Jimquisition: Will Grand Theft Auto V Have No Balls?

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Will Grand Theft Auto V Have No Balls?

Grand Theft Auto IV turned the GTA series into something more serious and dark, removing a lot of the ribald humor and outrageous gameplay. Some have said this caused the series to get too tame, and have already complained that GTA V's trailer hints at more of the same. So, has GTA lost its balls? Will GTA V be tame? Does it matter? Let the Jimquisition form your opinion for you!

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Is this video freezing for anyone else at 1:45?

Daystar Clarion:
Is this video freezing for anyone else at 1:45?

Yes. Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Ah, that was fantastic.

I really like the approach GTA has taken as of late, but I can understand why others might not feel that way. As Jim said, there is always the SR series for those individuals and in the end, EVERYBODY wins.

EDIT: Video worked fine for me. Not sure what everyone else's problem is.

Very nice. GTA series probably will make more sales simply because of its name brand. Regardless, I'll be getting both.

Daystar Clarion:
Is this video freezing for anyone else at 1:45?

Yeah, view it in standard quality for the rest of it.

And that's actually an interesting point; having never played GTA IV, I never realised the direction the series had taken. I'm intrigued as to what Rockstar will do with GTA V.

I had a lot to say about this subject, but you've pretty much summed up everything I could have said.

Personally, I applaud Rockstar for realizing* that its depraved public image was hurting gamers in the media**, and responding with maturity and actual stabs at artyness. Few enough people will take that option when prompted.

* I don't know if this was a direct conscious choice on their part, but I'm glad it worked out this way.
** Not that this is the fault of Rockstar, mind, Jack Thompson and his ilk would have bitched about something else if not GTA.

Great video as allways. Wont be getting gta v, but it was intresting to learn about.

i agree, thank god for giant purple dicks

BlueInkAlchemist:

Daystar Clarion:
Is this video freezing for anyone else at 1:45?

Yes. Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Can I start blaming Kross?

'Thank god for giant purple dicks'

Wonder if he noticed the colour of his tie when he said that :P

But but but... all games must be all things to all people. If I want to enjoy Game A for the wrong reasons, it's the responsibility of the publisher to cater to my every misguided whim. Don't tell me to play Game B. I want to play Game A and have it exactly like Game B. That's what America is all about. The land of selfish entitlement.

A tired point but one that bears repeating, especially when The Jimquisitor is the one repeating it.

And so knew that the bat at the end was gonna make an appearence.

Damn straight. I can't wait to get my hands on Saints Row The Third next week. And whenever GTA V comes out, I'll be in line to pick that up too. Hurray for winning twice! And anyone who says otherwise is getting hit in the face with a giant purple dildo.

Hitchmeister:
But but but... all games must be all things to all people. If I want to enjoy Game A for the wrong reasons, it's the responsibility of the publisher to cater to my every misguided whim. Don't tell me to play Game B. I want to play Game A and have it exactly like Game B. That's what America is all about. The land of selfish entitlement.

This shit again? If you really think the only ones who want GTA to not be like GTA IV again live in America, you need a cold hard reality check.

Just what I've been thinking about lately. I'm sick of seeing SR vs GTA threads when they can both be enjoyed for different reasons.
Also, I fucking love Jim's expressive face.

Good ending. And keeping the face while holding a 1 meter long dildo in your hands.
Gave me a good laugh. Just like podtiod does.
Everybody should indeed check out podtiod. It really is amazing. And sometimes serious.

Man, I'm relieved to hear that things with outlandish dick jokes can't also be intelligent bits of satire and humor. Otherwise it might be possible for this very show to have intelligent criticism. But luckily for everyone, SR2 was clearly not thoughtful or interesting at all aside from just being wacky.

Thank God for Jim indeed. Now I can go back to playing Bach Bach Revolution on my piano with a metronome while sawing off my testicles. No fun ever needs to invade my life with all the thinking going on in it!

[F'ing /SARCASM]

Finally somebody said it loud enough to hear, I'll be glad to play the next titles just as I'm excited to play Just Cause 3 someday.

Oh and they're all evenly paced releases it seems, so I can get my fill of one sandbox just to have enough room in my stomach for another. Sand is delicious. Its in our toothpaste.

Maybe Fallout 4 will hit 6 months after JC3... ahh if it were only a perfect world. Guess I'll just have to settle for Skyrim until then -_-. Ha ha! Sarcasm on dowels!

Edit: And whats with people just posting super negative opinions on stuff that they don't even play. It's like saying your music is superior just because you like it, whereas all other music is garbage. If you don't play the game but will hate on it, just go on and stop talking about it. Just reminds me of people trying to be relevant in areas they aren't. Or a jealous ex-boyfriend... (I hate her so much but can't stop talking about her.)

I mean I don't jump on MW3 boards and crap on it because it doesn't exist to me and I probably won't play it (Enjoyed MW2 until that whole IW fiasco, I like developers not games.). But that exact reason is why I have no right to crap on it to begin with. Those that have invested their time can eek out the fine details and complaints. Not I.

Just one question comes out of this video,where in hell was jim able buy a giant dildo and why?

While I'm not debating the fact that the two games are offering a differing experience, I will offer that one of the two is redundent and kind of stupid. Suprisingly I'm talking about GTAV here.

See these games offer little to the player other than a sandbox, a physics engine, and series setpieces and props to be destroyed. That's what makes them enjoyable. It allows the player to create his own fun. Adding any sort of story depth or social commentary to the game just gets in the way of that. eg. a cutscene depicting the hard reality of a family struggling to stay afloat by living a life of crime has no place next to the players previous action of driving a mini van to the top of a multistory carpark and jumping it off the roof into the river for shits and giggles.

If rockstar want to go this route and release "grown-up" games they'll have to release a new IP with totally different game mechanics which complement a more serious playstyle. While not having played it myself it seem like LA Noir was a step in this direction. I'd say Red Dead was as well if it wasn't for it being so utterly boring.

metal eslaved:
Just one question comes out of this video,where in hell was jim able buy a giant dildo and why?

It came with his review copy of SR3.

Not enough grinning sociopaths and cheesy references? Jim, you need to play the DS version :P

Ahhh, you had me there for a second my dear Jim.

But yes, Thank god, for you.

And I as well, will be getting both.

I didn't have a problem with GTA4s lack of stupidity. I just din't want to have to go to boring titty bars, out to lunch, bowling, play pool or fly Brucie around the city with his sluts du jour.

Or worse be forced to get so drunk that I cant walk down the street. Has anyone reall been that drunk and not passed out?

Subtract that from GTA and add more optional side missions with multiple choice outcome and I think that'd be a winner.

And while I'm ripping on Rockstar games; you know what Red Dead redemption needed? Some fucking consequences. That entire game felt like it was on retarded child mode.

When i lost my horse i got a new one in five minutes.
When I lost health it came back so quickly during combat that the cover mechanic was essentially worthless.
The auto aim shot birds out of the sky while I was fighting guys in a graveyard.
And what was the point of collecting herbs and killing wild life? If there had been some sort of health poultice/hunger mechanic or need to sell any products to buy other items that would have been intriguing.

And that cannibal guy could have had a more satisfying resolution. I hogtied him and took him back to town but nobody seemed to care. I had to let him go and shoot him in the back of the head.

beetrain:

metal eslaved:
Just one question comes out of this video,where in hell was jim able buy a giant dildo and why?

It came with his review copy of SR3.

Well that a little less disturbing,sorry to think bad of all mighty Jim Sterling(although he seen very happy rubbing that dildo,not that there anything wrong with that just saying).

Aureliano:
Man, I'm relieved to hear that things with outlandish dick jokes can't also be intelligent bits of satire and humor. Otherwise it might be possible for this very show to have intelligent criticism. But luckily for everyone, SR2 was clearly not thoughtful or interesting at all aside from just being wacky.

Thank God for Jim indeed. Now I can go back to playing Bach Bach Revolution on my piano with a metronome while sawing off my testicles. No fun ever needs to invade my life with all the thinking going on in it!

[F'ing /SARCASM]

No one said it can't, it certainly can. But it doesn't. SR2 is not thoughtful or intelligent. It's definitely satirical, and I guess you could think about it being sort of intelligent in that way, but there is a clear difference between how GTA 4 presents itself and how SR 2 presents itself. The Jimquisition is satirical and features dick jokes, but it can also be thoughtful and intelligent, and it does.

I don't know what boiled up all that fiery rage. He wasn't ragging on SR2 or anything.

Also, I don't want to inquire as to how and why Jim got a giant purple dildo, but I'm certainly curious.

Bit of suggestive ending bit there, Jim.

The thing is Saints Row isn't what gta used to be, it's a cartoonishly absurd characeture of what gta used to be. Where gta once had balance it dipped completely into pretentiousness with gta4.
And I'm not saying that they have to have a total posycho, ruthlessly climbing his way to the top in every game but I don't want some sad sack moving to a new city to escape his criminal past every single time either and R* has been really overusing that theme lately. I'm just saying they should mix it up.

Also, if R* did a better job at the serious storyline and it didn't feel all forced and pretentious, I would totally support their new standard. However, it seems like every time R* is trying to make me cry (usually by killing off a main character) the overwrought drama tends to make me laugh instead.

I wouldn't mind if GTA was actually good, or the characters were more than one note, etc. That's what Jim's talking about, but we didn't get it.

Unless you're the sort of person who find Twilight deep, in which case, Saints Row the Third is also mature and in-depth and explores non-sociopathic characters.

I don't think it was the tameness itself that hurt GTA4 as much as the juxtiposition of character vs setting. Vice city stories, and eve San Andreas had the same issue: we're supposed to like the guy, sympathize with him and get to know him as not all bad and trying to do good overall, all while stealing cars, doing vigilante missions, driving on the sidewalk, and evrything else without consequence. Makes no sense.

Not that it couldn't work, and wouldn't be good, but you need to rewrite the whole mechanics of the world, or at least have a morality based branching story. Then again, with Bioware and Bethesda making the waves they are these days, I think any static character or story path would hurt the game overall.

Hahaha he was petting it! XD I needed a laugh thanks Jim.

Wow... this is a bit of a tough one to tackle. I'd like to say first of all that i agree with what has been said here - that Saints Row filled a void that was left when Rockstar decided to grow up and mature their flagship franchise. However, i will contest that that's nothing more than stating the fucking obvious. We can go one step further than that.

Just because something changed artistic and conceptual direction, it does not mean that people no longer want it to go back to its roots. Yes, the gap has been 'filled' by Saints Row, but at the end of the day, Saints Row is not Grand Theft Auto. I've come across plenty of people who loved the outright wackiness and parody of Vice City and San Andreas, but could not stand the absurdity and excessive gang culture worship of Saints Row. (Note that VC was a parody of 80's and 90's culture more than it was about gang culture, for example)

Being a fan of A does not mean you will also be a fan of B when it is presented as an alternative. To give an example, i might like lemons, but not like limes. They're both fruit, they're both citric, but damnit i just like lemons. Limes are similar, but not the same.

Logically we'd all just go with the flow and accept that things should fill their respective roles. It makes sense; neither one is in direct competition with each other. But the consumer base is a fickle bitch who does not look at things logically. It doesn't matter how rationally you try to explain something. At the end of the day, Saints Row is not the same as their beloved Grand Theft Auto. They grew up with Claude and Tommy Vecetti. Their idea of parody and satire is one that balances a fine line between the serious and the silly. Saints Row is completely off its rocker, while San Andreas still had its serious moments, particularly those regarding family and making it in a rough neighborhood. San Andreas was still absurd in places and had that wacky GTA humour, but it wasn't outright unapologetically stupid like Saints Row is. I can't help but feel that this kind of "so utterly batshit" humour is something that appeals primarily to the American market, more so than the "half serious, half wacky" approach, hence why Saints Row garnered so much popularity and you see GTA and SR polarised as much as they are. Developers feel that the prime demographic is either going to be expecting a serious play it straight tale or a ludicrous glorification of the genre itself with no room left for something in the middle, while fans of the original GTA are still waiting for the second coming of what really popularised the genre. Personally i feel that GTA3 is the pinnacle of the series and i remember feeling that Liberty City at the time had a certain grittiness about it which was offset by the politically incorrect radio talk shows, the questionable motives of most of the cast and the ability to drive on the wrong side of the road at 100mph with cops so much as blinking. Still, through all that surrealism, you had tales of rising through the mafia and the seedy underworld of politicans and big cities which is what GTA so special in the first place. That's what i want to rekindle. A realistic world with unrealistic possibilities. The self-awareness that it's a video game, but it's a video game with something to say about the world it portrays.

Sometimes I feel you tend to hold whatever opinion the controversial one is. So many of your previous comments have been Saints Row supportive style and I'm surprised to find you supporting GTA here.

But you're opinion is right these are things that can both exist and I guess that makes your opinion make metasense too. You'll defend the crude and the noble because both are cool in different ways :D

I think I'll be getting both, too. Of course, SR3 provides more on the gameplay department, but the great stories (and side stories with random characters off the beaten path) of GTA IV and Redemption may entice me to get GTA V partly to witness what situations this new guy will go through. Also, jet planes in both.

Is anyone else having trouble watching this in HD every damn week? I've had to switch to SQ or wait a few days every week for as long as I can remember and I'm getting sick of it.

EDIT:

OT: Great stuff as usual, Jim. Now I really wanna get my hands on Saints Row.

A fair point, I myself am not a fan of either game series or the experience they offer, but I can respect the tangents both are going off on to cater to both audiences.

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