One Size Does Not Fit All

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Chrono212:

Catwomen has a swag bag?

Probably not, but can you imagine how fast that would sell to the Goth Students?

Maybe I could say, controversially, some women's costumes are more interesting and creative than men's. Not all, some.

Guys have two sets of clothing. THE SUIT and THE CASUAL. Anything else is pure ostentatious. 99% of superheros IRL would wear a black suit.

"And for the record, my husband really is a superhero"
Me: AAWWWWWW :)
*Reads linked article*
Me: Holy shit! Her husband really IS a superhero!

Susan Arendt:

Women read comics too, you jerks.

Of course, there'd be nothing potentially wrong with having a magazine that speaks to gaming people, that might just happen to have a t-shirt shop, that might happen to have access to some designs about some characters, than might happen to be superheroes producing a set of t-shirts that happen to explain the ideas expressed in some of these commentaries.

And if, potentially, there could exist a competition to design said T-shirt specifically to promote the idea that fictional characters can be enjoyed by people who don't follow an inEscapist view.

Just a thought :)

Susan Arendt:

Safaia:
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Even this site is guilty of that. My XL 'Press X to not die' shirt has never been dried because I have to hang it up. If it shrinks it won't fit.

Blame American Apparel, which is notorious for running small. I have to have all XL shirts too, for the same reason. It's a troublesome tradeoff - AA make high-quality shirts, but they run small. So we can either get shirts that you can basically see through (not ideal for ladies), or ones that aren't boob-friendly.

Why must fashion be so complex? It use to be simple. You'd just make yourself a good knife or spear, go out in the woods, find and kill a group of animals or one big one, skin it, clean the blood out of the fur, and.....

Actually, that sounds a bit more taxing. Well at least both girls and boys could wear the same kind of bear back then.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Susan Arendt:

Women read comics too, you jerks.

Of course, there'd be nothing potentially wrong with having a magazine that speaks to gaming people, that might just happen to have a t-shirt shop, that might happen to have access to some designs about some characters, than might happen to be superheroes producing a set of t-shirts that happen to explain the ideas expressed in some of these commentaries.

And if, potentially, there could exist a competition to design said T-shirt specifically to promote the idea that fictional characters can be enjoyed by people who don't follow an inEscapist view.

Just a thought :)

Hmmmm....I think you're trying to say something, but I just can read passive aggressive.

Oh well. Hopefully it wasn't about a drowning little girl this time....Ah...I made myself sad :(.

This double post made me MAD! >_<

Imp Emissary:

Hmmmm....I think you're trying to say something, but I just can read passive aggressive.

Passive aggressive? From me? I'm straight out antagonist aggressive if I want to be....which I wasn't.

Oh well. Hopefully it wasn't about a drowning little girl this time....Ah...I made myself sad :(.

Are you quite sure you're alright? :|

The_root_of_all_evil:

Imp Emissary:

Hmmmm....I think you're trying to say something, but I just can read passive aggressive.

Passive aggressive? From me? I'm straight out antagonist aggressive if I want to be....which I wasn't.

Oh well. Hopefully it wasn't about a drowning little girl this time....Ah...I made myself sad :(.

Are you quite sure you're alright? :|

Define alright.....And if the definition isn't "someone with a superiority complex, coupled with extreme self hatred", then....no. Afraid not.

Susan Arendt:
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I feel your pain. I went to the ballet shop the other day, and they had not ONE tutu in a male cut, and their pumps only went up to size six! SIX! I'm already reduced to wearing an ill-fitting velveteen/mesh one-piece that certainly was NOT designed with an adult man in mind. When will they realise that a full 50% of the population are men, many of them in plus-sizes, and start making ballet and floor gymnastics apparel accordingly? I blame all the female chauvinist pigs in their 19th Century ivory towers who think that all men should be confined to trousers. If this situation doesn't improve pronto, then I feel that my local branch of Junior Dance World may have just lost a loyal and long-suffering customer.

Susan Arendt:

SirBryghtside:
Wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT.

Russ Pitts is your husband?! ...or I've got this totally wrong XD

Yes, he is, and yes, he's a superhero. :)

Heh, I thought that was just a joke from the podcast.

By the way, did you notice the men to women ratio at Universal Studios? Did it reflect their choice in target market merchandise like t-shirts?

I noticed the same issue at normal warehouse stores where there is a wide variety of comic oriented t-shirts for men and women get LADIES OF X-MEN! FLOWER POWER!

-Dragmire-:

Susan Arendt:

SirBryghtside:
Wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT.

Russ Pitts is your husband?! ...or I've got this totally wrong XD

Yes, he is, and yes, he's a superhero. :)

Heh, I thought that was just a joke from the podcast.

By the way, did you notice the men to women ratio at Universal Studios? Did it reflect their choice in target market merchandise like t-shirts?

I noticed the same issue at normal warehouse stores where there is a wide variety of comic oriented t-shirts for men and women get LADIES OF X-MEN! FLOWER POWER!

Ratio was pretty even, really. It was mostly families, couples, and big tour groups. Definitely not overwhelmingly male or female. Enjoying roller coasters is universal. :)

Susan Arendt:

SirBryghtside:
Wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT.

Russ Pitts is your husband?! ...or I've got this totally wrong XD

Anyway, yeah, that's stupid. I've never actually bought a 'geeky' shirt... but it's on my to do list :P

Yes, he is, and yes, he's a superhero. :)

I totally did not know that.

*adds to massive box of random trivia that will prove to be of no use outside Internetland.

OT: I'm kinda confused on something. Are girls not able to wear guys t-shirts? I mean, I get that you want them made for girls, but is there a different style that prevents it or something?

/knows next to nothing about clothes.

Susan Arendt:

Cheshire the Cat:

Susan Arendt:

Way to be a jerk, dude. You not only managed to insult my husband, but me, too, as I both helped write an episode and did voicework on Gamedogs.

Guess a sense of humour aint either if your superpowers huh... But then we could already tell. <.<

But since its clear you cant take a joke I may as well say it. Everyone knows gamedogs was an abomination. You would do yourself far more credit if you looked back on it and could admit it was not your best work instead of getting butthurt when someone jokingly reminds you of it.
Its the type of thing people are taught in kindergarden. Owning your mistakes and all...

But do whatever you want.

Nope, it's not the best thing I've ever done. I wanted to try writing a script, and I got the chance to do that, with not very much success. But that doesn't make it any less jerky of you to say "this thing you did really sucked, HAR HAR!" I've done a lot of creative work in my life. Some of it's really good, and some isn't. That's how doing creative work goes, and I'm my own worst critic. But it's at best impolite to say "wow, you really blew it with that one, ain't I funny???"

If it's any consolation...I LIKED Gamedogs.

Erm...does this mean the next season isn't going to be coming out? Because I've been waiting for that for a while. Well, that and Doraleous and Associates. But that's another story.

I'm actually not at all okay with the "sound commerce" crap. Sell to everyone.

Wow... really, thats all Universal had?... I dont get it, do the people who run the island dedicted to comics actually KNOW anyone who read comics? Not even from a buisness stand point does that make sense. Yes women are the smaller market but the markets still there... I mean surely the peeps who design the mens also design the womens... it wouldnt make sense to order from two seperate makers right?...

Well theres always the internet, I was actually able to find Brony t-shirts on this mother-licker.

Susan Arendt:
Enjoying roller coasters is universal. :)

Did you mean to do that?

Quaxar:
Oh yeah?
I feel with you since I can't get a single My Little Pony shirt from that store in my vicinity because it is only women sizes. I know, the internet. But why can't a grown man wear Rarity on his chest?
You shut up, brony haters. This is about principles.

I haven't been able to find grown up lady shirts with the current gen of MLP on them, have you? The only ones I see are for little girls.

...I wanna Pinky Pie shirt....

Batou667:

Susan Arendt:
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I feel your pain. I went to the ballet shop the other day, and they had not ONE tutu in a male cut, and their pumps only went up to size six! SIX! I'm already reduced to wearing an ill-fitting velveteen/mesh one-piece that certainly was NOT designed with an adult man in mind. When will they realise that a full 50% of the population are men, many of them in plus-sizes, and start making ballet and floor gymnastics apparel accordingly? I blame all the female chauvinist pigs in their 19th Century ivory towers who think that all men should be confined to trousers. If this situation doesn't improve pronto, then I feel that my local branch of Junior Dance World may have just lost a loyal and long-suffering customer.

I bet you look damn good in a tutu. I imagine you to look like this: http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/AngelTakio/PrincessYami.jpg

On the front page of the Escapist...
Is an article about a person who is mad...
Because she can't find cool women's size T-shirts...
That have comic book superheroes on them...
In the one store she talks about visiting.

I'm not trying to be mean, but I just have to say it.

Wow, you can write about ANYTHING on the Internet, can't you?

I went to Universal last year and visited that same shop, and bought several T-shirts, and your right... this was noticed when my stepmother was looking around.

I will point out though that a lot of the other things for sale like messenger bags, coffee mugs, graphic novels, pins, etc... are all pretty equal oppertunity. Picking on the T-shirt selection, even if that WAS a good portion of their inventory, seems a little petty.

That said, to be entirely fair, whether it's at the casino where I worked, or other places I've visited, girls don't generally seem to be a big market for T-shirts to begin with. I think this has a lot to do with the differance in selection outside of a department store, just about everywhere has less of them, and for that matter I see less girls browsing T-shirts to even notice. In the time you were there how many other girls came in and made note of the same thing, or even just browsed them with interest trying to find one like you did? I'm sure the people who work the store have seen plenty of people do it overall, but in proportion to those that visit it?

It might help I think if more girls were interested in the whole souveneir T-shirt thing, at least as far as wearing them goes (as opposed to putting a band T-shirt on your wall or whatever). I understand the arguement that "well maybe if there were more of them, more girls would be interested" but really when you wind up with businesses already over-producing shirts and needing to dispose of them or ship them off to discount joints, it's understandable that faith is in short supply. Really, I think increased demand needs to exist.

See, things would be differant if there were multiple ladies coming in every hour of every day and complaining about the T-shirts in that marvel store. I'd imagine they MIGHT get one or two a day, if that.

As far as the "insulting" blazons, well that seems pretty typical. It's not insulting so much as ironic to be honest. Like it or not you'll find variations on that just about everywhere in a number of themes, because that's what sells. Generally speaking shirts like that are worn to goof off when your out with someone more than anything, and yes it DOES say something when that's all you see... but that something is that they are being as generic as possible since they figure they are more likely to find someone interested in wearing a shirt like that for the lulz for a day of fun, and in greater numbers, than a geek girl who is also interested in buying and wearing a T-shirt. Those shirts are in the same basic spirit as say parents buying the "Thing 1, Thing 2, etc..." shirts for their kids for the day from the Doctor Seuss island... which is probably even more disturbing if you want to try and read into it literally.

Quaxar:
Oh yeah?
I feel with you since I can't get a single My Little Pony shirt from that store in my vicinity because it is only women sizes. I know, the internet. But why can't a grown man wear Rarity on his chest?
You shut up, brony haters. This is about principles.

The difference being that the new MLP show is under a year old, and appealed to an audience that I'm sure even the creators of the show (let alone the faceless corporations that make the decisions) would never have predicted. Give it time and I'm sure there will be some men's cut shirts available through one store or another. Meanwhile, Marvel has been around for decades, with plenty of foreknowledge that plenty of women enjoy the super hero fandom just as much as the boys.

Incidentally, are there pictures of these shirts? We have the Iron Man one on the article, but it'd be amusing to see the others.

Macgyvercas:

Susan Arendt:

SirBryghtside:
Wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT.

Russ Pitts is your husband?! ...or I've got this totally wrong XD

Anyway, yeah, that's stupid. I've never actually bought a 'geeky' shirt... but it's on my to do list :P

Yes, he is, and yes, he's a superhero. :)

I totally did not know that.

*adds to massive box of random trivia that will prove to be of no use outside Internetland.

OT: I'm kinda confused on something. Are girls not able to wear guys t-shirts? I mean, I get that you want them made for girls, but is there a different style that prevents it or something?

/knows next to nothing about clothes.

Women's Tshirts are cut differently than men's to allow for our chests. We can wear boy's cut, but it makes us look boxy and larger than we are. It's not quite so bad if you're not as well-endowed, but it's still not ideal.

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greatly written article, and i did notice that myself a couple years back when i went to universal studious/islands of adventure, they did not have a good stock at all for girl based stuff compared to the guy stuff.

is it really that hard to get a female cut shirt with a badass "BAM""POW!" uppercut punch of an xmen character or such? (rhetorical question, farley...)

i'm sure the designer of it was some random dood/uncomical woman who made those shirts, which was a fail to begin with, and they have failed to sell them at all so they just say "oh there isn't a market there, oh well!" when in fact there is, they just have shit stock.

Went on a t-shirt search the other night and ran into this problem. I hardly found any Boba Fett t-shirts that didn't look like crap, but there were none specifically for ladies. I really do understand the demographic line of reasoning, costs money to make money, blah blah blah. I would pay money for the kind of shirt I want. I'm not asking for a cleavage shirt even, just a flattering, non baggy one. *sighs*
However, I don't think it'll continue to be a problem for long. There are more girls than boys in the world. Girls will pay embarrassing amounts of money for ugly bags just because it has some fancy initials on it. When they do the math, all my nerdy girl fashion problems will be swept away in a tidal wave of crazy marketing :D
I will have a sweet Boba Fett t-shirt by god!

Yes, I agree that is a SUCKY representation of "women's" hero shirts. Very sad. :( Then again, I just don't limit myself to the "womens" styles. It's a shirt, it fits on my body, I wear it. I actually prefer NOT to get the "womens" fit of shirt- a bit to clingy for me. I'm a big girl and I like roomy stuff. So what you'd consider the "boys" style, I consider "hey, a shirt that fits meh, woot".
EDIT: Woah, found the motherload of women's superhero shirts methinks:
http://www.superherostuff.com/characters/Babydoll/Babydoll.html

hulksmashley:
Actually most T-shirts are gender neutral. Those are the ones that make women look a bit boxy, and are usually what is sold for college shirts and given out as organization shirts.
Men's cut shirts have alot of space in the shoulders and none in the chest with really long sleeves, while women's shirts usually have a lower neck and short cap sleeves.
You can tell the difference between gender neutral and a shirt with a particular gender, because gender neutral is usually a perfect square, with no fit at all. It's also usually a much thicker fabric, while a fitted shirt is thin with a lot of stretch. I like gender neutral shirts better than women's shirts, but it's impossible for me to wear a men's cut shirt.

Also, the JCPenney Teenage boys section is my favorite place for T-shirts. Only $10. I got one with Yoshi recently.

I agree. I don't like "womens" shirts because the fabric is too easily worn out and too thin. I like the unisex shirts much better.

Plus all the "for ladies only" shirts are just as terrible as the "for man people only" shirts generally, and in regards to the message or art. The girls shirts are all about pink and slutty girl power, and all the guy shirts are full of slogans about hating being in a relationship or they have some "make me a sammich and get me a beer" line that I detest.

Quaxar:
Oh yeah?
I feel with you since I can't get a single My Little Pony shirt from that store in my vicinity because it is only women sizes. I know, the internet. But why can't a grown man wear Rarity on his chest?
You shut up, brony haters. This is about principles.

Try A Hot Topic, I went there to get a Adventure Time shirt for my cousin, They had Bronie Shirts for guys, One actually said Bronie and I think it had Rainbow Dash on it. We found a nice Adventure Time shirt too,it was only in guy cut, but she got it anyways.

*sigh* Id love to have more geeky t shits but unfortunatly they are har dot find arround here..and downright impossible in girl cut

Seriously?

This isn't important in the slightest, even when compared to the trivial bullshit we normally obsess over on this sit. Stop complaining until you have something to complain about.

Could just get the guy's shirt in whatever is closest to your size.

And the shirt saying your boyfriend is a superhero is not meant to remind you, it's to show all the other girls out there what the score is.

Can't women wear the same shirts as men?
EDIT: Oh, never mind, just read someone else asked earlier in this thread.

Other than that, I can agree on the point made in this article.

Not that I would ever wear such shirts myself though.

Not to say that the writer is wrong. But we have far less to choose from pretty much anywhere else normally.

Zachary Amaranth:
It's kind of interesting how they seem to just throw away a potential market because it's not their bread and butter.

No, they throw away a potential market because that potential market is TINY. I hear what Susan is saying, I do, but the niche she occupies is absolutely miniscule compared to any other geek ware demographic, and the place she asserts must cater for her is in the middle of a theme park that charges $85 just to let you walk in. The kind of money each individual store has to make is crazy, and they cater to tourists and large markets.

If Susan wants to hit up the geek chick tee's there are loads of places both in the real world and online. Honestly, this article is a non issue. The market she wants exists, just not in enourmous establishments.

PunkRex:
Not even from a buisness stand point does that make sense.

I take it that you are saying something like that having actual experience of managing or owning a business? Or at least educating in business theory to a good level? Because from a business standpoint, it really does make loads of sense, especially for a huge brand like Universal, whose bulk buying power must be phenomenal. Not to mention I think, like Disney, they design and copyright all of the prints they put out, only selling official merch in the park.

So not only do they need to mass produce hundreds of thousands of tops, but they also design them, and pay the rates on the land its all on and all the rest of it. Given all of their headaches, you can forgive them for marketing their wares to markets which are sure to see a return of their investments, or at least not make a noteworthy loss.

I said this earlier, but this article is a complete non-issue to make the chicks on this site feel included, and because they needed to fill a gap on the front page with something eye-grabbing.

I know geeky women exist, I just seem to be unable to find any of them. Where are you all hiding?!

On topic, finding geeky shirts is tough enough for me as a guy. Can't imagine how tough it is for women.

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