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lol, he's still criticizing FFXIII when he didn't even play it. What a douche.

Alucard832:
lol, he's still criticizing FFXIII when he didn't even play it. What a douche.

He did play it. The review was released on march 31.

Anchupom:

Antonio Torrente:

Anchupom:

Kicks?
:D

Nah, it was just me wishful thinking.

Maybe he will review it this year.

I hope so.

Will he bash it or praise it? He did liked Limbo though.

Remember children this is ben's list we have no right to criticize what is on or should be on his list just sayin.

D_987:

RobPsyence:
and the game play actually was meant to be reminescant of the older games. So saying the gameplay sucked is a copout criticism that only comes from Metroid Prime lovers...

I didn't realize really bad gameplay can be excused because it plays similarly to previous titles, guess every Lara Croft game has good gameplay then, you know, since it's reminiscent of the older games...

Gameplay comes from the scenarios produced, the games flow, and the way the character controls. Simply utilizing a similar system to an old game does not make the gameplay "good" in any way. That's an absurd argument, the rest of your post is so badly written I can't even bothered to produce counter-arguments as I'm only partially certain as to what kind of point you're attempting to make...

My post was perfectly clear and I used understandable grammar and I didn't use netspeak, just because you are a douchebag does not make my post badly written.

My MAIN Point is that Other M is supposed to be nostalgic going back to Metroid's 2D Platforming roots. It isn't using the same system, you saying that prooves your ignorance... You and others seem to think of Metroid Prime when you see Metroid...ever think that all metroid games don't have to be strictly 3d platforming? You forget that the original games are on SNES.

The rest of my post had to do with other things I've heard people complain about. One of those was that you have to find Samus' powers.. Complaining about that is stupid because that's how it is in pretty much ALL Metroid games. Another is that Samus doesn't talk, this complaint is wrong because she HAS spoken in Metroid Fusion...

Other M is supposed to connect Super Metroid with Metroid Fusion..so it makes sense to make it feel like those two Classic Games. Metroid Prime has ruined people's perceptions of what Metroid should be.

those times when she did speak in metroid fusion were still just text

RobPsyence:
My post was perfectly clear and I used understandable grammar and I didn't use netspeak, just because you are a douchebag does not make my post badly written.

Ok, let me explain something to you:

If I'm reading posts on the forum, and I see your post. I stop to read your hilarious, and abysmal logic, but find it difficult to read. If I find it difficult to read, it's difficult to read, because I'm the target audience of your post. You can argue all you want that it is untrue, but it's not - because if the very people you're trying to communicate your post to don't understand it, there's something clearly wrong, and it's on your side. Your grammar was appalling, the spelling laughable and the run on sentences dumbfounding.

My MAIN Point is that Other M is supposed to be nostalgic going back to Metroid's 2D Platforming roots. It isn't using the same system, you saying that prooves your ignorance... You and others seem to think of Metroid Prime when you see Metroid...ever think that all metroid games don't have to be strictly 3d platforming? You forget that the original games are on SNES.

Here's the thing. I think Metroid is shit. As a series, both gameplay wise, aesthetically - pretty much everything to do with the series regardless of its first person or third person gameplay style, in my opinion, has been poor. I don't care about the series, and admittedly I've only played a couple of games in it. Frankly, I was going by what you stated - in fact I quoted your point. My point, had nothing to do with Metroid in of itself, but rather the fact that claiming a new game cannot be poor simply because it attempts something earlier games apparently excelled in is laughable logic.

The rest of my post had to do with other things I've heard people complain about. One of those was that you have to find Samus' powers.. Complaining about that is stupid because that's how it is in pretty much ALL Metroid games. Another is that Samus doesn't talk, this complaint is wrong because she HAS spoken in Metroid Fusion...

[quote]Other M is supposed to connect Super Metroid with Metroid Fusion..so it makes sense to make it feel like those two Classic Games. Metroid Prime has ruined people's perceptions of what Metroid should be.

Like I stated, I don't know, nor care, about the franchise itself, that's why I specifically took the discussion away from the series by mentioning Lara Croft as an example. Why you're trying to defend the abomination that was Other M [I can tell a bad game when I see it regardless of past games] is beyond me, but whatever, if you choose to defend shit, don't be surprised when you continue to be served horrible game after horrible game.

Alucard832:
lol, he's still criticizing FFXIII when he didn't even play it. What a douche.

Yeah, because a game failing to hold someones attention for a few hours concludes it can't be criticized since they didn't finish it, right? Wait, that's moronic. If a game can't hold a players attention for a few hours then it's an appalling game and should be mocked, as is the case with FFXIII.

Could you post the video again without the music? Please? Just a quick upload somewhere.

D_987:

RobPsyence:
My post was perfectly clear and I used understandable grammar and I didn't use netspeak, just because you are a douchebag does not make my post badly written.

Ok, let me explain something to you:

If I'm reading posts on the forum, and I see your post. I stop to read your hilarious, and abysmal logic, but find it difficult to read. If I find it difficult to read, it's difficult to read, because I'm the target audience of your post. You can argue all you want that it is untrue, but it's not - because if the very people you're trying to communicate your post to don't understand it, there's something clearly wrong, and it's on your side. Your grammar was appalling, the spelling laughable and the run on sentences dumbfounding.

My MAIN Point is that Other M is supposed to be nostalgic going back to Metroid's 2D Platforming roots. It isn't using the same system, you saying that prooves your ignorance... You and others seem to think of Metroid Prime when you see Metroid...ever think that all metroid games don't have to be strictly 3d platforming? You forget that the original games are on SNES.

Here's the thing. I think Metroid is shit. As a series, both gameplay wise, aesthetically - pretty much everything to do with the series regardless of its first person or third person gameplay style, in my opinion, has been poor. I don't care about the series, and admittedly I've only played a couple of games in it. Frankly, I was going by what you stated - in fact I quoted your point. My point, had nothing to do with Metroid in of itself, but rather the fact that claiming a new game cannot be poor simply because it attempts something earlier games apparently excelled in is laughable logic.

The rest of my post had to do with other things I've heard people complain about. One of those was that you have to find Samus' powers.. Complaining about that is stupid because that's how it is in pretty much ALL Metroid games. Another is that Samus doesn't talk, this complaint is wrong because she HAS spoken in Metroid Fusion...

[quote]Other M is supposed to connect Super Metroid with Metroid Fusion..so it makes sense to make it feel like those two Classic Games. Metroid Prime has ruined people's perceptions of what Metroid should be.

Like I stated, I don't know, nor care, about the franchise itself, that's why I specifically took the discussion away from the series by mentioning Lara Croft as an example. Why you're trying to defend the abomination that was Other M [I can tell a bad game when I see it regardless of past games] is beyond me, but whatever, if you choose to defend shit, don't be surprised when you continue to be served horrible game after horrible game.

Your idiocy as a troll is amazing.

RobPsyence:

Your idiocy as a troll is amazing.

Indeed, after all, pointing out how moronic the point you made, whilst you completely mis-interpret my point, is most certainly idiotic on my half /sarcasm. -_-

D_987:

RobPsyence:

Your idiocy as a troll is amazing.

Indeed, after all, pointing out how moronic the point you made, whilst you completely mis-interpret my point, is most certainly idiotic on my half /sarcasm. -_-

No what I find idiotic, is that I made a stand alone post and you come along to pick at my opinion. Not only this, but you also don't even like the subject that my opinion is about. Also, you bitch about my grammar and writing, when there are posters with a hundred times worse grammar, spelling, and writing that you can complain about. I didn't ask for anyone's input.

Just Cause 2 was a bit of a disappointment.

dex-dex:
is the negative music the theme for clockwork orange?

Yes.
Also i'm glad kane and lynch 2 was on the bottom included with ff13 the biggest abominations of the year imo. Even halo reach has some leeway because it's not ALL bad. But I have to wonder how the camera for kane and lynch 2 was green flagged. Maybe everyone had forgotten their glasses that day.

D_987:

Alucard832:
lol, he's still criticizing FFXIII when he didn't even play it. What a douche.

Yeah, because a game failing to hold someones attention for a few hours concludes it can't be criticized since they didn't finish it, right? Wait, that's moronic. If a game can't hold a players attention for a few hours then it's an appalling game and should be mocked, as is the case with FFXIII.

I'd say that stopping halfway is really really bad for a critic since they're essentially supposed to dissect and review the ENTIRE product, and there are plenty of great games with bad openings. But then Yahtzee has always been a satirist and not a critic so.

LackingSaint:
I'd say that stopping halfway is really really bad for a critic since they're essentially supposed to dissect and review the ENTIRE product, and there are plenty of great games with bad openings. But then Yahtzee has always been a satirist and not a critic so.

That's an argument I see time and again and I'm not seeing it. If a game is still boring, after the supposed 5 hours he played it, critic or not, there's more than needed justification not to continue playing. If, in the first 5 hours, a game is poor - then it's a poor game overall, however you put it - and FFXIII doesn't change until the 30th hour and even then it goes straight back to the same style of gameplay shortly after introducing a single open space.

RobPsyence:
No what I find idiotic, is that I made a stand alone post and you come along to pick at my opinion.

You're on a forum. There's a quote button for a reason - you don't like? Don't post, or at least don't make stupid posts that are easy to pick apart.

Not only this, but you also don't even like the subject that my opinion is about.

Ok, how am I going to explain this to you? I'll try again...
The whole point of my initial post was that your point was stupid regardless of the franchise. Your point is not exclusive to the Metroid franchise, it's just a stupid point whatever the case and that's the reason I quoted you.

Also, you bitch about my grammar and writing, when there are posters with a hundred times worse grammar, spelling, and writing that you can complain about.

Worse than your original post? Not that I can think of.

I didn't ask for anyone's input.

I forgot that was how it works here. I have to ask you before I quote you... -_-

Jeff Gerstmann has been avenged!

It was disquieting to see his revenge unfullfilled, after the good reviews for K&L2.

Bioshock 2 was an unnecessary sequel. and Yahtzee made a good case in point about the reveiw. i think its fair enough that it made the list.
Star Wars is definately dead isnt it?

Maple Leaf Rag. Cool!

It would be really cool if Yahtzee got the idea of using goofy public domain songs on his video reviews from my video review. Then I could attest scientifically that the universe DOES revolve around my head.

I mean, It isn't too much of a stretch is it? It was on the gallery for the escapist contest thing.

Well, wishful thinking doesn't hurt every now and then.

D_987:

RobPsyence:
No what I find idiotic, is that I made a stand alone post and you come along to pick at my opinion.

You're on a forum. There's a quote button for a reason - you don't like? Don't post, or at least don't make stupid posts that are easy to pick apart.

Not only this, but you also don't even like the subject that my opinion is about.

Ok, how am I going to explain this to you? I'll try again...
The whole point of my initial post was that your point was stupid regardless of the franchise. Your point is not exclusive to the Metroid franchise, it's just a stupid point whatever the case and that's the reason I quoted you.

Also, you bitch about my grammar and writing, when there are posters with a hundred times worse grammar, spelling, and writing that you can complain about.

Worse than your original post? Not that I can think of.

I didn't ask for anyone's input.

I forgot that was how it works here. I have to ask you before I quote you... -_-

Just wanted to pop in and say, this has been a hilarious back and forth. Also the original Metroid wasn't on the SNES, so his argument is even more flawed than he realizes :P

People shouldn't post on forums if they can't handle somebody having a difference of opinion.

D_987:

LackingSaint:
I'd say that stopping halfway is really really bad for a critic since they're essentially supposed to dissect and review the ENTIRE product, and there are plenty of great games with bad openings. But then Yahtzee has always been a satirist and not a critic so.

That's an argument I see time and again and I'm not seeing it. If a game is still boring, after the supposed 5 hours he played it, critic or not, there's more than needed justification not to continue playing. If, in the first 5 hours, a game is poor - then it's a poor game overall, however you put it - and FFXIII doesn't change until the 30th hour and even then it goes straight back to the same style of gameplay shortly after introducing a single open space.

Agreed. While there's something to be said for finishing watching a movie/playing a game/reading a book, if you found the beginning of these things so appalling that you can't even bother to finish it, that doesn't exclude you from giving an opinion about it.

EDIT: I played Final Fantasy XIII about a few hours longer than Yahtzee did, being more of a Final Fantasy fan, and still gave up on that game. It was dull, lifeless drivel with characters we never even get to know until about two hours in (and I ended up not wanting to know once they got around to that), that required no thought beyond pushing the stick forward, and then pressing x when you got to fight something. It's the first game in the series that I despised.

SamElliot'sMustache:

D_987:

LackingSaint:
I'd say that stopping halfway is really really bad for a critic since they're essentially supposed to dissect and review the ENTIRE product, and there are plenty of great games with bad openings. But then Yahtzee has always been a satirist and not a critic so.

That's an argument I see time and again and I'm not seeing it. If a game is still boring, after the supposed 5 hours he played it, critic or not, there's more than needed justification not to continue playing. If, in the first 5 hours, a game is poor - then it's a poor game overall, however you put it - and FFXIII doesn't change until the 30th hour and even then it goes straight back to the same style of gameplay shortly after introducing a single open space.

Agreed. While there's something to be said for finishing watching a movie/playing a game/reading a book, if you found the beginning of these things so appalling that you can't even bother to finish it, that doesn't exclude you from giving an opinion about it.

EDIT: I played Final Fantasy XIII about a few hours longer than Yahtzee did, being more of a Final Fantasy fan, and still gave up on that game. It was dull, lifeless drivel with characters we never even get to know until about two hours in (and I ended up not wanting to know once they got around to that), that required no thought beyond pushing the stick forward, and then pressing x when you got to fight something. It's the first game in the series that I despised.

I've played it for about 43 hours and I still agree with Yahtzee about everything, I just happened to have a pretty good time playing it and found the combat fun despite the games flaws.

Trogdor1138:

D_987:

RobPsyence:
No what I find idiotic, is that I made a stand alone post and you come along to pick at my opinion.

You're on a forum. There's a quote button for a reason - you don't like? Don't post, or at least don't make stupid posts that are easy to pick apart.

Not only this, but you also don't even like the subject that my opinion is about.

Ok, how am I going to explain this to you? I'll try again...
The whole point of my initial post was that your point was stupid regardless of the franchise. Your point is not exclusive to the Metroid franchise, it's just a stupid point whatever the case and that's the reason I quoted you.

Also, you bitch about my grammar and writing, when there are posters with a hundred times worse grammar, spelling, and writing that you can complain about.

Worse than your original post? Not that I can think of.

I didn't ask for anyone's input.

I forgot that was how it works here. I have to ask you before I quote you... -_-

Just wanted to pop in and say, this has been a hilarious back and forth. Also the original Metroid wasn't on the SNES, so his argument is even more flawed than he realizes :P

People shouldn't post on forums if they can't handle somebody having a difference of opinion.

First of all, I wasn't talking about the first ones, jackass, I was mostly talking about Super Metroid; you know..the one that Other M takes place after. Metroid Fusion is on the GBA, which still has same control setup.

Secondly, it's not about me handling it or not. It's the fact that he's acting like a troll.

PS: Anyone that says there aren't worse posts than mine are full of shit. It's not like I was going "omg othr m iz so awsm yahtzee dat wuznt fair dere ain't nothin wrng at all man" did I? No I didn't. Also my MAIN POINT is that there are other things that are worse about the game than the gameplay.

RobPsyence:

Trogdor1138:

D_987:

You're on a forum. There's a quote button for a reason - you don't like? Don't post, or at least don't make stupid posts that are easy to pick apart.

Ok, how am I going to explain this to you? I'll try again...
The whole point of my initial post was that your point was stupid regardless of the franchise. Your point is not exclusive to the Metroid franchise, it's just a stupid point whatever the case and that's the reason I quoted you.

Worse than your original post? Not that I can think of.

I forgot that was how it works here. I have to ask you before I quote you... -_-

Just wanted to pop in and say, this has been a hilarious back and forth. Also the original Metroid wasn't on the SNES, so his argument is even more flawed than he realizes :P

People shouldn't post on forums if they can't handle somebody having a difference of opinion.

First of all, I wasn't talking about the first ones, jackass, I was mostly talking about Super Metroid; you know..the one that Other M takes place after. Metroid Fusion is on the GBA, which still has same control setup.

Secondly, it's not about me handling it or not. It's the fact that he's acting like a troll.

PS: Anyone that says there aren't worse posts than mine are full of shit. It's not like I was going "omg othr m iz so awsm yahtzee dat wuznt fair dere ain't nothin wrng at all man" did I? No I didn't. Also my MAIN POINT is that there are other things that are worse about the game than the gameplay.

Oh okay, you said first game so I figured you were talking about Metroid. Don't call me a jackass just because you can't phrase things properly...

I actually like the original Metroid games but I'm yet to try out Other M, I'm looking forward to the gameplay aspects to see how they handle the more throwback approach, but can't say I'm fond about what people have told me about the story.

I wasn't expecting Just Cause 2 to be his number 1 at all.
O_o

but still, Ive played 2 games from the top 5 and i haven't played any games from the the bottom 5. I think I'm on the right track.

Why is "Just cause 2" in 1-st place ? ......... JUST CAUSE !!!!! :D

This is what I was thinking! I love yahtzee, but he just like most other people I know seem to be hating on it. Bioshock 2 was definately not as good as Bioshock 1 but it was still a great game and a remarkable experience in Rapture.

It's a shame that so many people were ticked off because the game took place in Rapture again, and so now Irrational's taking it to some god aweful place in the sky. Rapture is Bioshock, and some people need to get used to it because the second Bioshock leaves Rapture Sh-s gonna hit the fan.

Trogdor1138:

Oh okay, you said first game so I figured you were talking about Metroid. Don't call me a jackass just because you can't phrase things properly...

I actually like the original Metroid games but I'm yet to try out Other M, I'm looking forward to the gameplay aspects to see how they handle the more throwback approach, but can't say I'm fond about what people have told me about the story.

Okay, I'm sorry for calling you a jackass. The only part of the story I didn't like was that she was scared of ridley because he attacked her when she was a child. Other than that, it basically picks up from the end of Super Metroid and then explains what happened to Adam, running into Metroid Fusion's story (in Fusion, the computer Samus interacts with).

I dont mind that Samus talks in Other M, I just wish they had picked a better voice actress lol.

The problem with Yahtzee is even when he's serious I still think he's joking.

Bioshock 2 and FF13 worse than Dark Void, Dead to Rights, Tron Legacy, Splatterhouse, Majin? he reviewed five games himself that were far worse than most of his bottom 5 games.

The problem is Yahtzee takes everything too seriously, as in, bioshock 2 being an affront to his love of Bioshock 1, and hating the idea of it more than whether or not it was well exectuted (which it wasn't, not even close, but it certainly wasn't a bad game)
which is probably why he'll bitch about Portal 2 even if it kicks ass (he'll come up with a lame excuse like calling it racist ala Uncharted 2).

It's fun to watch him hate bad and mediocre games, or picking apart genuine problems with games, but lately he reaches more than I'd hoped.

still, love the show and the guy.

Rex, guess you haven't heard about Bioshock 3 (bioshock infinite) which takes place in a floating city. The 10 min gameplay released makes bioshock 2 look like a steaming pile of shit. Hell, I'd hesitate to say the atmosphere is just as good if not better than 1 (which is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE games) And it's from Ken Lavine, the real mind behind rapture.

teh_Canape:
I must be the only one who actually likes Bioshock 2

No you weren't the only one. I liked it too.

I would try out Dead Rising and Dead Rising 2 if it weren't for one thing:

I made the horrible, horrible mistake of renting the wii version of Dead Rising. I hate that franchise now.

That, and:
TIME LIMITS. I don't like time limits, unless it's an escape scenario or something.

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