The Big Picture: Off the Charts

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Off the Charts

It's movie fans versus gaming fans in the battle over the Uncharted movie.

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I like the "just my opinion" hat, good choice Bob. I can see the general argument but haven't really played the Uncharted games either I'll just wait and see how the movie turns out. I mean, changes don't necessarily mean bad things, changes for the better can happen. Right?

Doubtful but with a hint of intrigue. There is always hope for the first great game movie, however I still would like to see the first Zelda game made hopefully within my lifetime.

Mweh Uncharted never seemed interesting to me, doesn't deserve a movie though tbh. It would be making a movie based on a game based on Indiana Jones.

I liked The Fighter though so who knows?

thelastgentleman:
Doubtful but with a hint of intrigue. There is always hope for the first great game movie, however I still would like to see the first Zelda game made hopefully within my lifetime.

Err, Zelda movie, right?

And that would be awesome. There are a few other franchises that could stand to have their universe expanded via books or movies, I think. A Metroid movie might be kinda fun, so long as Samus is actually Samus, and not, yano, 'daddy-issues' samus from Other M.

But on to the topic at hand: They can do away with the Uncharted storyline, so long as the character and setting/'feel' is kept. Like a good book-to-movie adaptation it cannot possibly hope to be 100% 'true' to the games. But it can be true to the spirit of them.

Also This felt slightly less "big-picture" and more "inb4 minor rant." You can do better, Bob.

not related but what games do you like movie bob, you seem to bash them a bit (not angry) just wondering what story based games your a fan of (if any)

Don't really care about Uncharted, not owning a PS3, but if the movie is trying to be like National Treasure I might be interested. National Treasure wasn't a great movie but the way it was so earnest in portraying it's conspiracy-laden construction of American history as exciting and interesting made me enjoy it quite a bit.

More concerned about the Green Lantern movie honestly. So Bob has tipped over into outright pessimism about the chances of it being good? That's bad, because I've honestly been having a hard time trying to convince myself that it still looks like it's going to be good.

Whoo boy.

You just had to throw in that "for a western developed video game" line didn't you?

I'm not even gonna touch that. Because if I did it would just consist of me yelling, "Bioshock!" over and over.

And now I've started touching that.

...

I'm outa here.

Shouldn't a game's narrative stand on its own in the game? Do games really need films in order for them to make sense?

I never saw Uncharted as a movie to get terribly defensive about regarding the plot. It has some other neat elements, but the story isn't as important as how it addressed the kind of game that it was. The thing is, the kind of game that it was has already been done as a movie. Several times.

Any changes they make, if the movie is any good, will probably extend the life of the Uncharted franchise instead of somehow corrupting it.

I haven't played the Uncharted games either, but I know enough about the series (thanks to Wikipedia) to know that there IS an actual narrative in the games and that the director's changes don't exactly fit in with it. Still I suppose you're right about the fact that movie won't be bad just because the characters are changed, but what they're changed into. Which brings me to the REAL reason I have doubts about this film: Nathan Fillion isn't playing Nathan Drake.

So according to Movie Bob: Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect, Bioshock and Dragon Age don't exist. I'd hate to live in his world

So Baz Luhrmann is making a movie based on The Great Gatsby

thats bad how?

More than likely it'll be along the lines of National Treasure hopefully without Nicolas Cage's horrible acting.
If you own a PS3 and haven't at least played Uncharted 2, I'd recommend it. It earned its title of game of the year in 09.

Srdjan Tanaskovic:
So Baz Luhrmann is making a movie based on The Great Gatsby

thats bad how?

It's in 3D
That's never a good sign

You couldn't go without saying "from a western developer" could you? So, what, are eastern developers better at telling a story?

Seriously, not going to even go further into it.

Huh. I believe the reason that games don't make good movies and vice versa is more to do with the fact that the canons and notion of "good" for each medium entail entirely different things. Two different forms of judgment are applies to each one and its hard to translate between he two because either you have to change your standards for each, which many see as hypocritical or are unable to do, or you judge both by the same standards which causes it to inevitably fail because the two forms of judgment are too different. In other words, judging a movie like game makes it suck and judging each different is something people cannot or will not do since they can't separate the two in their mind. On top of that. Who cares if they make a good game movie? What exactly does that accomplish? I serious why do people care so much? That somehow makes games more legitimate because the the film canon of relatively "high art" acknowledges it? Do we just really love the ability to move franchises between medium? Is there some tremendous overlap of movie and game aficionados that want both to be together? What?

Bob, people weren't complaining about the story being ruined, but about changing the whole nature of what made the game appealing.

Casting Mark Wahlberg to play a smarmy, playfull jerk is the best example of this.

The "...from a western developrer" remark makes me know that the "games are art" brigade are going to come into this comment section foaming at the mouth...

OT: I do think that having a competent man working on it gives us a better chance of the movie not being good, but as mentioned, it's Uncharted, best described as it was in the video. Still, with this and the fact that Prince of Persia was just "ok, I guess" and not "terrible" means we might be able to see a genuinely good game movie soon.

I think for me the issue with the Uncharted movie isn't how much they adapt it in terms of specific character traits (such as the parted hair) so much as it is that the movie is being described as something wholely unrelateable to the series. Despite the issues with the Resident Evil films, at least the first film was something different from the games in terms of characters but is at least something that one can imagine happening in the Resident Evil universe, because the aspects of Resident Evil that make it Resident Evil are still there. Uncharted on contrast appears to have a story that one can't imagine ever happening in the Unchared universe, because the aspects of Uncharted that make it Uncharted are not present in the film. I've played the games myself, and I enjoy them, but I agree that while the story is certainly better than most games today, it's not the most terrific of stories, but at least there is something about the stries to identify it as an Uncharted story, mainly the idea of an outlaw treasure hunter who despite being a douche at least tries to have fun with the experience. The movie sounds like the opposite of that, especially when they hire Mark Wahlberg for the role. While no disrespect for the guy, in fact I think he is a pretty decent actor, he's not the type of actor someone usually hires to play a douche who has fun in what others would call a terrifying or stressful situation. I think what this comes down to is that this movie is going to have a hard time pleasing anyone, since even if the quality of the film ends up being good, the fans of Uncharted won't be getting a good Uncharted film, just a film with the title Uncharted, while regular film critics won't like it because it appears to be trying to hard to be like National Treasure meets Indianna Jones meets Dan Brown stories.

Casual Shinji:
Bob, people weren't complaining about the story being ruined, but about changing the whole nature of what made the game appealing.

Casting Mark Wahlberg to play a smarmy, playfull jerk is the best example of this.

That and people were mostly just incredibly shocked at how casually he said the story was going to be "about a family of theieves who protect artifacts" or something, which isn't anywhere near what "Uncharted" is about.

Actually, here's a quote from the man himself.

"This idea really turns me on that there's a family that's a force to be reckoned with in the world of international art and antiquities ... [a family] that deals with heads of state and heads of museums and metes out justice."

Seriously, does that even sound remotely like "Uncharted"?

Yeah, it's not so much that the story is being changed, but just the very nature of it being changed, I mean, seriously, a family of artifact theieves?

I don't understand the bad press Uncharted gets. I played through both of them and had a blast. Both Bob and Yahtzee both have spoken out about how bad the story and or character is. Whatever, I had fun. I wouldn't mind a movie. It can't be anyworse than the second National Tresure movie...

ARGH, FFS Bob stop making me hate you, uncharteds story was good i agree, but when you put in "for a western developer" seriously? WHAT PLAnET ARE YOU ON, Bioshock, Dragon age, mass effect, Red dead redemption

I don't really care about the Uncharted movie, having never played the games. Heh, I've already posted twice today that I don't like the Playstation consoles due to their uncomfortable controllers and game selection I'm not interested in. Go figure.

And thinking on it, Hollywood has yet to make a video game movie I'd actually be inclined to see. Those big name franchises they made movies of? I've never played those games (and I'm pretty sure Mario 64 came AFTER the Mario movie, so that doesn't count). Most of the games I love are RPGs with a malleable protagonist, so I doubt Hollywood would try to make a movie of one of those.

However, I do want to see a Legend of Zelda movie, but only as the CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT OF MOVIES BASED ON VIDEO GAMES OF ALL TIME. Say, at least a decade after Uwe Boll stops making movies.

I really respect your opinion Bob.

"For a western developer" Damnit Bob, Bioware lives there! (as well as other great story crafting developers)

To be fair, The Prince of Persia Movie wasn't that bad....but nothing extraordinary. So yeah, I guess this movie could be pretty cool, but I personally don't really care about game to movie adaptations. I get more excited about game to anime adaptions =P

But Metal Gear's basically a movie already.

When I go to watch the HQ version it just says stream not found.

Zhukov:
Whoo boy.

You just had to throw in that "for a western developed video game" line didn't you?

I'm not even gonna touch that. Because if I did it would just consist of me yelling, "Bioshock!" over and over.

And me screaming "Mass Effect! whenever you pause to take a breath. Also, is he implying the JRPGs actually have good storylines? Because... that is the most wrong thing I've heard him say since that time he classified all sport hunters as the scum of the Earth.

Well, aside from that, he does make a good point.

I've seen alot of people bashing Moviebob about his "For a western developer" line, and I think it's funny that they bring up the same five games. Probably because those few games are the exception. Most games that I play for a good story aren't western made games because western games put more emphasisi on making a profit rather than making a touching story and gameplay.

Goota say I'm loving the choice of hats.

But yes it is true, Western developed videogames OFTEN have terrible writing and story. That isn't to say they always do, there are some with amazing thematic elements and impressive scripts, but these are sadly in the minority...

Just like how most MOVIES have amazing thematic elements and impressive scripts in the minority. We should be seeing a pattern here.

Some points I completely disagree with as usual, but I have to say, that was a beautifully made point that "Aw c'mon, it's not that Hollywood doesn't respect games, it's that Hollywood doesn't respect anything" XD

uh.. High quality stream not found.

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