lump, it's ok if an hour chooses to focus on character development as opposed to solving the mystery, but that's much harder to swallow when you've been looking forward to getting some answers all week long. (The show was flawed for other reasons, which is why it ultimately failed. Don't watch it - the ending will drive you mad.)

Excellent article, but it does not really seem like TV is getting better from where I'm sitting. Now that Lost is done, the only TV drama I enjoy is The Walking Dead, and while it is a damn good show, it took a while to show up and it will be gone for a while in 3 weeks. Still waiting for the next Lost over here. :(

PedroSteckecilo:
Not in Canada it's not, we have bollox broadcast laws thanks to the stupid CRTC.

"bollox"? is that Canadian for "Bullocks"? Dude, we're barely British anymore, quit trying. And you're clearly not doing it right.

As for the CRTC, it's a HELL of a lot better than most American stations where you can't watch a movie without half of it being bleeped and cut and butchered. Their censorship is lunacy. We make quality programming, trustworthy reporting and we treat our viewers like adults and not little children who might melt if they hear the word "shit."

we even show nudity :)

What do you mean writing is getting better? It clearly can't get shitter than this. Instead try sampling some foreign film, France and Japan, there not bad.
Oh and comic books written by Marvel n' DC, made into a film do not count.

Um... You folks don't know what the CRTC is do you? I'm not referring to the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, I'm referring to The Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission, the people who regulate Canadian Content and give TV Stations the right to broadcast in Canada. In many cases The CRTC is why we can't have nice things, it's why it took us forever to get HBO up here and why the BBC needs a special BBC Canada Station to broadcast here.

They're also pretty much ensuring that Canada will never get good digital content because they feel they can't "regulate the amount of Canadian Content" provided by digital sources.

Television as a medium is dead to me. Haven't owned a TV in 4 years . . . will never own one again. On the other hand, the artistic form formally known as the television series is just getting started. I wouldn't really put Lost in the A-list, but there have been some drop dead amazing series going lately, especially when you compare them to early television: think Carnivāle, Dextor, Mad Men, or BattleStar Galactica. I would argue that the art form has surely equaled or even surpassed film at this point.

Lexodus:
At this point, it can hardly get worse.

glee, vampire diaries, and (insert current fox show that isn't cancelled yet) oh yes, it can get much, MUCH worse...

shadowstriker86:

Lexodus:
At this point, it can hardly get worse.

glee, vampire diaries, and (insert current fox show that isn't cancelled yet) oh yes, it can get much, MUCH worse...

Glee I will give y- OH NO WAIT. They're not showing it in the UK yet. Again. I have to watch it online, and every single link online takes you to the same damn Megavideo link... -.-

I don't mind the shows I watch at the moment. I don't watch much TV but most types of show appeal to me. But I usually stick to the comedies and sports.

PedroSteckecilo:
In many cases The CRTC is why we can't have nice things, it's why it took us forever to get HBO up here and why the BBC needs a special BBC Canada Station to broadcast here.

They're also pretty much ensuring that Canada will never get good digital content because they feel they can't "regulate the amount of Canadian Content" provided by digital sources.

A lot of Europe has similar issues and licensing in general throughout the continent is an insane mishmash of bad ideas. That's before you factor in every country having their own way of doing things and the costs of localising. Add to that the sheer network burden of a large amount of people moving to online TV. In the UK the rollout of BBC iplayer was very close to having the kibosh put on it when the internet providers threatened to refuse their users access to it claiming that there simply wasn't the bandwidth to go around.

The digital age of TV may have started but it's going to take a change in a lot of regulations to be mainstream in much of the world. Torrents are going to rule the roost for a while yet.

Even in America there's still issues with advertising revenues,rating systems and royalty and licensing payments attached to online content.

The weekly model isn't just the old way of doing things it's TV's attraction to investors. Some returns week in week out, the ability to see how the audience is taking your series and the opportunity to take it back and re-write the second half are big deals. Hitting your audience with one big dose and hoping it sells is a much bigger risk; the only serious advantage COULD be a few freedoms from network control but giants of streaming are already in place so the situation may just change hands rather than change.
As it stands working for a network eking out a weekly release and payment system and later putting it up for download\stream (maybe even for a fee) gives the best of both worlds and your online viewers will have been bolstered by those who missed teh airing and got word of mouth encouragement from those who did watch.

Yes, we may be at the start of something interesting that changes the way TV is made improving it in every way but there's a lot of obstacles in the way and it has some big risks if it goes all the way.

And lost? As much as people bang on about it I had absolutely no urge to pick up series two after watching the first. When an article that is talking about something altogether different wastes half the space on said show I have to wonder where the point went.

A well written and interesting article. I'll have to agree, and I'm looking forward to see how TV has evolved. I'm expecting almost a mix of TV and Youtube in the future, which should be very interesting to see. Cheers.

I don't hold much hope for mainstream television. Used to watch the history channel and now 90% of it is ice road truckers swamp people and pawn stars. These shows are interesting but really are just cheap to produce and have nothing if anything to do with history. They have an actual channel that shows real history shows like the assassination of Kennedy, and the Eastern Front but they expect you to pay for it (F you history channel)
Law & Order, Family Guy, and a few other shows are about all I watch. Now days it seems like shows on stations like HBO and Starz are better than the crap peddle today. It's cheaper to produce live action reality shows with generic and annoying people that we'd otherwise avoid than to actually write out a good story with intriguing characters.
Gonna look into Hulu Plus and that along with my Netflix subscription may serve me better than paying for cable when all I really get is HD crap.

Colonel Alzheimer's:
Excellent article, but it does not really seem like TV is getting better from where I'm sitting. Now that Lost is done, the only TV drama I enjoy is The Walking Dead, and while it is a damn good show, it took a while to show up and it will be gone for a while in 3 weeks. Still waiting for the next Lost over here. :(

fringe is a good stopgap for any lost fan (although the main character is terrible) I recommend it. I'm not saying its the new lost but its definitely interesting.

Valagetti:
What do you mean writing is getting better? It clearly can't get shitter than this. Instead try sampling some foreign film, France and Japan, there not bad.
Oh and comic books written by Marvel n' DC, made into a film do not count.

Um television =/= film I believe you may have missed the point somewhat. Outside of English speaking countries(mostly England and America unfortunately) there is very little in the realm of good serialised television (bar anime which despite me liking is kind of down to the individual)

I like watching TV, there's just so many programs that are terrible. Plus, I don't have a TV in my room, and I dare not leave it.

Lost? Pah! If I want to see a complex story in which complex characters have to unravel a time-traveling mystery in a closed-off world that plays by its own rules, I'll read Homestuck.

But I agree completely. It's curious how television has none of the stigma surrounding, say, videogames and graphic novels, and yet suffers from the same problem that only a few visionaries try to stretch the media to its limit. Television should be considered a long form version of a movie, it should be to cinema what a novel is to a short story, but no, only pragmatic, formulaic shows are allowed to shine.

I wonder how much TV will be hurt by the growth of the internet. I guess not much, because of the so called fourty-five degrees (i.e. you need to be sitting up to use a computer but can be lying back to watch TV, so even if using a computer is objectively better than watching TV sometimes people will prefer the passive activity). Which is too bad because it needs to be shaken up a tad.

1)stop watching normal tv
2)start watching anime
3)?????
4a)Weaboo fail
or
4b)PROFIT

Ahlycks:
1)stop watching normal tv
2)start watching anime
3)?????
4a)Weaboo fail
or
4b)PROFIT

see I don't see why people on both sides (anime nerds and anime haters) don't count anime as normal tv. I will quite happily watch house followed by full metal alchemist. It's these arbitrary separations of terms which holds back anime from grasping a foothold in American television. (or one of the reasons anyway)

bahumat42:

Ahlycks:
1)stop watching normal tv
2)start watching anime
3)?????
4a)Weaboo fail
or
4b)PROFIT

see I don't see why people on both sides (anime nerds and anime haters) don't count anime as normal tv. I will quite happily watch house followed by full metal alchemist. It's these arbitrary separations of terms which holds back anime from grasping a foothold in American television. (or one of the reasons anyway)

well, if you were too take a bottle, fill it with piss and gold, would you want the two too mix or would you rather the gold too stay awesome and untainted (mostly) by the piss?

Ahlycks:

bahumat42:

Ahlycks:
1)stop watching normal tv
2)start watching anime
3)?????
4a)Weaboo fail
or
4b)PROFIT

see I don't see why people on both sides (anime nerds and anime haters) don't count anime as normal tv. I will quite happily watch house followed by full metal alchemist. It's these arbitrary separations of terms which holds back anime from grasping a foothold in American television. (or one of the reasons anyway)

well, if you were too take a bottle, fill it with piss and gold, would you want the two too mix or would you rather the gold too stay awesome and untainted (mostly) by the piss?

yeah because thats an unbiased and fair opinion.
As much as serialised television has faults so does anime. Regardless of if your aware of them or not. And that analogy doesn't make sense because to get gold liquid you need sucha high temperature that piss would evaporate.

I hope you're right about TV getting better and more creative.
I'm a bit at odds with you about Lost though. Your two week marathon watching was a completely different experience than my YEARS of watching and dedication to the show, which led to a gigantic emotional buildup, among other things. When it got to The End I was entirely furious with the show because of this, something you never experienced. This is both good and bad.

Can I stream NCIS? That would be pretty damn awesome.

bahumat42:

Ahlycks:

bahumat42:

see I don't see why people on both sides (anime nerds and anime haters) don't count anime as normal tv. I will quite happily watch house followed by full metal alchemist. It's these arbitrary separations of terms which holds back anime from grasping a foothold in American television. (or one of the reasons anyway)

well, if you were too take a bottle, fill it with piss and gold, would you want the two too mix or would you rather the gold too stay awesome and untainted (mostly) by the piss?

yeah because thats an unbiased and fair opinion.
As much as serialised television has faults so does anime. Regardless of if your aware of them or not. And that analogy doesn't make sense because to get gold liquid you need sucha high temperature that piss would evaporate.

I was going to say something else, but I forget, sooo...
1)the piss/gold thing would be what the anime hatorz/weaboos would think. You asked why, so I answered.
2)Never said the gold was liquid.
3)Why do people need too think of them as the same things?

I don't really care anymore.

I've given up - long ago.

You do realize with continuously excellent writing like this we're going to demand a regular column, right?
It's past time, I'd say!

I stopped watching stuff on TV a loooong time ago, but that was really just to avoid Barry Scott.

I've been working my way through The Mentalist for the last couple of weeks and it'd be better weekly. I'm loving the show, but the formula is wearing a little thin. The same thing is starting to hit home with Lie to Me and Castle.

And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. A good weekly hit of well scripted drama and intrigue does you well, and gives you something to look forward to on a Tuesday night. By cramming them all together it's like drinking orange squash straight from the bottle - its overpowering and likely to put you off orange squash for a while...

We've also got Dexter, The Walking Dead, Fringe, new seasons of Hung, V, in Britain The Inbetweeners, The Misfits and for the more childish Family Guy, American Dad, The Cleveland Show. And they're just the one's I'm into at the moment. Tv's doing pretty well right now - they may have cancelled some excellent shows for stupid reasons, but what's left isn't ALL bad. It's the 'humble' DVR that allows me to watch all these without paying out extra, so Netflix and I-Tunes can do one.

Lexodus:
At this point, it can hardly get worse.

Sure it can; they can stop airing old reruns & replace 100% of the shows with reality TV & morons looking for ghosts.

Won't happen over here. The monopolies (Murdoch) that run us will only show what they think we want to see, so we get drabs of Doctor Who slotted in between Come see "Celebrities" do something else and Come see "normal" people taunted by "Celebrities".

No Colbert Report unless we watch it illegally, No HBO, and you have to escape right out to BBC3 to catch anything new.

And then there's some series that are cancelled without trace and we still have to see Del Boy fall through a bar AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

Bastards.

And to make it worse, what do we show the world? Mr. Bean - which is exactly what Laurel and Hardy were originally doing.

It will only get better when the episodes are upped onto the internet with a 30 second ad before a 30 min show with hour shows having a 2nd 30 second ad in the middle, the episode is upped online at the same time each week and if a programme isn't attracting enough viewers the ad company will drop it's sponsoring, therefor we will be choosing the shows success by watching them, there will no longer be networks, it will all be made by small production houses. Buffer rate won't be a problem as internet speeds are increasing across the board.
The future of TV is to emulate the pirate set up otherwise people will always choose to pirate if it is easier

I only watch streaming tv via hdmi on my laptop. It's great since I can't afford cable. So more streaming is good new to me, especially if this means better shows.

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