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Nintendo game...Plot??? Since when? :p | |
I've never liked Pokemon that much. I always just picked the cool looking ones, and all the cool looking moves, and I pretty much never lost. Got kind of boring. | |
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102963 That one's a great example. | |
Personally I think pokemon is one of the best video game series out there. It hasn't changed much from Red/Blue because it hasn't needed to. They've done some changes like the physical/special move split or adding abilities, but those have just added to the fun by throwing in more strategy elements and making some pokemon actually worth using again. Plus the competitive scene is awesome and challenging, since there's over 600 pokemon your opponent could potentially use, with so many possible moves for each of them. You can't even go by type really anymore, cause if you do your fighting type that you use to trump their dark type gets hit by a psychic attack and faints. Plus all the items you can give them to hold add even more strategy. On a side note though, people need to quit shutting the game off when they lose on wi-fi. Its very annoying and making a lot of people's records look like crap since none of their wins get recorded :( | |
Pokemon is for mad people? I like it, and I am a little mad (*shrug*). | |
to be honesty I just found excadrill(which for me owned at every gym) with rock-slide to be enough to deal with it and most flying pokemon as it has higher accuracy and may make them flinch. | |
I'm a bit surprised that Yahtzee didn't get the version with the big phallic dragon. But hey we now know his weakness which is electric flying squirrels. :P Now that squirrel should be a meme! | |
They bothered me in other games (haven't played Black or White). When encountering a random battle with say a goddamn Zubat I really wish I could skip the 'ready to battle' sequence where the zubat makes a noise and just immediately run away. | |
I love Pokemon, but I agree with most of the criticisms in this video. | |
Firstly, since I had to stop playing Pokemon games after Second gen, though I really wanted to keep it up, I had no idea people battled online....seems seriously interesting to me and addictive lol gonna give it a looksee. Damn the Escapist for introducing me to new things -shakes fist- | |
So Yahtzee likes the other kind of cock fight, like not the one that Pokemon is based upon? | |
I agree with all that you said. Some of the points he brought up were either really, really stupid or plain misinformed. >_< Still made for a fun episode though. | |
This guy pretty much summed up my opinion on this review. Another point is, if you don't like the random encounters in Pokemon, go to the store and pick up a couple dozen Repels. It's a great investment. The cycle of healing/losing health could be eliminated through exploiting resistances and copious amounts of Pokemon switching in battle to adapt to the situation. Teaching Pokemon odd moves using TMs and the Move Relearner is also quite helpful. The games have changed quite a bit from the first generation, as well, so that's not much of a point. | |
I do that all the time the only thing i regret is seeing their smile turn into a frown | |
Sorry man, but from what I know of memes. Saying something should be a meme generaly causes it to not become one (which is sad because I would totaly suport that meme). | |
Yes pokemon has some key issues that haven't been addressed throughout its existence (PC system, underwhelming story lines). And although the gameplay remains virtually the same, the meta-game evolves drastically with every new critter, move, ability, and item introduced. I thought he would have at least applauded the depth involved in this game. There are over 600 pokemon, with multiple abilities, multiple natures and many builds for each one with different roles to play on teams. Yahtzee only really harped at the obsessive compulsive side of the game, which is completely optional and unnecessary if you wish to either beat the game or compete later. The Pokemon series has shifted from being all about "Catching them All" to being a competitive community. Just look at some of the huge followings on YouTube. And I usually agree with most of Yahtzee's shtick. | |
Repels are your friends. Seriously, the game should just force you to buy repels, they're by far the most useful item in the game if you want to enjoy it. | |
My strategy when playing any Pokemon game: 1. Pick a Pokemon. It can be the starter or one you catch really early that you like the looks of, it's pretty irrelevant. 2. Grind the crap out of it for about 45 mins before going to the first town, until it's about level 15-20. 3. Only use this one Pokemon for every fight. You are now nigh invincible, can one shot even opposing types, and will gain enough exp to stay that way until you reach the Elite Four. Worked for every Pokemon game I've played, and for the most part it's working a treat with Black. I look forward to reaching the Elite Four and finding out this strategy is completely ineffective against them, as usual. | |
I would laugh if it got an Evolution in Gen 6 xD | |
The elite 4 are lvl 70 now you mad bro? | |
Thank you! That's what I thought he was doing. I'm glad he did a Pokemon game, but I wanted him to do Crysis 2 first. | |
hmm you know i never thought of that really | |
I had a feeling that this thread would be filled with the herpity-derp nonsense of "durr i plaed red n blue...lol gaem haznt changed a bit" Yeah, the basic objective hasn't changed to much, but this point is garbage. Based on that criteria, NES Super Mario Bros is no different from N64 Super Mario Bros. Once you beat the Elite Four and become champion, the game is just beginning. | |
Black/White decided to go beyond the simple "Team XYZ is trying to take over the world by awakening Pokemon they have no chance of controlling, leaving you to be the sole savior by somehow catching these would-be God Pokemon" and instead adopting something a bit more complex. Honestly, I find it hilarious how people like Yahtzee who have never picked up a Pokemon game since the first two generations are now trying to get back in to the series. I've seen a surprising number of them, and they all look at it with the same cynicism, commenting on how the formula hasn't changed in all these years. Hey, technically Dragon Quest's formula hasn't changed in all 9 of its games, and Final Fantasy didn't really change their tune until XI, which is where a lot of people agree the true decline of the series began. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" as it were. Pokemon has seen several upgrades in it's core system over the years. True, the same "rock-paper-scissors" mechanic remains, but that mechanic is in ALL RPGs. If you see something bright red and spewing flame, whether it's in Pokemon or Dragon Age, what the fuck do you think you should hit it with? Lightning? And don't get me started on just picking a Pokemon based on its core element. Every Pokemon can learn moves outside of its core element, and most anyone who's played this series for more than three generations will agree that THAT is the only way to play this game. You pick the Pokemon you like, then you use them regardless of what your opponent tries to throw at you. With infinite-use TM's, there is literally no reason why you should have to catch Pokemon simply to beat that one gym or tackle that one tough trainer. But maybe I'm going too far off into my own Pokemon fanaticism here. As much as I defend it, this review was quite entertaining. As I said, I've seen quite a few people trying to pick up this series, and it's always hilarious to see them nit-pick it and try to say it's not for them. Hey, you stopped at Pokemon Yellow. We all can tell this series wasn't for you then, it isn't going to be for you now, and it sure as shit won't be for you in another 15 years when they release Pokemon Chartreuse. | |
End game content has the same issues as multiplayer with the whole earn your fun thing. Most of the battles, even with gym leaders, are simple and can be overcome with basic type matching. | |
I can't believe people take Yahtzee seriously -.- He takes the bad points...and exaggerates them...half the time i bet he enjoys most games he plays, but if he doesn't say anything bad about the games, they won't be worth watching? I bet he is playing it right now, once you play Pokemon, your hooked. If not, then your an abomination on the world sent by Satan himself >.> | |
Haha, Yahtzee is implying that not everybody at university is playing Pokemon. | |
Haven't played Black or White at all yet, but I'd say I'm somewhat a fan of the series. Used to like it alot back when I was a kid then lost interest. Now I'm back to playing it again (funny how that seems to happen). Of course it was the discovery of the Nuzlocke run that brought me back in. That helped me to have fun again with Pokemon's constant grind by making it a bit more interesting. I'd encourage players to try one out sometime or another.
They eat slowpoke tail apparently. This is canon.
Wait there's a major difference between the two versions? What is this madness? | |
I didn't say the Pokemon battle mechanics were good, I only said it was complicated, bro. In fact the complexity of Pokemon is what turned me off to it. In my opinion there are only two games that ever did turn-based combat well. Paper Mario, and Chess. | |
Are you serious? The two games are practically identical... Anyway, I like Pokémon, but agree with various people that I don't play to collect 'em all, I play to battle. | |
This review was great. I thought I was outgrowing Yahtzee because I no longer found the jokes funny, but maybe it's just because he hasn't had any really fresh material in the last year. Since this is his first review of Pokemon, it gave a new realm for clever shenanigans. I laughed pretty hard at this one. | |
There are a lot of words behind the thinking. However, I am still seeing game play coming down to choosing from a list of options and only knowing if it's the right choice when the other guy moves. I don't like games with a considerable random factor. I haven't liked them ever since it took me six months to get full tier one in vanilla World of Warcraft. I prefer games like shoot 'em ups where I must think fast and in real time. Still, have fun with the new Pokemon. | |
said it all for me, thanks :) | |
I played Pokemon red or blue on a emulator on the PC like 10-15 years ago? Damn, that makes be feel rather old. Anyway, god to know I haven't missed much. IMO, Pokemon is all about leveling, it's the same story with almost any RPG. Grind, level up, beat a boss, repeat. That can get quite addictive after some time. | |
In chess both players have 16 pieces, and a 64 square board, with very specific movement constraints for each piece. In card games, the ones taken seriously that I can remember at least, the players hands aren't showing. Pokemon is like a chess match with 2 lanes and 1 queen each, or a poker game where everyone's hands are showing. It's not "strategy", it's memorizing a spread sheet. | |
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