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Furthering my suspicion that Russ Pitts hates practically every single thing about the game industry, including the members of this site. | |
What I find funny (or alarming) is how directly the video game industry's history mimics that of animation; albeit far more accelerated. It started out odd and original (obviously), grew up with some truly timeless classics, crashed hard once when cheap commercial exploitation took over, grew out of that with new talent and tech, and is now so big that it cannot grow any further *except* into other mediums. The industry is so big now that it cannot sustain itself on anything that resembles niche' or quality productions (barring smaller/amateur developers who aren't yet part of the system), but rather shiny imitations of older productions. The industry is terrified of commercial failure in any respect, so it's afraid to do *anything* new, or take any initiative on its own despite the incredible resources at its disposal. Its so obsessed with economic profit (not just accounting profit; there is a difference) that a game breaking a million copies sold and turning a profit post-production costs is now considered "barely-acceptable". Gaming has become far too much of a business now to do much of anything meaningful (except to those too young to know any better). Even the remaining pioneers of yesterday have been reduced to bland, money-churning profit-engines (Bioware, Blizzard, id Software, many others); held by the leash of an even worse middleman (Activision, EA, Square-Enix). So, considering that, I take back my prediction of a market crash. The industry is too big to collapse yet. Shrink and recede, sure, but not collapse. The business suits are too smart to let that happen now. | |
*double post* I have no earthly clue how this happened. I had no errors when posting before. | |
Never say too big to fail. | |
I will refine my point then: Too big to crash, but not too big to fail slowly. Another possibility: We could be looking forward to a group of consumers who grew up getting ripped off but not knowing how badly; so they will be perfectly fine with paying 60 bucks (equivalent today) for a game with half the content of today's, and another 50 for the content that was ripped out at the end. But I'm hoping, praying, that tomorrow's gamers won't be that stupid. I was quite pleased when Kane and Lynch 2 tried that shit, and was lambasted for it.
I agree there; many of my friends didn't move onto the PS3 despite Sony's success with their phenomenal PS2. I do love how so much DLC comes with double-standards EULAs. If I bought the DLC for Borderlands on launch, I would have gotten 3 installs out of it total (on Steam). If I buy the GotY Edition (again on Steam), it comes bundled forever. So now it often doesn't pay to buy early or when the game first comes out. Of course, EA launched Project 10 Dollar as a means of encouraging the customer to buy early AND new. It's worth mentioning that the whole DLC racket only works when the developer kills the potential modding community off (with legalese). It's a bitter irony that many games sold well because of how moddable they were. Now the games are being sold to sell overpriced mods instead.
I've found it surprisingly easy to explain how they keep their core demographic so happy. It's why Call of Duty 4.x and its clones will continue to set sales records despite not budging an inch from the formula. It's why Zynga will remain wildly profitable even if they haven't put an ounce of creative or original thought into anything they produce. Popularity and hype keep these otherwise unremarkable titles afloat. I wonder how many of today's younger gamers will be pissing and moaning as uselessly (as I do now), 10 years from now? I wonder if they will realize that back when they were trolling the forums that some of us actually gave a damn about "meaningless shit" like consumers rights or accountability? | |
That's essentially what's scaring me away from the console market. It seems that most of the gamers who have taken in a current gen machine are more than willing to pay for everything they're asked to pay for: they are willing to pay anything from $5 to the full $60 for a game that they're not going to actually be able to get for months just because gamestop has them convinced that if they don't, that they will be "left out in the cold" which is total BS to anyone who's walked into a real store on a Tuesday; and don't even get me started on the trade in/used game prices but anyone who falls for that is not a savvy consumer; gamers seem to be willing to pay for whatever fee is laid down in front of them... hell MS was even able to increase the fee for xbl within the same console cycle; I sometimes feel like the only ps3 owner who is disgruntled over the loss of functions and the lack of additional functions (it's the psp all over again where future firmware will only be constantly updated to fend off hackers and not add functionality), and all those other things you mentioned being put into regular practice with little protest is worrying. I hate to be derogatory towards a group I am a part of but I'm afraid of the same thing: that the publishers, retailers, and platform developers will keep pushing the generosity and/or gullibility of gamers until we are paying $60 for a demo and an additional $60 (or more) for the rest of the game. I look at MvC3 which (if they continue to bump up the roster to the size of MvC2 at $5 a character, it) could cost another $100. While I'm just projecting there, $160 for a fighting game seems absurd. | |
Regarding this point, I'd say: Vote with your wallet. I'm a very happy GOG.com costumer, and I hope to remain so for the foreseeable future. Yes, I know - GOG.com is for classics, "The Witcher 2" being the exception (already pre-downloaded, BTW). There are games on Steam you won't find on GOG.com. But that's not the point here. The point is how fair is the deal I'm getting when I buy a game? If I don't like the deal, I don't care how much I love the game. One example - the Thief Series is my favorite, ever. I check the Thief 4 site almost daily, just to see what's new. However, when it comes out, I'll only buy it if I like the deal (esp. where DRM is concerned). As much as I love this series, as much as I am counting the days to a somewhat mytical date when Thief 4 will be released, my purchase is far from guaranteed. That will depend on the deal I'm offered. There are a lot of good games out there, and there are developers/publishers willing to give gamers a fair deal. I'll look for them, and give them my money. In the case of GOG.com, I've even bought a few games I already own, a) to save me from the hassle of patching/configuring them to run in Win7; and b) because, since I'm buying these games, I prefer to reward a company that is playing fair with me. I'd say this is the real power we have, notwithstanding internet pressure (blogs, facebook, twitter, etc). | |
I love you Russ, best read I had in a while. I totally have to agree with you, we're fucked but we have the power to change that! | |
Perhaps the industry should start looking at percentages of complaints to sales and react accordingly instead of trying to please the squeaky wheel minority? It's always the pissed off minority that get listened to and half of that crowd is often bitching for questionable reasons. I don't work in the industry so I don't really understand the whole beholden to the overlords thing that makes up the Developer to Publisher relationship, but perhaps it's time to right-size the industry? I'm actually still in awe that the bubble hasn't popped in the gaming industry the way it does for everything else, and I think the only reason for that is the indie companies seem to be a bloodletting force on the industry as a whole. They give behemoth companies that are too busy suing each other over IP an opportunity to pause and give statements like "Angry Birds made how much money? Well that's garbage, they shouldn't be allowed to do that. We can't compete with that business model." When expenses begin to top profits and companies start looking toward outside forces for the cause, it's more often than not their internal bloat that got them into the mess in the first place. Call it a critical mass if you will. The industry might not be there yet, and might never get there because the consumer still has a voracious appetite and disposable income to match, but I'd say it's pretty well established that the needle is in the yellow if not already in the red. Loved the article. However, at some point there has to be a voice of reason. If the publishers can't tell the difference between these two phrases: "You're a dick, you punched me in the face" we're in deeper shit than anyone can possibly imagine. | |
Nice sentiment. Hope it lasts! | |
Such sentiment, while rather true, is the antithesis of powerful business. It's entirely too easy to forget that the pursuit of wealth isn't the only valid motivation in life. The trick to holding production hostage has always been the bank. It starts as a loan, then it becomes an investment contract with stipulations and deadlines, and before you know it that game your firm was looking forward to making only scarcely resembles your original vision. | |
So, um... Got a solution? Preferably one that involves something we as gamers can do to help? | |
Anyone who signs a contract where their pay is based on an uncontrollable factor like metascore deserves what they get. I have no sympathy for people who are willing to sell their souls to play in the "big leagues." Oh and also the only reason Steam ever gets a dime from me is BECAUSE of gamecopyworld and piratebay. The fact that I have the power to prevent them from taking away the goods I paid for means I can purchase with confidence. | |
The issue with Gamestop isn't the fact that they sell used games, it's their methods with how they go about it. When you're buying used, the idea is that you're buying something that's not mint and that may be in worse condition, but that you're getting a deal with how much elss you're paying. That's not the case at Gamestop. Speaking as an employee there, we sell our used games are usually 2 or 5$ cheaper on a 60$ purchase, and frequently sell brand new unopened copies of games that came straight from the companies as used. If the game comes with a one time use code to unlock it's online mode, we MIGHT knock 15$ off of it to make up for it, but frequently the difference is still only 2$. When you come to trade a game in to us, we will give you 7$ and then turn around and sell it back to you for 40$. Now, obviously, there's going to be mark-up, the business has to make money, but the amount of mark-up is so obscene that it is never a good deal for you to sell to us. Ever. We will give you less money than everyone else in the world. You will make considerably more money selling your games to your friends, online, or to a non-franchised game store than you will ever get selling them to us at Gamestop, and those people will actually give you cash instead of store credit, which is all the more reason why you'd think we'd give you a decent deal. The huge markup, and the fact that people will buy used to save as little as 5$ (while frequently never actually bothering to check the price of the new game, so they don't even realize how little they're saving), is such a huge amount of money for Gamestop, that they will go out of their way and do everything within their power to discourage sale of new games, up to and including lying and claiming we don't have new copies when we do, and trying to sell you a used game or accessory which actually costs MORE than a new one. I am not kidding, it's not out of the ordinary to actually find a new item for cheaper than the used due to promotions that the publishers put out. It's not that Gamestop just sells used games that's the issue, it's that they go to such extreme measures to do so that they are actively at war with the companies that give them their product, and it's come to the point that the publishers and developers are finally fighting back, by doing everything they can to either discourage used sales, or by going digital and preventing them entirely. Also, for the record, if Gamestop did just lie down and die, people wouldn't be nearly as hurt by it as you'd expect, because only one, maybe two employees per Gamestop (only the manager and sometimes the assistant manager) actually get enough hours to make a living. Other than those two, all stores have too many employees and not enough hours, ensuring that nobody else working there actually gets a decent wage. At my store alone we have two employees who get 3 hours a week each. If they were to lose their jobs, they probably wouldn't give a shit. Nobody would really suffer from the loss of Gamestop except for the management who are responsible for turning it into a the cesspit that it is. If you want to buy and sell used, go for it, by all means, it's well within your right to do so, but for the love of God, don't do it at Gamestop. Buy from and sell to your friends, or from online stores, or smaller stores that aren't part of a big corporation, they'll give you considerably better deals, you'll be able to buy cheaper and get more from selling than you ever will by supporting Gamestop's sleazy tactics. | |
He's got to be sarcastic, because from where -I'm- sitting, we're a lot better off having reviews we can trust. Now, that may not be all that good for the Escapist staff getting to eat, but if you're really considering this pathway, the Escapist is inevitably going to wither and die, what with you becoming another IGN, and contributors like Shamus Young or Yahtzee would either be fired or walk away. The Escapist is as successful as it is because it has integrity and everyone knows it. | |
I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to bet that it is. It's kinda similar to a deal that's made over concerts, if it makes past a certain point, everyone gets paid, but if it doesn't sell well enough, only the venue (I think) gets paid. It's a sucky deal if you ask me, but such is life. OT- yeah it is fucked I suppose. I like the games that come out. Maybe I don't need such high class games, but I'm happy with my brown paste shooter games, but I really do enjoy those bright, fancy, amazing new games. And I like new IPs. But hey, if all they can make are brown shooters because those are all they can sell enough, I'll still buy 'em if they make 'em fun enough to play. And with Steam....I dunno. I never wanted to make endless copies of my game, only to be able to play them on whichever computer I so choose, and steam does that for me, and it does it well (except for crysis. boo securom hahaha). If you want to play lan with a friend and you can't because steam won't let you use your own copy, boohoo. If the games so cheap, buy another copy. Think of it as supporting a dev that needs the world to see what they can make. IMO | |
I use Valve as an example of it too. They're rolling in money like a pig in shit, and they do it by the oh-so-simple trick of not being arse holes. Also, new TW2 trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-hope-the-witcher/713860 So pissed I have an exam on launch day (and one two days after, and then two the Monday after that... sigh). | |
But I'm CONSTANTLY BEGGING LucasArts to redux X-Wing and TIE Fighter. I'd give them MONEY. Why do they hate my money so much? What's my money ever done to them? | |
Obviously I'm not smart enough to fully understand what he's trying to say. Well regardless of whether he was serious or not, I don't think I'm hurting the game industry. That'd be like saying Walmart went out of business because I bought too much of their stuff. And I certainly don't think the industry is 'fucked', that's just cynical thinking to me. | |
Yes, God forbid people wanting their games to be a little more complex. On topic - yes, it is pretty much everyones fault, however I have trouble understanding what this article tries to achieve. | |
The games industry is an industry and that's the most important bit of the whole story. | |
The industry needs another video game collapse to take the monopoly away from the big 3 publishers that own all developers that could compete with them. That'd give a chance for the dozens of developers to spring up to compete and take chances or make niche games without a massive risk or trying to water down every aspect of a game to make it more appealing to everyone so it'll make more money. the golden age of gaming in the 90's and early 2000's probably won't happen again, but all one can do is hope... and not spend money on crap. | |
This is so angrily opinionated that it's hard to take seriously. The Video game industry is doing just fine. If you don't want the same 3 games a year, DON' BUY THEM, and that'll lessen sales of those games overall if enough people do that instead of bitching about it. Simple. And no, unlike what this review said, there are PLENTY of new IP's, consumers just don't take a chance on them. How many of you went out and bough Radiant Historia? Little King's Story? 3D-Dot Game Heroes? Aquaria? Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg? Blur? I could go on and on about good/decently-fun new IP's that most people have ignored. | |
I am enjoying this article so much, keep up the good work, best laugh I had all week. | |
WHOA! Passive aggressive much? That was just to much whining for me to handle. I get this image of a downbeat Hollywood director complaining about publishers, audience, producers, studios and most of all actors. If that's how anyone truly feels about their work, I suggest finding a new career. More than one or two of the game devs I've met have a stick up their ass, deep, and think they know better than everyone else in their industry -- just like the Hollywood director that sprung to mind .... Blaming the consumer/gamer/audience is just childish and has no place in any art form. Nobody likes the whining pop-star that harps on about how his/her fans have betrayed him/her, and how they don't understand how the industry works and how nobody understands their new album -- you all get my drift. But perhaps that editorial was an imitation of said directors/artists? | |
I'm sorry ... but how again? Most of my purchases dd are from startups/small firms, or games from 7+ years ago. But if you like Russ, I'll pay you to send me hard copies if you think that will help the industry? And I don't touch steam for upcoming titles ... pack of rip-off merchants (Australia)... Nature of gaming has changed, yeah okay. Consoles might not be feasible in the future. Yeah, okay. But how exactly is this a "gamer's" problem? By your inference are you trying to suggest that every person on the planet who plays games on their iPhone or decides to check out GOG/steam for a classic from a bygone era is somehow devastating the industry? Gamners are no longer niche, they are universal ... If anything digital distribution could help in the long run to broaden demographics, re-define old stereotypes and create innovation in a market that you yourself say is starved of it. Whether this article was written in jest or anger, I cannot agree with any of it. Especially when written in such a callous manner. Would it be better if I could get the Battlefield 2 collection for 3 USD on Steam, or just complain when no store in Australia still stocks it? Don't know about you, but it would take a pretty impressive store to house every hard-copy produced game/expansion/etc in one inner-city locale. | |
Ouch...I actually feel guilty. (not sarcasm) | |
IM going to stick with my belefe that the industry is fucked because there are fue game that have more than 10hours of game play and the one that do get boring fast and that companeys are constantly trying to one up each other with graphics witch leave me and a fue of my frends going oooo and ahhh then walking away because we've played the dooms day type games befor and very fue thing are interesting these days so we end up going Back to the games we are fond of and dont bother with anything elce.(sorry for spelling sick of fighting with auto correct on iPad) | |
*Sips his tea" Well guess what life sucks for everyone. And it isn't going to get much better with us just sitting around. So if you want things changed raise your voice to be heard. Make them hear that we want. Abit in vain with the few with power ballsing things up but lets turn our guns on them. | |
Wow, that was the coolest sentiment that I've ever heard. Ya know, I was on the fence for a while as to whether or not I should buy The Witcher 2 but now I've made my decision. It doesn't even matter to me now if The Witcher 2 is a good game or not. These guys deserve my money just for having a philosophy that I can support so fully. CD Projekt is now alongside Ice-Pick Lodge, ACE Team, and (to a lesser extent) Double Fine. Thanks so much for sharing that image, I totally missed it in their trailer. | |
Wow... that was enormously unpleasent to read and made the author sound unbelievably passive-aggressive and mean-spirited.... so.... good job ? Serious add: | |
No, actually its bollocks. The gamer is not to blame in the slightest, the only party here that deserves blame is the publishers. They're the ones forcing though overt monetisation at the cost of artistic diversity, they're the ones in control, they decide what games get made, they decide what games to advertise heavily and how much funding projects get, they're the morons weighing us down with gears of war clones and MMO after MMO even though everyone is still playing WoW. Every single flaw and fault in the industry can be traced back at some point in the chain to a publisher. And what is a publisher anyway? a bunch of jerk managers and accountants who couldn't give a shit about gaming and just view gamers as cash cows... well they can all fuck right off. | |
Requesting a video of this. Please make one. | |
Why do I get the feeling that if a regular user typed this kind of thing out as a thread topic they would get suspended for posting a rant...? | |
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