The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Review

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Ugh. Do I really have to wait 12 1/2 hours still? How the hell am I going to concentrate in class with this going on. I would skip if I wasn't sick last week for this class.

Holy crap. I can't wait for this game.

ViciousTide:

Azure-Supernova:
Fuck work, I shall devote my life to the adventures of my retired Nordic hunter as he's once again dragged into a life of adventure!

HELL YEAH! SAME HERE! and i have to work a 6:30am to 6:10pm shift tomorrow while my game is being delivered and sitting in my mailbox...and my mind starts to wither away...Will I have enough energy to even play the best game in the world?

Tell me about it. My Steam copy will activate at midnight (or around that time) and I'm picking up the Collectors Edition on PS3 tomorrow morning. Only problem is I work from 1pm till 11pm so by the time I get in I'll have roughly four hours to squeeze in social activity, a good meal and Skyrim... there just aren't enough hours in the day!

Holy craps, i just ate 1 1/2 pizzas in the last 20 hrs. (don't worry i work out!) I hope I am not sick while playing Skyrim tomorrow night, but hell since i have the place to myself, if need be i can just take the xbox, PC monitor, and Skyrim into the bathroom with me, lmao. Should always have a spare in the bathroom, just in case, just make sure to take the HDD with you ;)

otakon17:

ZeppMan217:
But the question is - will Yahtzee review it?

As a high profile game, you bet your sweet bippy. Can't wait for that one, it's gonna be funny.

Not necessarily, there's a ton of new games that he's ignoring because he can't fit them in his schedule, like Dark Souls, Spiderman Edge of Time, and Sonic Generations (god, I wanted him to do that one). And he is giving preference to the FPS genre, so it's not garanteed he'll review Skyrim. I'd put it on the "maybe" list, because he reviewed Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Vew Vegas.

Ruwrak:

draythefingerless:

Deviate:
So, I've gone from being 'meh' about all the Skyrim hype until these last two days where I've been... well, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9eGtyqz4gY

I just wonder, with all the dragons in the game, will a sneaky archer still be viable, or will it be gimped in such fights?

I dont think Stealth is an option when it comes to killing a dragon....

Maybe you can poison it's tea?

Keep away from my tea.

Calcium:
So much want. So little time.

Over the next two weeks I have 5 pieces of coursework to finish... I really am seriously annoyed I won't be able to play this for so long. :(

I'm right there with you. I have to study for a Developmental Biology exam and another one in Anatomy and Physiology this weekend, it's gonna take every bit of discipline I have. Luckily I have it on release date delivery from Amazon, so I won't get it till the afternoon tomorrow and might get some studying done in the morning.

I think I'm going to murder every elf that I come across. Every single one. If I even hear so much as rumors of an Elf, I will go halfway across the world to slay him.

It will be genocide the likes of which the world has never seen. DAMN YOU, HIPPIE ELVES!

So the beautiful world is back but all the crap bits of Oblivion I hated are also back. Except the Oblivion Gates of course ... f**k them.

Great review! Escpecially when acknowledging that your experience can be entirely different than other people playing the game. Can't wait. 12 hours until dragons reign... and my social life dies.

Glad everyone is so excited to get this game. However, for me at least, this review actually has shown me that I won't be getting this game. The reason? The NPCs broke immersion for me practically every time I had to interact with one when I played Oblivion, and seeing that they didn't really improve it is a major turn-off for the game for me.

Oh well, I'd just end up playing Skyward Sword when it comes out over this anyway.

I need a new laptop. .. Or a new console.

This looks like the new Gothic game we were all hoping for. With a bit of Dungeon Siege character development sprinkled in. Hm. Interesting.

soooooo reanimated npc mod first on the list then eh? :P

Steve Butts:

bliebblob:
I'm curious, how did you decide who got to testplay the review copy? Office lottery? quake tournament? cagefights?

Scheduling reviews is a tricky process, particularly during the "all hands on deck" period we go through each holiday season. The key considerations are 1) how familiar the reviewer is with the genre/franchise and its competition, and 2) whether or not they have the time and attention to meet the deadlines.

In the end, let's just say it's good to be the editor-in-chief.

A good job is all about the fringe benefits!

What system is most of that footage from? Was that PC, 360, or Ps3?

YOU HAVE MY MONEY BETHESDA STOP TEASING ME GIVE ME THE GAME NOW!

Raiyan 1.0:

Steve Butts:
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Review

Bethesda's latest is a true RPG epic that asks you what you want and then gives it to you.

Read Full Article

Oh man, the Scrolls game is finally out? Awesome!

Wait a minute... Where are the cards? I'm confused!

I love you.

OT: mine should arrive tomorrow via HRM mail service.

I CANT WAIT

Just a fortnight ago, I still really wasn't that hyped about it even though I was intending to get it.

But now. Holy shit I can't wait. Been dispatched today.

This is gonna be my fighting dragons song:

Steve Butts:
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Review

Bethesda's latest is a true RPG epic that asks you what you want and then gives it to you.

Read Full Article

I'm glad to see someone still holding on to the old definition of "immersion" in RPGs.

Too often, newer RPGs think "immersion" has something to do with the story or the voice acting, or perhaps the believability of the plot. While these impact how we receive someone else's story, RPGs are (were) about how to create our own.

Immersion has nothing to do with how realistic the textures or animations are (otherwise, we could never be immersed in books). Immersion has to do with responsibility -- the degree to which I'm responsible for what goes on in the story. This can be from moment to moment (like in combat), or it can be more long-range (like major story decisions). The more I feel like I'm making decisions, and those decisions are upheld by the game world, the more likely I am to feel a part of the story.

It's not always about filling in all the right details. Sometimes it's about leaving out the wrong ones -- for instance, if the player doesn't get to choose his/her voice, just don't include one. Forcing a particular answer to a question is far worse than leaving it unanswered. You have less risk of the player feeling "corrected" by the game for imagining something wrong.

While visually-stunning games are fantastic to have, I'm glad to hear there is a game that is still going after emotional immersion. It's a force many people claim to miss, but few really understand what made it work to begin with.

GonzoGamer:

Stabby Joe:
I've only read the Guardian review (prominent UK paper, 5 stars) and the main reason I'm looking into the reviews so much is not to know whether the game is good or not, I think everything can assume it is, but how annoying the bugs are.

From what I've heard so far, they're not New Vegas bad.

Yea. I know what the game is going to be like and I'm sure that on paper it's amazing.
What's holding me back from purchasing isn't the outdated elements, it's the technical problems. And mostly I'm worried for the ps3 port which is sure to be the worst. What I'd like to hear more about in these reviews for Skyrim are how many times the reviewers' games crashed on them.
I hope that we never again see a game with as many problems as New Vegas. That was a disaster. But this is the same publisher so you know they'll give anything the green light to go to the shelves.

That's my main concern as well. I fear many reviewers will simply gloss over all the technical troubles in favour of more exuberant gushing; it's been years since I last played a good fantasy game, and I do have a hankering for another one at this time, but Bethesda are not getting any of my sweet, sweet cash before I'm reassured about Skyrim's stability... which is why I'm waiting for user reviews.

Ed130:

Zhukov:
Five stars, eh?

So... about as good as Dragon Age 2 then?

Good to know.

Oh boy, thank you for reminding me of that... thing.

As for the facial animation, do Bethsesda use motion-capture? or is it all just animators?

You're kidding right? I wish Bethesda would use motion capture. All of the Elder Scrolls game, including this one, have terrible animations for NPCs. The faces, the lack of expression, the dead eyes, they're all back and more annoying then ever.

This is my biggest, and really only, complaint about the game.

Nothing to report on the radiant story system?

Was anyone else annoyed watching the review that he was playing it 3rd person? I felt it didn't really show off the graphics and animation to their fullest, seeing as...well you'r not really supposed to play it in 3rd person.

Zhukov:
Five stars, eh?

So... about as good as Dragon Age 2 then?

Good to know.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Sorry, but that shit-stirring opportunity was too good to miss.

Ha! That was a good one.

I'll wait for some detailed reviews and cheaper prices.

Stoneface:
Was anyone else annoyed watching the review that he was playing it 3rd person? I felt it didn't really show off the graphics and animation to their fullest, seeing as...well you'r not really supposed to play it in 3rd person.

Wait. What? Where did you get the impression that you're not supposed to play it in third-person?

We included footage from both perspectives in the video review but, if it's up to me, I'm in third person unless I'm specifically trying to loot a particular item from a larger pile. I think showing the game in third person not does a better job of showing off the animations and graphics, but also helps you get into the character a bit more.

Oh well, different strokes. I just don't get this "not really supposed to play it in 3rd person" business.

Steve Butts:

Stoneface:
Was anyone else annoyed watching the review that he was playing it 3rd person? I felt it didn't really show off the graphics and animation to their fullest, seeing as...well you'r not really supposed to play it in 3rd person.

Wait. What? Where did you get the impression that you're not supposed to play it in third-person?

We included footage from both perspectives in the video review but, if it's up to me, I'm in third person unless I'm specifically trying to loot a particular item from a larger pile. I think showing the game in third person not does a better job of showing off the animations and graphics, but also helps you get into the character a bit more.

Oh well, different strokes. I just don't get this "not really supposed to play it in 3rd person" business.

The only problem is it makes it look a lot like Dragon age!

Im more a 1st person sort guy.

Off topic

How did it play in the third person? Is there co op or multiplayer of any sort? I'm just curious about whether I should stick to first person or try playing in third person which is a little less jarring, but didn't work very well in Oblivion which was kind of a turnoff.

Steve Butts:

Stoneface:
Was anyone else annoyed watching the review that he was playing it 3rd person? I felt it didn't really show off the graphics and animation to their fullest, seeing as...well you'r not really supposed to play it in 3rd person.

Wait. What? Where did you get the impression that you're not supposed to play it in third-person?

We included footage from both perspectives in the video review but, if it's up to me, I'm in third person unless I'm specifically trying to loot a particular item from a larger pile. I think showing the game in third person not does a better job of showing off the animations and graphics, but also helps you get into the character a bit more.

Oh well, different strokes. I just don't get this "not really supposed to play it in 3rd person" business.

Hmmm, i get what you're saying. I donno, i've always played the Eldar Scrolls games 1st person, i find it more immersive that way. I only zoom out into 3rd if i want to check out my armour or weapons and go "daaaamn!" (because all Nordic adventurers are secretly fashion conscious). Plus the devs for Oblivion said they were surprised when people tried to play it exclusively in 3rd person and I agree.

Also "annoyed" was a poor choice of words, I meant "puzzled".

Without giving anything away, you really need to kill dragons in this game

This had been the death-blow to this game from the very beginning. Whoever knows TES-lore even a little bit knows how much of a franchise-backstab (TES-lore backstab) this is. In Oblivion at last you could not trigger the main story to ignore all the Oblivion portal crap but here you can't.

*hands crap-medal to this game*. Good job Bethesda on ruining your own franchise even more than you did with Oblivion. What useful is a game with nice graphics and cumbersome controls if the story (one of the important elements of an RPG) is total crap? Not much. Better wait for some of the other games coming up. Money better spent ;)

EDIT: And no, retcon doesn't count... retcon is crap, and this game is the pinnacle of retcon <.=.<

10 hours.... just let me play the damn game, Steam.

Odjin:
In Oblivion at last you could not trigger the main story to ignore all the Oblivion portal crap but here you can't.

Are you sure? Because I remember reading an article that said that the dragons wouldn't appear until a few story missions in. Has that changed?

Goodo ^_^ Just did a systemrequirementslab test and I pass all the recommended settings. Looking forward to a long weekend in Skyrim...

Vault Citizen:
Where did you get that really, really cool glowing, purple flame sword?

He summoned it. I saw it!!

blizzaradragon:
this review actually has shown me that I won't be getting this game. The reason? The NPCs broke immersion for me practically every time I had to interact with one when I played Oblivion, and seeing that they didn't really improve it is a major turn-off for the game for me.

THANK YOU!!! Finally... someone who gets me.

Now, I understand it's a matter of taste, but all of the things that Steve mentioned as flaws, were not merely little things to be looked over, but the major reasons why I HATE Bethesda games. Bioware does all of the things I love... and Bethesda, In my opinion, just doesn't compare. In a Bethesda game... Your character is a lone wolf... with no emotional attachments to anything. I have never felt for my character or any other characters in a Bethesda game because they're just mechanical and impersonal. Whereas in Dragon Age, KOTOR, or Baldur's gate... I wept with my characters, felt their joy and carried a sense of responsibility for those who CHOSE to follow me based on my choices. Feeling, meaning, and character driven story, Bethesda does not offer these things. They only offer choice. And Ragdoll Physics *GRRGRAARGH*!!! Sorry.... I hate Ragdoll physics. If there is a sure fire way to remove any hint of personality or realness to an enemy it's to make them crumple like ragdolls when they die.

Yeah yeah, I get the whole make your OWN story thing. But for me, well.. I'm not as good at telling stories as the pros out there. I want to be lead by the nose through an awesome tale and maybe make a few choices that truly affect the characters around me. I just... To me.. playing a bethesda game is like picking up a Book with only the first page written out and then 200 blank pages after that with a caption saying (use your imagination here). And a Bioware game is a damn good choose your own adventure book, where sure, it's not as open and free as the blank page but it gives me focus, and a sense of feeling.

Cat of Doom:

Zhukov:
Five stars, eh?

So... about as good as Dragon Age 2 then?

Good to know.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Sorry, but that shit-stirring opportunity was too good to miss.

Ah, well seeing as DA2 was a brilliant game I should expect this to as well be amazing.

I have to agree with you there. I finished it a week or so ago for the first time after dithering for way too long after the bad reviews it got. I shouldn't have listened, as I really enjoyed it, even if it admittedly wasn't anywhere near as good as DA:O

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