The Big Picture: Junk Drawer Revisited

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well said, bob,well said patecurly about the DC reboot/reimaging/rewahter any truly medium savvy comic nerd knows that big comic changes are almost impossibly rare (like maybe one in a billion stays permanent)and that things tend to go back to the way they were before more or less

TheSchaef:

theguiltyone:
This is my feeling exactly. As much as I wish Nathan all the success in the world, I love him just the way he is.

Besides, him becoming a big time movie actor means less opportunity to stalk him at conventions. SO. That settles that.

Frankly, I think Castle is subtly his most cheeseball role yet, and that's with the two ginned-up supermen included. Never mind the thinly-veiled references to Firefly, never mind the poker games with cameos by real-life mystery novelists. I thought it was clever and amusing when they had the books mentioned on the show actually written and published. But they one-upped my amusement by having Fillion GO TO BOOK SIGNINGS for books written by his character.

And now they have a movie coming out. Based on a book. Based on a fictional character in a TV show. And then on the SHOW, they had the actual actress playing Nikki Heat in the actual movie, make a guest star appearance as a fictional actress playing in a fictional film version of the same novel. ABC has singlehandedly redefined the term "meta".

Oh, and I think they solve murders sometimes, too. I don't really notice.

Okay, I saw those episodes about the fake movie without realizing they were making an actual movie starring that same actress (based on real books purportedly written by a fictional character), so that's awesome, but I don't think I'd give ABC the "crown of Meta" just for that. After all, they're competing with the likes of Supernatural, where in one particular episode you have the two principle actors getting cast into an alternate dimension wherein they are actors on a set filming a television show called Supernatural, so they're on a television show pretending to be themselves on the set of the television show that they're already on, while playing the role of themselves as if they were their respective characters from the show and not themselves, tasked with pretending to be themselves playing their characters.

I thought it was hysterical enough when they tackled the subject of tie-in novels and fan-fiction by having the Winchesters discover that a prophet has turned his visions about their lives into a series of novels with a "dedicated cult following" (the episode where they're tricked into attending a "Supernatural convention", complete with people LARPing as the Winchesters and complaining about plot holes, was just brilliant), or when the trickster god trapped them in "TV land" (they really skewered Grey's Anatomy and CSI: Miami, heh), but I was pretty much doubled over laughing the entire way through that episode.

Meta humor is awesome.

TheSchaef:

theguiltyone:
This is my feeling exactly. As much as I wish Nathan all the success in the world, I love him just the way he is.

Besides, him becoming a big time movie actor means less opportunity to stalk him at conventions. SO. That settles that.

Frankly, I think Castle is subtly his most cheeseball role yet, and that's with the two ginned-up supermen included. Never mind the thinly-veiled references to Firefly, never mind the poker games with cameos by real-life mystery novelists. I thought it was clever and amusing when they had the books mentioned on the show actually written and published. But they one-upped my amusement by having Fillion GO TO BOOK SIGNINGS for books written by his character.

And now they have a movie coming out. Based on a book. Based on a fictional character in a TV show. And then on the SHOW, they had the actual actress playing Nikki Heat in the actual movie, make a guest star appearance as a fictional actress playing in a fictional film version of the same novel. ABC has singlehandedly redefined the term "meta".

Oh, and I think they solve murders sometimes, too. I don't really notice.

I can't find anything on there being an actual movie coming out. Where did you hear that?

thank you for the nathan fillion thing. yes hes not bad, but ppl need to just stop with the "he should be in roll x because he is awesome!!!" the bigwigs will make the decisons on casting regardless.

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

Case in point: Sonic SatAM.

And somebody needs to watch more AT4W.

~Tom<3

I have to admit, what we've seen of Mario 3D has kind of killed my enthusiasm for it. The game seems to be based entirely on nostalgia, and if the hoards of people shouting "SWEET CHRIST ON A STICK HE HAS A FUCKING TANUKI SUIT" are any indication, it's working.

Uber Waddles:

wowthisishard:
I'd say Green Lantern's odds at a sequel might be marginally better than you think because unlike something like Avatar, a lot of the money Green Lantern generates is going to be in merchandise (toys, clothes, etc.) rather than just movie ticket/dvd and blu-ray sales. Of course, I haven't seen the movie and am a little disappointed over how I'm hearing it's turning out, so I may just be underestimating how bad the response to it is out of hope for a good Green Lantern movie.

Lets also not forget that unlike Avatar, big companies backed this movie.

Coke products and many resteraunts that sell their product are having promotions for the movie - Avatar did not. If you dont believe me, drop by your local Subway sometime soon.

They will, more than likely, make a sequel. It had a backing, and while it didnt hit well with online critics, its still selling relatively well, and people liked it. The rule of thumb is this - if you know the lore, it was bad. If you didnt know the lore, it wasnt half bad.

Also, DNF was a bad game? Once again, says who? A few critics didnt like it. Oh well. The shooting stood up solidly, the puzzles were fun and engaging. I can guarentee this game would be praised if you took the same game and changed the name and main character, and tweaked the controls a bit.

You did that... and it would be a slightly more vulgar and funny Bulletstorm.

Glad to see I'm not the only one here who liked Duke Nukem Forever. I myself didn't expect it to be a be-all, end-all great game. But my expectations for it weren't exactly sky-high either. You want some perspective? I'll give you some perspective:

Not to pull age on you, Bob, but I've got at least a good 10-year lead on you lifewise, so I think that allows for a little more life experience. Anyway, when Duke Nukem 3D came out, I was 25; old enough to know better, but still immature enough where that game's crude sense of humor still appealed to me. It was also around that time in the 90's that was really the golden age of FPS games (the 90's didn't totally suck). Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Dark Forces, Rise of the Triad, all of them came out at this time. All of them were fun and none of them were hampered by realism or the dark and gritty attitude that the genre has become since. And DN3D was the perfect example of that. Is it a relic? Yes. But I wouldn't have it any other way.

Considering how you ripped on modern FPS games on your "Worst Person" GameOverthinker segment, I would have expected you to have been a little more kinder to DNF. In my opinion, both DNF and Bulletstorm have been like breaths of fresh air. I tend to regard DNF the same way that a zoologist would marvel at the sight of a living Dodo bird or American Passenger Pigeon in this modern age: something long thought extinct that you would never have thought you'd ever see again. I had a feeling that when it finally came out, that the younger whippersnappers who've been raised on Halo and Call of Duty and Medal of Honor would probably shrug their shoulders and wonder what all the fuss was about. And as it turned out, I was right. But for me and others in my age bracket, this was pretty much the game we had been expecting since 1997. And I don't consider that to be a bad thing. The game is what 3D Realms promised us initially 14 years ago before they fell into the trap of one-upping themselves with the latest graphics engine. If today's gamers find fault with its now-antiquated game design, that's their problem, not the game's.

As for its humor? Well, I found myself laughing out loud at points in the game. While I'm very educated and well-spoken, I'm not so self-righteous as to think I'm above adolescent humor. There's still a part of me that's very much a quintessential guy: I like going to strip clubs and listening to Howard Stern every now and then, and it's that part that DNF appealed to.

As for Nathan Fillion, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The guy's a good actor, but just because he starred in what turned out to be the original Star Trek of the 00's (a genre series that struggled in the ratings, was unfairly cancelled and achieved cult status because of it) doesn't mean he has to be in EVERYTHING. He's doing fine like you said. And if he does get a role in anything else, more than likely it'll be for the exact reasons you gave.

As for Green Lantern, haven't seen it yet. I've talked to a few people I know though who said they really liked it and who are at least familiar with the mythos. So I can't believe that it's totally wretched. Still, I think you're right that it probably won't get a sequel, and you're spot-on with how these things tend to go (although I hope that won't be the case for any sequels for TRON: Legacy).

I heard that Duke Nukem Forever was great and that only pretentious critics with unreasonable expectations and a desperate need to chill out and have a little fun, were unable to overlook it's flaws.
It wouldn't be the first time the critics were totally wrong. For the record, Battlefield Earth is one of my favorite movies and has nothing to do with Scientology, Uncharted is a pile of steaming blah, I liked both of the Transformers movies, and Arkham Asylum is good, but not nearly as great as everyone thinks because their expectations were so low.
That being said, I agree with almost everything else Movie Bob says. It just goes to show, it really does take all sorts.
Also, the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has awful graphics, boring, tedious gameplay, a magic system replete with scads of useless, slow moving direct-damage spells, a ridiculous, labyrinthine plot and some of the worst artificial intelligence I've seen since the advent of 3D graphics.

From the picture I was expecting an episode on Fraggle Rock.
I am disappoint.

About Duke Nukem Forever:
Believe me, FPS multiplayers got better, when they started requiring players to play with actual skill and teamwork, rather than just memorizing where all the weapon spawns were.

You're last junk drawer was awesome and one of my favorites.
This one I felt you were being kinda generally preachy and scolding everyone.

That's what random musings sometimes are I guess.

I hate deadpool. I feel like he's a holdover from Youngblood and all that crap. For someone who worked in a comic shop in the late 90's... it... it just was an awful time all around.

Also, Youngblood is not like duke, because Bloodblood the bloodinator and all hits compatriots are not being ironic or anything of the sort.

Which makes it sadder.

Perspective here means not being disappointed by a cult game 12 years in the making, but being utterly enraptured when another crusty old franchise reintroduces a fucking racoon outfit. I wouldn't mind, but functionally Duke and Mario are both from a bigone age in which female characters (or "chicks") are just something to be rescued from weird monsters, so to be praising one whilst railing against the other is a bit short sighted. Mario is in many ways more primitive than Duke, which at least is somewhat self aware and developed in character (the health bar, being referred to as an "ego bar" etc.)

He has been so grouchy ever since Green Lantern came out... :/

I <3 you Bob...

Kind of refreshing to come to a gaming website where the feature writers and staff writers realize that Duke Nukem wasn't likely to be any good in the first place.

bojac6:
I can't find anything on there being an actual movie coming out. Where did you hear that?

I can't discount the possibility that it was a publicity stunt but there is this announcement on richardcastle.net:
http://www.richardcastle.net/news/production-begins-heat-wave

Which followed on from this trailer that showed at the previous Comic-Con:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmkkEuNMde0

Now it's entirely possible that the IRL stuff was just to promote a Laura Prepon guest spot on the show, but that seems a little TOO meta after publishing the books mentioned on the show and then showing this trailer.

That 'stern' face matched Bob's 'Just stop it.' extremely well. It's like he hired an alternate reality British Moviebob just to do that line.

I was legitimately excited for a new Duke Nukem and continue to be so, as my thought has always been that even if DNF sucked, it would mean someone could start an actually good gime now that it's no longer clogging the franchise pipe. Maybe one that actually gets satire. But more importantly one who gets frantic multiple weapon FPS gameplay. And if that doesn't come to light, Serious Sam 3 isn't going to suck (It... it isn't, right?)

Big Trouble in Little China = my favorite movie of all time (hence my handle).
A little strange you just threw that in there. Not that I'm bitching, just was odd.
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penguindude42:
And somebody needs to watch more AT4W.

~Tom<3

Nobody needs to watch that horrid show.

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

Are you familiar with a reviewer named linkara? He reviews comics and one of his main targets are the usual rob liefeld type comics. Stuff like youngblood was a failed attempt at grittiness that was initially acheived by frank miller and alan moore and for most people the art style was considered heavily laced with cheesecake and extremely out of synch with human physiology. As a kid who grew up in the 90s I can see how if you liked comics it was a pretty rough decade but if you were into stuff like cartoons there's no better decade and i'd stand by that forever!

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

This is the Internet: it never fails to surprise you with the opinions of others. I can see no redeeming qualities in Youngblood. The art is bad, the writing is actually worse. Most comic fans see Liefeld and Image tripe like Youngblood as a symbol of everything that was wrong with 90s comics.

But well, to each his or her own, I guess.

Thank you Bob. THANK YOU for finally putting it plainly about Nathan Fillion. The rate things were going, I was certain we'd see a Nathan Fillion should be cast as Duke Nukem in "My Little Pony Friendship Saves The World From The Covenant with Duke's Help: The Movie" petition any day now.

I LOVE Nathan Fillion in the roles he's been in. Honestly, Castle is one of the best shows on tv. Firefly was great. But it is like you said... the dude is 40 years old. It's a little late for him to be jumping on the video game character/action film bandwagon. He would not make a good Superman. He would not make a good Nathan Drake. He would not make a good Enzio in an Assassin's Creed movie. Well, maybe he might, but it isn't going to happen. He's past that point in his career I think, and I'm pretty confident that the dude is just glad to be getting steady work and fan-love.

I too went through the "Bruce Campbell is the most awesomest actor ever" phase, and in a way I still am. I still devotedly watch the straight to dvd garbage he puts out (or on Sci Fi channel) but the reality is, Bruce will never be an A-list actor, and frankly I've come to terms with that.

We as a community of nerds need to get past this sort of thing.

Uh bob... technically Heath Ledger's last will and testament would be "imaginarium of dr. Parnassus" Since he sort of died during filming and all.

Also Screw the Dark Knight. I liked it but Batman Begins is my favorite Super Hero movie so really I am excited for the Dark Knight Rises because I don't hold the Dark Knight on a pedistel. My dad doesn't either. Course his favorite super hero movie is the original Superman...

Also Hell YES I've seen Big Trouble in Little China, :3 It's Spoony's favorite movie and because I like seeing people's favorite movies to assess what it shows about their personality... I saw it TWICE :3

Yeah, The Dark Knight was lightning in a bottle. I don't expect The Dark Knight Rises to be better than it, I just expect it to be better than Batman Begins (which was also an awesome movie).

Littaly:

As for The Dark Knight Rises, I think you mentioned it in your last "junk drawer", and as much as it's probably not going to be as monumental as The Dark Knight, there is still one part of your argument I have a hard time getting. How does Heath Ledger dieing affect how good the movie is?

I think that when 1 of the actors dies, people have a hard time criticising anything they do. It makes it nearly impossible to judge their movies on the movie's merit alone without getting fan backlash for criticising the work of the dead. This principle tends to make people ignore anything they do badly and just behave as if their last film was a gift from a god.

Edit:

lokiduck:
Uh bob... technically Heath Ledger's last will and testament would be "imaginarium of dr. Parnassus" Since he sort of died during filming and all.

The Dark Knight was the last film he completed. So people often say it was his last film, even though he did work on another movie after it.

Jack Burton is a far better macho man parody than Duke ever was. It is funnier if the big strong hero is obviously a bufoon and everyone knows but him.

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

EDIT: Sonovabitch must pay.

penguindude42:

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

Case in point: Sonic SatAM.

And somebody needs to watch more AT4W.

~Tom<3

Are you agreeing with me by giving the Sonic example?

What the fudge is AT4W?

Swifteye:

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

Are you familiar with a reviewer named linkara? He reviews comics and one of his main targets are the usual rob liefeld type comics. Stuff like youngblood was a failed attempt at grittiness that was initially acheived by frank miller and alan moore and for most people the art style was considered heavily laced with cheesecake and extremely out of synch with human physiology. As a kid who grew up in the 90s I can see how if you liked comics it was a pretty rough decade but if you were into stuff like cartoons there's no better decade and i'd stand by that forever!

*clears throat* Yes ive heard of Linkara someone posted a link to his review of Youngblood#1...Well lets just say i was burning with white-hot rage through most of the video. His picks and pokes are juvenile at worst and unprofessional at best. He expects everything to be realistic and meticulousness detailed, it was 1992 for pity's sakes give some credit where its due. I would love to personally debate that Linkara till one of us broke down.

Techniqually Frank & Alan already invented the darker side of comics. I agree with what Bob said with reguards that it wasnt the art it was the story, and it wasnt that it was dark it was just very well thought out. Cheesecake? Out of sync with human physiology? What are we talking physics or Comics? Its a comic, set in a fictional world, it doesnt have to be realistic. If thats the case someone should have told DC a loooong time ago. What is this fascination with realism? Your reading a comic book to escape realism, you leave your logical side out of it.

As for the 80's vs 90's cartoon debate...Well its tough for me to say. I was born in mid 80's, my parents recorded hours upon hours of cartoons when I was a toddler and I was raised on that, and living in europe in the late 80's they recieved the shows later than the us so i watched them all over again. The 80's gave birth to some of the most awesome and inspired toons but they where only a handful.

The 90's I remembered very well. Waking up early to watch toons. The 90's didnt have as many "awe inspireing" toons as the 80's but its in the 90's their where many that where quite good. So many shows where produced in the 90's but very few where bad. So in the 80's you had a handful of Iconic shows but not much else, the 90's you didnt have as many but you had more variety and almost guaranteed to see a good show.

Primus1985:

Swifteye:

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

Are you familiar with a reviewer named linkara? He reviews comics and one of his main targets are the usual rob liefeld type comics. Stuff like youngblood was a failed attempt at grittiness that was initially acheived by frank miller and alan moore and for most people the art style was considered heavily laced with cheesecake and extremely out of synch with human physiology. As a kid who grew up in the 90s I can see how if you liked comics it was a pretty rough decade but if you were into stuff like cartoons there's no better decade and i'd stand by that forever!

*clears throat* Yes ive heard of Linkara someone posted a link to his review of Youngblood#1...Well lets just say i was burning with white-hot rage through most of the video. His picks and pokes are juvenile at worst and unprofessional at best. He expects everything to be realistic and meticulousness detailed, it was 1992 for pity's sakes give some credit where its due. I would love to personally debate that Linkara till one of us broke down.

Techniqually Frank & Alan already invented the darker side of comics. I agree with what Bob said with reguards that it wasnt the art it was the story, and it wasnt that it was dark it was just very well thought out. Cheesecake? Out of sync with human physiology? What are we talking physics or Comics? Its a comic, set in a fictional world, it doesnt have to be realistic. If thats the case someone should have told DC a loooong time ago. What is this fascination with realism? Your reading a comic book to escape realism, you leave your logical side out of it.

As for the 80's vs 90's cartoon debate...Well its tough for me to say. I was born in mid 80's, my parents recorded hours upon hours of cartoons when I was a toddler and I was raised on that, and living in europe in the late 80's they recieved the shows later than the us so i watched them all over again. The 80's gave birth to some of the most awesome and inspired toons but they where only a handful.

The 90's I remembered very well. Waking up early to watch toons. The 90's didnt have as many "awe inspireing" toons as the 80's but its in the 90's their where many that where quite good. So many shows where produced in the 90's but very few where bad. So in the 80's you had a handful of Iconic shows but not much else, the 90's you didnt have as many but you had more variety and almost guaranteed to see a good show.

Hmm. When I think I 80s cartoons I think of all those merchandising shows but that's probably because almost all of them have been revived on the hub for some reason (I don't need to mention the certain four legged animal that made quite the comeback recently do I?) Personally I'm not one of those people who really get bent up when it comes to stylistic choices and personally I kinda like the variety even if it does seem silly and unlike linkara I kinda don't mind seeing a sexy woman or a muscly man every now and again(that sounds weird in my head) but I've been friends with a lot of artist and they just whine and whine about those things and linkara is a comic artist and a comic nerd so it would be his MO to make such a complaint.

Personally. The realism is a bit taxing in any medium. Say what you will but I'll always choose quirky talking animals over human characters any day. too me it just makes writing more flexible(and it kinda makes character design more fun).

Screw you, Larry Laffer was awesome. Love for Sail is probably the greatest adventure game of all time (or at least tied with Monkey 3).

Green Lantern should have cost around $100 mill at most. I liked it well enough, but in no way should it have been that expensive. Gotta drop most of the blame on the Direct (and the writers).

Duke is Duke. If you went in expecting anything else, meh. It is kind of shallow to just whine about the character. The game has issues, two weapons, regenerating health, etc. But like it or not, but Duke has mass appeal outside the artsy-fartsy "Games should be art!!" crowd. Just like how the Expendables made a hell of a lot more money than some people wanted it to.

DC Reboot. Dunno. I'd reboot all that crazy Batman dying crap out myself.

Ah, Youngblood, one of the best examples for everything that was wrong about comics during the Dark Age. I still think one of the best slaps in the face to it was Alan Moore's complete retooling of Supreme (also a Leifeld creation) that slammed everything that was excessive, childish, and stupid about the industry during that time. See also, Kingdom Come

CronoT:
I saw Green lantern on Saturday, and I enjoyed it. It didn't try to be anything other than what it is: A film adaptation of a comic book. If the first Superman movie had come out this year, you'd probably be calling it tripe as well.

They took the Alien Squid out of Watchmen, but I didn't see you complaining about that too much. They of course had to take it out, because they couldn't lay the proper foundation for it. I find it very odd that you lambasted The King's Speech; and rightly so, for being blatant Oscar bait, but them hated on this film for being nothing more than a good popcorn flick.

Not every game can be Super Mario Bros. 3 or Tetris. Not every movie can be Citizen Kane or Ben-Hur.

Just because it rides the mediocrity gradient isn't an excuse for something to be bad. That means the production was lazy, and the higher ups threw money at something they never understood in the first place. People use "its just a popcorn flick" as an excuse to avoid saying the movie is shit. 90% of the movies made now is crap, no one should want to even associate themselves with crap.

teebeeohh:
nobody thought that duke nukem would be good, just not this bad.
also: not every game can be made better by putting the protagonist in animal costumes, the same way not every game is better by giving it a gritty reboot.

Sadly, people thought this game was going to be good. I should know, I had to hear about it practically every day for a year.

Now that it's out...I feel embarrassed to be a gamer to be honest...

I am not really sure how I feel about this episode. Sure it makes a lot of great points, a lot which I agree with, but something about the delivery of the content anymore. Perhaps it is because I watch too much of Moviebob's work on the Escapist that I am reading so much into this, but the past few weeks I've felt a little scorned after I am done watching.

Why the temper Moviebob? Is everything okay? :/

Primus1985:
WTF what the hell is wrong with Youngblood? I own many Youngblood comics including the first five issues. I like the style, the grittiness, and compared to other titles of the time was a bit more mature.

Must be his whole "The 90's sucked" mindset. I'll grant you not a lot of good came out of the 90's but not everything that was from that decade sucked.

Its because Rob liefield can't draw feet, i'm fairly sure thats it...

oh and the whole damn book was generic as hell. 90% of image comics back catalouge was tripe.

I pretty much gave up on superhero comics in the 90's, unless alan moore was writing them (the 10% of image comics that wasn't shit)

perhaps it was a teenager thing but I ended up reading nothing but vertigo and small press stuff from companies like slave labour graphics (johnny the homicidal maniac)

Smackerlacker:
I heard that Duke Nukem Forever was great and that only pretentious critics with unreasonable expectations and a desperate need to chill out and have a little fun, were unable to overlook it's flaws.
It wouldn't be the first time the critics were totally wrong. For the record, Battlefield Earth is one of my favorite movies and has nothing to do with Scientology, Uncharted is a pile of steaming blah, I liked both of the Transformers movies, and Arkham Asylum is good, but not nearly as great as everyone thinks because their expectations were so low.
That being said, I agree with almost everything else Movie Bob says. It just goes to show, it really does take all sorts.
Also, the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has awful graphics, boring, tedious gameplay, a magic system replete with scads of useless, slow moving direct-damage spells, a ridiculous, labyrinthine plot and some of the worst artificial intelligence I've seen since the advent of 3D graphics.

You lost the respect of anything sentient, including dogs able to open doors, with the battlefield earth.

In NO way was that film any good at all.

It looked terrible, it had gaping plot holes a mile wide, it has EVERYTHING to do with scientology, the film was basically an insult to anyone who watched it.
Not really difficult when the source material is l ron hubbard, a talentless hack of epic proportions who would have been long forgotten if not for the brain washed scientology cultists going out and buying his books in bulk.

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