The Big Picture: Once Upon a Time in The Future

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LondonBeer:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/malign

Me, Oxford English, Websters, Random house, Collins English & every other user of the word seem to thinks its an adjective.

Yeah, I just checked it after posting. Lesson learned.

Professor Murder:

LondonBeer:

Humanity doesnt show kindness. Humanity accounts for at least 25% of the death toll of its own species. It pollutes, it creates conditions detrimental to its own health. Humanity is positively sadistic. Individual humans are cruel malign self serving creatures who without exception barring physiological malformation & dysfunction cannot perform an altruistic act (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327201.200-10-mysteries-of-you-altruism.html). Game theory states humanities cruelty mathematically for gods sake.

Well that's a self-fulfilling philosophy.

The phrase your looking for is prophecy, a self-fulfilling philosophy would be 'I think, therefore I am'.

Professor Murder:

LondonBeer:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/malign

Me, Oxford English, Websters, Random house, Collins English & every other user of the word seem to thinks its an adjective.

Yeah, I just checked it after posting. Lesson learned.

Thats OK we all make mistakes. Of course most of those mistakes can be avoided by checking what we are about to type long before its typed.

LondonBeer:

coakroach:
Damn it Bob, This is flamebait again.
Humanity hasn't shown you any kindness? Buddy thats downright offensive, I dont know how much of the world you've seen but seriously you sound out of touch.

Space travel will happen when it happens (when its rewards and benefits outweigh its costs and risks), it doesn't need to be pushed by governments who's only real motivation for space exploration is showboating or (god forbid) conquest.

A corporations intentions would be to make money. So if the Panacea was discovered by a corporation, its costs for space travel would be defrayed at sizeable markup. So youd die trying to afford that simple pill that would cure you because it costs a mere $2 million dollars. This is assuming the corporation didnt gouge at all (see Dichloroacetic Acid).

Humanity doesnt show kindness. Humanity accounts for at least 25% of the death toll of its own species. It pollutes, it creates conditions detrimental to its own health. Humanity is positively sadistic. Individual humans are cruel malign self serving creatures who without exception barring physiological malformation & dysfunction cannot perform an altruistic act (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327201.200-10-mysteries-of-you-altruism.html). Game theory states humanities cruelty mathematically for gods sake. Rational choices will always favour the chooser.

You clearly lack a broad world view and the experience to understand it sir.

World view?
I've lived in New Zealand, Australia, Malaysia and China
I've seen Laos, Holland, Spain, Thailand, India, Vietnam, Switzerland, Singapore and Indonesia
Rich police states, modern socialist democracies, poverty ridden former cold war proxy states...
Please tell me, whats qualifies you as a judge on who has a broad enough world view?

Corporations are greedy not stupid, if they want a broader (and therefore more stable and profitable) market and they'll lower the cost and increase production.
Thats why you pay a pittance on chocolate, salt, sugar and anything else that used to be staggeringly expensive in previous centuries.

Also your views on humanity match up with a certain historical figure that appears on the 100 denomination note in my curent country of residence. Take a wild guess.

This is easily the best video series on the Escapist, I enjoy these even more than I have the recent Zero Punctuations. I won't read 11 pages of comments and get too involved here, but the fact that there are 11 pages of comments worth of discussion here is undeniably a good thing.

I will say this though: as long as there are human beings, there will be war, poverty, and disease. New reasons for those problems will emerge even as we begin to solve the old ones. It's quite possible that space exploration could hold the key to solving some of those problems, and the scientific advancements that occurred as a direct result of our attempts thus far are proof of that.

We're certainly much closer to understanding and possibly solving the energy crisis thanks to space exploration. Maybe when the fear mongering and political posturing dies down a tad we can go back to living in a world where 'intellectual' isn't considered an insult.

Meh, there's going to be nothing on Mars anyway.

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sunburst313:
We need to make some serious headway on the environmental issues before we try to build cities on Luna. I'm not saying that because space travel is less important since there is nothing more important than expansion for the long-term survival of a species. It's just that the technology we invent to fix shit down here is the same technology that's going to put those cities on Mars. We shouldn't waste our time going there if we're not prepared to actually do something once we arrive. Putting humans on Mars right now would be completely pointless.

First up, its called the moon. Yes i understand that luna is another name for it, but luna sounds like a night club. Also, i like to think of it this way, the more people up there, the less people down here. I am a fan of sending people into space, but i think people get very carried away with themselves. By colonisation of the moon, it doesnt mean grand cities in the sky, it means an experiment over the course of 10-15 years in a little huddle of basic housing. People seem to think that we will instantly have huge planet spanning cities like in ME, which is ridiculous (not immpossible, not by any stretch, but certainly not achieveable straight away).

The reason being is that we've not actually got a clue what living on a different planet or moon will actually entail. For all we know it might be impossible anyway, thus making the expenditure redundant. On the other hand, it may not be any different to living on earth. We simply don't know how it will effect us as human being mentally, physically, technologically... all sorts of questions are raised when you say "colonisation".

And we may not like to think about it, but those opposed DO have two crippling arguments; whats the point and couldnt the money be used to help other people, or do something better here on earth? The first question is almost unanswerable, because we say "to further the survival of the species" and most (including myself) would turn around and say "i wasnt aware we were on the brink of extinction". The point is, the correct answer is for material wealth. Mining prospects and the chance of a better substitute for our ever dwindling supply of non-renewable sources. Hell, there may even be the chance of finding some sort of super fuel, with twice or more energy per litre of petrol or per kilo of various fossil fuels. And not to mention a possible chance of the advancement of science, with possible NEW metals and elements.
The second question however, is a bit of a finisher. The cost of these sorts of expeditions would be (excuse the pun) astronomical. And when faced with the choice of man on mars or better health care/education/economic stability, most people would opt for the latter choices. Realistically, it makes more sense, after all, we can always come back to it when we are in a better position to do so. Now for the cynic in me, im going to say that not much of the money that would be saved would make its way to the poor and needy. But it might go towards bettering the lives of at least the less fortunate or the mildly skint.

Last and not least, the idea that technology here has only been used to "make the ipod smaller". This is pure fallacy. If you actually look at the amount of things that technology has brought forward for us today, you would feel a bit embarrased for saying the only recent breakthrough is in ipod size. Fot instance, breakthroughs in medical technology and robotics have created machines that can sew up veins and arteries with ease, that the human hands would find a struggle. CAT and MRI scans can now show us the full potential of the human brain, and highlight many problems with humans before they BECOME problems. Genetic research has shown us that (although controversial) we can CREATE new organs for those in need, and indeed new HUMANS entirely. Chemical engineering has shown us we can create new material form the synthesis of two uselss ones, and that usefull metals can be extracted from nearly nothing. Not to mention various advances in renewable energy sources. The two im most excited about are the prostetic limb with THE SAME amount of movement as a human arm, with small receptors for feeling, and PLANit valley city. The city that will consume 85% of its natural waste, that will work like the human body, with brains and eyes (not literally, but brains as in receptors in every building that link to a central control that regulates that particular buildings use of water and electricity etc) with oxygen farms on every roof top.

That ladies and gentlemen, THAT is the future to me. As much as i would love to see the colonisation of mars a reality (i really do!), theres just so much to do here, and so much more usefull, but equally futuristic, endeavors that could be engaged here. PLANit valley city, to me is the way forward. From their we could use the designs for these cities and establish them on mars or the moon.

I supose that THATS my main argument: hell yes, do it... but not yet. leave it until we're better prepared or have a more stable economy to support it.

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LondonBeer:

Professor Murder:

LondonBeer:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/malign

Me, Oxford English, Websters, Random house, Collins English & every other user of the word seem to thinks its an adjective.

Yeah, I just checked it after posting. Lesson learned.

Thats OK we all make mistakes. Of course most of those mistakes can be avoided by checking what we are about to type long before its typed.

This is basically the first time I've done the spelling/grammar N*zi thing, but the time frames represented by 'about to type' and 'long before its typed' do not match up.

Also: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail89.html. Scalawag.

One more thing, (i promise not as large as my previos comment) why does everyone assume that aliens will be technologically superior? or have aburning desire to kill us? Hell, they might actually be on par with us, using weapons similar to ours, OR they might have laser weapons and space travel, but might be fasinated by the idea of say cutlery or other sciency things that we have that they dont.

Im just saying, maybe they would be worse of than us, or on par.

Of course, there IS always the possibilty that they WILL try and exterminate us. With laser guns and space ships and such.

Always room for argument...

For once I completely 100% agree with you.

And given the same question. I'd choose life on mars too. At-least that's possible. World peace isn't.

I understand your desire to want to live in Star Wars more then in the real world. I'm also glad that most politicians don't share that dream.

Jacob Haggarty:
One more thing, (i promise not as large as my previos comment) why does everyone assume that aliens will be technologically superior? or have aburning desire to kill us? Hell, they might actually be on par with us, using weapons similar to ours, OR they might have laser weapons and space travel, but might be fasinated by the idea of say cutlery or other sciency things that we have that they dont.

Im just saying, maybe they would be worse of than us, or on par.

Of course, there IS always the possibilty that they WILL try and exterminate us. With laser guns and space ships and such.

Always room for argument...

We've only got our behaviour as a parallel to judge what another sentient lifeforms actions might be, if they came in contact with us. We're anything but altruistic and while that doesn't mean that's true for all possible intelligent life. It is a good estimate.

Truth be told. If they are anything like us. They would see our species as a possible threat. And exterminate us before that threat is realised. Or maybe they'd be more like the creatures in skyline. Using life as energy and material to power their armies. They may of-course be non-hostile. But if that's true. They'd probably avoid us all together.

Also. If they've managed to reach our planet from another galaxy. Then they have to be far more technologically advanced than us. It takes us years to plan for a moon trip.

No one says all life has to be more advanced. But if they reach us. It's a given.

well said my man well said

@cathou

I can think of nothing more terrifying than TERRORISTS (ists...ists...ists) IN (in...in...in) SPACE (space...space...space)

Of course there is one major hurdle to an islamic nation going orbital. In space facing towards the holy city can get tricky.

In my view it's because the Cold War ended. When America had no more major competition there was no need to keep going to prove something.

Granted people will mention China but as we know they're no where near in the same political boat as the Soviet Union was.

One reall problem... Calcium leaking... bones can't cope with the low gravity on the moon... or on the way to Mars... Yeah so when ever they think of doing this those that go up will never be able to come back down...

Vetinarii:
One reall problem... Calcium leaking... bones can't cope with the low gravity on the moon... or on the way to Mars... Yeah so when ever they think of doing this those that go up will never be able to come back down...

there is a reason for astronauts being REALLY fit you know. what do you think the point of the ISS was?

messy:

The Stonker:

messy:
In my opinion the age of space exploration is over. The new science frontier, in my heavily biochemistry studying view, is the human genome and genetic technology. Look at a DNA molecule, that's the future.

EDIT: also giving a highly biased view of "scientists" not all of us work on making your ipods smaller. That's the fields of physics (and even then not all of physics anyway.)

2000th post as well. Rather glad it was biology themed.

You should be ashamed.
For if space is the final frontier, the big end which never ends, utopia.
For in space then you can find everything and anything, space is where almost all fields of science come and go hand in hand.
I personally love biology, but what will happen when we will have overpopulated the world and we need a new place to live on? Well...To space! But unfortunetly the nation which has the best scientists,research and such, just decided to cancel the project.
I would have cancelled loads of other things instead, to research space travel.
Yes, I love space and all science.

Ashamed? I don't think so.

Yes space is a very nice dream. But with the way things are its just not plausible at the moment. Over population I imagine was going to get to us long before we have sustainable bases on places like Mars. The distance alone makes any sort of mission. Also if we keep thinking "on to the next planet" why would we bother looking after this one? I prefer a much more sustainable living philosophy.

You should be ashamed...Biology isn't a real subject... Also... we should be putting more effort into designing bigger weapons and fighting wars to keep the population down... SRS FACE GUYS

Now in fact I want to ask what make DNA the future? I see GM as a good thing WHICH WE CAN DO ALREADY! But what else are we really looking at? The future is not really likely to be DNA is it?

mic1402:

Vetinarii:
One reall problem... Calcium leaking... bones can't cope with the low gravity on the moon... or on the way to Mars... Yeah so when ever they think of doing this those that go up will never be able to come back down...

there is a reason for astronauts being REALLY fit you know. what do you think the point of the ISS was?

Yeah but the more time spent the less likely the trip back will succeed.

ironlordthemad:
And now in my eyes Bob is a bigger, more selfish ass than before.
Seriously?
Your pissed that they are cutting the funding for a Space Program that has been in decline for a while now and has directly cost the lives of several of of your fellow human beings, so they can use the money where it will be needed in the future.
I wonder if you will have the same viewpoint if the economy of the US goes right in the shitter, causing various companies, say for example The Escapist, to fire their employees and then suddenly your out of a job because Obama put more money into sending someone into space than into fixing the economy. I doubt it.
Keeping a failing space program running is not the responsible thing to do in a global recession.

The most annoying thing about this is that your being stupidly short sighted. Your a child in his high chair looking at the candy and saying "I WANT IT NOW!" when your parents are struggling to put the potatoes on the table to keep you healthy because they can't afford it. They didn't say, "No thats it forever, no more space travel."
They simply said "We don't want to burn the cash right now, others can pick it up later if the time is right."
Getting through the boring potatoes will make the sweet candy all the tastier and it's why grown ups order the main course of the meal first. Hopefully some day you'll be able to sit at the grown up table, but with each hate speech you post I realise we wil be waiting a while longer for you to pull up a chair, which is a shame, because when you open your mind to a serious discussion, your a great champion of logic and reason.

So how about growing up Bob?
Grow up and get over your childhood, like other healthy adults, no one has a perfect childhood but we get over it as we grow up, its part of being an adult. Granted, some have have more to get over than others, but the ones that do get over it have a better life because of it.
Grow up and get over your idea of walking on Mars because you saw it in a movie as a kid and it was your only escape from your childhood.

Even if your going to claim that your childhood was darker and more traumatic than anyone can possibly imagine, do you really think you should be in the public eye giving out your opinion which has obviously been warped by your childhood?

Your fellow humans are dying of disease and famine all across the planet you share with them. Surely a narcissist like you would want to be the better man, rise above those that made your childhood your personal hell and make the planet a better place. But no, you just have your selfish dream and you are less of a person because of it. And you think you can just blow it off because people were a dick to you as a kid and now you think its your turn to get even?

Part of me hopes this video is a joke.

Really now, that is just childish. Are you done being stupid? Yes? Great.

What's a bigger waste of cash? The $18 billion NASA was allocated, or the $1 Trillion allocated to the American military? And while we're discussing money, do you know how much vital infrastructure $1 trillion could build? How many starving people that money could feed? I did some quick math and the answer is a lot.

You are aware that things developed for the space program make their way into normal, everyday use? Have you ever watched TV through a satellite connection? Have you ever used a cordless tool, or played a game using some form of joystick? Do you drink softdrink from plastic bottles? All those things came about because of the space program.

You mention Disease and Famine in your rant. Do you know how many lives have been bettered, and in some cases saved, due to medical advances brought about by this "selfish dream"?

Laser Angioplasty, Programmable Pacemakers, Ocular Screening, Voice Controlled Wheelchairs, Arteriosclerosis detection, Ultrasound Scanners, Automatic Insulin Pumps, Portable X-rays, Invisible Braces, Dental Arch Wire, Palate Surgery Technology, Clean Room Apparel, Implantable Heart Aids, MRI's, Bone Analyzers and Cataract Surgery Tools. That's the short list.

Shall I list the benefits to farming, processing, packing and manufacturing that came out of the space program? Cause that list is even longer.

This is called "The Big Picture", not "Ironlordthemad looks at the world through blinkered glasses." The big picture is that there have been vast benefits to mankind from attempting to explore space, and there is no reason to believe that more benefits wont occur just because you think the space program is a waste of money.

tokugawa98:

Aulleas123:
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Something else to chew on: I wonder if, before 1920, people ever had thoughts that journeys through the air would be privatized? Ok, most probably did, but I'm sure that some people believed that such was impossible and that it would be a disaster if anything but a federal government facility is responsible for mass transit above the clouds. Sure, today we have oversight with airport communications and the military air force, but it's still United, Continental, and Southwest that bring us from place to place.

Couldn't it be true for space as well?

I have to admit that I am not sure about the US but afaik a lot of airlines were either government-owned or -subsidized. In fact, I seem to recall that United would be out of business if not for 9/11. And what you must not forget is that essentially the *entire* air travel infrastructure is publicly created. Also, how much aviation research was done purely by private companies and/or financed by private money? Lots come from publicly funded universities (or from government subsidies, directly as in EADS' case or indirectly as in Boeing's). So this whole thing about "privatized" air travel is a bit of a fake claim.

You have a point that the infrastructure is publicly built, which is what I loosely mentioned. However almost any form of transportation is going to have some privatization along with public oversight. My whole point is that the public side is not doing so hot right now, so it would not be unreasonable for private business to pick up the pieces. Sure, it'll need public oversight, I'd be alarmed if it didn't. But every truck on the road and airplane in the air is not government owned, most of these are owned through businesses.

Also, you make a claim about research and development, I'm pretty sure that Boeing is not publicly owned. Their whole thing is creating innovation from aviation research. Some of which would be federally funded through contracts, however much of it is done through private means as well.

Air travel is a combination of necessary public oversight along with private innovation. I believe that space travel will be the same thing. After all, Chewie and Han didn't fly on a government owned starship, did they?

dathwampeer:

Jacob Haggarty:
One more thing, (i promise not as large as my previos comment) why does everyone assume that aliens will be technologically superior? or have aburning desire to kill us? Hell, they might actually be on par with us, using weapons similar to ours, OR they might have laser weapons and space travel, but might be fasinated by the idea of say cutlery or other sciency things that we have that they dont.

Im just saying, maybe they would be worse of than us, or on par.

Of course, there IS always the possibilty that they WILL try and exterminate us. With laser guns and space ships and such.

Always room for argument...

We've only got our behaviour as a parallel to judge what another sentient lifeforms actions might be, if they came in contact with us. We're anything but altruistic and while that doesn't mean that's true for all possible intelligent life. It is a good estimate.

Truth be told. If they are anything like us. They would see our species as a possible threat. And exterminate us before that threat is realised. Or maybe they'd be more like the creatures in skyline. Using life as energy and material to power their armies. They may of-course be non-hostile. But if that's true. They'd probably avoid us all together.

Also. If they've managed to reach our planet from another galaxy. Then they have to be far more technologically advanced than us. It takes us years to plan for a moon trip.

No one says all life has to be more advanced. But if they reach us. It's a given.

You are assuming of course that it is they who reach us. And as flawed as humans are, we arent THAT bad. People again seem to think that we as humans are programed to kill on sight, which simply isnt true. OK as humans we've done bad stuff to each other, but we dont constantly set out to inflict pain or misery on one and other. Have a bit of faith. Also, judging our behaviour is by no means an accurate measure of another lifeforms. What i think you mean is its the easiest to relate to.

Seriously... space is just not important.

Don't worry Bob, space exploration will come around again! And while we're waiting there's a whole lot of cool sciency stuff to screw around with!

Like genetic engineering and that huge particle accelerator and all the advances in health and umm...new Iphone Apps and HDTVs and 3DTVs and HD3DTVs.

Let's face it we're too lazy and too occupied with our new toys to give a shit about anything else.

dathwampeer:

Truth be told. If they are anything like us. They would see our species as a possible threat. And exterminate us before that threat is realised. Or maybe they'd be more like the creatures in skyline.

Wait, did you just bring up skyline as a noteworthy example?

Ewww!

LoL

To be honest, I'd much rather spend the research money on bribing official's so we can get on with cloning and stem cell research.

Space Exploration isn't dying because of it's Price tag! Space Exploration is dying because we don't NEED to explore space now. (for the record, it literally hurts me to say that since i call myself a sci-fi geek, but that is the truth.) we don't NEED to go to Mars until Earth is 50 Years away from being a Dead planet. and on that day, NASA will cook up a plan to send people to Mars in, not 20, but 5 years. There's just no benefit, or 'reason' to do it now. It's understandable.....and it sucks but what're you gonna do, right?

Jacob Haggarty:

You are assuming of course that it is they who reach us.

Yes. That's a safe assumption. Because we're a long way off interstellar travel.

No one has ever stated that if extra terrestrial life exists it must be advanced. All they say (and accurately so) is that if they made it here. They're more advanced that we are. There are plenty of fictions about aliens less technologically advanced than we are. Look at 'Alien' For god's sake.

So you essentially just brought up a completely moot argument.

And as flawed as humans are, we arent THAT bad. People again seem to think that we as humans are programed to kill on sight, which simply isnt true. OK as humans we've done bad stuff to each other, but we dont constantly set out to inflict pain or misery on one and other. Have a bit of faith.

And if we found a planet (sometime in the future) full of less developed lifeforms. We wouldn't just pop down to say 'Hiya'. We'd be looking at how we could exploit them. And if we considered them a threat. We'd kill them. This isn't some self deprecating twadle. Just look at how we treat each other. We are ruled by fear and anxiety. It's just good sense if you want to stay alive really.

Also, judging our behaviour is by no means an accurate measure of another lifeforms. What i think you mean is its the easiest to relate to.

Finally I'd like to draw you back to this

We're anything but altruistic and while that doesn't mean that's true for all possible intelligent life. It is a good estimate.

At-least read what I say.

Nomanslander:

dathwampeer:

Truth be told. If they are anything like us. They would see our species as a possible threat. And exterminate us before that threat is realised. Or maybe they'd be more like the creatures in skyline.

Wait, did you just bring up skyline as a noteworthy example?

Ewww!

LoL

Do you know why people don't like that film... Because we lost.

I'd say that film is the best expression of 'what a real alien invasion might be like' that we've ever had.

Unexpected, hopeless and in the end, unsatisfying.

No last minute hill billy heroics. No dues ex machina flu plot-lines. No underdog military exploits.

The film is majorly underrated... aside from that whole bullshit at the end.

You know, I've never really liked MovieBob's videos even though I watch pretty much everything he does. And even with his signature "I'm the only one" attitude, I really enjoyed this. I completely agreed with what he was saying. It's come as a complete shock to me that people really don't care about this kind of stuff when I would say that space travel is more important than whatever stupid political junk going on right now.

Its very hard to beleive that america as a whole doesnt truly care anymore about anything but money. Coming from a proud canadian I cant help but see all of this just by gosip and hearing it aloud just how bad the USA has gotten. I cant help but agree with everything Movie Bob has said in this video in almost everything he has done regarless either its about movies or a topic. Im brand new to this site but I've been watching this sites videos for a long time. Thank you Movie Bob if you read this, your words are very powerful and I only wish good luck in your fortune. I have a feeling if you were to take over Obama's place things in America would probebly get better since you actually have a real thought prossess which the American government doesnt. Again i could be wrong about America all together but one thing is for sure, America needs to be reset. Thank you again Movie Bob, you are a true roll model =)

AjimboB:
The problem that the space program faces is a lack of tangible goals. The reason people used to care about NASA was because of the cold war, and the goal of NASA was to beat the soviets, and show American dominance and supremacy through science. Since the Soviet Union collapsed, the US hasn't had an enemy on the same technological level as us, so most people no longer care about progressing technology, unless it's being made by Apple.

The thing about people is that most of them have no foresight, and don't care about the future. This is the EXACT SAME reason for America's recent economic collapse, people not caring about the future, borrowing and spending money that they don't have, with a live now, care later kind of attitude.

When people don't have a direct, tangible goal for the future, they forget that the future even exists, which is why this program is being shut down. This is sad.

I'll agree that people aren't caring about the future, but I disagree with all that tangible goal for the future stuff.

Going to the Moon again and setting up various things on it is a tangible goal. Going to Mars is a tangible goal. The problem is that people are either not caring for the future, or they are very short sighted about the future. In short sighted, I mean that when they think of things that are tangible for the future, they are only thinking, "Will we be able to do it in 2 maybe three years." They have this weird thinking that it if it will take 5, 10, maybe 20 years, it isn't worth it or isn't possible.

I say, "things take time people get over it."

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I've been out of the loop on any kind of news about the my nation for more than a month, I've just heard small amounts of stuff that hand nothing to do with this, so I didn't know about the retirement of the space shuttle until a few days ago. I didn't find out about NASA having it big program cut until I saw Bob's video.

I'm not surprised. I actually saw this shit coming. Mister Obama the nut, said during his campaign that he wanted to do away with government funding to NASA. Of course it was conservatives like me that actually knew his intentions were real. Everybody told us that it was crazy, that our Savior Obama would never destroy one of our country's most important scientific tools.

If people would stop drinking kool-aid from people that think like him, we wouldn't loose important things like funding for NASA's programs.

I guess it is more important to bail-out companies that aren't actually too big to fail, and creating a health care system that will be worse that the one we had.

I guess the more important subjects of mankind can be put on the back burner.

Night Knight:
Its very hard to beleive that america as a whole doesnt truly care anymore about anything but money. Coming from a proud canadian I cant help but see all of this just by gosip and hearing it aloud just how bad the USA has gotten. I cant help but agree with everything Movie Bob has said in this video in almost everything he has done regarless either its about movies or a topic. Im brand new to this site but I've been watching this sites videos for a long time. Thank you Movie Bob if you read this, your words are very powerful and I only wish good luck in your fortune. I have a feeling if you were to take over Obama's place things in America would probebly get better since you actually have a real thought prossess which the American government doesnt. Again i could be wrong about America all together but one thing is for sure, America needs to be reset. Thank you again Movie Bob, you are a true roll model =)

Well, it is the people that voted for Obama that are to blame. He said during his campaign that he was going to cut funding that NASA was using on projects like the new and improved shuttle program.

They dismissed it, they voted him in, and now we aren't going to the Moon again, or to Mars.

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