Critical Miss: Y Ddraig Cach

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she is so cute in second picture...
i will never memorize the names of this cartoon..... (arg)

As a born and bred and proud Welshman who speaks the great Welsh language, I find this strip really...offens-nah, I actually find it funny. :)

Apart from one or two Welsh politicians, no-one in Wales, including myself, wants the Welsh Dragon on the Union Jack. No point.

P.S. The title of this strip says 'The Shit Dragon'.

Grey Carter:
Critical Miss: Y Ddraig Cach

In which our protagonist's terrible secret is revealed.

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Now before you get offended. I actually quite like the Welsh. I find the dreadful manner they're presented in films like Lord of the Rings to be totally heavy handed and unacceptable.

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On a serious note; In case you didn't get it, the strip is actually making fun of the English (because God knows we don't do that enough) and their bizarre relationship with the rest of the island. As someone pointed out, every nation on the British Isles hates each other, hates England collectively (even England hates England) and only collaborates when we come across the French (whom we hate) or the Americans (whom we also hate)

Hey where did you get that family photo of the trip to NZ? Those were some fun times :P

CitySquirrel:

Rainboq:
X3 Judging by her expression and comment, she is

Fair enough!

I went to school in Canada... lovely country.

I live there X3

For all my fellow Englishers out there. The title of the strip was originally going to be 'Y ddraig llwy' but I figured the reference might be a little obscure.

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Irridium:
Hey now, thats not true. Canada gives us Maple Syrup and LoadingReadyRun. So they do contribute to the world.

And strapping young lad, and protest the hero, and Dinosaur comics.

Wales gave us...

Um, bullet for my valentine.

Way to go, ya jerks. :p

This topic has actually annoyed me when I read it else where, The mail had a report about this that made my skin crawl.

I can't say I or anyone i really know wants or massively cares about the Ddraig being on the Union jack, most of the people who do are the Plaid Cymru arseholes who no one apart from the people trying not to seem racist takes seriously anyway.

I'm not basing this off the comic since, well its a Comic, but the news papers reports of "THE WELSH WANT" is just more of the usual stuff the British 'Press' keep pumping out to try and keep the 'Them Vs Us' thing going on, how often do you see the FAR more popular version of this which usually contains the word 'MUSLIMS', which only leads to people thinking we all think like this.

Just to clear something up Yes, S4C is utter shit, no one watches it, even people who speak welsh, all of the shows are awful and have no production value what's so ever, the only slightly useful program (Welsh football) could be better done on the red button or on-line. Yes small towns and councils getting massive cash hand outs is irritating, esp when most English councils are struggling and even if you keep it inside of Wales places like Newport and The Pembrokeshire cost national park need the money more. The welsh languish at least has history and can be learned quite easily, And compared to English, which basicly what would happen if you took every other language in the world, and fired it out of a cannon. Yes Charlotte Church comes from here, and yes we're sorry. Yes the signs being in Welsh and English is also a waste of time, No one only speaks welsh any more and if that is the case they can Piss off and learn English like the rest of us. The Pembrokeshire national Park is by far one of the most beautiful places in Britain so its defiantly not an eye saw, We import the vast majority of our sheep into England, so if we do molest them it seems its catching on. No really, sorry about Church, We have no excuses there, but we do ask you apologise for Westwood while were doing this. Yes we all hate the "ll" 'letter' as well, how can then mean Thhhhh, STOP BEING SILLY.

And a Few more things. No one really hates the English that much, growing up mind i did hate the majority of your tourists mind, you seemed to send all of your drunk, violent chavs over here so you can have the weekend off. Oh and If your American and come here please don't do a God damn Dick Van Dyke accent when trying to insult us.. That doesn't even make sense in London anymore never mind Haverfordwest.

Oh and in jokey retort, yeah we are the Canada of The UK, We have lower crime in most places, no awful new Fees hike and a far better standard of life then the *word* next door. So HA.

Dammit. The first panel made me think of this until I realized that I was yet again listening to another rant from Shaun Hastings from Assassin's Creed.

Being English, this struck an especially resonant chord with me. Great stuff.

Grey Carter:
For all my fellow Englishers out there. The title of the strip was originally going to be 'Y ddraig llwy' but I figured the reference might be a little obscure.

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You also gain 30 Points for the credits reference.

The last three strips were amazing.

"A Stigma..A scourge...They are...Our Canada.." Brilliant!

The Real Sandman:
.___.

Do I have to be knowledgeable about... something?

Because I don't get it.

Help please?

Count me in as well, I didn't get this joke at all personaly... D:

Why does this comic strip remind me of a whole phone rage from Desert Bus for Hope in which i asked a Person on the phone (seriously no idea who it was) and i asked the person "Is Wales even a country anymore" and they went on some rage about it so Kathleen changed topic XD

But seriously Wales to England is what New Zealand is to Australia, they are kinda just....there

TheGuy(wantstobe):
Nice use of getting crap past the censors. For those who don't know any welsh cach is shit and haliwr is wanker :P

edit: the title is In Dragon Shit

hahaha!! Brilliant :D I thought I recognised cach as it's very similar to the word in Irish... not totally sure of the spelling, though, it sounds very similar.

Ah, the old English people hating the Welsh thing... Not sure I quite see what's so bad, but then again I assume the English masses think Wales is basically Little Britain and Gavin and Stacey.

Grey Carter:
For all my fellow Englishers out there. The title of the strip was originally going to be 'Y ddraig llwy' but I figured the reference might be a little obscure.

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Clangers and the Soup Dragon? I love you.

Grey Carter:
For all my fellow Englishers out there. The title of the strip was originally going to be 'Y ddraig llwy' but I figured the reference might be a little obscure.

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YES!

Also you get 30 points for the Credits reference.

I would urge England to keep identifying with the Americans at every corner. Mabye if you fight enough of their wars, and adopt enough of their bad habits, you can also have an epic economic failure and alienate yourselves from the rest of the world.

And Wales! Feel free to come by for some free fresh water, food, oil and money. We have plenty here in Canada.

Love,

Winnipeg.

I humbly apologize to all offended welsh escapists....cause i Lol'd at the punchline.

Also, isn't the Escapist Canadian? or atleast the LRR crew? Who else wants to see a welsh LRR short?

WingedFortress:
I would urge England to keep identifying with the Americans at every corner. Mabye if you fight enough of their wars, and adopt enough of their bad habits, you can also have an epic economic failure and alienate yourselves from the rest of the world.

And Wales! Feel free to come by for some free fresh water, food, oil and money. We have plenty here in Canada.

Love,

Winnipeg.

Bah! We were hating on the rest of the world when America was still a twinkle in the eye!

Lord_Panzer:

icyneesan:
lolz Englande

Keith K:
I fail to see how Wales and Canada are comparable.

We've got sheep humper problems, local law enforcement does what it can, but its not looking so good for farmers.

In Manitoba, maybe, where there's nothing else to do. The rest of us can occupy ourselves just fine.

Strip was kinda funny and kinda "...enhhh?"

Theres plenty to do in manitoba... if you like snow hockey and the cold(and the forks)
There is also a lot of welsh in manitoba...

The Canadian equivalent: "They are... Our Quebec!"
Or, if you're Quebecois, "They are... Our Alberta!"

Daystar Clarion:
Bah! We were hating on the rest of the world when America was still a twinkle in the eye!

Like father, like son, right?

She's one of them?!
*Gets the holy water, and shotgun with silver bullets*

Excuse my ignorance. In what country does the comic strip take place?

Danial:
Oh and If your American and come here please don't do a God damn Dick Van Dyke accent when trying to insult us.. That doesn't even make sense in London anymore never mind Haverfordwest.

...Are people really that stupid?

mad825:
Wales "our Canada"? I would say it's Scotland.

Nahhh, Scotland's our 'The South'.

OT: Speaking as someone living in Wales, I loved it. Will definitely be checking back in future for what I hope will be more great strips.

huh, your comment in the comments was actually funnier than the strip which wasn't bad. Wasn't expecting that.

El Poncho:
There was a welsh guy shouting at my friend over COD, my friend shut him up when he said Wales was just a DLC for England xD

That actually made me laugh aloud.

I don't suppose having a dragon on the Union-Jack would be too bad, as long as it somewhat resembles Godzilla.

I'm surprised no-one picked up the very last bit of writing on the article, I think it maybe more obscure than the Clangers reference.

Cory Rydell and Grey Carter are all over the front page, they give you road rrrrage

A line from what I think [personally] are the best band to come out of Wales. [And thats coming from a self proclaimed metal head]

Dragon passant Gules on field BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN WOOOOOO!

Er, yeah. Sorry.

While I like the Welsh flag just fine, you couldn't really just slap the dragon on the Union Flag. It'd be too busy, and just try finding a color that doesn't either blend too much or clash too badly.

crotalidian:
...Is this actually a real thing that is happening?

I lived in Wales for 3 years and from that experience it is clear that the Welsh have no interest in being part of the Union Jack (or even the UK) the flag is never seen. As English people we are forced to use the 'British' flag because our beloved cross of St George has a nationalist stigma attached to it.

Wales is worse than Canada, they are self governed with their own budget and funds but also get tax money from England (we dont see any of theirs). and they have representatives on our parlaiment to help decide how we spend our money but English members cannot sit on the Welsh parliament (to decide how they spend our money).

I am so glad to have moved to the US. with all its problems at least we doint have to deal with this idiotic system. /rant

ummm we have that in the US too...its called purto rico....and a few other places really

HAHAHA this had me cracking up xD

apologies to Canada (my ex was Canadian so I *could* make it personal :p lol)

I'm Welsh, lived here all my life and I found this strip to be funny. Actually the first strip I've ever seen, just because I was curious of the Welsh title.

As for the Dragon on the Jack, it isn't needed. It's on our flag and identifies us pretty well and actually means something in terms of Welsh history and culture. So it wouldn't make sense to be on the flag itself. There's a bit of red on the Jack, that'll do. Even if it is just basically the English flag.

EDIT:

Didn't notice the Catatonia reference at the bottom of the article. That's brilliant.

Swaki:
i had to google union jack, i thought he was talking about the comic, which sounded awesome.

but i get it, it would be like someone putting the horrible colours of *sweden* into my beloved dannebrog.

Not really, Dannebrog getting the colours of Sweden would be like the Union Jack mixing with the French flag.

lacktheknack:

Daystar Clarion:
Bah! We were hating on the rest of the world when America was still a twinkle in the eye!

Like father, like son, right?

Nah, we were doing it when the rest of Europe was doing it. That was the norm back then. Britian was just the best at being an arsehole :)

There's no excuse in this day and age.
I'm looking at you America...

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