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True. Among other things about the assumption I dubbed your last answer a rage-post BECAUSE OF the Capslock. The general writing style, content and overused "I need to defend my franchise"-arguments earned you that. The Capslock is merely one of those petty little annoyances one can rag on about.
What to say, I like to put my eye for detail and my experience to use. And I dare to say that this "little comment" shows anything but relaxation.
Well, if you wish I could start talking about that and many more aspects that reek to me of terrible decision-making. Yes, I too never got much into the whole Superhero-MMOG-Scene, simply because even CoH was too much of those spandex-heroes for me. But this is really a point where I completely disagree with your argumentation, that a similar....foundation for the setting's background equals an almost identical game.
Yes, standardized cop-out Nr. chooseanumber. The infamous "suspense of disbelief". Time for a little trip. I don't know what the original one went like or where it came from, but there's a saying that roughly goes along the lines of "Too much of anything is bad for you". So far I figured out that Green Lantern isn't just one guy, but many guys, the green lantern corps. Wether they are some sort of lineage or if there are several green lanterns at a time, I don't know. They get their powers from a ring. Where does that ring come from, why does it give those power and how did this corps got it? I don't know. The rings power manifests in the ability to create anything the wielder can imagine in the form of "green energy". How exactly does that work, why, under which conditions? Not a clue. Now let's return to said trailer. Honestly, I don't even want to pick it apart bit by bit unless someone actually demands it, since it'd be a lot of text. The point is ultimately, that within this game and the trailer in particular we are no longer just asked to suspend our disbelief, they just toss so much stuff at us in a short time that is just so inexplicably nonsensical, it's more like "Ah, hell, do whatever you want, I stopped paying attention." Oh and actually that flightsimulator-burn? First and only of your attempts in this matter so far I found interesting.
Actually, the DEATHS of those heroes were the only thing they didn't make gritty. They're just making the setting and characterization gritty. Not to create drama or an atmosphere of tension, for that there just happens too much in a very short time. There's no weight to those heroes' death, they just make their appearances for the fans and then get tossed off-screen, like items on a checklist. It's just this typical scenario: Surveys probably showed that teens nowadays like "cool", gritty, punisher-like settings, so let's turn it into that. It's not really that I tried to apply my "high standards" on this trailer, it's rather that it's quality is so unbelievably low, it's basically nonexistant. And about my behaviour towards the lemmings cheering for it, you're damn right about that. Because if I can't ask for better-quality entertainment with absolut conviction, I couldn't, in good conscience, expect the same from the industry and the rest of the community. It's one of those life-experience things: Smart player: "Wow, [product x] is awful. It really is just mediocre at best. The flaws are so obvious, I could actually proove the poor quality scientifically." And Smart Player thought 'Ah well, if he enjoys blinky lights, why not let him?'.
One of these days, someone has to explain to me, why someone who utters critisizm about something
Hey, you faceplanted yourself full speed with an attempt to burn me through the use of one of my own statements. Even lightened that faceplant up by doing it within a PS. And it would've been avoilable REALLY easily....by not reading and writing under he influence of high levels of adrenaline. Like, if you were....relaxed.
Okay, seriously? Did you just actually bring up the lamest and...voidest cop-out in the history of...well...everything? But at the end of the day it would still be nothing but shit. And the people who paid for it are ultimately nothing but some weird, easily satisfied guys with no standards who just paid a crapload of money for shit in bags...with pictures of Superman and Wonderwoman on it.
Considering that thing that's called pattern recognition, I'd wager you're in for a big disappointment. | |
"Lo I have been struck" HAHAHA I remember the repetitive combat dialogue was especially bad in Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions
I remember seeing the Star Wars trailer...so epic, so crips, so enticing...then I found out it was an MMO and realized that nothing in the trailer would be translated to gameplay exactly bahaha...sighh | |
PPpppfxxaaxaaxaxa man my stomach hurst from laughing. | |
I was just being picky. I had figured seeing as how you concluded as opposed to assumed or surmised, that you actually played the game, and saw for a fact that it was boring and repetitive. | |
So anyone that disagrees with you is attacking you? Hmm. And remind me how easy is it to discredit opposing arguments as a "cop-out"? Ironically (wink), it seems that cop-out is the choice to not do something. Much like your decision dismiss reasoning in defending your statements, instead opting to use phrases like cop-out. No I don't need to defend the franchise. Heck I dont care if you play it or not. However statements like
may be a little over the top. Many, many people are enjoying the game currently. A lot of people are still curious about it. And here you and your blanket statement "it's bad and shouldnt be bought" may actually lead some of the astray. Sure I'd had my own ideas about how the game would be when I first heard about it and envisioned it in my head. Sure not everything matched up 1to1 when I actually played the game, but for one, I had been playing some nice MMO gameplay, it had been over a year since my last online rpg (Demon Souls notwithstanding) and seeing how this one was Massive, and actiony, it's fitting the bill.
haha I like your style ^_^
Sorry to say it, but you're gonna end up taking that trip by yourself this time. I can't really follow you on that, seeing as how... well I dont really have a problem of them making some shit up about the Green Lanterns. I dont really care. Some comic booky stuff, fine. Whatever. As long as I can continue to lvl up. If the Lanterns and the Sinestros were out there armwrestling for dollars I couldn't care less (I was more of a Marvel fan anyways :-/ )
not to disrespect you or your argument, but ok, for the sake of brevity, you don't like the movie. I'm not going to make you like it. Ps I see where you are going with the shooter franchise thing, but that doesnt really apply here. I prefer Battlefield.
Of course I did. I welcome your opinion and your criticism. I was also trying to bait you into writing retorts, i guess you could say I was trolling (mildly).
...in an debate about videogames, where entertainment is the objective. Not only that i'd guess its more of a subjective objective.
Sure if that's your thing.
Now that just sounds venomous. The developers promised monthly content (and this can continue in a discussion for DLC if you like) and I still don't know if Penguin is in the game. If you are a DC fan, perhaps you could school me to some other big name baddies, the biggest DC one I know would be Darkseid (Doomsday is in the game already) The content this month will feature Catwoman, as well as a new Bane duo which (from what I heard) would be a pretty tough run. One thing I never bothered to ask though, and now in hindsight this may prove to be relevant, as you said that you played for a couple of weaks before getting bored... were you playing on the PC or the PS3? | |
Keep it up yahtzee,always refreshing to hear your views. | |
How they thought they could get away with a superhero based MMORPG with LESS character-generation options than City of Heroes is mind-boggling. Once you get a cool feature like that there's no going back. It's like going from dating Jezebel the Wonder-Nympho to an accountant who only does handies once a week. Since the only cool aspect of the game is creating your own superhero, why wouldn't they allow you to actually create what you want? | |
Meh , the game is pretty fun , quite refreshing to have a MMO-button masher. PVE and PVP is really refreshing compared to other indirect combat MMOs. One problem with it burns itself out quite quick , as right now it doesn't have much content. Never played City of heroes , so can't really compare it to anything else... But personally I'm having fun so far. | |
You've actually driven me to creating an account just so I can call you a twat. I don't mean to be rude or anything but this game has so many actual problems you could have made a point about instead of just picking random points to talk crap. 1. Yes, world of warcraft DID invent the concept of good vs evil. 2. The difference between CoH/CO and DCUO is that DCUO is actually a game whereas the other two are fanfiction simulators with sort of a bit of a game duct taped onto them. This is probably why the character creator isn't quite as extensive as theirs. 3. You are the first and only person I have ever heard to say the combat mechanics are anything less then revolutionary to the genre. Here is an MMO that actually plays like a beat em up game, perhaps a very simplified version of god hand or devil may cry, and you spend your entire time just tapping left click over and over again and then say it's rubbish and uninteresting? 4. Using the camera to target things is actually a rather convenient method for anything who has ever played, oh I don't know, a first/third person shooter. If that's not your cup of tea however you can go into the options menu and turn "WASD" on and then target things with the movement keys and be free to do whatever you want with the camera. 5. The iconic powers are there to shut up people who would obviously complain "Scarecrow can use fear gas, why can't I use fear gas?" And once again I have to bring up the point that this is designed to be a fun game about superheros, not a fanfic-fulfilment device in which after you discover that the character creator is godlike you find that all the actual gameplay is shit. I'm not a fanboy and I do agree that missions can be repetitive but that's basically the only valid complaint you had, you also forgot to mention the fact that PvP in the game is being destroyed by rampant exploits in the combat system that have failed to be fixed after more then a month thanks to SoE's lazy programmers or the terribly designed user interface / chat system. | |
It's still pretty extensive and takes most of its queues from CoH. It's not as rich, but at least it's less exhausting than the one in Champions Online. The important thing is to make sure you don't have a few dozen super-heroes who look alike (because of lack of options and not player lack of imagination, the latter of which runs rampant) and at least so far, that bullet's been dodged.
Wait, what? No. I love the game, but the targeting is crap. The game's set to lock on to targets directly opposite to the character, which means the camera has to ALWAYS follow the character's back and sure enough, it usually doesn't, either because you just want to look at another angle of your character fighting, or because you're scanning the immediate surrounding area to plot a strategy. He's absolutely correct about the camera being awful. | |
There follows the point about using WASD mode. Or alternatively you can hit TAB to lock on to a target and do whatever you want with the camera while still attack the same target, and if you need to switch targets you can hit tab again or C to clear target. I have never, repeat NEVER, suffered any minor inconvenience from the targeting system in this game. It works flawlessly and perfectly for me. | |
I'm playing with a gamepad. The game was designed to be played with the gamepad, since the mechanics were designed based on the PS3 version. That *is* a flaw and having to cut corners to make it work satisfactorily does not save it. | |
In one of the final missions of the game ('lease when i played it) you do start defending some NPC's who look up to your character with the same reverance that you (supposedly) have for the iconics...'course shortly after you've reached the lvl cap, so there y'go... | |
I'm Jack Ryder and you are wrong. Why? Because the gamepad controls for this game do suck, but the keyboard and mouse work perfectly. I even went so far as to make a short video demonstrating that the targeting is efficient and fluid, accurate and flawless. This is all done with targeting/control settings at default. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r25OY0PbNSE Another point I forgot to make in my original post is that yahtzee clearly mistook the purpose of the mentor selection. By "gagety-gadget hero" he clearly meant Batman mentor, gadget power source. What he seems to have totally failed to grasp is that mentor choice is purely there for story and aesthetics and has no bearing whatsoever on your actual character except for what end game armor you can wear. | |
From Europe, superheroes smell of jingoism: super cops who punch bad guys, as if crime was based in bad attitude or the police was actually the forces of Good embodied. In short, childish jingoism\fascism (jesus christ, there's some actually dressed in the US flag). Really, I'm not joking when I say that if you read comics over here you'll be regarded A) a borderline retard and B) far right in politics. Thankfully we always had a much more varied selection of comics to read, with every european country's and south america production. And now mangas, which thankfully will be killing off DC and Marvel sooner or later. | |
BS. The gamepad commands flow better. I've tried playing it with both and while the keyboard/mouse are well assigned enough, the game becomes a hell of a lot more immersive, because of its beat 'em up design. I'm not willing to let that go, because the devs screwed up the targeting. I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Even if the targeting works perfectly for the keyboard/mouse combo, the fact that it falls short of expectations (to put it mildly) with a gamepad, especially when the game has been made with those in mind, means it is indeed a technical problem on the game's part and critisizing it is fair game. | |
Let's hope not! | |
jeez all you need is to read a wikipedia page nowadays. But even before that I remember being bale to jump into a one of the old running comics easily. it's not that hard to figure shit out. I randomly started watching pysch, or any t.v show really and I usually catch up pretty fast. The premise of anything is usually simple to grasp and that's all you really need. | |
can you please avoid those bowel analogies like the one from 00:45 to about 01:05? I barely made it past that one. | |
Even City of Heroes was a weak fart in the wind, I don't know why the gaming industry believed that DCU would really shake things up. | |
I bought this game... I will now smash my face into concrete it will be less boring and less painful than playing DCUO. | |
Yeah, I'll agree that the analogy at the beginning was rather tortured. Not that I'd get this game anyway, but I know now definitely not to bother. | |
I love it when he says motherfuckers. | |
I'm still going to try it one day, superheroes are cool and I'm sticking with that story :P | |
I really can't claim to be an expert on Superman, but based on the first two movies and a few cartoons I've seen back when I was a kid, I'm under impression that Superman only flies in Visual Flight Rules meteorological conditions, and so isn't required to file a flight plan. If the weather turns foggy, I can only assume that he either takes a break from crime-fighting or catches a cab. | |
This made me laugh, the philosophy line was pretty good and the Da Vinci one. | |
If your gonna wish for something make it big...like the adventures of superman, and the adventures of batman, then the justive league since they are all tied into together and things just aren't complete unless you have them all... | |
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/23/dc-universe-online-interview-part-3-characters-and-heroes/
This is why DCUO is the only MMO worth playing. | |
I found that this game had a lot of flaws (mainly loading times, voice chat [on the ps3] and not much detail in the creation aspect) but overall, I'm enjoying it thoroughly. Can't put my finger on why exactly... | |
I know why i stopped playing mmorpgs (grindgrindgrind)... also my threesome would be with Catwoman and Poison Ivy, i like "bad girls" *rawr* | |
Yep, this looks like pure crap. Glad I'm not some pathetic comic book reader who might actually be disappointed by this game. Now Portal 2, there's something I'm anxiously awaiting. | |
Wow, the sheer number of people who blindly (yet so happily) drink from the teat of Yahtzee's opinions is kind of amazing. Guys, these reviews are meant to be entertaining--informative is second on the list, if even that. Draw your own opinions instead of dumbly nodding along to whatever you're told, even if it by a hilarious though irreversibly jaded and cynical Aussie. Many times Yahtzee reviews games so quickly that his conclusions are drawn from very partial information; a lot of the complaints here are just plain wrong. The people complaining about its costume creation: The game intentionally starts you with fewer costume parts than CoH. Why? Because you actually COLLECT costume parts from the armor you find (yes, actual armor, not like CoH where all you get are incredibly dull specific-power enhancements), so your appearance is actually a badge of what you've found or earned. And, unlike WoW or 99% of MMOs where you are forced to continue wearing the item to keep its look, you set the appearance of your armor parts separately from what's actually equipped--so if you think some level 1 armor looks badass, you can keep its look while keeping your actual armor top notch. As far as I know, no other game besides EQ2 and DCUO does this, and it's fantastic for character customization--your appearance evolves but only as you earn AND want it to. People complaining about combat: The combat in DCUO is far more fluid and timing-based than almost any MMO out there. Yeah, in early levels you can get away with spamming the same combo over and over. Fight something harder (Alert bosses, Wanted poster baddies, endgame mobs, PVP) and you'll realize you need to time your defensive powers or blocking (<--massively underused) expertly to avoid getting utterly destroyed. Plus your energy regeneration scales up as your hit combo goes up, so you HAVE to alternate between weapon attacks and powers--stick to just one and you're either drained or putting out really poor dps. The PVP especially is amazing, because blocking and timing are CRUCIAL. Spam your attack combos against someone blocking and YOU take a bunch of damage and get knocked down, and the blocking guy destroys you while you get up. Spam powers thinking you'll get an easy kill and you're immediately drained of energy and totally useless. The game's definitely not fully balanced yet--but then again, WoW's how many years old, and still not balanced? While DCUO is <2 months old. People complaining about lack of environment: Agreed, CoH had (and has) this same problem. Cities are pretty boring. But the inclusion of superbly crafted Races for each super movement type makes them wonderfully interactive (again, unlike 99% of MMOs out there), Alerts that take you to the moon, to Area 51, inside Arkham Asylum, etc, add a good chunk of variety. And why complain about flying over areas? If Yahtzee feels like flying takes away from the environment... don't choose flight. Stick to the ground and check it out while moving just as fast. Some of his complaints make no sense. TL;DNR: DCUO is by no means perfect. But is a wonderfully unique and honestly fun game, especially this briefly after launch (and I don't know diddly about DC comics). What, you never played it and just ruled by Yahtzee's critique? Or stopped 15 minutes in, judging the entire game by your woefully insufficient and biased experience? Think I found your problem. PS: That story==shitting analogy was indeed the shit. One of the best. | |
I really don't get the appeal of superhero based MMO's. I can't imagine what would be so exciting to play them for. Hmm... | |
I'm still enjoying this game, new quest have dried up of late...is there a site where i can find out how to get more? | |
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No, actually. Does it matter? I'm just expressing my opinion. These types of games just aren't my thing. And I don't have the sheer amount of time to invest into full time gaming anymore anyway. I'll only buy something if I really think it's going to be a truly amazing game. As such, the new games I've bought in the last few years have been few and far between.