The Big Picture: PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

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PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

Hold off on the rage for a second and just listen.

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For the next generation PC might as well be BC.
I'd only give-up my PC for Cybernetic eye-ball implant gaming (that is, if ANY console did RTS half as well as my PC)

interesting, wonder if it will pan out like that. If it does, that will be interesting.

Here come the fireballs.

Can't say I really agree with a lot of that Bobby.
I've been a console gamer for about 18-20 years now, and I got a gaming PC only last month. It's miles better by far :)

So yeah, the whole 'grown into denial' thing really doesn't hold any water...
I think the biggest delusion people have, is saying that the consoles advance towards PCs have always boasted as 'benefits' means that PC gaming is now dying. The reality is pretty much that consoles are now just up to scratch (well nearly, we haven't seen if mouse/motion controls will even stuck in the long run)

Essentially, somehow I doubt that iPads or iPhones will ever replace the functionality of a whole home computer. You'll never see people at my Uni doing their assignments on their phone. Just isn't practical.

Some things are just necessary~

EDIT: Actually, notice how laptops were not mentioned.
Laptops ARE computers, and I agree laptops will probably replace the box PC. But ...it's still a PC.

Did anyone else think the title was a Videodrome reference?

Anyways, interesting episode, although I almost expected this to be a Game Overthinker episode as oppossed to a Big Picture episode.

Who uses a tablet? "Tablets" are just iPads and iPads are just laptops without a keyboard except less powerfull.

Oh dear.

This is going to get ugly.

All I'm going to say here is that it seems kind of... odd that he's putting this video on the Escapist, a site with an unusually high proportion of PC folks.

Also, he's probably right.

Now I'm gonna run before the knives come out.

Kevlar Eater:

Here come the fireballs.

haha was about to do this exact thing, massive zerg rushing among bob will commence high and mightily.

OT: Bob i actually do agree quite alot with this, and it did bring together alot of random off topic thoughts i've had for a long time now, and i completely agree on alot of it.

*sigh*

Redefine words to mean what you think.

Lovely.

I'd love to think that you just created this for page views, out of spite, because most of the reviewers have their own little hate pad against computers.

I know this isn't true though. You've just redefined all the words. Whee. That's nice. And added a disclaimer that if anyone flames, you're right as well.

I'm not going to get angry, because the writing on the wall's been there for some time. You work on PCs, you play on consoles, so because you hate work, you have to differentiate them.

Comfort over Versatility. Sad. Maybe it's all just for page views though? Part of me wishes it was just a troll attempt.

Here's the Little Picture:

Consoles are becoming PCs.

At first I srs'd.

And then, I lol'd. Summer Glau makes everything appealing.

I agree and disagree good sir. Should've just condensed that and said, "PC Gaming got borgified with consoles, get over it" and saved us six minutes. Ironically with steam I feel it's happening the other way around. At least until Steam goes console.

A day I can't wait for. Buy it on Steam and play it on your wii/360/ps3/pc/etc of your choice.

Edit: Oh, also I grew up with consoles. I own a 360/wii/ds/gaming pc. For the past six months I've played my wii/360 0%, my ds 15%, and my pc 85%. I use my 360 to watch netflix instant play. I haven't turned on my Wii since last June for Super Mario Galaxy 2.

I'm not usig any irony when I'm saying that I never really understood why people claimed that PC gaming is dying. I thought the reason was that piracy is much much easier on the PC platform than on consoles. But ok, the reasons stated in this video made sense and shed some light on it.

Nice one Bob! For the foreseeable future PCs, or notebook computers, but they will occupy a smaller and smaller part of the landscape. Media creators will need them.

No need to wait so much for the flamewars, they're a-coming right now.

At first, I thought he was just rehashing an older GameOverthinker movie, but then he took that twist into "PCs are dying" bit. I was entertained, and I can't say I would mind more GameOverthinker-esque stuff over at the Escapist.

I think Bob's looking into the future. I don't think we're talking the death of the PC in 5 years here. This is more like 15 to 30 when tablets are more than just expensive Apple toys. He's talking a generation's time, not a "blink and you'll miss it" kind of moment. So maybe "death" is too harsh of a word. Maybe "decline" is more of the issue.

So yeah, this isn't anything to get upset over. Bob pulled out the crystal ball, so shake your cane at him when we're 60 and can definitely prove or disprove his ideas.

I haven't owned a PC in years, I get by perfectly fine on a laptop, an xbox and a good phone. Pc gamine these days drives me crazy with all the antipiracy stuff they've introduced, i bought hard copys of 2 games and couldn't play either because the giant fail that is Steam wanted me to download both games, which i can't do because I'm on a limited data usage plan.

Eh, miniaturization hasn't come so far as all that. Perhaps soon the PC will simply be a box in your closet that stores your files and processes your games, and you'll access it from any of a dozen devices... but that box will still be necessary. Processors in mobile devices are still a joke, and compared to those we can make that put out the kind of heat modern PC processors do, they always will be. Until we find a truly viable replacement for silicon, there will always be the physical limitations of heat dissipation.
Honestly, I think the next wave (if corporate greed will allow it or hackers will make it despite corporate greed) is really the integration of what we think of as "consoles" into PC hardware. PCs are modular technology, they can process any code you want 'em to. Consoles are too limited to survive in the face of that.

...

That's why PC sales are up then. Why Steam continues to gain more users and money. Why motion controls are being put on the PC anyway (of course, plenty of the "hardcore" console gamers also moan to death about motion controls - and whilst Kinect has sold massively well, I'm pretty sure actual game sales for it are fairly pitiful). Not that motion controls are as accurate as a mouse and keyboard anyway.

As for the whole Facebook thing, its a DIFFERENT MARKET. If sales on "hardcore" PC games are also rising, then how are they dying? They're just more expensive, so the increase in sales doesn't come that fast from THAT market. Since FB and its ilk are a different, cheaper market (and a new one), they raise faster.

This video is a little bizarre. You're right, why would you keep all those things at a hub in your house, when you could buy 300 different appliances that all only do a few functions of it? Oh, wait...

And last time I checked, I'm pretty sure laptops were counted as PCs.

Oh, and if you installed IE and Office on a 360, you would have a basic PC. You're not rendering your old one useless, you're just building a slightly more limited one.

Oisin O'Driscoll:
I haven't owned a PC in years, I get by perfectly fine on a laptop, an xbox and a good phone. Pc gamine these days drives me crazy with all the antipiracy stuff they've introduced, i bought hard copys of 2 games and couldn't play either because the giant fail that is Steam wanted me to download both games, which i can't do because I'm on a limited data usage plan.

If you have the discs, you don't need to download the games through Steam. Just register them.

As a PC gamer, I can say that Bob makes a lot of really good points. I wish he was wrong, however the writing is on the wall. I don't see myself giving up the PC anytime soon, however I can say that it's a good thing I got a 360 a few months back, it's a back-up plan for games that I love that don't come out on the keyboard and mouse.

PC gaming is never going to die as long as the dudes that make the games make them USING A PC.

I don't agree. When the consoles get the functionality of a PC, what is then the difference between the console and the PC? Both is just beige (or black/whatever) boxes anyway.

Besides, the thing i like most about the PC, is the P part of it. In most cases today, the console is linked up to a TV in the living-room or something, accessible for all the inhabitants of the house (i know, not in all cases), while at least where i am, a PC is a personalized computer, only owned and used by a single person. Mine is in my bedroom, far away from all the other people around me. I know laptops are taking over much of that part, but i consider them PC's as well. Heck, here in Norway, we call them portable PC's anyway.

/rambling about how PC is superior to the console...

Jikuu:
At first, I thought he was just rehashing an older GameOverthinker movie, but then he took that twist into "PCs are dying" bit. I was entertained, and I can't say I would mind more GameOverthinker-esque stuff over at the Escapist.

I think Bob's looking into the future. I don't think we're talking the death of the PC in 5 years here. This is more like 15 to 30 when tablets are more than just expensive Apple toys. He's talking a generation's time, not a "blink and you'll miss it" kind of moment. So maybe "death" is too harsh of a word. Maybe "decline" is more of the issue.

So yeah, this isn't anything to get upset over. Bob pulled out the crystal ball, so shake your cane at him when we're 60 and can definitely prove or disprove his ideas.

15-30 years into the future?

Heck, by then we might even have moved on into star trecky holochambers.

So long as it also lets me zoom in on my Warhammer minis while I'm painting, I'm on the android eyeball implant side.

Actually, screw that, my hands can be faster than my brain. Case in point; I was faster than any chicken mod/hack in Diablo II Hardcore back in the day, so fast that would-be PK hackers trying to kill my character through the abuse of waypoint and/or town portal hacking/macros wanted to know where I got my stuff.

Cyber gaming would require more use of the brain and would interface poorly with such reflexes... But doing away with that damned magnifying visor and just getting a permanent face-mounted zoom lens would still be convenient.

Two words:
Paradox Interactive.

Consoles have no historical grand strategy games.
I rather believe that Consoles and PCs will undergo a weird fusion in the end.

But why would I want to use four different devices to do all this stuff when I could just sit down on my comfy chair at my computer and do them all on one device?

PCs will either become obsolete or get so compact that they colapse into their own gravity well, forming a miniature black hole that grows by consuming the materials around it, getting bigger until IT HAS CONSUMED THE EARTH! Don't let this happen! Use the time machine! Add more exclamation points!!!! Save the future!

The_root_of_all_evil:

I'm not going to get angry, because the writing on the wall's been there for some time. You work on PCs, you play on consoles, so because you hate work, you have to differentiate them.

It's unfortunate that a video that clearly had some work put into it got conscended into a two-sentence piece that undermines everything it's going by accusing the author of being a biased person who doesn't even realize he's biased.

Yes, you're right, the title is clear and noticeable flamebait. The video, on the other hand, is not.

This is why I watch this show Bob. I never even thought about it heading in this direction, when it clearly is. Amazing.

I've got to admit, Bob: While this episode was very insightful and informative, it unfortunately was as depressing as Part 1 of your Sonic video over at the Game Overthinker (yes, some of us do watch that still).

That final joke put a smile on my face, nice touch Bob

I think pc gaming is actually becoming better, due to the recent plateau in processing power and graphics technology, and the fact that games are at a point where they can't get a whole lot more realistic without a treadmill, virtual boy gettup, and smellivision makes cost of entry alot smaller. Even if a new console generation appears pretty soon, there's a pretty high chance that the bluray problem might happen. (blu rays don't get rented/purchased, because they cost more, but don't look much better than an upscaled standard dvd) The xbox 720 isn't going to sell many units if the only upgrade to master chief is simulated rust on his armor when you get up to go to the bathroom.

Heh, even reviewers can be trolls, who knew.

LOL.

I am trying really hard to think of a good response which isn't based of A) Fanboism and B) Ego.

I think the problem is that you need to define not just where the tech is going but where the people are going. I am a niche consumer. I demand the technology that "I want" in my day to day tasks/chores/activities. But there are more people out there that will take, using Apple as an example, whatever they are given.

Do I think I will notice any tailoffs of PC tech in the next 20 years? No. We spend enough as a niche market to keep PC Hardware companies innovating. Because of this hardware innovation all of the other markets benefit. That's right, we are actually providing the other markets the technology THEY need to innovate.

PCs then are not dieing they are mearly at the plateau that is the product life cycle. Sure it is nearing the end, but it has YEARS to go yet (I seriously think about 20). I also know for a fact that techies like myself will always refuse to just choose tech generic tablet one as our machine of choice. If I cant choose the parts, build it myself and then modify it at will; I will not buy it.

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