Jimquisition: Too Cool To Be Cool

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Littaly:
People take Duke Nukem seriously? God, I hope not O.o

Apparently it happens, Alot.

This is the first time I laughed out loud at a Jimquisition. I hope the trend continues.

Jerram Fahey:
Am I alone here? I never felt Duke was intended to be taken seriously, but more of a tribute to/parody of 80s action heroes. It's not that he should be idolised or considered "cool" in any way, but simply be thoroughly entertaining with his completely over-the-top badassery. It's the same kind of appeal as making a villain a playable character - you get to have fun blowing crap up without any sense of duty.

Duke Nukem doesn't have nearly enough homoerotic subtext to be a parody of 80s action heroes.

I've been a fairly harsh critic of Jim Sterling in the past. I'll likely continue to be so, all things considered, and I'm still not very fond of his format.

But on this particular point, I must say I agree 100%.

There is nothing about DNF which has led me to believe Gearbox knows what they're doing
Press conferences at strip clubs, "capture the babe" with butt-smacking to boot, idolising a character which was never intended to be perceived as anything but a satirical exaggeration of male chauvinist tropes...

I do think it's problematic, and I find it rather sad that anyone could seriously believe this approach is relevant in this day and age.

And now here's Jim Sterling giggling at Jon St John's Duke one liners:

While I agree for the most part with his points, mostly towards Sonic, I'm not really sure what he thinks of Duke Nukem a little.

Funny episode, they are getting better and better.
Nice rip on all the Trolls, laughed out loud a bunch of times.
I love all the people who want you gone, I was wondering why when I went to the stable today they were all out of High Horses.
Keep improving, because it's showing.
Looking forward to the next one.

I'm actually quite a fan of this show by now.

While the points brought up aren't as good as in Extra Credits and MovieBob the complete lack of pretentiousness in this show makes it quite refreshing (not saying EC and MB are very pretentious, but there's definitely some of that there and watching it too much can get tiring.)

He can't compete with Zero Punctuation but overall I think he's filling a good niche on this site.

In response to one of the Facebook comments:

I'm not generally offended by him, I'm just not amused by him either. It's strange, because I was reading something I thought was funny (about how vapid Final Fantasy has become), and it was spot on with a good tone. Then I saw his pic at the bottom and realized it was him on Destructoid.

I think Sterling is or at least can be a good writer, and if his videos weren't such grating self-aggrandizement - even if it is with tongue planted firmly in cheek - I'd enjoy them quite a bit more. Contrast this with Zero Punctuation: it sounds like Yahtzee has a big head, except for, well, the dozens of times that he makes self-deprecating remarks.

In short, I seldom feel his content is wrong or bad. But the tone of his obviously fake persona is so grating, I can't seem to enjoy it. The Rosa Parks comment? It's not funny, it dragged on far too long, and it sounds like it's too honestly denigrating her work. That's a horrible trio.

Jim you are starting to grow on me (and thanks for getting rid of that terrible yellow hat you had on the last episode). I think I'll watch your show more often. But here is something I don't get...why...do people do things Ironically? Or like stuff ironically? I don't get that at all.

Also, am I the only person who is totally not impressed by Duke Nukem and probably won't get it? (This is coming from a guy that totally Bulletstorm and freaking loved it).

This was actually a pretty good video, normally I'm neutral with his past few ones, but I liked this one.

I agree with what he has to say about DNF, I've been wondering about it for a bit since the game is going to be coming out soon. Maybe I'm a little nervous since that game has been in production hell for years, and as much as I like Gearbox, I'm wondering if they know that he's supposed to be a parody of all the macho man tropes.

I also wonder if it's still gonna be just as funny as it was back then, I don't know, and that's worrisome to me. Duke isn't supposed to be taken seriously, but I wonder if that's going to be in conflict with the player a lot during the game.

Duke is comedy without the writers needing to resort to any self-depreciation; that would actually make it less entertaining.

Duke should be played straight, because the humor comes from just crossing the line of what is acceptable and good taste.

Wrong is fun, within a certain narrow bandwidth.

The best thing is, we all play a part in the joke, like ALWAYS BET ON DUKE.

Wait, he actually thinks that Duke Nukem is played straight? That he's meant to be taken seriously? Duke Nukem is a PARODY, you can tell that from the goddamn trailer.

Oh, and check out my CAPTCHA:
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While you make good points and you manage to touch certain sensitive spots in gaming lately, your humor is kinda off.

If I were you, I'd focus on arguments rather than humor.

2xDouble:
Indeed, Jim. What kind of arrogant cock would say "Thank God for me"?

Meta.

The guy who says it in the ironic hipster way?

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2xDouble:
Indeed, Jim. What kind of arrogant cock would say "Thank God for me"?

Meta.

The guy who says it in the ironic hipster way?

Jim himself is living proof that saying it "ironically" doesn't automatically make it any more endearing.

I thought it was alright. I think this latest incarnation of Duke is supposed to be somewhat ironic and self-depricating, as compared to the original. Whether or not it actually pulls this off though, we'll have to wait and see?

ShadowKatt:

Espsychologist:
Jim fails at funny again.

I agree whole heartedly. I believe there was even a poll that asked the escapist if they wanted to keep this feature, and the highest vote was "NO".

And here we are, so poll = petition, and no one takes internet petitions seriously.

You know, if you watch his show, you're saying to the Escapist that you want to see more... it's the same thing if you watch shitty movie, play shitty video games or go to a bad restaurant...

A petition means nothing if there's no intention behind it :)

Stabby Joe:
And now here's Jim Sterling giggling at Jon St John's Duke one liners:

Ok, that's a weird contrast :)

Haha, excellent video. I love the fact that you've actually had to spell out your approach to the viewers here so they can get it, and yet you still manage to keep it in context.

dunnace:
Did you play Bulletstorm? It was almost anticipating the return of Duke and parodied the fuck out of the "too cool to be cool" character. Many dismiss Greyson as simply a "generic bad-ass space marine" but frankly in the games he's the only person who thinks he is cool. Everyone else thinks he's the dick he definitely is, and rather than being the god of his world he often causes catastrophic fuck ups based on his rash and indefensible behaviour. Bulletstorm, despite being a comedy at heart, is also quite a strong piece of character satire.

And more than that, it has a shockingly effective character arc for Greyson, as he slowly comes to realize just how badly he fucked up, and how many lives he's ruined. He actually grows as a character, as do the two supporting ones.

I actually really enjoy Bulletstorm's story UNIRONICALLY, because while it does have a lot of campy fun...it also has actual character, actual character growth, and I wasn't expecting that at all.

Funny enough, when I was a kid, in my hometown everyone treated Duke as an idol - the amount of graffiti concerning him was huge, some signs are still left.

I really like this episode. He made his point in a clear and concise way and his humor was actually quite funny this time. I admit, I was squeamish about this series at first, but now I like it.

It would be cool to have a game with a Duke like character at your side, only he's completely incompetent while you did all the work. Like a big trouble in little china videogame where your wang and Jack Burton is your npc partner

Oh that was great love the bit when he talks about himself laughed so hard keep them up jim love the show

I guess the irony of Duke runs too deep for these tykes. Good point on Sonic, though.

I think it's a bit too early to tell what Duke Nukem will be from just the trailers. That said, this episode was well made and clearly argued, so good work with that.

I'm actually starting to really like this series.

Keep it up Jim

In a way I agree, but on the other hand I am terrified of change in any shape or form. Child of the 90s at work.

Still, I think Duke Nukem IS funny... probably just unintentionally so, which might be where he thinks the problem lies, but there's a certain charm to playing a bad played out joke straight. Watch a movie like Airplane, you'll see what I mean. If you wink at the camera, per say, it may take away from the comedy.

That was badical. This series is getting better, but it needs higher production values. Please, Escapist, send the good man a better camera.

beeing cool and beeing arrogant... that 's two things...

dunnace:
Did you play Bulletstorm? It was almost anticipating the return of Duke and parodied the fuck out of the "too cool to be cool" character. Many dismiss Greyson as simply a "generic bad-ass space marine" but frankly in the games he's the only person who thinks he is cool. Everyone else thinks he's the dick he definitely is, and rather than being the god of his world he often causes catastrophic fuck ups based on his rash and indefensible behaviour. Bulletstorm, despite being a comedy at heart, is also quite a strong piece of character satire.

As much as the gameplay of Bulletstorm was most definitely not made for me (it bored me, I watched my roommate play through), the story and characterization was actually really well done at times. And yes, Greyson was definitely a send up of all those "shoot first ask questions later" types. Showing how much of an asshole these archetypes would really probably be (yeah crashing my ship into their ship sounds like a pretty good idea).

Best comedic moment of the game was being stuck in a room with a bomb, but wait! We've found a way out. Going through some vents, going through some vents, you know I really think we'll make it out of this oh we're back in the room with the bomb. Fuck, how did that happen. Great moment. Great comedic timing, which is hard to do in a game in the middle of gameplay.

In the end though, the Duke works for me too. I like how it doesn't take time to wink to the camera. We're getting a glimpse into the kinda world where a guy like Duke would be a national hero. And it's a completely absurd world. This character isn't taken seriously in the games, but the games aren't obvious about that fact.

I good analogy would be the Evil Dead movies. Ash started out too cool for school, and only by the time we got to Army of Darkness was the series very obviously poking fun at his character. And I enjoy both approaches.

Today was the first time I lol'd at Jimquisition.

Also, it's good to see someone saying something negative about Duke Nukem. I didn't get why people liked Duke in the 90's, let alone now.

Looking for character depth and undertones in Duke Nukem.lol. Couldn't miss the point harder if he tried. What's next? Trying to improve a chess game with a backstory on the feud between the Kings? Pimping Tetris with emotional tension between the differently shaped blocks? Some things are worth for what they are doing in a straight and simple fashion, complicating and convoluting them just detracts from it.

Keava:
Whiile i could agree on the Sonic point, i don't really see Duke as Jim describes him. I mean, ever since Duke Nukem franchise started it was a very obvious satire and DN3D probably was the pinncale of it. It was absurd, over the top, it was the bad-assery on the level of action movies featuring the 'manly-man' like Stallone or Van Damme creations.

Sure, you might say, times moved forward and the perception surely has changed, but a quick look at recent action flicks says "Hell no!". We still get the same type of movies in cinemas, the same type of ubermench that gets the chick, blows stuff up and saves the world, and that's why Duke fits in it. I don't see seriousness in the franchise at all, and satire does not need a giant, flashing clue in terms "OH LOOK IM FAILING TO BE FUNNY" to be satire.

i completely agree with this post Duke is never meant to be a serious game and ur not meant to actually like him as a person which is shown by his obvious douche baggery. there is no seriousness in this seriess. and thats where the comedy derives.

theres always a thing about jokes within christmas crackers. they're not meant to be funny, as that splits people who find them funny adn those that don't. but because their intentionally unfunny everybody is agaisnt the joke and comes together. thats where i think duke nukem comes in where all in it together in dukes unfunniness.

Oh, wow Jim, don't worry. No one is taking you seriously.

How to make an episode of Jimquisition:
1. Pick a random topic
2. Invent a side to that topic contrary to your opinion
3. Make fun of your audience for not liking your show
4. Now make fun of that contrary opinion even though it barely exists
5. Attempt to be ironic in a self-referential way... AGAIN
6. Rinse, Repeat for next week.

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People actually take Jim's whole podium shouting narcissistic persona seriously?

Really?

Thats just fucking scary.

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