Due to the whole too expensive to release in full thing, its one of the few series where its almost justifiable to just torrent the whole thing.
I love me some Mystery Science Theatre 3000. Back when my brother and I were bridging the gap between rambunctious children to awkward teenagers, that was a focal point he and I could share and laugh at while still feeling like we were trying to be adults.
I honestly think that if I hadn't randomly stopped on an episode one Saturday afternoon however many years ago, I wouldn't enjoy Unskippable as much as I do.
SOOOO glad you mentioned RiffTracks. My Fiance and I love it. Great work as always.
Back when I was in highschool in the dark mysterious 90's I used to tape MST3K, I still have 4 VCR tapes of episodes, to bad no VCR. I miss this show, its where I got my sense of humor to, Whenever I say, "If you're like me and I know I am..." is awesome.
I can tell you where to see mst3k, download second life then do a search for mst3k theater, its got every episode of it and they regularly do theme nights or play rifftrax
really it was the only thing I used sl for, for the longest time and its why I still miss sl now that I dont use it anymore
Wow! another enlighting episode bob thanks.
And here is where I bait the trolls by saying I never really liked Mystery Science Theater 3000.
A big reason being the jokes weren't funny in the dozen or so episodes I watched before giving up, but that can easily be countered by the argument "maybe you just caught the twelve bad episodes." Which may be true, but the concept behind the show was one I couldn't get behind either. Sure making fun of a bad movie might be entertaining, but that still forces me to watch a bad movie. Why would I want to do that?
Not to mention the way a show like that has to work requires waiting for periods of silence in the movie to make the joke in, and that just breaks flow. It's the same problem RiffTrax and The Film Crew have, as well as any of its other clones, including the Escapist's own Unskippable. And I know Graham and Paul are funny, I watch (and laugh at) their other stuff, but have never once laughed at Unskippable.
Granted this is all just my opinion, but I sometimes wonder what the appeal was in Mystery Science Theater 3000? Unique, yes; but "unique" doesn't explain why those who love it as much as they do love it as much as they do. After watching this, I can conclude there apparently is no explaining this show's appeal.
I own the Movie on VHS, and I've gotten several episodes through netflix. I pretty much only remember the last 3 seasons on SciFi channel back when it was good (relatively).
TV is weird? Chuckles! Quite the opposite. Now at least, anyway.
Now, you get TV populated with "safe" material, like endless streams of soaps (Eastenders, Neighbours etc), a veritable tsunami of "cop" or forensic drama (24, Spooks, NCIS) American sitcom shows (Two and a Half Men, King of Queens, Everybody Loves Raymond) cliché sci-fi programs that nobody watches anymore (Star Trek, Stargate, Farscape) can you see where i'm going with this? Hell, not long ago it was nothing but reality TV. Oh, and did you know here in jolly old England we still have the yearly ritual of the X-Factor, Strictly Come Dancing, and Dancing on Ice? Bleh. Ew. It's all "safe" programmes. Stuff the audience at large is comfortable with and know. Absolutely nothing weird ever really happens in any of those programs and that's how i see it for the foreseeable future. That's the state of the television listings, i'm afraid.
What's that you say? Sometimes you get stupidly long series that perpetuate themselves well beyond the sell-by-date? Okay, so you have your Heroes and your Lost. But there was nothing weird about those shows. Not really. Granted i didn't watch either of them (because they didn't interest me in the slightest), but as far as i could tell they all boiled down to one simple element - human drama and interaction. You've got your same soap stories, just presented in a different context. Like, say, a jungle island... or that the characters have one ability that makes them a bit special. Hell, even Walking Dead turned out to be about the drama between the survivors in the camp. For the two episodes i watched, i hardly saw any zombie slaying action or anything weird at all. You had your one or two token zombies show up, then it's back to camp for more drama. Someone's gone missing, or someone is throwing a tantrum. It's using tired mechanics to tell its story, the same "safe" delivery that programming has been feeding us for years.
Honestly, i have trouble even thinking of something as legitimately weird as how you described MST3K.
Bob, I wholeheartedly approve of this video. We should... have an invention exchange sometime. Yes, an invention exchange. My invention? Oh, it's over here in this rocket. Oh, Frank's just standing next to the controls as a... precautionary measure.
Hobgoblins, hobgoblins! What do you do with those hob-goblins?
To those new to the show here's a list of some of my favorites
Prince of Space
SEASON 7 (All of it)
Werewolf "Eh, I'd take a walk" OVER TO KIRK DOUGLAS' HOUSE!
Godzilla vs Megalon
and so many more...
You forgot Hobgoblins!
(fighting with rakes) "YEAH, REALLY REALLY KILL HIM!!"
(sorry if that's on season 7, I don't know which episodes are on which season; I've only seen a few MST3K episodes, those which I could find on Youtube)
I heart MST3K. It kinda sucks, because I've shown it to all my friends, and none of them really like it. Sigh.
Huh. So that's what MST3K is. I've somehow managed to spend my entire life not seeing this show in any way, shape or form. Not even on accident. Probably it's because I haven't owned cable TV until about a year or two ago.
Sadly, now that I know about it, it doesn't seem like it would be anything I'd honestly enjoy, for many reasons I'm not going to discuss right now.
OH GOD! most of you might not know, but they make quite a few jokes that people from Wisconsin really get.
This was out of left field but I really enjoyed this episode. As you might guess, I'm also a long time fan of Mystery Science 3000 and I had moments where I wanted to purchase the episodes on dvd. As I had found out, just getting a box set of around 5 to 10 episodes cost up in the 50 dollar range. Also, I was very heart broken when the series ended on the scifi channel and I did send the network an e-mail asking why they wouldn't do episodes with some up to date films they could make fun of. Well, it seems they were thinking the same thing with rifftrax and cinematic titanic. Good work Bob.
I think I substituted MST 3000 with Red Dwarf. ;)
Thank you Bob
This was a truly worthy homage to a very important show. This show helped shape my sense of humor as a kid/teen (much to the delight of my wife). We still catch shows on Netflix, but there was just something about being able to see this on Sunday mornings on cable that made it very special to me.
I was considered a nerd for liking this show, and I was also the only one I knew who'd watch it. It wasn't until I was well into my 20's that I found another person who enjoyed MST3k.
Cinematic Titanic is probably more fun as a live show. I've attended two of their San Francisco performances, and they have a couple more scheduled for this year.
What makes the live performances unique is their interaction with a live audience. Their SF performance of Blood of The Vampires took place shortly after the 2008 presidential elections. At one point, when a stone casket is opened, Joel quips, "Oh, it's Sarah Palin's tanning bed." It got a modest laugh, at which point a mildly indignant Joel turns to the audience and says, "Oh, come on! That killed two months ago!"
i know you probably wont read this bob but i can tell you how happy i am you at least brought mst3000 back to the masses i watched the show since i was in kindergarten and have been a huge fan ever since. i still dig them out for my friends and they all love it. hell were having a party soon just to watch "the movie" with an ice bar. keep up the good work bob!
I knew there was a reason I liked your sense of humor, Bob.
And, it's been alluded to in posts before this one, but there are a TON of the episodes up for instant streaming on Netflix now. I've been having a blast reliving some of my old favorites, and even managed to catch a couple that I had never seen before.
And, yeah. They kind of helped form my sense of humor as well.
And one last note: Fuck Comedy Central for the way they treated that piece of television comedy genius.
To quote Dr. Forrester: "POOPIE"
This (and its spin-offs like riff-trax) and Cheap seats are the only ones to get the commentary jokes right.
Cheap seats if you've never seen it
I love Cheap Seats. It is probably my favorite show.
OT: MST3K is a really good show that I only learned about because I was curious about what Shamus(Spoiler Warning and a whole mess of stuff on the escapist) was talking about when he wrote Mst3k on one of the Spoiler Warning videos descriptions.
Ah, good old MST3K. God I love that show. Unfortunetly, it got screwed over one too many times.
Executive assholes... >_<
Netflix has a TON of THEM !!!
We'll be reaching speeds of three!!!!
I first got into MSTs through an odd source: fanfiction. Back when authors didn't have the world's thinnest skin, you could see bad fics getting riffed and some (I'm sure) wrote crap just to be riffed (never look up the Sailor Moon fanfic "Artimis' Lover" if you value your sanity). I just had to watch the show. The movies often didn't quite resonate, but the shorts are great, and Mr B Natural still haunts my nightmares.
A correction and addition though:
As of now and counting upcoming releases, around half of MST3K has hit DVD in one form or another. Not exactly a small number. Not perfect, but pretty good given what they have to deal with.
There's one more outlet I understand missing. There's a Canadian version called This Movie Sucks currently being aired on a few chanels. (It sadly seems to have been short lived, but re-runs are still on) Canada's smartassed puppet Ed the Sock (my avatar) riffs on the films with semi-professional cosplayer Liana K (wife to Ed's puppeteer and voice) and comedian Ron Sparks. The jokes are cruder and more mean spirited (Ed's the kind of guy to point out the first death in Killer Shrews was predictable due to the character being black) but it's been a good substitute. Still on and potentialy savable. Check your local Canadian listings or Movieola in Canada on Saturday nights around midnight.
MST3K had some good jokes, but I could never watch it. Why? Because you had to sit through a crap movie to hear the jokes, which were not constantly great and not in enough quantity to drown out the crap movie.
I get the appeal, but no thanks to the show.
I LOVED MST3K back in the day, and am a big RiffTrax fan now. For Christ's sake, RiffTrax even made the Twilight movies good - what can't it do?
Manos... The Hands Of Fate
WOOO, Packers won the Super Bowl, WOOOO
One of my favorite shows to review. Thank goodness Shout! took over, otherwise I wouldn't be getting screeners to regularly.
TL;DR version: Whoo, I love MST3K too! And I like both Joel and Mike. That being said...
YEA! MiSTies unite! Oh, thank you Bob, you've made me very happy. I actually cruising through The Human Duplicators when I saw this vid was up. This show was such an integral part of my childhood. I remember I was like 12 or so, and my dad called me upstairs because "something funny is on". That one episode was all it took (I finally found out it was Season 3, episode 306, Time of the Apes. "That door was locked for a reason!") to make me and my dad fans for life.
It was the show that I really bonded with my dad over; he'd let me stay up late to watch the show and we'd tape every single one we could and watch them again when nothing good was on. And it was fairly educational in some ways. When I was younger, a lot of the riffs went over my head, so dad would explain the references to me. As I got older, it was wonderful when I began to get on a more even keel with my dad, and a greater pleasure when HE wouldn't get a joke, and I would have to explain it to him! XD
Nowadays we watch Rifftrax and laugh our butts off, because even without the puppets, it's still good ol' Mike, Kevin (Tom Servo), and Bill (Crow) playing your navigators through the movie. But we've also go most of the MST3K boxsets available, so we pop those in and rewatch them too.
There's so many episodes I wish were on DVD, but almost all the episodes are up on youtube. And it's one of the few cases I'll watch a show on youtube like this. After all, it was the MST3K crew themselves who said to "keep circulating the tapes" at the end of every episode; I think in this case this is in the spirit of that. (Of course, I guess Viacom and whoever else still have the legal final say, so some of the eps get taken down. I want to watch The Magic Sword again!) But I'm always ready to give these guys money for anything they do, whether it's MST3K boxsets, Rifftrax MP3s, or going to see Rifftrax Live in theaters.
Plus, this is the one case on Youtube where the comments for the videos are actually fun discussions! If MST3K can gather Youtube commentators who don't act like the lowest common denominator of humanity, then it proves that MST3K is a beacon of justice and goodness in this world.
One thing I don't get is the Joel/Mike split. I can't really choose one over the other. I suppose I'm more of a Mike girl, but I like both in the end. And now when I'm watching, I have the luxury of going with whatever my preference happens to be. Joel was a bit dry and snarky with a bit of a hipster attitude who didn't seem to get fazed by much, while Mike was a naive, lovable goofhead. Mike tended to have a lot more energy and charisma, but Joel was the base, the original. To me, it's like arguing who was the better Crow, Trace Beaulieu or Bill Corbett. Both were great and brought their own twist to the character.
Plus, there's fact that Mike was the head writer, so most of what Joel said came from Mike anyway. And Mike had some great bit characters in some of the Joel episodes. I think most will say Torgo, but I think my personal favorite is from the Crash of the Moons episode, where Mike played the overly friendly character in the movie played by John Banner, a.k.a Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heroes. (Go to 2:40 in the vid)
Anyhow, to finish, here's my favorite episodes:
Pod People (Well, come on. Your breakfast is getting cold, and she ain't getting any warmer.)
Tormented (Tom Stewart killed me!)
Beatniks (I'm gonna Moon ya, see?!)
The Magic Sword (Must...get to...crappy...special effect!)
Hercules and the Captive Women (Today is dedicated to Uranus!)
Manos: The Hands of Fate (tHe MasTeR wANts yOu BUt hE caN'T HavE YoU!)
The Head that Wouldn't Die (Jane in a pan, are you still here?)
Teenage Strangler (Oh, Jimmy!)
The Thing that Couldn't Die (Here comes the bride, she's outta her friggin mind)
The Incredible Melting Man (Achgah!)
Night of the Blood Beast (Steve?)
Jack Frost (You moron, you're a worthless piece of crap, like something I scrap off my shoe! Duh huh duh hoi, here comes Jack Frost, you're
Hamlet (What is it, Cold Water on the Groin-I mean, Polonius?)
Outlaw (Why did I come dressed as a cardinal?)
Space Mutiny (Sting, Debbie Reynolds, and God)
It wasn't shitting on other people's art, as much as it was "let's not take art so seriously for a little while and try to get some laughs." With Rifftrax, the guys have done Best Picture winners because sometimes, some people find silliness fun.
You didn't like it, and that's cool, but just because I don't like the taste of Indian food doesn't mean I have no respect for people who do.
P.S. Fraggle Rock was awesome!
Oh, and Bob. If I wasn't already married, this episode alone might make me hop on the commuter rail and propose to you!
How nerd was I...senior year, I hosted an after Prom party that was an MST3K marathon. How cool was I...SO many people came to it and had a blast!
Oh hell yes! This show is seriously underappreciated, especially with all the terrible shows that keep coming out nowadays. I'm seriously glad I was able to find all the episodes online now that it's virtually impossible to find any hard versions anymore. And what the hell Comedy Central? You don't even acknowledge that it was even on your channel when it was undeniably one of your best shows?!