Recap: Episode One

 Pages 1 2 NEXT
 

Recap: Episode One

Our recap of Episode One of Game of Thrones.

Read Full Article

Very Fun and Light hearted recap. Would liek to know your feelings on the whole thing so far too

FYI: I am a serious GoT fanboy who has been to 2 series related gatherings, meeting the author the king and the Bastard in the process. I am also a big escapist fan so want ot see what it looks like when worlds collide

crotalidian:
Very Fun and Light hearted recap. Would liek to know your feelings on the whole thing so far too

FYI: I am a serious GoT fanboy who has been to 2 series related gatherings, meeting the author the king and the Bastard in the process. I am also a big escapist fan so want ot see what it looks like when worlds collide

It's tough to judge from this episode, which had a hell of a lot of work to do. One hour to cover all of those characters? Very difficult, indeed. So far, though, so good. Obviously some things got tweaked and changed - Viserys and Daenerys got the hell chopped out of their story - but I think it works well.

Good recap. I wasn't sure if that really was the Queen in that last scene. 'Flowers in the Attic', lol, er, I mean... icky!!!!!

I think I may have to read the books now. If only to find out sooner what horrible thing happens to that white haired wanna be king asshole. I'm guessing/wishing he gets what he deserves by the end. But no need to spoil anything for me, I'll read and find out.

Any Wheel of Time fans here that have read all of these? I was wondering how Game of Thrones hold up to my favorite fantasy series, even tho one seems more based in a more realistic world, and the other has more 'magic'.

thats interesting to note about, the purple eyes. I found myself wondering how a family of entirely albino's would come about. They probably should have tried to find some other way to visually represent racial 'differentness.' Coming in as someone who knows nothing about the series, i thought they did a very nice job of establishing all the relationships. While i doubt i'm going to be able to keep track of any of the names for some time, that's not terribly important.

I kept hoping they'd make a more interesting choice with Jason Mamoa's character, namely a bit of empathy or compassion for albino girl; but that probably had more to do with the fact that i watched this immediately after The Borgias. Lot of rape last night :(

I read the books for the first time in anticipation of this series. I thoroughly enjoyed the books (ok, not the fourth one so much), and so far the series has been watchably passable.

The only thing really dragging it down is the whole Pentos storyline. The whole thing was already kind of cheesy in the books, but on screen it sinks to the level of an overproduced porno crossed with a mixed bag of ethnic stereotypes.

Jaime and Tyrion are awesome so far. Unfortunately, they're not supposed to be cool characters until much further along in the story. At the beginning, you're supposed to think they are the big bads, or at least aligned with the big bads.

The Stark family casting is pretty good. Sansa is a little too whiny, but I might be the only fan who actually sympathizes with her.

Spectrum_Prez:
I read the books for the first time in anticipation of this series. I thoroughly enjoyed the books (ok, not the fourth one so much), and so far the series has been watchably passable.

The only thing really dragging it down is the whole Pentos storyline. The whole thing was already kind of cheesy in the books, but on screen it sinks to the level of an overproduced porno crossed with a mixed bag of ethnic stereotypes.

Jaime and Tyrion are awesome so far. Unfortunately, they're not supposed to be cool characters until much further along in the story. At the beginning, you're supposed to think they are the big bads, or at least aligned with the big bads.

The Stark family casting is pretty good. Sansa is a little too whiny, but I might be the only fan who actually sympathizes with her.

per book 4 sansa yes, alot of people like more more after she become alyane

joebear15:

per book 4 sansa yes, alot of people like more more after she become alyane

Yeah, while Sansa got a lot more interesting, Cersei got a lot more boring and predictable. What a trade-off.

Also, I'm looking forward to who they cast for Brienne.

I came into this show when I had only seen a huge poster. With no knowledge about it I watched an hour, and I can already say I'm a fan. High budget, good acting and sets the foundation for a good story. Even though I did not enjoy the lighthaired people, who I just refer to as the elves due to their appearence and the kings personalit, but it showed of a bit of the broadness of the world, so I guess it was a good thing.

I'm a huge geek for good shows, and this one was quickly added to my list.

I thought it was pretty good. I haven't read the books, but what I saw intrigued me. And Tyrion is fucking awesome.

Malgan:
I came into this show when I had only seen a huge poster. With no knowledge about it I watched an hour, and I can already say I'm a fan. High budget, good acting and sets the foundation for a good story. Even though I did not enjoy the lighthaired people, who I just refer to as the elves due to their appearence and the kings personalit, but it showed of a bit of the broadness of the world, so I guess it was a good thing.

I'm a huge geek for good shows, and this one was quickly added to my list.

FYI: the bro and sis with the light hair are the last remains of the former ruling dynasty back across the sea in Westeros, the Targaryens. They got chased out by a rebellion led by Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark, largely sparked by the madness of the last Targaryen king. They were big fans of Dragons, too btw. King Robert wants them dead because their family killed his wife-to-be, Ned's sister, as is explained in the first episode.

Sober Thal:
Any Wheel of Time fans here that have read all of these? I was wondering how Game of Thrones hold up to my favorite fantasy series, even tho one seems more based in a more realistic world, and the other has more 'magic'.

I have to be careful here because I've gotten into fights about this before. I believe that A Song of Fire and Ice (the Game of Thrones series title) is superior to the Wheel of Time. Mainly due to its more solid foundation in reality (comparatively of course), and its more subtle approach to magic in said world. It's the series I recommend to people who are thinking of trying out fantasy for the first time. No series has ever kept me guessing and off balance like Martin's opus has.

Just watched the first episode.

First impression:.... It was pretty good. Definitely shaping up to be the HBO fantasy world that we need. I hope they don't hold back on the geekiness. I want magic and fireballs all up in this bitch

Dirty Apple:

Sober Thal:
Any Wheel of Time fans here that have read all of these? I was wondering how Game of Thrones hold up to my favorite fantasy series, even tho one seems more based in a more realistic world, and the other has more 'magic'.

I have to be careful here because I've gotten into fights about this before. I believe that A Song of Fire and Ice (the Game of Thrones series title) is superior to the Wheel of Time. Mainly due to its more solid foundation in reality (comparatively of course), and its more subtle approach to magic in said world. It's the series I recommend to people who are thinking of trying out fantasy for the first time. No series has ever kept me guessing and off balance like Martin's opus has.

No problems from me, I won't fight on this.

Did you read the Wheel of Time and really like it tho? I want someone who likes what I do to tell me what they think of Fire and Ice.

I'll buy the first in a week unless my friend finds his copy sooner. He told me he couldn't get into it, but I really don't care for his opinions on movies t.v. or books. He's still okay tho.

It's not the worst thing I've watched, I'll see how it goes.

Kinda disappointed though that they use the word 'fuck'... It's not Earth and they'll have had a different language evolution than Anglo-Saxon.

I know it was written that way by GRRM, who I quite like, but still it strikes me as a bit lame.

It's all kinda seems aimed at spotty adolesents.. oooo boobles and swearies. I know there's such a thing as context, but to me it all seems a bit jarring, if it was really trying to be mature about it then I think it would have succeeded more had they not bothered and just got on with telling the story. There's a big difference between the written word and visual media, you can set the tone better in writing and it's not always the more mature option to splash it on screen.

so what did we learned today is: it's ok to rape your wife as long as you give her a horse first

Sober Thal:
Did you read the Wheel of Time and really like it tho? I want someone who likes what I do to tell me what they think of Fire and Ice.

I see what you're saying, so I'll be honest, I was deeply in love with the WoT series. I tore through the books, and enjoyed every second of them... for about the first six. It was at this point that I started to feel as though Jordan had let the story get away from him. My interest wained and eventually I stopped caring all together.

In an effort to help, though, I'll compare the books I read and their general feel to ASoFaI. Rand & Company's adventures have a very strong fantasy feel to them. The farm boy protagonist, the hand of fate in play, magic widely in use, a great supreme evil that must be stopped, these are all well known fantasy tropes. Jordan did a great job fleshing them out, but there is definitely a recognizable formula being applied.

Martin seems to be aware of these tropes and works to subvert them. The greatest subversion he employs is also his most shocking. I'm reluctant to write about it here because it's pivotal to the series, but if you like, send me a message and we'll talk. Try the series, it will consistently surprise you. Sometimes happily, often painfully, but my goodness you will remember and feel it.

I loved the recap. Hopefully we'll keep seeing mor eof these as the series progresses.

Dirty Apple:

Sober Thal:
Did you read the Wheel of Time and really like it tho? I want someone who likes what I do to tell me what they think of Fire and Ice.

I see what you're saying, so I'll be honest, I was deeply in love with the WoT series. I tore through the books, and enjoyed every second of them... for about the first six. It was at this point that I started to feel as though Jordan had let the story get away from him. My interest wained and eventually I stopped caring all together.

In an effort to help, though, I'll compare the books I read and their general feel to ASoFaI. Rand & Company's adventures have a very strong fantasy feel to them. The farm boy protagonist, the hand of fate in play, magic widely in use, a great supreme evil that must be stopped, these are all well known fantasy tropes. Jordan did a great job fleshing them out, but there is definitely a recognizable formula being applied.

Martin seems to be aware of these tropes and works to subvert them. The greatest subversion he employs is also his most shocking. I'm reluctant to write about it here because it's pivotal to the series, but if you like, send me a message and we'll talk. Try the series, it will consistently surprise you. Sometimes happily, often painfully, but my goodness you will remember and feel it.

Yeah, I'm sold on ASoFaI, thanks.

As for WoT tho, after book 6 (my favorite one btw), my friends and I joke that he had his wife write most of the books. The seemingly endless and pointless female character chapters did drain us a bit. But I'm still looking forward to the last book. Plus, some later on parts with Egwene are absolutely epic. Nynaeve too.

EDIT: 1979 was a good year ; )

Sober Thal:

Dirty Apple:

Sober Thal:
Any Wheel of Time fans here that have read all of these? I was wondering how Game of Thrones hold up to my favorite fantasy series, even tho one seems more based in a more realistic world, and the other has more 'magic'.

I have to be careful here because I've gotten into fights about this before. I believe that A Song of Fire and Ice (the Game of Thrones series title) is superior to the Wheel of Time. Mainly due to its more solid foundation in reality (comparatively of course), and its more subtle approach to magic in said world. It's the series I recommend to people who are thinking of trying out fantasy for the first time. No series has ever kept me guessing and off balance like Martin's opus has.

No problems from me, I won't fight on this.

Did you read the Wheel of Time and really like it tho? I want someone who likes what I do to tell me what they think of Fire and Ice.

I'll buy the first in a week unless my friend finds his copy sooner. He told me he couldn't get into it, but I really don't care for his opinions on movies t.v. or books. He's still okay tho.

I'm a big fan of both. I first read A Game of Thrones about 6 years ago, and started on The Wheel of Time about 12 years ago, and personally I like George R.R. Martin's epic.

One of the key differences is in the writing, Martin is able to manage numerous characters with a moving plot-line far, far better. With Jordan's writing, he follows each character or separate plot-line in detail and parallel to each other. When the series gets too big and there's like 6 or 7 major plot-lines going on, the pace of the series slows to a crawl.

Martin on the other hand writes in a slightly different fashion. Each chapter is simply titled with the name of a character, and you witness the events through their perspective. But where Jordan bogs down the storyline with numerous parallel plots, Martin expertly leaves what isn't necessary unsaid and maneuvers different plot lines by jumping into the various characters POV mainly for key events. This also makes it more interesting to read, as you see the world through a variety of vary different eyes. The innocent fun loving Bran, the fairytale wannabe Sansa, the cunning but bitter imp Tyrion, the veteran leader Ned, and so on. The storyline events move on regardless but each chapter you get to see them from a different world view.

I can help with the WOT question. I am one of the fans that stuck with it during the 'still good but less than great books'. I love WOT for what it is, it will always have a special place on my bookshelf and I am eagerly awaiting the finale. As for ASOIAF, i read through the books back in 2006 and just finished a 2nd reading in anticipation for Dance. Ice and Fire is fantastic. Read the books and by the time you finish Dance should be out (for real this time!)

Ahaha, a very amusing recap (lol at Fat King Bob and Uncle Benji). I'll definitely read the future ones as well. And these will probably be quite useful to folks who haven't read the books - I'm still not sure how coherent this episode was for them.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned - have you read the books, Susan?

This first episode really felt like a mixed bag for me. I loved the Starks, Jon, Bran and especially Arya (I can't wait to see more of her antics). What I didn't like was how "HBO'd" up the story seems to have been. Granted there is plenty of sex in the novel which I don't mind, but this first episode seemed almost exploitative with its liberal use of nudity and the word "fuck" (for example, rather then say "fucking" in the novel like he did in the show, Robert used "wenching," which seems much more appropo to a story set in a fantasy land where language evolved differently. Granted it has the same inference and doesn't really matter, but they seemed to be using the word just for the sake of being offensive, hence "HBO'd" up). The other thing I thought was REALLY poorly handled was the consummation scene between Drogo and Dany. In the novel it was the first time that Dany learned that despite his outward harsh appearance, Drogo could be quite gentle and loving towards her. In the show that really didn't come across and it seemed too much like rape.

Overall the acting and story is quite good (and for someone who isn't even much of a fan of the novel, that's saying something) but I just hope as the series continues they aren't "trying too hard" to be controversial for controversialities' sake at the expense of story.

Spectrum_Prez:

Malgan:
I came into this show when I had only seen a huge poster. With no knowledge about it I watched an hour, and I can already say I'm a fan. High budget, good acting and sets the foundation for a good story. Even though I did not enjoy the lighthaired people, who I just refer to as the elves due to their appearence and the kings personalit, but it showed of a bit of the broadness of the world, so I guess it was a good thing.

I'm a huge geek for good shows, and this one was quickly added to my list.

FYI: the bro and sis with the light hair are the last remains of the former ruling dynasty back across the sea in Westeros, the Targaryens. They got chased out by a rebellion led by Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark, largely sparked by the madness of the last Targaryen king. They were big fans of Dragons, too btw. King Robert wants them dead because their family killed his wife-to-be, Ned's sister, as is explained in the first episode.

Wow, things suddenly made so much sense. Thanks a lot!

stansa and dany seem older than they are described presumably because of what happens to them later

ThaBenMan:
Ahaha, a very amusing recap (lol at Fat King Bob and Uncle Benji). I'll definitely read the future ones as well. And these will probably be quite useful to folks who haven't read the books - I'm still not sure how coherent this episode was for them.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned - have you read the books, Susan?

Yep. Well, didn't finish the fourth one because I was bored out of my mind, but otherwise, yep.

Spectrum_Prez:

joebear15:

per book 4 sansa yes, alot of people like more more after she become alyane

Yeah, while Sansa got a lot more interesting, Cersei got a lot more boring and predictable. What a trade-off.

Also, I'm looking forward to who they cast for Brienne.

I was wondering about that too. I wouldnt want to be hired to play an intentionally ugly character, one of my favourites characters in the entire book though.

So far I loved the first episode but I dont remember that whorehouse from the book. Nice of Jaime to do that for his brother though. :P

I'm thoroughly hooked at this point, and luckily I have a friend who's a fan and eager to explain every little detail, and recaps like this to keep me sane.

It's intriguing as hell, but also very confusing. Thank you, Ms Arendt!

Susan Arendt:

Yep. Well, didn't finish the fourth one because I was bored out of my mind, but otherwise, yep.

I nearly gave up on book 4 (well book 3, part 2) but stick with it. The last third/quarter of the book is a massive page turner really drew me back in.

Great summary, Susan. Comprehensive and lighthearted. It explains well the plot (without revealing spoilers) to folks who have not read the books.

In the spirit of explaining what is happening in the story, please let me clarify 3 points that I found in the summary:

- Viserys is a bastard, yes, but the whole getting Danny naked is not so outrageous if we explain that the Targaryens use to marry each other (brother and sister). This is also an excuse that Cersei uses for bumping and grinding Jamie, even though they are Lannisters and not Targaryens

- The "servant" who brings in the note from Lady Arryn is Maester freaking Luwin! :-) He is a bit more prominent than a servant, he's earned his chain links. Donald Sumpter does a great job in portraying him

- Although we may feel more used to the term "Sir" to refer to a knight, the actual term in the story is "Ser" (same thing in my opinion); thus Ser Jorah Mormont. This makes no difference really, only to emphasize that the story is set in a different world and not medieval UK.

I am looking forward to watching the rest of the season and hoping it will go for the full 7 seasons (GRRM has 5 years in which to write the last two!).

Tyrion is, by far, my favourite character. Pete is fantastic as the Imp... we can already infer a deep intellect emanating form him.

It was interesting. I'd read the books and had been looking forward to the show for awhile now. My sister, on the other hand, hadn't read any of the books and knew nothing about the series or the world or anything. We watched the premiere of the show together, and while I ended up explaining a few things here and there to her, she actually managed to get the gist of the story herself and ended up really enjoying it. I was glad I watched with her because it gave me a whole different perspective on things.

To some extent I almost wonder if people who haven't read the books might enjoy the show more than those who have read them and feel the need to nitpick over every detail. If you don't go into it with all the expectations and knowledge you may find yourself enjoying it for its own sake, with the high production quality and, honestly, really well done acting and writing. Not saying that someone who's read the books don't have the potential to love it so far - I did, even though things were obviously clipped in some places, or changed around, it happens when adapting things to film - but there's definitely something to seeing it with an open mind.

Of course... I can't help but hope people who enjoy the show give the books a try. I know the first one might seem a bit long (introducing the world, and the characters, and the history) at first, but the Song of Ice and Fire series is easily among my top three favorites of all time. G.R.R.M.'s writing is by far some of the best I've ever had the pleasure of diving into and I'm glad it's being so well adapted in the show.

Triaed:
Great summary, Susan. Comprehensive and lighthearted. It explains well the plot (without revealing spoilers) to folks who have not read the books.

In the spirit of explaining what is happening in the story, please let me clarify 3 points that I found in the summary...

Susan wanted to keep these summaries limited just to the information presented in the show. While fans of the books (which we all are) may know some of the bits that are left out or foreshadowed, these recaps are meant to treat the show as if the viewer had no prior knowledge. I even edited out a short bit that I felt gave too strong a hint about the big twist that's coming for the Stark family.

Please keep in mind that some people reading this board may not know what's going to happen next, so let's try not to ruin the surprises.

While Susan is writing about this as a stand alone series, Greg Tito's write up gets into some of the finer points of the adaptation. It's the best way we could come up with to satisfy both audiences.

Steve Butts:
[quote="Triaed" post="6.278149.10844811"]Great summary, Susan. Comprehensive and lighthearted. It explains well the plot (without revealing spoilers) to folks who have not read the books.

-Snip-

Please keep in mind that some people reading this board may not know what's going to happen next, so let's try not to ruin the surprises.

While Susan is writing about this as a stand alone series, Greg Tito's write up gets into some of the finer points of the adaptation. It's the best way we could come up with to satisfy both audiences.

I did not think I was spoiling the story with my comments but providing background info.

I see how the comment about the Targaryens and Lannisters can be taken as spoilers and I apologise for it. I want new readers and viewers to fully experience the sense of discovery!

I trust the Maester Luwin and "Ser" clarifications are not taken as such.

Greg's article and subsequent thread are great! (careful reading, there are some spoilers in it)

Triaed:
I did not think I was spoiling the story with my comments but providing background info.

I see how the comment about the Targaryens and Lannisters can be taken as spoilers and I apologise for it. I want new readers and viewers to fully experience the sense of discovery!

To be honest, I wasn't necessarily calling you out. I was just kind of putting it out there for the sake of everyone who's joining in the discussion.

The weird thing is we know a lot of stuff from the books that aren't revealed during the same scenes in the show. I don't think they ever really tie what's going on in Pentos to what's going on in King's Landing in the show, but it's pretty obvious in the books.

Spangles:
It's all kinda seems aimed at spotty adolesents.. oooo boobles and swearies. I know there's such a thing as context, but to me it all seems a bit jarring, if it was really trying to be mature about it then I think it would have succeeded more had they not bothered and just got on with telling the story. There's a big difference between the written word and visual media, you can set the tone better in writing and it's not always the more mature option to splash it on screen.

Gotta agree with you on this one. I mean, personally, I enjoyed the breasts on display, but I watched the episode with my wife and she ended up being pretty disgusted by the misogynistic overtones. I realize that it's a sort of realistic portrayal of how women have been historically treated in medieval settings, but I really think the show could have down played those elements.

For example, was it really necessary for the lingering close up on Daenerys' breast as Viserys caressed it? It was gratuitous and unnecessary, imo. Viserys' creepy familiarity and objectification of Daenerys could have easily been portrayed without that, or without any nudity at all. As far as the wedding scene between her and Drogo, it was almost tasteful in comparison, but still, could have faded out before the nudity.

Anyway, yeah, the rampant titties and swearing I think took away from the show as "serious" film making, as it seemed mostly tacked on and gratuitous. Hopefully once they get a few episodes in, things settle down and there's less of a sensationalistic feel to the series.

 Pages 1 2 NEXT

Reply to Thread

Log in or Register to Comment
Have an account? Login below:
With Facebook:Login With Facebook
or
Username:  
Password:  
  
Not registered? To sign up for an account with The Escapist:
Register With Facebook
Register With Facebook
or
Registered for a free account here