Jimquisition: Defending Call of Duty

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Does anybody know the name of the song playing during the intro and credits? I didn't see its name mentioned anywhere.

On Topic though: I don't have a problem with COD as a game. But I just don't play live much because of those very vocal children, wich makes the game really not worth buying considering how the campaign isn't worth 60 dollars alone. I don't want anti-sematic drivel spouted at me every time I stab a guy.

Though I do have friends who are completely lovely people and play COD, though they agree with me about the screaming children.

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2:

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People went back and captured Osama? That's news.

....Not really, it happened several weeks ago. Also, "killed", not "captured".

But Jim said captured like 5 times. I trust him implicitly.

Can't keep it up. You really thought I was being serious. Really?

Yeah, I had a good chuckle at that, too. Jim must be responsible for his capture, because he's the ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS HE'S STILL ALIVE! What other explanation could there be?

BlacklightVirus:
"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare is a game which defined what a modern multiplayer shooter could be".

Wrong, that would be Team Fortress 2.

Jim is doing a great job of embarrassing himself. He didn't acknowledge any od the main reasons people tend to dislike COD.

Boring environments.
No innovative mechanics.
No teamwork

etc...

Wrong, that would be Team Fortress 2.

All Team fortress has introduced to this generation of shooters is providing lots of little transactions for things which don't enhance the game in a plausible way. If Team fortress was as influential as CoD, wouldn't every FPS game be a Cartoon-ish teamwork oriented affair with lots of silly hats? I'm not hating on team fortress, it would be nice if more games conformed to its ideals but im nt sure thats the case right now

Thank you God, for giving us Jim.

I don't know how this show can get any better.

EDIT: Oh yeah, thanks to you too Jim, for the whole Osama thing. Cheers!

This video and your last are definitely much better than your first 3 submissions. I like the more serious attitude that you've developed (still light-hearted, but it's not all over the place like before). Also, I enjoy that it's not a copy of EC (because they describe games from the point of a designer while you capture more of what the players see) but you still manage to show off your knowledge while not being a prat like Yahtzee.

Jimquisition got a lot better in a hurry. I was originally of the opinion that Jim should have done a weekly column or something instead, staying in the written media, but this proves me wrong. Good stuff.

Also, I agree with the general sentiment that it's not automatically shit because it's popular. Same goes for film and music, why not games?

could have done without the last 20 seconds...

Grow up.

Srdjan Tanaskovic:
Also here are some arguments COD have for hating it and thinking it ruined FPS

Linearity
Rechargeable health
More time spent on making the Multiplayer then Singeplayer
Makings games to brown and gloom
Limit weapons

Linearity in FPS games existed way, WAY before COD came along.
Halo
Quake, Medal of Honour, Counter-Strike, Doom, The original Team Fortress ect...
Halo.

OT: It's good to see someone defend CoD for a change. As long as it's good, I'll keep buying it.

Did he turn Kiwi during the pretentious bits? :o

Why do you hide all the GOOD arguments in the second half of the video Jim? I almost closed the episode halfway through and would have missed them!

So in the end some very good arguments were made which made me think a bit deeper about my distaste for CoD.

But I still dislike it.

1) The gameplay just doesn't appeal to me. I like the perk system, but I don't like the whole "you die in 2.5 hits" thing. To me, it feels like "whoever sees the other player first automatically wins".

2) I also don't like the whole modern warfare setting. It just....doesn't appeal to me. I like "out there" kinds of settings. Like TF2, or borderlands, or Mass Effect, or Vanquish or what-have-you. Those feel way more interesting to me. Not to mention I find real weaponry to be boring as well. I like my weapons to have something cool to them, rather than just being pieces of metal that go bang and kill things. Take Borderlands again for a sec. While technically, my "static law" is a magnum that shoots and kills things like a normal gun, it also makes giant lightning explosions. I find that automatically more cool than just plain old bullets.

And...That's all I can think of right now. Might be back later to add more.

tomany2:
Unfortunatly, Call Of Duty didn't start the "Unlocks with levels", that would be battlefield 2's doing. So i guess you could call Activision the copy cats.

Not even close. Hell, CoD:UO(the expansion to the first game. I know. Shockingly the series didn't start at CoD4) had mortars that you unlocked when you got 40 kills, reaching a certain rank. That was their first dive into rank based rewards.
CoD:UO came out in 2004, and BF2 came out in 2005.

I'm not at all saying that CoD started the rewards and what not, but they certainly didn't copy it from Battlefield 2.

I agree 100% with this video. It's a shame that I have to hide among my PC gaming friends that I play CoD on a regular basis on my PS3.

CoD is not ONLY populated by kids, it's just they they are THE LOUDEST of the users, so obviously, the first (and sometimes the only ones) you notice.

Hey, guys? Here's a solution. It's called muting mic. And in extreme cases of butthurt, there's this thing called blacklist (not sure about 360 there tho) where you can throw away usernames... and voila! all of their incoming PM's get automatically discarded!

Seriously, stop acting like you are better, you are not.

As a game, I don't think CoD is bad at all, it's just overrated. The problem I see with CoD is that it's approaching monopoly status. At this point, the release date of a game can literally be dominated by weather or not CoD is releasing a sequel that year.

CoD is like a sports franchise, and because of it, FPS's dominate the market. They've become the easiest and most profitable games to make, thus publishers and producers are more reluctant to back games outside of that genre.

A similar issue arises with Gears of War, there are loads of games that seem to default to 3rd person cover shooting in place of an original gameplay model.

Take Kane and Lynch or Army of Two for instance, two games that appear to have barely one original though under their belt, but were both released presumably on the grounds that they were kinda like GoW, meanwhile, talented people with great ides for games are stumped because they've never had dinner with Cliff B.

Have to agree with this episode, he brings up good points and actually talks some sense for once.

And yes I enjoy COD. And I'm not a 12 year old kid (Which is a stupid stereotype anyway since the invention of party chat - your lucky to have 1 person on the mic in public games anymore)

i am guilty of talking down to COD and its players.

but i don't regret it. i'm just a hater.

One thing I will agree on is that too many people automatically look down on CoD players. You constantly read stuff like "CoD is only for bro-gamers" etc.

On the other hand if you dislike CoD you often just get shoe-horned into the 'haters' category.

I really enjoyed MW but I stopped buying CoD games after they ruined MW2's multiplayer with IWNET and started re-hashing scenes from MW for the single player. But really it's the multiplayer aspect that ruined everything for me.

Another reason I didn't buy BLOPS was because I started seeing how Activision is starting down the whole DLC/micro transaction route which is not something I want to help nurture.
In fact I wish less people would mindlessly buy the games and then after the purchase complain about DLC prices etc.

If you like the game and don't mind what Activision is doing with DLC and MP then fine, go ahead and spend you dough on it, though.

Wow, I actually liked this episode.

I had intended to not watch another Jimquisition video again, but I clicked this one due to curiosity over the subject matter. Much better than the first 2, in my opinion.

On a somewhat related note (sort of): posting the entire (alleged) synopsis for MW3 online!? Really, are people that desperate they'd go to the lengths of reading a (likely completely fabricated) rundown of the storyline?

My biggest issue with the series is that it is pretty similar. I'm on PC, and MW2's lack of dedicated servers kept me from buying it. That problem was resolved for Black Ops so I bought it, but not before asking some MW2 players what differences there were between the two. They had a hard time coming up with any.

That problem is easily resolved through not buying every version. Less easily solved is the fact that at launch on PC, Black Ops was COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE. My fancy gaming comp could run the single-player with only a little bit of lag if I reduced the settings to make the game look considerably worse than COD 4. The multiplayer was getting about 0.5 FPS on min settings on every server. Meanwhile, the 4-year-old hardware running in the Xbox looked and ran great. The problem was resolved after several WEEKS and I could play my $60 game, but if the devs could please, you know, RUN THE GAME once or twice despite the fact that it is a port, I'm sure all us PC player's would appreciate it.

Lastly, Nazi Zombies. I have no problem with it. I's a fun game mode that adds an element of co-op to a game that is otherwise mostly about going it alone. My issue isn't with the game mode itself, but with many of the players that I talk to. They all say that Nazi Zombies is amazing and some play it more than the normal multiplayer. Then I mention that it's fun, but I prefer the L4D series. The great majority of players (I have talked to) respond that L4D is shit and NZ is way better, despite the fact that they have never played L4D and I have played both. And the fact that NZ is a bonus game while L4D is a full $50 game made by effing VALVE (who they have occasionally heard of). And the fact that L4D has more than one type of zombie each with it's own strategy for killing. And the fact that L4D has a versus mode. etc. etc. etc. I realize that I shouldn't be insulting people for their choice of game, but it frustrates me when they insist that a game series I thoroughly enjoy is shitty while knowing nothing about it.

There Jim, you asked for reasoned complaints about the game, and I made some. I still enjoy the COD series and I'm glad it exists, even if for no other reason than showing those outside the gaming community that games are a force to be reckoned with.

AceAngel:
I hope many people who are saying "He tries too hard" do realize his way of speaking, heaving breathing, and sporadic panting are because he is overweight, right?

When I was kid, and chubby, I had a hard time breathing easily during long conversations and such, let alone wear any Tuxedo or even try to act infront of an audience, so please people, use your head for a moment or two.

I think this guy is right on.

Who Dares Wins:
This episode appealed to me more than any before. There was some overacting (the artist) and your valid arguments could be taken as invalid because you represent your opposition in an unfair manner, but other than that, not many complaints. Get rid of that, stop the self-praise (I know it's a joke but some people don't get jokes and they might see you as a self entitled prick) calm down and speak with a calm tone (most of the episode was like this and it was good) and you have a nice and a reasonable show on The Escapist.

Oh and great intro song.

Perhaps people are taking him the wrong way as a cultural difference. British humor is far more scathing than what we accept in North America. Look at the difference between the British and North American versions of 'The Weakest Link' for instance. I feel like maybe the audience isn't reading him as he intends? Idk just a thought.

COD is bad because it isn't TF2.

Srdjan Tanaskovic:
Jim just remember

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good *looks at Twilight*

Well come on now, a lot of the time, things get popular for a reason. Nothing ever becomes popular without some merit- wait a moment.

*Looks at Twilight again*

....I see your point....

Cod is a gd set of games, up until black opps. The point where you had to go out of your way and go on F.A.G.s just to find out what the hell was going on in the story just ruined it for me.

"Wheres the commentary on the stark nature of video games?"

That would be the COD4 campaign. It explored technological rationality, modernism and post-modernismin the way the individual is distanced from war reflecting are consumption of war as it happens.

It also challenges the narrative and gaming expectations of a mythological "supersoldier",
as your charchter dies experiencing the fallout (if you'll excuse the pun) of modern warfare.

People are equally (if not more) criticalal of the shallow nature of cinema, this isn't a trend only apparent in computer games.

EDIT: Jim addresses the narrative sophistication of COD4.

I still have some problems with this series right now. Obviously this is a more "controversial" episode, and I do think you are getting better at this, but there are still some greivances I have;

Your "self-made narcissist" image doesn't really help your credibility or your general image. I know that's sort of the schtick you're going for, but at least tone it down (where the "The President thanks God...for me!" thing came from, I really don't know) to a tolerable level. We've already got a lovable-narcissist wacko here, at least show some originality in it.

Another thing I found odd about this video is that you set up this whole "Pompous Artsy-Fartsy Asshole" target to base your arguments off of and yet you never even address his points. Seriously, the weird, fluffy, Mad Hatter crazy guy came in for, what, two scenes? And both times you completely ignored his arguments, however fallacious they may be (and the guy in itself is an ad homeniem, but whatever). You simply presented that guy as if we're supposed to hate the guy, but instead we end up disliking you because you're mocking people who very well may have a point, but instead you chose to grossly misrepresent them and presented a generalization. At least take his statements as a jumping off point for your arguments.

But, more on topic; See, the thing is, you've only been citing CoD4 as standards of online play and/or narrative. Now the CoD series have become extremely glorified. Seriously, if you look at the relatively tame CoD4 campaign, and compare it to the huge 'splosion-fest, conspiracy riddled Black Ops campaign, CoD4, while still pretty overblown, is much more subtle and well-crafted. I have nothing but respect for CoD4, though Modern Warfare 2 went to loopy-ville. Now it's all about making explosions after explosions with setpiece after setpiece. While that's perfectly fine to an extent, it's just been so overwhelming to see a pretty awesome series dissolve into yet another holiday blockbuster. Modern Warfare 3 seems to be straying further from the roots that you've detailed CoD4 as, as it's not just another 'splosion fest. It's not a commentary anymore, it's just another shooter.

I don't dislike the people behind Call of Duty, they may perfectly enjoy the series and if so more power to them. It is Activision that I cannot stand. I am already in a personal boycott against them until they clean up their acts, so I refuse to buy any game they have published, developed, or are affiliated with. I dislike how they run their franchises to the ground, I dislike how they handle their studios, and I dislike how the CEO handles everything else. However, if someone wants to go buy their games, go for it, I have no qualms with it. Enjoy the games, and I am perfectly sincere in saying that.

I agree almost fully with this. I've never gotten into Cod myself, but I've never understood the whole "u play cod ur so lame lol" thing. The only thing that I personally dislike about Call of Duty is that it's basically "run around the map and if you happen stumble upon an enemy, shoot him", whereas in, say, Team Fortress 2, you like, y'know, work as a Team with your other teammates. I'm not saying there can't be teamwork in Cod, it's just that there isn't much of it.

I like CoD. It's okay. I don't think the narratives is very "well paced" though, as a general rule.

Well personally I'd rather have all the perks unlocked because I'm not playing fucking WoW. I like being able to play with all the different weapon perks without investing a huge amount of my time into unlocking each. Believe it or not I don't have enough time or find enough good connections to make these unlocks worth my while. Also I like to play most multiplayer games locally and that means that my friend who plays with me can't use any of the weapons besides the starting ones. It's just dickish. Also, I wholeheartedly agree about the map packs. They should be AT LEAST half the price. Most DLC I get is around 6-8 whereas CoD puts it at 12. Go fuck yourselves.

Also, Black Ops had a well-paced story? Could've fooled me. I thought it was singularly the most shit story for any video game ever, but I guess that's just me.

I have really started to look forward to this show each week. Keep up the good work you are giving us gold!

sumanoskae:
As a game, I don't think CoD is bad at all, it's just overrated. The problem I see with CoD is that it's approaching monopoly status. At this point, the release date of a game can literally be dominated by weather or not CoD is releasing a sequel that year.

CoD is like a sports franchise, and because of it, FPS's dominate the market. They've become the easiest and most profitable games to make, thus publishers and producers are more reluctant to back games outside of that genre.

A similar issue arises with Gears of War, there are loads of games that seem to default to 3rd person cover shooting in place of an original gameplay model.

Take Kane and Lynch or Army of Two for instance, two games that appear to have barely one original though under their belt, but were both released presumably on the grounds that they were kinda like GoW, meanwhile, talented people with great ides for games are stumped because they've never had dinner with Cliff B.

Hmmm you did make a good point on CoD's market impact, but then again so did Jim.

Off topic though: Also time to admit my little guilty pleasure. I rather liked Army of Two, both of them in fact. I liked how there was a shooter where having a partner mattered and I couldn't just solo everything. Plus I've always had an awesome relationship with my little brother, and Army of Two was the only shooter at the time where it felt like the two main characters actually cared and relied upon eachother. Just my two cents.

Trig0n:
Does anybody know the name of the song playing during the intro and credits? I didn't see its name mentioned anywhere.

It's exactly where you'd expect it to be... on the first page of the credits.

Intro music: Drill Queen
Backing Track: It's off of FFIX

*blink* *blink*

In other news, Jim Sterling apparently has a white-lipstick wearing yellow-bowlered homosexual alter ego.

Pardon my while I curl up in a corner and twitch for a moment.

(twitch)

The commentary is actually fairly decent in this one. It does kind of make me want to suggest an experiment, though: make two versions of the next video, and cut out everything that's just Sterling himself speaking directly to the camera out of one (which is to say, everything that isn't really commentary on the subject.) Look at both versions, and see if anything is lost in the shorter version.

Just a thought.

great video and good points. Bottom line real gamers play what we like because we like it, not because someone else said it's ok for you to like it. Sadly the hardcore gamer community is in some ways more ignorant and bigger sheep than those COD players we all hate. If you ever feel like you have to justify that you like COD to anyone for whatever reason, then that person probably forgot what gaming is supposed to be about. Have fun and enjoy, that's all that matters. Even if your favorite website editors don't agree.

while all good points

CoD is still an FPS, thus automatically black-listed from my library.

though i was unaware that liking CoD was some how a bad thing, that's :/ rather sad actually

LMFO, "defending" Call of Duty? It doesn't NEED defending, that's what an army of millions of frat boys and 13 year old tards are for. I know it's somehow a cardinal sin for the rest of us to disagree with them and demand variety, but again, it doesn't need defending.

Once again, another pointless episode of Jimquisition. Please stop this show, it's never been relevant.

Godammit Jim, I love you more with every jab you take at this community of twatdonkeys.

Seriously its like he's trolling, only he makes good points, which makes said twatdonkeys even more infuriated.

In all seriousness though, people dislike being told what they enjoy is shit. This is why the elitists in the Escapist community (and other sites I won't mention) like to flock around and form circle-jerks around what is accepted as their favorite titles. Likewise, when they are told to dislike something by the hivemind, they will line up to defecate on said thing without thought.

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