Stolen Pixels #255: The Veep

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Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

The PSN stuff was intended to be kept secret, and wasn't. The stuff here at the Escapist is there for the express purpose of being shared. You're worried a hacker might infiltrate the Escapist supercomputers and steal your AIM handle? Dude, they can get that by just visiting your profile.

Susan Arendt:

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

Then don't enter it. We don't require your personal information in order to view the site. Or even to be registered on it. You can put in as much or as little information as you like.

That's what I was about to say. Either that or "Wait, did they change the system while I wasn't looking?"

Excellent parody of a KB commercial.

I kinda think the comic is in poor taste, considering every comic has done this joke and acts like Sony didn't even bothered to try to keep someone out of their systems.

Poor Sony, I think this might be the final nail in the coffin for consoles. Unless the new Nintendo WiiII is so hot MS has to release new hardware to compete this might just be the last console gen.

saregos:

Wolfram01:
BSOD, Skyrim, Catherine. Nice choices lol... he must have a Dell.

Second one's Lair, actually. Same shot here: http://www.gamemunition.com/articles/10-most-overhyped-ps3-titles/ #3 (yeah, it's probably somewhere on escapist too but I'm lazy)

Ok, those retards at that site THINK MASS EFFECT IS AN XBOX 360 EXCLUSIVE??! i saw the PC version out in stores Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the xbox version.
OT: Nice comic again shamus! keep em comin'!

"Well my sapphic friend"

Gold.

Shamus Young:

The PSN stuff was intended to be kept secret, and wasn't. The stuff here at the Escapist is there for the express purpose of being shared. You're worried a hacker might infiltrate the Escapist supercomputers and steal your AIM handle? Dude, they can get that by just visiting your profile.

Not to mention that all that data is optional. Sheesh. I'd be worried about all those porno sites you subscribe to, using the same password as your banking site.

Epslion.Bear:

The Artificially Prolonged:
HAHA very funny. But shame on you kicking us ps3 users when we're down, still funny though.

Also apprantely the psn will be back up on the 3rd May, so silver lining an all.
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1164641p1.html

More kicking Sony I think than the users

Yeah true haha, you'd think sony would be used to it by now

Haha, well done. Love the comic strip.

Susan Arendt:

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

Then don't enter it. We don't require your personal information in order to view the site. Or even to be registered on it. You can put in as much or as little information as you like.

Still.. Having those settings there DOES send a hypocritical vibe, Susan.. Just sayin'.

Anyway, Shamus? This would be hilarious, if only the first panel wasn't so incorrect. Sony didn't GIVE hackers anything. Hackers took it. There's a big difference between taking something and being given something.

Hackers, who are most likely just cyber criminals, not at all gamers, broke in and STOLE information. Claiming or even insinuating that Sony GAVE them the information sends an extremely misleading message to those that see it, unless they're not totally insane.

Shamus Young:

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

The PSN stuff was intended to be kept secret, and wasn't. The stuff here at the Escapist is there for the express purpose of being shared. You're worried a hacker might infiltrate the Escapist supercomputers and steal your AIM handle? Dude, they can get that by just visiting your profile.

Ahem.. I highly doubt AIM was his emphasis here. Occupation though.. Birthdate (which is what's being emphasized the most in recent Escapist articles primarily)

There's reporting legitimate news, like a lot of gaming news sites do.. And posting extremely biased, sensationalist article titles which mislead readers to blindly comment without reading the actual source, like someone who is remotely sane.

Keith K:

FogHornG36:

Keith K:

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

They get that stuff so gamers can interact, also, there is no reason for hackers to steal that info, they attacked sony to ether hurt them, or get credit card info.

The Escapist has my credit info too. And if there's one major lesson to be learned from Sony it's that arrogance is the catalyst.

Ha! Exactly! Publisher's Club members, yo. Also, why is there no feature on The Escapist to HIDE my birthdate and such? Y'know, so only the relevant people at THE ESCAPIST are the only other authorized persons to see it?

MattAn24:

Susan Arendt:

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

Then don't enter it. We don't require your personal information in order to view the site. Or even to be registered on it. You can put in as much or as little information as you like.

Still.. Having those settings there DOES send a hypocritical vibe, Susan.. Just sayin'.

I honestly don't see how. The information is there to help folks better connect with other members of the community, should they want to. It's entirely optional, there for you to use as a tool, nothing more. How are we hypocrites for reporting on a security issue that is affecting readers while simultaneously NOT demanding that readers provide us with the kind of info that was compromised? I really don't understand the thought process at work.

Susan Arendt:

MattAn24:

Susan Arendt:

Then don't enter it. We don't require your personal information in order to view the site. Or even to be registered on it. You can put in as much or as little information as you like.

Still.. Having those settings there DOES send a hypocritical vibe, Susan.. Just sayin'.

I honestly don't see how. The information is there to help folks better connect with other members of the community, should they want to. It's entirely optional, there for you to use as a tool, nothing more. How are we hypocrites for reporting on a security issue that is affecting readers while simultaneously NOT demanding that readers provide us with the kind of info that was compromised? I really don't understand the thought process at work.

Okay, I feel like I have to ask this, then. How are my credit card details that I submitted to The Escapist for Publisher's Club being stored? Where do those details go?

MattAn24:

Susan Arendt:

MattAn24:

Still.. Having those settings there DOES send a hypocritical vibe, Susan.. Just sayin'.

I honestly don't see how. The information is there to help folks better connect with other members of the community, should they want to. It's entirely optional, there for you to use as a tool, nothing more. How are we hypocrites for reporting on a security issue that is affecting readers while simultaneously NOT demanding that readers provide us with the kind of info that was compromised? I really don't understand the thought process at work.

Okay, I feel like I have to ask this, then. How are my credit card details that I submitted to The Escapist for Publisher's Club being stored? Where do those details go?

You know, considering your apparent paranoia concerning the Escapist's security, I figured you'd be the last person to want information on how it's all protected publicly posted.

Also, nobody is mad at Sony for having the information, they're pissed because they didn't protect it vehemently enough. Nobody has hacked the Escapist and stolen credit info, so calling us hypocrites is just using the word wrong.

OP:
The service will resume once they're done sifting through the wreckage, but I wonder if those of us on the outside will ever find out what the black box has to say about how the system failed. Was this a hacker of extraordinary skill and tenacity, or were the PSN caretakers simply criminally inept?

It's never a hacker of extraordinary that and this. There are only two options. Either the victim goofed a little and got pwned, or it's a company of legendary incompetence (like Sony or CCP) just doing what they usually do.

MattAn24:

Susan Arendt:

MattAn24:

Still.. Having those settings there DOES send a hypocritical vibe, Susan.. Just sayin'.

I honestly don't see how. The information is there to help folks better connect with other members of the community, should they want to. It's entirely optional, there for you to use as a tool, nothing more. How are we hypocrites for reporting on a security issue that is affecting readers while simultaneously NOT demanding that readers provide us with the kind of info that was compromised? I really don't understand the thought process at work.

Okay, I feel like I have to ask this, then. How are my credit card details that I submitted to The Escapist for Publisher's Club being stored? Where do those details go?

That'd be a question for Virgil, our IT guy. I'm just a word person. But under the circumstances, it's a perfectly reasonable question. That said, that wasn't what your post calling us "hypocritical" brought up - entirely optional information like occupation and Skype ID was. (Of course, your credit card info is entirely optional, too, but there's no real reason to split that particular hair.)

Scott Bullock:

MattAn24:

Susan Arendt:

I honestly don't see how. The information is there to help folks better connect with other members of the community, should they want to. It's entirely optional, there for you to use as a tool, nothing more. How are we hypocrites for reporting on a security issue that is affecting readers while simultaneously NOT demanding that readers provide us with the kind of info that was compromised? I really don't understand the thought process at work.

Okay, I feel like I have to ask this, then. How are my credit card details that I submitted to The Escapist for Publisher's Club being stored? Where do those details go?

You know, considering your apparent paranoia concerning the Escapist's security, I figured you'd be the last person to want information on how it's all protected publicly posted.

Also, nobody is mad at Sony for having the information, they're pissed because they didn't protect it vehemently enough. Nobody has hacked the Escapist and stolen credit info, so calling us hypocrites is just using the word wrong.

Common sense would dictate a PM would be sufficient, I merely made the query, and as Susan then stated, perfectly reasonable question to ask.

I apologize for sounding "paranoid", but I happened to notice a previous post and commented on that. It is a fair assumption to make, whether it be optional information or not.

Within a world that is very tech-central, Twitter and Facebook being linked to logging in to various other accounts around the internet, it's a rather legitimate query to make, after the consistent bashing of Sony.. I'm not sure if you've noticed other posters questioning the biased, sensationalist nature of recent news article titles.. Several people have questioned the choices of the editorial team, considering many other gaming news sites have reported actual information instead of copypasta with a side salad of comment.

The reporting on Kotaku Australia has not only earned Mr. Mark Serrels awards, but he among the other staff there don't sensationalize their news articles. The actually speak to and interview relevant people.

I have to correct you on the sand selling comment. Its much easier to do.
Step 1: Dye the sand
Step 2: Wait for gullible tourists (they are everywhere)
Step 3: Convince them that it's a worthwhile purchase.
Step 4: ????
Step 5: PROFIT!

Sony don't even have a step one yet.

To be honest, If anyone is buying sand, it's Dubai.

Ah, I see that has been said already.

I wonder if developers who worked on downloadable PSN games will move their products to Steam or XBLA instead.

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

They also need to give people a way to pay for publishers club without putting their credit card details online.

Shamus Young:

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

The PSN stuff was intended to be kept secret, and wasn't. The stuff here at the Escapist is there for the express purpose of being shared. You're worried a hacker might infiltrate the Escapist supercomputers and steal your AIM handle? Dude, they can get that by just visiting your profile.

And yet the email we give you must be legit, so there's no option to just give a fake one if you don't want to take the chance it could be discovered.

OutrageousEmu:

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

They also need to give people a way to pay for publishers club without putting their credit card details online.

PayPal.

Irridium:
Oh yeah, thats right. Those capcom games use the always online DRM.

From a PC gamer to any PS3 owner who can't play their legally bought games... welcome to our world. And I totally know how your feeling.

Do we even have that any more? I know Ubisoft took it off Conviction and AC2, and I thought they were getting rid of the perma-connection stuff for all future games too?

OT: Funnily enough, doing something with Kevin Butler might not be a bad way to help ease the public reaction a little.

Woodsey:

Irridium:
Oh yeah, thats right. Those capcom games use the always online DRM.

From a PC gamer to any PS3 owner who can't play their legally bought games... welcome to our world. And I totally know how your feeling.

Do we even have that any more? I know Ubisoft took it off Conviction and AC2, and I thought they were getting rid of the perma-connection stuff for all future games too?

AC2 still needs to be connected every time you start it up, but doesn't need to be after that. Conviction may be the same. Which is still pretty damn stupid, but its not as bad. Kind of like a punch in the stomach isn't as bad as a punch in the balls.

And I think they are getting rid of it for future games, and sticking to the standard online check at install.

Although it sickens me that an online check at install has become the standard these days.

SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness:

saregos:

Wolfram01:
BSOD, Skyrim, Catherine. Nice choices lol... he must have a Dell.

Second one's Lair, actually. Same shot here: http://www.gamemunition.com/articles/10-most-overhyped-ps3-titles/ #3 (yeah, it's probably somewhere on escapist too but I'm lazy)

Ok, those retards at that site THINK MASS EFFECT IS AN XBOX 360 EXCLUSIVE??! i saw the PC version out in stores Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the xbox version.
OT: Nice comic again shamus! keep em comin'!

Technically, for quite a while, it was. ME was out on 360 almost 6 months before a PC version was implemented.

Keith K:
I expect the Escapist to remove all profile fields asking for personal information or risk being labelled blatantly hypocritical.

You don't need to know my Real name, Location, OCCUPATION?!, Country, Birth date (excuse me?), Gender, ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Skype, XBL/PSN/Steam/Wii/Xfire/Kongregate/Raptr, Twitter/Facebook/YouTube.. etc etc etc.

Don't even ask.

You're setting yourselves up for the same fall mi amigos.

And that's one reason I gave a little information as possible. I have not linked any of my outside accounts to the escapist. I come here to watch videos, read web-comics, and chat in the forums a little. No one needs access to or knowledge of my other accounts. And if I wanted anyone to know that kind of stuff, I'd tell them personally.

OT: Kinda funny if a little hyperbolic.

Is there anything Kevin Butler can't make funny?
Please be aware that I'm trying to make light of this situation because it really does suck.

Scott Bullock:

MattAn24:

Susan Arendt:

I honestly don't see how. The information is there to help folks better connect with other members of the community, should they want to. It's entirely optional, there for you to use as a tool, nothing more. How are we hypocrites for reporting on a security issue that is affecting readers while simultaneously NOT demanding that readers provide us with the kind of info that was compromised? I really don't understand the thought process at work.

Okay, I feel like I have to ask this, then. How are my credit card details that I submitted to The Escapist for Publisher's Club being stored? Where do those details go?

You know, considering your apparent paranoia concerning the Escapist's security, I figured you'd be the last person to want information on how it's all protected publicly posted.

Also, nobody is mad at Sony for having the information, they're pissed because they didn't protect it vehemently enough. Nobody has hacked the Escapist and stolen credit info, so calling us hypocrites is just using the word wrong.

Admittedly, I have not read this full conversation, but from this little bit of the comments, you are coming off far too defensive and insulting. And insults are the last, desperate stand of someone who has no argument and knows it.

And I'd like to point out that what you're quoting from MattAn24 came across as him trying to prove a point. I don't think he was actually asking for the information. Just trying to point out that complaining about Sony asking for the same information this site does comes off as hypocritical. Whether you think so or not. Will you willingly take the blame should someone hack the Escapist and steal all of our personal information? Will you admit that this site should have done better?

I, for one, am not mad at Sony over this. The only person I am angry at is the hacker. Saying that Sony didn't protect the information well enough after it has been stolen is a bad argument. Who is to say that they didn't have the single best system to protect our information out there, but this hacker was skilled, knowledgeable, and persistent? Who's to say that they aren't hacking Microsoft as we speak?

However, if I should find some information that proves that Sony was knowingly negligent (or just plain olde fashioned negligent) in their security, my opinion will change. But until that evidence comes to the surface, I'll just ignorantly believe that Sony is not at fault.

I think people not being able to play Bionic Commando 2 is the lesser of several evils right now..

Saltyk:

Scott Bullock:

MattAn24:

Okay, I feel like I have to ask this, then. How are my credit card details that I submitted to The Escapist for Publisher's Club being stored? Where do those details go?

You know, considering your apparent paranoia concerning the Escapist's security, I figured you'd be the last person to want information on how it's all protected publicly posted.

Also, nobody is mad at Sony for having the information, they're pissed because they didn't protect it vehemently enough. Nobody has hacked the Escapist and stolen credit info, so calling us hypocrites is just using the word wrong.

Admittedly, I have not read this full conversation, but from this little bit of the comments, you are coming off far too defensive and insulting. And insults are the last, desperate stand of someone who has no argument and knows it.

He insulted someone did he? Do tell me where in his post that was. He pointed out that it was silly to ask for the info requested to be posted in this thread, then he explained the position of people mad at sony.

Do you feel insulted that he didn't agree or that you didn't get a pat on the head? He might have been a little sarcastic like I just was, but insulting? Thats a rather arbitrary thing to say given that there was nothing degrading I can see in there.

There was a /facepalm in there, but I edited it out to protect your feelings. Seriously, cheer up. :P

I can only pray that Steam doesn't get hacked.

This reminds of a Youtube video i saw earlier making fun of it using the same jokes http://youtu.be/Cwn4R_GexLM

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