The Big Picture: Hollywood History 101 Supplemental: The Code

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Hollywood History 101 Supplemental: The Code

The Hays Code made movies more "moral".

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Hhhhhm Well cant say that home country of england any better with censorship.

I actually want to see what a lot of those older movies were all about.

How many of them are public domain now? Does anyone know where I can get them on the cheap if they're not?

I find it interesting that Hollywood has essentially come full circle and it hasn't even been a hundred years.

Hooray for stupid people perpetuating the puritanical notion of denying everything that makes people human being able to appear in the media. No wonder we're all so messed up. Good episode Bob.

God, FINALLY. I mean don't get me wrong, this episode was really interesting (probably the best of the "History of Movies" set) but still....This has been going on for a looooooong time. I'm ready to get back into complicated comic continuity and stuff about how nerds ruling the planet.

EDIT: Also, FUCK. THESE. FUCKING. ADS. Seriously, is anyone else seeing this? "El Shaddai"? Incredible amounts of lag? A medieval knight wearing blue jeans to your left? A LOT. OF FUCKING. LAG? Anyone?

bob should do more of these Something's History 101 videos, i really enjoyed them

very good series i learned alot and i am now taking more intrest in the history of films thanks bob

Ooh, more learning! Thanks for teaching us that, Bob. Can't wait for next week.

Hi Bob.

First of all thanks for replying to my previous post.

Considering the censorship scene in Hollywood, have you watched This Film Is not Yet Rated by Kirby Dick?

Do you think there's a parallel relationship between censorship & profit in terms of what Hollywood is trying to mooch money from a wider, larger demographic as possible?

I absolutely loved this series. Reminded me of being in my 10th grade history course. The teacher for that class was a real stand up guy; always quick with a good, informative story. And the history of pop culture isn't something they teach you a lot about in school, so this was all news to me. Actually, I wish they had taught more about this stuff. Especially with regards to this last installment about censorship, it's hard to deny the relevance of this type of information to our day-to-day lives. It makes me grateful to live in this age of information, where broader cultural influences help me to keep my mind open and creative, and it reminds me that the ultimate cure for bigotry is knowledge.

Poor Fatty Arbuckle...........

vxicepickxv:
I actually want to see what a lot of those older movies were all about.

How many of them are public domain now? Does anyone know where I can get them on the cheap if they're not?

If they're not local to rent or on Netflix, you may likely find them at your local library.

sax & violins. love it.

I gotta say, I really enjoyed these videos. Not only educational, but they provided new insight and perspective into issues I already knew about. I've got to say, between his rants on social and political issues to recapping the history from everything to Green Lantern to Hollywood, he really has an engaging and thought provoking series here.

I kinda wish he did leave more recommendations of supplemental material. For example, The Celluloid Closet or This Film is Not Yet rated.

zingobingo4:
sax & violins. love it.

Holy shit I just got that. Gah, I was scratching my head when those images popped up. I feel like a dumb.

Very much enjoyed this series =)

If it is one thing people in the U.S. of A. have shown, its that when they lose a battle, they'll overreact to the next one. When the frightening religious zealots lost the censorship battle, they went after interracial marriage. And when they lost that, they went after something else. Persistent if nothing else, like roaches.

Funny how things change from one jurisdiction to another. In Brazil and Portugal, I think in Italy too, it's the Departament of Justice also the gov who says what is offensive and what is not. Self regulatory sometimes appears to be more draconian than the gov. Weird huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Justice,_Rating,_Titles_and_Qualification

PS: there are pages about it and every country (not every really) on wikipedia. I say it's worth checking out.

That was a great little mini series. Thank you

An interesting and educational lesson, very much enjoyed it. Thank you, Bob!

Well that was fun!

That was a lot of fun, Movie Bob. Thanks.

Very well done. And please do not feel obrigated to cover comics all the time. Honor the name MOVIE Bob now and them, we sure appreciate! :)

Ps: Comics are welcome and loved too, of course xD

I actually thought this episode went a little too fast. Sure, this may have gone on longer than you intended it to, Bob, but it was a good stretch of episodes.

Looking forward to next week and the possibility of agreeing or disagreeing with whatever comes next.

I actually did a whole report for one of my business classes (It was actually supposed to be a controversial topic) and I did it on the Ratings System.

I am familiar with what Jack Valenti did with the ratings system, what movies became what, and how the ratings became what they are now (I.E. - Spielberg helped create the PG-13 rating, Gremlins would have been rated "R" without Spielberg as a producer, Fritz The Cat was the first X rated motion picture, Andy Warhol's Frankenstein was the first 3-D pornographic film, ETC, ETC) and I was surprised about what I learned.

Film History is a wonderful subject, especially when you consider what kind of hell the people went through (Poor Fatty Arbuckle, and any celebrity today thinks they have it bad if they get kicked out of a new movie project).

It's all fascinating, and ff you were to go into the next topic on the MPAA ratings system (It's eventual, I assume) I'd be just as intrigued as go into it as I did this series.

Great chronicling, Moviebob.

I liked the visual pun of,

Sex and Violence

Being replaced with

Sax and Violin

Great episode again.

Now I just hope next week it's not comics again. Some political/social aspect would be cool.

Heh. Given the context, was anyone else amused by the nipple-bar on the woman-tied-to-post picture?

Anyway, that was a really interesting little series, especially for someone like me who knows... well, virtually nothing about movie history. I enjoyed it, thanks.

And yet so many have failed to learn from this history lesson of just why censorship is to evferyone's detriment.

Link XL1:
bob should do more of these Something's History 101 videos, i really enjoyed them

History of Comic Books
History of Video Games
History of the Action Figure
History of Literature

wait, that last one is a college course...

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Somehow I went and quoted the wrong post...

Swing and a miss, and Bob Chipman strikes out. I guess when it came time, Chipman just couldn't deliver.

murphy7801:
Hhhhhm Well cant say that home country of england any better with censorship.

Thank GOD for Benny Hill!

OT: I'm glad Bob talked about Fatty's trial and the HAYS code. In fact the HAYS code was the basis for the comics code.

The Hays code is what turned THIS Betty Boop...
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Into THIS Betty Boop.
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There she is... Conservatively dressed and caring for her Nephew.

Frozen Donkey Wheel2:

EDIT: Also, FUCK. THESE. FUCKING. ADS. Seriously, is anyone else seeing this? "El Shaddai"? Incredible amounts of lag? A medieval knight wearing blue jeans to your left? A LOT. OF FUCKING. LAG? Anyone?

I'm not a premium member either...

orangeapples:

Link XL1:
bob should do more of these Something's History 101 videos, i really enjoyed them

History of the Action Figure

YES!

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Great show as always Bob...of course this one should probably be considered a mini-series...Either way, it's weird finding out the rating system is younger than my Dad.

vxicepickxv:
I actually want to see what a lot of those older movies were all about.

How many of them are public domain now? Does anyone know where I can get them on the cheap if they're not?

The bad news is that about 50% of all motion pictures EVER produced are completely lost to history due to inadequate preservation, and as expected what was left to rot first were 'taboo' films that they figured would never be sellable again.

The GOOD news is that, a few years ago, there was a big "fad" among studio archivists of releasing "Pre-Code" movies on DVD sets. TCM in particular did a 4-volume run of boxed-sets called 'Forbidden Hollywood' that had some of the more notorious ones and a lot of genuine rarities. There was also a seperate series called 'The Glamour Collection" that grouped older, mostly pre-code films by "sex symbol" actresses of the pre-WWII era (Mae West and Marlene Deitrich especially) into multi-film sets.

Searching Amazon (or the retailer of your choice) for those or just "pre-code movies" in general should yield a good set of results, and many of the individual titles listed are on Netflix or may even be public-domain enough to be viewed online. The only thing to be "prepared" for is that A LOT of the material plays more as an interesting time-capsule than as genuine entertainment today; i.e. there's a lot of "filler" surrounding the racy/violent scenes that were the big draw.

What's left of Fatty Arbuckle's work is spread out among many, many low-end public-domain DVDs; though most archivists agree that it represents only a fraction of his work and that most of his best productions seem to be gone for good.

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