The Big Picture: Going Green: Part I

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I completely forgot about the weakness to the color yellow. Bruce Lee would have a field day.

Hm I predict a movie about this:
"Attack of The Fanboys!"
"Fear their incessant jabber about how important their action figures are, how gripping and realistic their fan based stories are. FEAR THEM!
No? anyone? I mean we've seen worse movies out there.

Ah well. It's always nice to hear summaries of the various comic book heroes. Makes me glad I never got to read more than...five-ten issues that I'd find at random shops while on car trips with my parents.

And I really have to ask (though I honestly doubt I'll get an answer)

Bob, you have "The Big Picture", "Escape To The Movies", the "Intermission" column,
*Inhale*
Watch tons of movies, have an occasional say on "Extra Consideration",
*Inhale*
read comics (unsure if you still do but you have done that's for sure), you have the "Game Over-thinker"
*Inhale*
and you say you read all (or well, most) of the comments on...well, you (might be more precise to say the ones about you). And possibly more stuff I haven't even caught onto yet
*Exhale*

My question is:
...How do you find time to sleep? Or for that manner, think.
If I did half of those things...My brain would probably overload, or just give up and go to sleep.

Keep up the good work though.

-V

To be fair although the complainers did sound REALLY bitchy it didn't really make sense for Hal Jordan to violently murder people he'd worked with for years even given what had happened to him. Yeah they did explain it (in a way that only a superhero comic can get away with) in the end but that was ten years later.

Parallax?

As an aside, H.E.A.T. in my city stands for "Help Eliminate Auto Theft"

dex-dex:

HankMan:

dex-dex:
holy freaky deaky dude!
and I thought I encountered some hard core fanboys/girls!

Ain't no fanboys like right wing fanboys dex.

and there is a reason why I don't live in America.

... on a side note... American's each owe $545,000 to the rest of the world.... come form the right wing and left wing fanboys... "Go team retard"

Denmarkian:
Parallax?

As an aside, H.E.A.T. in my city stands for "Help Eliminate Auto Theft"

That was a nonsensical plot devise to explain away character flaws/arc. I read a bunch of Green Lantern stories and I still can't figure out exactly what it is.

I liked Kyle Rayner a lot better. Since he was an artist, he could come up with more interesting things than just a giant fist. Half the fun was seeing what new construct he could come up with.

Hal Jordan was always an alpha male asshole. I don't know why nerds want to read about the guys that beat them up in high school.

Heh, this one actually got resolved pretty much before I even got into comics...

I love me some Green Lantern. Rebirth -> Sinestro Corps War -> the start of Blackest Night was an awesome run, in both Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps.

The way Geoff Johns managed to work Hal's change to Parallax in Rebirth was nothing short of masterful. Looking forward to the next episode. The whole colour yellow thing was explained well in there too. Great comics.

And I thought Valve fanboys were batshit insane. I'm not a Green Lantern fan, nor a huge DC fan, but I have to admit that I really like the idea of Green Lantern becoming Parallax. DC knows how to make a villain.

Heh, sounds kinda like MovieBob's reaction to Revenge of the Fallen. Fanboy pissing and moaning. Thank you Bob, could not have put it better myself.

HankMan:
Thanks for shedding some

light

on this subject.

There is no hiding from you puns is there? D:

I like it better when MovieBob DOESN'T do jokes. Because, quite frankly, he's not that funny.

Anyway, Green Lantern. I knew people hated how Hal Jordan became so evil and killed so many people when his hometown got destroyed, but the fact that there was an active MOVEMENT to undo it all?! DAMN!

HankMan:
Thanks for shedding some

light

on this subject.

I was hoping you'd do something with limelight, limes being green and all...
Come on, you can do this!

HankMan:
Thanks for shedding some

light

on this subject.

You and your puns...Always with the puns.

OT: And to think. All that pissing and moaning and taking out ads is dwarfed to the comparison of 2 million people going onto a fansite and bitching about it. At least they had the bells to get off their asses when bitching and moaning.

SomeBritishDude:
Ok, HEAT may explain why Hal was brought back at all. Cause seriously, i hate that guy, Kyle is so much more interesting.

Yeah Hal Jordan never appealed to me, I loved Green Arrow though. Plus I was first introduced to Kyle as the Green Lantern. The character was young, fallible, and believable to me.

I'm not really into comics (living in Europe, and a part where you don't really see such stuff), but all this does sound really interesting.
I'd love to read some of this stuff, though.
Looking forward to the second episode.

Great video, the ending made me curious enough to investigate what happened.

All I'll say is I can't wait until next week.

klasbo:

HankMan:
Thanks for shedding some

light

on this subject.

I was hoping you'd do something with limelight, limes being green and all...
Come on, you can do this!

Why would I want to make a joke about limelight?
MovieBob made it quite clear that the Green Lantern is no fruit!

Owlslayer:
I'm not really into comics (living in Europe, and a part where you don't really see such stuff), but all this does sound really interesting.
I'd love to read some of this stuff, though.
Looking forward to the second episode.

Same here! I've never had any interest in comics as such but all this stuff about continuity and fanboyism is mighty interesting. :)

I've only sporadically read comics, and the only one with parallax in it had him and thanos destroying and re-creating planets over and over, like two children having a tug-war over a toy. I think I put that comic down a little dumber than when I picked it up.

The idea of parallax seems cool though. A villain with an actual arc seems to be rare in comics.

I'm actually surprised the writers at DC were able to fit the ROYGBIV thing into all those different lanterns. They caught a lucky break since you already had Sinestro (yellow), and the Star Saphires (Violet). All they had to do was fill in the remaining colors and tie it into Hal's origin story (really.) and they were set with very little continuity gaffs.

But if we want to talk about continuity complexity, we should be talking about Alan Scott. What Bob put in the video on that one image really was the short version of Alan Scott's history. He's the kind of character the Continuity Alarm was made for.

Yeah, but was the Paralax arc any good?

i guess that would be like :
superman destroying earth,
or
batman killing anybody who walks the streets at night,
or
garfield doing sports,
or
ninja turtles ... with automatic-guns... instead of martial-arts
or
the female terminator

You see? THAT's how you make people hungry for more bob, not with story arcs. But I'll stop beating that dead horse (for now).

Green lantern (and generally DC comics, heck comics at all) never interested me that much. I only read through the wiki article in order to be prepared for the upcoming movie.

While I do remember several generations of Green Lanterns, I don't remember the issue you brought up. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the second part of your video about this super hero.

Oh and btw I enjoy your video much more than the article, not only because it's easier to consume the information, but because wiki articles tend to block the view to core issues in order to maintain an objective position.

lralowicz:
No. It's not trolling try.

I must be coming from wrong part of the world (Europe) because each time there
is a "Comics are ... (something)" episode my:

I...
DON'T...
CARE...

sign pops up.
I'm not criticising material or something. It's just a statement of lack of interest.
Anyone feels the same or... It is I who needs help? :)
BTW... Funny enough I still enjoy watching the show even if topic doesn't float my boat.

Also...
I must give one thing to comic books. I don't know what authors are smoking but I want it too.

You're not alone. I'm a Canadian who loves comics, but never got into DC or Marvel superheroes. Or superheroes in general unless they were being written by Warren Ellis. But I was a teenager in the 90s when the North American superhero comics industry was about selling tits and ass to 30-year-old fanboys with annual crossover events and multiple variant covers. Didn't really appeal to me.

Luckily there was an alternative for more goth/supernatural comics fans like me: DC's Vertigo imprint, which had its best stuff in the 90s: Gaiman's Sandman, Ellis' Transmetropolitan, Morrison's Invisibles, and Ennis' Hellblazer and Preacher.

I still like these episodes though--they give me a lot of insight into what I missed all those years ago.

Wow. I had no idea that was Kyle's origin. Hal was evil for almost 10 years?

They'd better keep that shit out of the movie continuity is all I can say. PLEASE, we don't need all this "comics are weird" baggage in the more accessible medium.

Looking forward to Part 2.

Kudos Bob, I thought that was your best written episode yet.

Perfect pacing! I am excited for next week!

I prefer Bob talking about comic books than to him cutting down other people's opinions in movies.
These are always classy and fun to watch :)

Falseprophet:

lralowicz:
No. It's not trolling try.

I must be coming from wrong part of the world (Europe) because each time there
is a "Comics are ... (something)" episode my:

I...
DON'T...
CARE...

sign pops up.
(...)

You're not alone. I'm a Canadian who loves comics, but never got into DC or Marvel superheroes. Or superheroes in general unless they were being written by Warren Ellis. But I was a teenager in the 90s when the North American superhero comics industry was about selling tits and ass to 30-year-old fanboys with annual crossover events and multiple variant covers. Didn't really appeal to me.

Luckily there was an alternative for more goth/supernatural comics fans like me: DC's Vertigo imprint, which had its best stuff in the 90s: Gaiman's Sandman, Ellis' Transmetropolitan, Morrison's Invisibles, and Ennis' Hellblazer and Preacher.

I still like these episodes though--they give me a lot of insight into what I missed all those years ago.

Yeah... I was not exposed to American comics industry till I was about 18. I am raised on European comics. Like Yans, Thorgal or Funky Koval. And they are not really about super-heroes. More of a regular people in not so regular worlds (last post apocalyptic human city, Vikings at middle-ages or distant future space opera). They don't have such a crazy followers going bananas over every little detail (I'm sorry... I meant sensible middle aged people deeply interested in comics art medium :) ). Maybe because they are a short series of books so there is no place for "experts" on what, why, when and who. :)

BTW... All comic enthusiasts. If anyone can pick them up in English they are worth checking out.

Jas0913:
I would love to know how HEAT got started considering that there was no internet at the time.

I would assume that they met eachother and networked trhough comic book stores and newspaper editorials/from the readers-things. You'd be surprised wha tpeople can do without the internet- they're simply too lazy now or consider the internet too efficient.

MovieBob:
Snip

In defence of the Hal Jordan Green Lantern fanboys, what made the Green Arrow/Green Lantern comics so interesting was their completely opposite views on how to deal with any given situation, even though their couldn't be a larger power gap between "bow with boxing glove" and "magic super ring that can twist the fabric of space time". Taking away that convesrtative outlook actually cut down on the diversity of the DC universe. Political diversity, NOT ethnic diversty mind you, but less diversity none the less. DC had plenty of more liberal leaning heros (including superman) so why DC felt it needed to make "hip" the companies third most popular character is a questionable at best. Was it worth 10 YEARS of demonstrations against it, no, but all I am saying is, DC shouldn't of done it in the first place.

Of course, that is 90's comics in a nutshell...

Ah now that takes me back. Always prefered Kyle on Principle. I just prefered the underdog versus the experienced bad guys, and while I could understand the anger at Hal's treatment, I think a lot of it came from just the denial that a superhero could suffer a mental breakdown. HEAT was often the vocal minority as sales jumped with Kyle (perhaps the only reason he hung around.) I'd hesitate to say they won, as given the new versus nostalgic nature of comics it was inedivible that Hal would come back at some point regardless of HEAT's actions.

I don't know if you'll cover it in part 2, but it does seem remiss to forget Hal's tenure as the Spectre for several of those 10 years. Still, a lot of the weirder crap coming up.

Now if you want a challenge, two words: The Flash. Straightening out that mess might take a mini-series from you.

I lol'ed about the convoluted comic story continuity stuff. So true. These new superhero movies rekindled an interest in comic stories for me, so I've been poking around on the internet to see what the actual stories were. I've already spent a bunch of hours on Wikipedia reading plot synopses for various comics and crossovers and I was quickly overwhelmed with the dearth of tangled information. I would indeed pause every few minutes for a "wtf." Not just at some of the retcons and divergent series continuities, but also at the pure goofiness of some of the plots and characters.

I soon remembered part of why I gave up on comic books:
too much shit to keep up with.

Every month there'd be some new crossover, where in order to keep up with the story of one comic series, you'd have to buy books from 5 other series you probably didn't otherwise care about. They were obviously a big marketing scheme, but ultimately it made me lose interest in all involved parties. I think I stopped reading X-Men during the Phalanx Covenant, and I stopped reading stuff from the Image universe a few years later because of the Extreme Destroyer one... or something.

For a while after that I went to Manga, but those were really hard to keep up with since I had to special order them and often missed out on several books in a series. Plus they were expensive as crap.

I seriously have to wait until next week until I get to hear the good part?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! </vader>

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