Zero Punctuation: Yakuza 4

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Now all Yahtzee has to review is one of the many Quake games to complete the alphabet. Either that or Q-Bert.

OtherSideofSky:
I've always found the best way to enjoy the plot of a Yakuza game is to have a friend with you and laugh together through all the cutscenes. It's absolutely mind-boggling how insane the stories can get without the writers ever seeming to notice.

Oh, and the whole "visual novel" thing makes much much more sense when you realize that they're supposed to be digital choose-your-own-adventure books rather than games. People who play them always insist to me that some of them have really good stories, but I remain skeptical.

I would recommend that you pick up Phantom of Inferno from Amazon.com if you ever decide to try out a Visual Novel, especially with the recent Anime adaptation of Phantom of Inferno. The translation of the Visual Novel is a just a little bit iffy (although still perfectly understandable) but the story is intriguing, interesting, engaging, and surprisingly realistic. The characters are also interesting and/or likable.

So there's my two cents for what they're worth. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

KingofallCosmos:
Everyone wanting to try Yakuza can just start with 3, as it's a lot smoother than the first two. The story there is awesome, but not necessary to follow the events. Hell, part of the fun is half the time you don't know what's going on just look at those cute yakuza's acting all tough.. Ow and there's something immensely hysterical about clapping and yelling to bad kareoke songs.

Oh, I don't know. In all honesty I kind of like those karaoke songs. They seem to have a certain charm about them.

I still want to buy Yakuza 3 before playing this. The demo sold me, and the price in Amazon is temptimg me.

putowtin:

zombie711:
does anyone get a "God hand" vibe from this game.

PS what is a hostess club?

a brothel where the clients don't get to sleep with the slappers, just pretend that their going out for an hour, and pay a lot for the privilage.

OT waiting for "constable Blimey Chips" to be released!

So you pay for the privilage to make it feel like you threw your money off a bridge?

OT: Some of those jokes had me burst out laughing, such as god of dentistry. Also, this game seems fairly wellgrounded in reality, and I'm assuming the other ones are too, so why does the next one supposedly involve a zombie apocolypse?

Totally random comment time: Japanese language is structured so that most subjects (or verbs, depending) come at the very end of the sentence. Basically, it forces real Japanese conversations to sound very much the way you described, or very much like an anime. Which, is actually the opposite, those two are actually just sounding terribly Japanese. Seriously, Japanese is the hardest language to interject or interrupt someone in, because half the time you don't know what they said until they already finished. I to Japanese language have anger! Bastards...

I kinda like this game. I thought of it as my personal cure for the common "Saints Row 2" rehash of "DIE DIE FUCK YOU N-censored- DIE DIE SLUTTY HO DIE". It's the kind of thing that I expected from that Godfather game but didn't quite get, thanks to the retarded-as-fuck enemy AI and waaaaaaay overpowered friendlies.

This game is a nice change of pace, is all I'm saying. And yes, that includes the "...", "Guh?", and "Nani?" lines. It's nice to have everyone have a few quiet dramatic moments once in awhile instead of screaming "FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK" all the time, you know? XD

P.S: I'm kinda guessing you're being sarcastic about Tanimura, Yahtzee, because the Wiki states, and I quote, "Masayoshi Tanimura (谷村 正義, Tanimura Masayoshi), a 29-year-old policeman of the Japanese National Police, he is known as "Kamurocho's Tick" for his corruption and love of gambling." And the Youtube promo also mentions "25 years ago" about his dad, so I kinda think his age in your review is incorrect. (video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePVhkLrzlQE )

Hate to bust your balls, buddy. [dramatic silence] Oh who am I kidding, I LOVE balls! XD

"Nuh? Duh? Nani?"

That's how Japanese people really talk, can't fault the game for that one.

archvile93:

putowtin:

zombie711:
does anyone get a "God hand" vibe from this game.

PS what is a hostess club?

a brothel where the clients don't get to sleep with the slappers, just pretend that their going out for an hour, and pay a lot for the privilage.

OT waiting for "constable Blimey Chips" to be released!

So you pay for the privilage to make it feel like you threw your money off a bridge?

OT: Some of those jokes had me burst out laughing, such as god of dentistry. Also, this game seems fairly wellgrounded in reality, and I'm assuming the other ones are too, so why does the next one supposedly involve a zombie apocolypse?

Because zombies sell. Simple as that. Oh, and also, you get to see the cast behave in a completely different manner than how you saw them in Yakuza 4. X3

Am I the only one that noticed Ben showing a Samaria helmet when relating to Japan? btw I refer to Yahtzee as Ben because it's so much easier to type.

Oh Yahtzee, when will make a video of Magicka? (cute puppy eyes that cause hate)

OT: I got nothing really.

Like exploration huh?

'But the gold skulltulas are scattered all over the game world, and by the time you have collected them all it'll be near the end, when most of the issues a bigger wallet could have solved will have long since passed. Anyone who went out of their way to find all the skulltulas, knowing the reward or lack of same, is a 100 percenter, and therefore mad.'

So you like gameworld exploration, but dont like hunting down gold Skulltulas. You sir are condradicting yourself.

*glares* >/

KlokwerkSolja:
Like exploration huh?

'But the gold skulltulas are scattered all over the game world, and by the time you have collected them all it'll be near the end, when most of the issues a bigger wallet could have solved will have long since passed. Anyone who went out of their way to find all the skulltulas, knowing the reward or lack of same, is a 100 percenter, and therefore mad.'

So you like gameworld exploration, but dont like hunting down gold Skulltulas. You sir are condradicting yourself.

*glares* >/

He doesn't like the reward behind them down. I believe the last reward you get from finding every last one is 200 rupees.

Am I the only one who lolled when Yahtzee said "Nani"? Haha having him speaking jap is hilarious.

Okay, I know you, Yahtzee, don't care about this individual's opinion since you have legions of fans who'd knock you out, drag you back to their home, and pull a Misery on your ankles as soon as look at you, but:

I love Yakuza 4. Sega did marvelous with this final installment and everyone who bought Yakuza 4 full price thinks the same. Now, here's the bit that (if you cared) matters to you:

This was a good review! Not great since you don't seem to understand most of those noises and facial expressions made are actual Japanese mannerisms (and "nani" means "what?", unless you do know but played ignorant for the quite funny joke), but very good. You did your job, your mic was proper, your jokes were mostly hits, and the points you picked on were all valid (I thought of that last joke when I first played Yakuza 4 too, actually XD).
_There was a while where everything you did was shit. Your mic was muffled, you seemed to barely give a shit about playing the game, even to the climax, and for every rare funny joke there were two to three dick jokes (or dick similes). Lately you've been doing great, and my friends and I have been thoroughly enjoying your show. Please keep on this witty and informative run you're on!

Scud422:
Now all Yahtzee has to review is one of the many Quake games to complete the alphabet. Either that or Q-Bert.

Hell, this or someone make a game called Q! Good, bad, meh, even worse than Kane & Lynch 2, whatever, someone just make it and get Zero Punctuation to review it!

Futurenerd:
Now taking bets! How long before someone makes a NuhDuhNani remix!?

If you ask me, I personally think DuhNuhNani sounds better than NuhDuhNani.

So... Visual novel.... Visual novel w/o tits.... Dare I ask what the next item on that list is, Croshaw!?

30 seconds in and i'm already laughing my head off... damn

A1:

orangecharger:
Bwahahahaa -- nice opening loved it! "Japanese are into some crazy shit!" right after a heartfelt balanced statement over the recent tragedy -- ah Yahtzee you cheeky bastard -- Another good quote "sumptuous fruit basket for your fist" -- Milk. Nose. Mess. I wasn't going to buy this game anyways - having watched the earlier Escapist review -- but now I am definitely not. I don't want to read the bottom of my tv for the sake of "realism". Realism where I am a kung fu god single handling kicking the ass off of everyone as long as I am in the right place to do it. Pshhhfft. Meh.

It's not about "realism" as few if any video games are truly realistic, it's about authenticity. When a game takes place in Japan it's only logical that the people actually speak Japanese.

And Kung Fu is Chinese, not Japanese.

Kung fu is the generic term for all matial arts. Therfore Karate is a form of kung fu.

Is it just me or does this episode in fact have visuals distinctively above the already high fun rating of ZP?

Batsamaritan:
Kung fu is the generic term for all matial arts.

No, it is not. Budo is.

That should be an eventual badge. "A to ZP" Watch the entire Zero Punctuation Alphabet.

Batsamaritan:

A1:

orangecharger:
Bwahahahaa -- nice opening loved it! "Japanese are into some crazy shit!" right after a heartfelt balanced statement over the recent tragedy -- ah Yahtzee you cheeky bastard -- Another good quote "sumptuous fruit basket for your fist" -- Milk. Nose. Mess. I wasn't going to buy this game anyways - having watched the earlier Escapist review -- but now I am definitely not. I don't want to read the bottom of my tv for the sake of "realism". Realism where I am a kung fu god single handling kicking the ass off of everyone as long as I am in the right place to do it. Pshhhfft. Meh.

It's not about "realism" as few if any video games are truly realistic, it's about authenticity. When a game takes place in Japan it's only logical that the people actually speak Japanese.

And Kung Fu is Chinese, not Japanese.

Kung fu is the generic term for all matial arts. Therfore Karate is a form of kung fu.

Its CHINESE Martial Arts, while still broad, it really just refers to ones from China. Kirate is not from China.

i agree

Batsamaritan:

A1:

orangecharger:
Bwahahahaa -- nice opening loved it! "Japanese are into some crazy shit!" right after a heartfelt balanced statement over the recent tragedy -- ah Yahtzee you cheeky bastard -- Another good quote "sumptuous fruit basket for your fist" -- Milk. Nose. Mess. I wasn't going to buy this game anyways - having watched the earlier Escapist review -- but now I am definitely not. I don't want to read the bottom of my tv for the sake of "realism". Realism where I am a kung fu god single handling kicking the ass off of everyone as long as I am in the right place to do it. Pshhhfft. Meh.

It's not about "realism" as few if any video games are truly realistic, it's about authenticity. When a game takes place in Japan it's only logical that the people actually speak Japanese.

And Kung Fu is Chinese, not Japanese.

Kung fu is the generic term for all matial arts. Therfore Karate is a form of kung fu.

That's not exactly true. Kung Fu is a generic term for all Chinese Martial Arts. It doesn't include martial arts from other places like Japan, Thailand, or Korea to name a few.

Scud422:
Now all Yahtzee has to review is one of the many Quake games to complete the alphabet. Either that or Q-Bert.

can i point out the irony of ppl in japan playing Quake??

If you're actually interested (based on the end tag), Yakuza is pronounced basically how it looks, but kind of flat. There is no stress in Japanese... So it's not YaKUza.

redbeta22:
Why are Japanese games full of weird reaction noises? Wah? Huh? I've always thought they were there because of the translation from Japanese to English, but if they're in the Japanese VO as well? Could somebody explain?

Similar to how American movies go What?RUN!and shiiiiii-!.

A1:

LCP:
Hehehe, but then again, Japanese ARE into some weird shit

Okay. There are at least two things about that statement that are problematic. First, it's too general. It insinuates that all Japanese people are "into some weird shit" or in other words they all have the same tastes. That's quite frankly getting borderline racist.

And second it's worth noting that there is probably a decent chance that many people in Japan think similar things about people who live in other countries, if you catch my drift.

Japan being weird is something of a running joke on the internet, steak sauce. And it wouldn't be racism, I think. Strikes me more as Xenophobia, if I had to put a name on it.

Even then it's not really that. There are just some national stereotypes that people use, and most are utterly harmless and have slight truth, like this one. Others of note being fat Americans, polite Canadians, etc.

I want devil-darwin on a shirt that says "Leave them to darwin"

GrimHeaper:

redbeta22:
Why are Japanese games full of weird reaction noises? Wah? Huh? I've always thought they were there because of the translation from Japanese to English, but if they're in the Japanese VO as well? Could somebody explain?

Similar to how American movies go What?RUN!and shiiiiii-!.

or "Nononononono NO!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s

icyneesan:
How could you not enjoy shirtless muscle men fighting on top of a building?

NA-NI

or a big ass warship? :P
(MGS4 hehe)

Ironic Pirate:

A1:

LCP:
Hehehe, but then again, Japanese ARE into some weird shit

Okay. There are at least two things about that statement that are problematic. First, it's too general. It insinuates that all Japanese people are "into some weird shit" or in other words they all have the same tastes. That's quite frankly getting borderline racist.

And second it's worth noting that there is probably a decent chance that many people in Japan think similar things about people who live in other countries, if you catch my drift.

Japan being weird is something of a running joke on the internet, steak sauce. And it wouldn't be racism, I think. Strikes me more as Xenophobia, if I had to put a name on it.

Even then it's not really that. There are just some national stereotypes that people use, and most are utterly harmless and have slight truth, like this one. Others of note being fat Americans, polite Canadians, etc.

I get what you're saying. And I did already acknowledge that perhaps racism may not be the best word to use. Prejudice may be a better fit and as you indicated xenophobia also probably works.

And yes at least some stereotypes appear to have at least some basis in reality, like taking a characteristic of an individual or a certain number of individuals within a group and attributing it to the entire group. But of even if there is a small basis in reality that doesn't excuse stereotyping or make the practice any less unfortunate or problematic. And wether or not stereotypes cause harm is probably open to debate. As I understand it there is evidence that suggests that stereotypes can have negative psychological effects on people. But in any case many people find stereotypes to be offensive and as such it's generally preferable to avoid them.

fantastic review

A1:

Batsamaritan:

A1:

It's not about "realism" as few if any video games are truly realistic, it's about authenticity. When a game takes place in Japan it's only logical that the people actually speak Japanese.

And Kung Fu is Chinese, not Japanese.

Kung fu is the generic term for all matial arts. Therfore Karate is a form of kung fu.

That's not exactly true. Kung Fu is a generic term for all Chinese Martial Arts. It doesn't include martial arts from other places like Japan, Thailand, or Korea to name a few.

Fair nuff, not what I was told but what the hey!

bye the bye, karate was brought to japan from china and refined.

Batsamaritan:

A1:

Batsamaritan:

Kung fu is the generic term for all matial arts. Therfore Karate is a form of kung fu.

That's not exactly true. Kung Fu is a generic term for all Chinese Martial Arts. It doesn't include martial arts from other places like Japan, Thailand, or Korea to name a few.

Fair nuff, not what I was told but what the hey!

bye the bye, karate was brought to japan from china and refined.

That's not entirely accurate either. What was brought to Japan (Okinawa to be more specific) from China were Chinese martial arts. Over the course of centuries the people of Okinawa developed Te from these arts. And later still these Te styles were eventually developed into Karate by the people of Okinawa. Karate was ultimately invented by Japan and as such it's generally not considered to be a Chinese martial art.

Lots of truth as usual. Especially about the stupid things Japanese people like, LOL.

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