Extra Punctuation: Let's Talk About Let's Play

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Hellfirecomms is also a nice outlet for LPs (Though they prefer to call them Playthroughs). Their earlier stuff is kind of "Meh", like their Kingdom Hearts 1 playthrough, but they've improved alot. Special mention goes to their Kingdom Hearts 2, Brutal Legend, Sonic Unleashed, and (Still in progress) Half-Life 2 playthroughs. They also do commentary on a variety of t.v. episodes, have an annual "Chirstmas Special" spot, and used to do movie commentaries. They stopped with them due to not wanting the flaunt "Fair Use" like a couple of Youtube tards.

They ARE a bit fanboyish at times, but never to the point of being obnoxious. TheHellDragon's Transformer fetish is actually quite cute to listen to, really.

http://hellfirecomms.com/

They're currently in the middle of a Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep playthrough.

Atmos Duality:

If you want to laugh your ass off at a truly terrible game, and see what a Lets Play can become, do check out the Dirge of Cerberus LP on the Something Awful LP Archive (Yahtzee already pimped the link to the archive; it's just a simple Ctrl+F search away after that).

I went to the site and did an Ctrl+F and didn't find it. We are talking about the same link he "pimped"

http://lparchive.org/

I searched it there and didn't find it. Could you be more helpful?

Edit: lol never mind found it. It's from "The Dark ID" right? watching it now.

Roadface:
I went to the site and did an Ctrl+F and didn't find it. We are talking about the same link he "pimped"

http://lparchive.org/

I searched it there and didn't find it. Could you be more helpful?

Edit: lol never mind found it. It's from "The Dark ID" right? watching it now.

Odd. It came right up for me.

http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-VII-Dirge-of-Cerberus/

Let's Plays can be both educational (especially when you're stuck in a game) and absolutely hilarious. It REALLY depends on who's doing it and how they react to the game. One of the worst LPs I've seen was a runthrough of Dead Space 1, by a guy who- you could tell by his voice- was not at all interested in the game. One of the best ones I've seen was by a Brit who was playing Nightmare House 2 (a Mod for Half-Life 2) blind, and who got so scared at one point that he had to have a friend on Ventrilo talk him through it- and still, he spent an entire video huddling in a corner, talking to his friend and holding a discarded computer monitor for comfort... until he started getting creeped out by the monitor.

I actually started an LP of FEAR 2 as a technical test. The primary reason I never put it up was because I absolutely loathe the sound of my own voice. Some of the LPs I've seen make me wish the authors had had the same consideration.

Someone else mentioned it in passing, but linkage must be provided: you can hardly even discuss Something Awful and Let's Play without bringing up Boatmurdered, a "succession game" LP of Dwarf Fortress.

Also, Psychedelic Eyeball's Prince of Persia -- not just a quality LP, but made even more entertaining by his wonderful Quebecois accent.

In general, though...I'm not big on LPs. If I'm really interested in a game, I want it to be a fresh experience when I play it. If I'm not interested in a game, I'm probably not going to enjoy watching it being played. It has to fall in that narrow space of "kind of interesting, but not enough to actually want to play it."

Wow, a rare nuts-and-bolts article from Yahtzee. I always like getting this kind of insight into the creative process, whatever the end result is.

I've only recently come across Let's Play, and I've mostly watched Shamus Young's Spoiler Warning Show, which is more of an MST3K take on the game and wild digressions. Fun to listen to, but not as illuminating about the actual game as other LPs.

I only watch Retsupurae nowadays, but I think that doesn't really count as LP...

My first exposure to Let's Play was the Legends of Legaia run-through by Paul and Graham. Google was unclear on what "Let's Play" actually meant, however, so I'd like to thank Yahtzee for clarifying that for me. I'll probably be wasting a lot of time watching LP videos over the next few days.

Been hooked on Spoiler Warning from Shamus Young, you know the guy behind Experience Points and Stolen Pixel. Currently running an LP on ME2 and frankly it has opened my eyes to one of my favorite RPGs ever. I never even considered how ludicrous the story turned out to be until after i've watched that LP.

Also the Bioshock one was awesome too :D

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpoilerWarningShow

But man now i have another source of LPs Thanks much Yahtzee ^-^

You know, I may have to go look at some of these so-called "quality" Let's Plays, because I have been pointed in the direction of the LPs on Youtube by friends/random people who must hate me, and found them to be torterous to sit through. So I was very surprised when Yahtzee admitted to being addicted to the concept. Personally, I hate watching other people play games unless I've already beaten them and/or am there to coach them through certain parts. I hate it even more if they're chatting over the going's on in the game, because most of the time it takes me out of the gameplay moment that I'm trying to get lost in.

I remember G4Tech TV used to have this half-hour show that would cycle through gameplay footage. I really enjoyed it for two major reasons: 1) It let me stare at gameplay in certain games I was curious about or missed altogether, and 2) There wasn't a game reviewer giving me their opinion of the game, I was just watching it and digesting it for myself. The LPs I have watched have done very little to make me interested in whatever they're playing, and somewhat hateful of the voiceover accompanying the gameplay because of the disturbance to my viewing experience.

That is an interesting idea, though, to use an LP for some after-the-fact commentary on a game you've already played. I wonder if there are any good ones for Twilight Princess, which I just finished last month.

I usually only watch Tobuscus and iJustine, which is actually quite educational.
They give me a chance to see through the eyes of a more casual gamer...and they're fucking funny.

I was considering writing a Let's Play article.

Let's Play is a really good concept. Probably if it's done well. Not much people outside the SA forums or Archives are not good with Let's Plays at all.

It's a good way to watch if the game is worth buying or an alternative to a text walkthrough.

Unless you prefer bad let's plays, you can always watch Retsuprae in which Mr. Crowshaw follows on his twitter account.

Pokemon Quartz people, Pokemon Quartz! The single best screenshot Let's Play in the LPArchive.

Bobic:
Yahtzee was right to recommend the daikatana let's play, it's awesome, I've watched it before.

I'm also surprised he didn't mention his own let's play, perhaps he is embarrassed.

Watching it now. It's like watching an atrocious movie and you just have to step back for a second and ask yourself how the writer looked at their product and decided to keep going each day...

I don't like watching let's-plays because, like everything else on the internet, I absolutely hate the people recording them. They're usually made by horribly irritating japanophile nerds with high pitched, shrill voices who scream and screech into abysmally low quality desktop microphones.

They talk like idiots, spewing out "DUUUURRRR LOL TEH RANDOMNESS HERE'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE SAID ON 4CHAN AND I AM NOW REPEATING IT DUUUUUHHHHH" comments, they emit horrible shrieking noises when the game isn't going their way, and they spend about a 3rd of their time trying to recall information about unrelated media that I don't even remotely give a shit about. That same "let's spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember the origins of some pop culture artefact because we're alcoholics with memory loss" makes a lot of gaming podcasts difficult for me to listen to.

Most of the time when I try to watch an LP I want to murder the person recording it within seconds. Maybe that's just what they're like on youtube, but I'm not going to actively seek out some secret "less retarded" archive of people playing through video games. We waste enough time on the Internet as it is. Watching a first person video of someone playing through a video game while they shout snivelling remarks into a low quality microphone honestly seems like a psychotic activity to me. Its like something out of a William S. Burroughs novel.

One of the first LP's I watched was the infamous LP of sonic the hedgehog 2006.

ShenCS:
Pokemon Quartz people, Pokemon Quartz! The single best screenshot Let's Play in the LPArchive.

Scorchy's KOTOR II and Blade Runner would like a word with you.

The Animal Crossing one was pretty hilarious too.

www.tippingforties.com

They get drunk and play games. What could be better? They have been updating like crazy lately. They've done probably four games since the beginning of the year. Check them out.

Togs:
I love LP's- just as Yahtzee says there a perfect tool for getting to experience a game that you either cant afford, dont have access to or just dont want to play.
But Ive never heard about the SA part of the equation, having to content myself with the highly variable quality of the youtube forms- but Im definately gonna check them out now cheers.

And I agree, it would be nice to see yahtzee's take on LP's.

Indeed. Considering I do "Let's Plays" myself I admit that Yahtzee is right on one thing.

QUALITY CONTROL!

I had to invest up to $300 worth of PROPER recording equipment for my Playstation?

Why? BECAUSE YOU DO IT RIGHT!!!!
Secondly I can understand his frustration about how the LPs should be about the game and not the person.

Oh what the Hell I admit I'm a whore so I'm just going to promote one of my videos because I know I can never get a deal with The Escapist

FORGIVE MY WHORENESS

SA are a bunch of assholes. I registered once, not too long ago, made on thread, and was banned the next day. No warning, nothing. Easy money eh? You can unban yourself of course, by PAYING MORE MONEY. Oh well, SA hasn't been fun since JeffK stopped publishing, anyway.

So hard to find good Let's Plays. I know it's pretty subjective, but I find it hard to believe anyone enjoys reading the ones written in first person from the point of view of the game character. They always come across as some junior highschool English level piece of crap, with an emphasis either on failing at humour or trying to sound badass.
This problem only plagues the written/screenshot ones, but the videos have their own drawbacks such as increbidly fucking annoying voices.

Still, there are some great one's out there. Such as: Icewind Dale 2, Neverwinter Nights 2 + Mask of the Betrayer, KOTOR 2, Sacrifice, and some of the Resident Evil ones [all on Something Awful Let's Play archive]

Noah Antwilers Let's Play of Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of Flesh is absolutely my favorite.

Linkey :http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/lets-play/phantasmagoria/

Yahtzee i think has an Lp in the archives if memory servers, one of the old rotorscop games but i can search by author so i cant look it up.

Big lets play addict, too!

Its like watching a season of a tv show, pretty cool.

One good one im watching is by Helloween5454 or something. He plays horror games and its just great. I was gonna boot up silent hill 3 again, but hes playing that game now so im just gonna watch HIM play it.

But we need to go deeper.

I have been watching a channel....that does a Lets Play...OTHER LETS PLAYS!

Youve just been incepted.

LAN MAC:
I usually only watch Tobuscus and iJustine, which is actually quite educational.
They give me a chance to see through the eyes of a more casual gamer...and they're fucking funny.

Those sort of let's plays bug me because they have no idea what they're talking about it, so you end up screaming the answers to their idiotic questions...maybe that's just me, I have issues...

I find that far too often the LP of a game is more fun than actually playing it yourself.
But I think that has more to do with the poor quality of most titles rather than any sort of good quality out of LPs.

Did Yahtzee just link ChipCheezum? Have I just fallen into internet nerd nirvana?

I'd love to start a Let's Play series myself, but I need to find a unique angle instead of doing the same thing everybody else does. I find that it's a really good entertainment medium. I'd much rather watch a Chip & Ironicus Let's Play than anything on television. All the terrible Let's Players on youtube make me sad though. How could so many people miss the point so badly?

insanelich:
Ooo. Shame that one of the 50 Cent guys retired, so no more stuff from them.

General Ironicus is currently working with ChipCheezum on a MGS 4 Let's Play.

Casimir_Effect:
So hard to find good Let's Plays. I know it's pretty subjective, but I find it hard to believe anyone enjoys reading the ones written in first person from the point of view of the game character. They always come across as some junior highschool English level piece of crap, with an emphasis either on failing at humour or trying to sound badass.
This problem only plagues the written/screenshot ones, but the videos have their own drawbacks such as increbidly fucking annoying voices.

You should read the Let's Play of Arcanum. I found it to be a great read.

No love for Shamus' LP series, Yahtzee? He has one, it's called Spoiler Warning, and they're doing (almost done) with Mass Effect 2 at the moment. They've also done, with various members, the original Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Fallout 3. It's awesome, people should check it out.

Anyway, now that I'm done plugging that... I really like LPs. They give me a chance to see what a game is like if it's just not something I'd play, like Dead Space 2, or whatever. Sometimes they start their life as tutorials and just keep going, those are really nice. Minecraft does that a lot, I think.

Speaking of Minecraft, there's actually a really awesome Minecraft LP community on Youtube (the one I follow the most is Paulsoaresjr), and there's at least one other that does hilarious LPs for other things (TOBUSCUS! Oh, and he does awesome trailer voice-overs too. "Just kill him with your awesome...") That's not counting the CoD players doing MP, since I don't really count that as a Let's Play.

I've actually been thinking of doing a LP of ME1 and 2, finishing sometime around when ME3 comes out, and then doing that. I'm a big fan, but I've discussed its downsides a lot, so I figure it'd be a good one to do.

I've often seen LP's if i get stuck somewhere, sometimes just looking at things from different points makes me realize what i have to do before actually seeing it done.

If anybody is looking for good LP of old games I'd recommend this youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/cubex55#g/u

They do new games too but i think many would appreciate the old games because they are harder to find and play, having to mess around with emulators and shit like that.

I recently saw their longplay of "I have no mouth and i must scream" for the PC, Awesome game but they didn't commentate so it was like a long movie.

Redlin5:
I was attempting to do my own LP series when my computer decided to die and take all my work with it. I was more interested in the game than talking about myself anyway...

I really want to make a successful LP.

The only way to do it is try.

I'm going to continue mine today, trust me, having four or five dedicated fans is all you need to stay motivated.

Advancedcaveman:
I don't like watching let's-plays because, like everything else on the internet, I absolutely hate the people recording them. They're usually made by horribly irritating japanophile nerds with high pitched, shrill voices who scream and screech into abysmally low quality desktop microphones.

They talk like idiots, spewing out "DUUUURRRR LOL TEH RANDOMNESS HERE'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE SAID ON 4CHAN AND I AM NOW REPEATING IT DUUUUUHHHHH" comments, they emit horrible shrieking noises when the game isn't going their way, and they spend about a 3rd of their time trying to recall information about unrelated media that I don't even remotely give a shit about. That same "let's spend the next 30 minutes trying to remember the origins of some pop culture artefact because we're alcoholics with memory loss" makes a lot of gaming podcasts difficult for me to listen to.

Most of the time when I try to watch an LP I want to murder the person recording it within seconds. Maybe that's just what they're like on youtube, but I'm not going to actively seek out some secret "less retarded" archive of people playing through video games. We waste enough time on the Internet as it is. Watching a first person video of someone playing through a video game while they shout snivelling remarks into a low quality microphone honestly seems like a psychotic activity to me. Its like something out of a William S. Burroughs novel.

The high quality ones are awesome, though. If I hate the commenter within seconds, I stop watching.

I understand if they've been ruined for you by creepy shrieky Japanophiles, but they aren't ALL like that.

I don't really have a whole lot to contribute to the topic, but I figured I might as well make the obligatory reference to The Terrible Secret of Animal Crossing. That's all.

This sounds great. I will def check it out!

lacktheknack:

Redlin5:
I was attempting to do my own LP series when my computer decided to die and take all my work with it. I was more interested in the game than talking about myself anyway...

I really want to make a successful LP.

The only way to do it is try.

I'm going to continue mine today, trust me, having four or five dedicated fans is all you need to stay motivated.

I've got the motivation, I just lack the time now.

nm

Therumancer:
There are plenty of LPs on "Youtube" as well if anyone is interested.

That said, I have little sympathy for Yahtzee on the matter of not having enough time to play games. To be honest he's a professional, and apparently making enough money off of his internet fame to open a bar (since I seem to remember him mentioning his very humble beginnings). It comes down to the amount of time he chooses to spend on his profession... and simply put, anything becomes a boring chore when you do it professionally. Any hardcore gamer out there who suddenly had their gaming and commentary held to a professional level would rapidly feel the same way about it. Saying "well, I only play a few hours a day because I want to have a life" is kind of silly when you consider that most people have their lives seriously effected by having to work a job. Playing games 10-12 hours a day for a week straight is pretty much the equivilent of what most people would do at their job considering travel time, and be left with very little to do otherwise.

The point here being that while his comments about LP videos are interesting, to be honest I also find his reasons for endorsement kind of disturbing, my basic attitude is that he needs to get back to work, even if that work is playing games so he can entertain us. If it's a chore for him to do... well, welcome to employment.

Trust me, before I became a total wreck (disabled) I worked as casino security, which was a giant dog and pony show where I got to hold up a uniform and get blamed for things that went wrong that I couldn't do anything about (professional scapegoat... and understanding that is part of the job). I dealt with drunks, thefts, reports, and tons of things, not to mention gazing at monitors watching nothing happen for many, many hours on end, or worse yet walking around rows of slot machines being a deterrant... or even more fun, spending hours in doorways to the gaming floor checking IDs to prevent minors from getting on the floor. Not to mention the stress my problems that eventually rendered me disabled caused, being the guy who gets griped at for pacing and talking to themself (without realizing it) isn't the most fun thing in the world. The point is that while there were worse jobs, I have little respect for people who complain about how they job is boring, or just a general chore. If your the guy who sponges down the peep booths at an X-rated shop or something... okay then you have a right to complain. If you play video games for a living, own (or partially own) your own business, then you really don't have much room to complain and talk about your need to cut corners (so to speak).

God, as I was reading the article I was wondering to myself how many comments I would read before coming across someone who would take the whole damn thing as a horrifying slight rather than a simple and informative essay about a topic Yahtzee apparently finds enjoyment in. Let's set the fucking record straight: He wasn't whining (shock!) he wasn't bitching (gasp!) and he certainly wasn't complaining about his awesome job that he loves or the life he lives (inconceivable!). Indeed, the only thing Yahtzee is guilty of in this article is providing a solid context in order to allow the reader to better understand his position on an interesting subject. You know, the way a good writer does.

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