Critical Miss: The Guide To Skyrim Modders: Part 1

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Grey Carter:
I'll spare you the usual platitudes about better graphics and the superiority of the mouse and keyboard - one of those is highly subjective, the other a matter of opinion.

I'm not totally sure what the difference between something being "highly subjective" and "a matter of opinion" is :P

I suspect, for the latter, it should have been a matter of preference.

Cephei Mordred:

SpaceBat:

aftohsix:
Long story short don't waste your breath. There's no arguing with these people about why some people might think there's something wrong with modding a game to kill children.

That might have to do with the people fiercely against the mod never coming up with a single worthwhile argument as to why such a mod, especially when looking at the game it's made for (a game that lets you do the worst things you could imagine to every single innocent adult you see) aside from "because I think it's bad".

It's less that I think it's bad, and more that I think you think it's good. A very subtle but important difference.

First of all, I personally don't have the mod. It's illegal to download that mod here and after watching a youtube vid that demonstrated the mod, I felt awful. So I don't like the mod.

Second of all, only a small portions of all the discussions I've witnessed about this subject were about people absolutely adoring this mod and finding it good. I assume most of the people who download it feel there is no difference between killing innocent adults and kids in a game and therefore enable themselves to cause havoc on all living beings, except just 99% of all innocent beings. it's not finding it bad vs finding it good, it's finding it bad vs indifference.

Of course, I am merely assuming this is the reason, which means my assumption is not based on any facts and might be flawed, just as many anti-mod people's (possibly) false assumption that everyone who downloads this is a sociopath (or whatever you can think of) and plans to murder every child they can find.

Now I just hope that my limited understanding of the English language didn't cause me to completely miss your point or something.

darkdoom227:

darkmind35:
They forgot the anime and nude mods.

Don't worry. I am sure they will cover those in part 2.

I just can't wait for the Construction Kit to come out. Then the entire modding world will change (hopefully for the better).

Oblivion always had great mods for good looking women, and anime styled women (go figure; it's much less boring staring at a hairy male ass).

But why no love for less-testosterone-pumped guys? I wouldn't mind playing as an anime male, just doesn't seem to come in high demand. >_>

SpaceBat:

Cephei Mordred:

SpaceBat:

That might have to do with the people fiercely against the mod never coming up with a single worthwhile argument as to why such a mod, especially when looking at the game it's made for (a game that lets you do the worst things you could imagine to every single innocent adult you see) aside from "because I think it's bad".

It's less that I think it's bad, and more that I think you think it's good. A very subtle but important difference.

First of all, I personally don't have the mod. It's illegal to download that mod here and after watching a youtube vid that demonstrated the mod, I felt awful. So I don't like the mod.

Second of all, only a small portions of all the discussions I've witnessed about this subject were about people absolutely adoring this mod and finding it good. I assume most of the people who download it feel there is no difference between killing innocent adults and kids in a game and therefore enable themselves to cause havoc on all living beings, except just 99% of all innocent beings. it's not finding it bad vs finding it good, it's finding it bad vs indifference.

Of course, I am merely assuming this is the reason, which means my assumption is not based on any facts and might be flawed, just as many anti-mod people's (possibly) false assumption that everyone who downloads this is a sociopath (or whatever you can think of) and plans to murder every child they can find.

Now I just hope that my limited understanding of the English language didn't cause me to completely miss your point or something.

Okay, fair enough. I just assumed you were all for it from your prior post.

Honestly, it's not like I sit up at night thinking about it. I really don't care that much about it at all.

It's just that, when I see someone trying to defend the mod in just about every other way, except just flat out admitting they want to kill virtual children, it makes me wonder what they're playing at, is all.

To explain my own point further:

If the functionality were in there natively, I would not even bat an eye, probably. But modders going out of their way to add the functionality makes me question them.

Anyway, I see no flaws in your english.

Keava:

Yeah. Because in past modders haven't turned out to be future developers. It's not like Team Fortress or DoTA started as simple mods, yup?

Frostbite3789:

I mean, most game developers didn't start out as modders or anything like that.

No.

You're so right. Fuck them!

maddawg IAJI:
Snip, but I read it. Promise!

seraphy:

How do you know how much time people put into their mods? Hmm?

And quite lot of people care, mod that allows skyrim to use 4gb of ram has been downloaded almost 150k times.

Righty, a few of you have said similar things, so I thought it best to address you all at the same time.

Firstly, yes, mods are a force for good and all that jazz, no I don't reap the benefits of them because console gaming doesn't allow for that kind of thing, and yes, that does make me a little bit salty because fact is, with Skyrim anyway, it's like you guys are getting a different, better version of the game for less money. Honestly, this is the one time and the one game where I've really, honestly thought: Welp, it's a real bitch I don't have a sweet rig to slap this bad boy into. That, and I needed a smoke so I was a bit of a dick.

So there's that, let it be known that I'm not afraid to keep it real about myself if I get called out for being a knob on the internets.

But.

Most modders really are just wasting their time with it. If they want, then that's on them and it doesn't hurt anyone, but I don't have to respect it. I did add the caveat of 'unless someone is an actual programmer', and you're right, the rare few modders that have the makings to be genuinely big in the gaming world make their mark in big ways. I hear Portal started life as a HL mod, and then there is Stanleys Parable.

But its like you-tube channels, or blogs. There are a few who make a really big splash, and then there is the vast majority who are really just wasting their time in hoping to make it big. So yeah, the modders that demand respect and are destined for greatness, will head in that direction anyway, that sort of thing almost can't be helped. But most people... Yeah.

The problem with the kids thing is that Beth keep making them cheeky, smug little shits. It's like they want us to want to hurt them.

In the absence of a 'harsh verbal disciplining' mod, I guess killing them is the next best option for people, being the natural first reaction for many to being annoyed with someone in a game.

MiracleOfSound:
The problem with the kids thing is that Beth keep making them cheeky, smug little shits. It's like they want us to want to hurt them.

In the absence of a 'harsh verbal disciplining' mod, I guess killing them is the next best option for people, being the natural first reaction for many to being annoyed with someone in a game.

The least they could have let us do was discipline them by either yelling at 'em or just giving them a little smack upside the head. But no, we just gotta sit there and take shit from kids. Could have at least let us get stern, or tell their parent(s) that their kid is acting up.

After all, there are plenty of shades between "do nothing while an immortal child bitches you out" and "murder children". But Bethesda doesn't even give us the other extreme...

Modders themselves could have avoided this whole mess by simply calling the mod "mortal children". Or, you know, anything that doesn't imply that killing children is the first thing everyone thinks of.

Honestly, I'm surprised the texture connoisseur isn't looking up the chainmail dress of a female npc...

EDIT:

... maybe they're saving that for next week. /edit

I still say it's alright to have a mod that makes kids vulnerable to non player characters.

Cephei Mordred:

Okay, fair enough. I just assumed you were all for it from your prior post.

I understand why you'd think that, but nah, I don't like it. Though there's a difference between me not liking it and me being against it. I'm simply indifferent on the matter, that's all. I do tend to defend the downloaders, not because I believe the mod is cool or great or whatever, but simply because the ridiculous and flawed ad hominem attacks only seem to be coming from the other side.

Cephei Mordred:

It's just that, when I see someone trying to defend the mod in just about every other way, except just flat out admitting they want to kill virtual children, it makes me wonder what they're playing at, is all.

I understand your view. It's just that I don't personally understand why such a huge uproar was created in the first place. I mean look at this week's comic and look at the fourth panel, it a retarded cheap shot. I simply can't comprehend how people can not bat an eye to every single horrifyingly disturbing thing you can do in this game to every single innocent young adult, adult and small animal, but completely blow up at the announcement of this mod.
The constant ad hominem attacks, such as the one in this comic, seem to be often completely devoid of common sense. The vanilla game already enables you to behave as a sociopath, this mod adds very little to that. Saying stuff like "Man, these child killing mod downloaders sure are sociopaths" makes as much sense as "Man, the people who are playing skyrim sure are sociopaths".

Cephei Mordred:

If the functionality were in there natively, I would not even bat an eye, probably. But modders going out of their way to add the functionality makes me question them.

That's what modders do. I doubt it was created because a lot of people simply can't wait to murder children, but more likely because they could simply add it. Some modders spend their time creating the most ridiculous or nonsensical stuff, so this certain mod doesn't really surprise me or raise questions.

In the end people keep forgetting that this is all fake. All of the NPC's on the screen are just a bunch of codes and nothing more. I thought sensible gamers as a whole believed that they could differentiate between fantasy and reality. Attacking people with words like sociopath and psychopath for enabling the deletion of a bunch of codes is nonsensical, not just because it's all fake and does not necessarily mean anything, but also because the violent things that games as a whole have enabled us to do COMPLETELY overshadows what this mod allows us to do. Being desensitized to something doesn't make that something more objectively right or wrong, it just changes our opinion of it.

Irridium:

The least they could have let us do was discipline them by either yelling at 'em or just giving them a little smack upside the head. But no, we just gotta sit there and take shit from kids. Could have at least let us get stern, or tell their parent(s) that their kid is acting up.

After all, there are plenty of shades between "do nothing while an immortal child bitches you out" and "murder children". But Bethesda doesn't even give us the other extreme...

Yeah exactly. Let us snap back at them at least and send them running off crying to mommy.

That being said, I'm not in favour of killing kids in games but Mayor McCready almost pushed me over the edge.

FelixG:
The kids in skyrim deserve it and you know it!

It is just cruel that the console players cant give those smug little assholes what they deserve, its like they KNOW they are invulnerable so they have a free pass to run their damn mouths!

I'd install it just to take out the stupid vampire girl with the Dark Brotherhood. Not only is she a stupid, smug little c...child, her voice acting is *horrible*. Plus, she's not technically a child, so it doesn't make me crazy, right? *twitch twitch*

And the worst part,

JoJoDeathunter:
Love the expression on the sociopath's face. On an related note, I find it funny that some people claim that not being able to kill children breaks their immersion in a game where your health recovers within a couple of minutes and can be done instantly by eating food, you don't need to eat, drink or use the toilet to live, one tiny bit of addition weight makes you go from normal movement to very slow and you can rest by standing in one place.

Those are gameplay details designed to make the experience more fluid and enjoyable. Most of them are representative of authentic functions that would be tedious or pointless to include. Invincible children is contextually incorrect in the Elder Scrolls universe. When your health recovers quickly, or you don't have to stop twice a day to shit, it's for convenience, but it doesn't mean those things don't exist. It allows you to suspend your disbelief without losing anything within the context of the game.

Putting children in the game and then making them invincible while still following the other physical laws of the world hurts immersion because you know the developers did it for reasons unrelated to the game itself.

Do you also think JRPG battles literally happen in a turn-based fashion within the context of the game? When will people understand that gameplay elements and context cannot be so simply compared? Authenticity and realism are similar but ultimately different concepts. This is why we can't have nice things.

EDIT: And for the record, I don't have the mod, nor will I bother downloading it because I don't see a situation where I'd want my character to kill a child in the game. But at least I understand where other people are coming from and I'd never support restricting them or judging their fictional character.

darkmind35:
They forgot the anime and nude mods.

Note the "Part 1". We'll get an obligatory Estrus reference yet!

OT: I am a texture connoisseur, through and through. My Oblivion looked utterly spectacular, and I intend to do the same to Skyrim.

JoJoDeathunter:
Love the expression on the sociopath's face. On an related note, I find it funny that some people claim that not being able to kill children breaks their immersion in a game where your health recovers within a couple of minutes and can be done instantly by eating food, you don't need to eat, drink or use the toilet to live, one tiny bit of addition weight makes you go from normal movement to very slow and you can rest by standing in one place.

Honestly, I rarely hear people saying that they want it for immersion. I'm pro-murder (not downloaded the mod, though - I usually play them vanilla for at least the first time round) and it's because... well, why not?

If we're going to make up words that the other side has said, then I'll throw a couple into your mouth - self-righteous, overreactive, and judgemental. It's a videogame, with the option of downloading a mod which changes the game a bit. I just... I don't see how it affects anyone. Not the downloader, apart from that he has a bit of fun for about 5 minutes, and certainly not the people complaining about it who just seem to be sitting on their throne of righteousness the whole time.

I just... bleh. People take this waaay more seriously than it should be taken.

SpaceBat:

That might have to do with the people fiercely against the mod never coming up with a single worthwhile argument as to why such a mod, especially when looking at the game it's made for (a game that lets you do the worst things you could imagine to every single innocent adult you see) aside from "because I think it's bad".

Both sides are filled with absolutely retarded arguments (can you say ad hominem?), stereotypes, illogical thinking and whatnot, so I find it hilarious that you're merely concentrating on one side. In fact, neither of the two sides are worth talking against. It's a stalemate, a stupid vs stupid discussion that will keep going until both sides shut the fuck up and move on to things not as trivial and unimportant as a mod for a game.

Alright... The logical argument you're stating here being essentially: "I can kill adults in the game therefore it is laughably stupid to be against also being able to kill children in the game."

I do appreciate this argument better than the "it breaks my immersion" argument because at least it has it's basis in logic.

In fact this would be a perfectly valid argument if we lived in a world devoid of ethics, morals and values. However we don't. Killing children is considered an ethical and moral taboo in cultures throughout the world. Most people would agree that killing a child in the real world is a bad thing to do. To many killing a child is much worse than killing an adult because they happen to be both the most trusting and most defenseless members of our species.

Okay but that's all in the real world. How does this apply to Skyrim?

In Skyrim your options of killing people are largely into two categories. Kill or be killed and Murder. The first category can be written off as killing in self defense. In the second category you have the player making the decision to kill. Within the game world this is classified as a crime. If you get caught you get punished. Even though the punishment is laughable "Here's some money now I'm innocent," there is still a punishment. The killable-children mod as I believe it's listed on Skyrim nexus has the same laughable punishment. If you get caught you can throw some gold at the problem and go on being the big damn hero even if you get your kicks killing kids on the weekend.

Ultimately I view it as a stupid, pointless addition to the game. My two main issues with the mod are separate from my opinion on it.

Lets say Fox News gets a hold of this. I love gaming. The last thing I want to see is another sensationalist news piece painting gamers as crazy psychopaths.

My second issue is what is says about the players who are using it. I know gaming is all about rampant escapism and getting to do shit you wouldn't do in real life. Like a daydream you get to play. I play Skyrim to climb massive mountains and fight dragons with a sword. Stuff I don't get to do in real life. Color it however you like if you download and use the mod you're saying that fighting dragons isn't enough. You want the ability to kill children to be part of your escapism and it's fucking weird.

End of wall of text. Sorry. But maybe you're right. Maybe I should just how did you so eloquently put it? Shut the fuck up with my retarded argument.

SirBryghtside:
Honestly, I rarely hear people saying that they want it for immersion. I'm pro-murder (not downloaded the mod, though - I usually play them vanilla for at least the first time round) and it's because... well, why not?

If we're going to make up words that the other side has said, then I'll throw a couple into your mouth - self-righteous, overreactive, and judgemental. It's a videogame, with the option of downloading a mod which changes the game a bit. I just... I don't see how it affects anyone. Not the downloader, apart from that he has a bit of fun for about 5 minutes, and certainly not the people complaining about it who just seem to be sitting on their throne of righteousness the whole time.

I just... bleh. People take this waaay more seriously than it should be taken.

Well I did say some, not all, and you can find an example in this very thread of someone claiming it breaks immersion (post #82, who did write a very reasonable response though I disagree since I don't see children as actually being immortal in the TES universe, just within the limitations of the game, just like the eating/toilet/health etc) so I think it's a reasonable statement to make. For the record I wouldn't ban the mod, since I don't believe in censorship unless the material actually harms someone by it's production, but that doesn't mean I can't disapprove of it.

Edit: Post #85 (above this post) makes some very good points which are among the reasons why I disapprove of the mod.

Wow, panel two is the spitting image of my character, in more than one way. I have to admit I did spend some time crouching down to admire the level of detail in the wildflowers. @_@

aftohsix:
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DAMN IT. I had written up an entire reply to your comment, only to see it get eaten up by the bugs this new, ugly escapist makeover is causing. I'm going to have to rewrite it, so you're going to have to wait for a bit. Sorry.

Going to go ahead and try to sum up the killing kids argument for those who are still on a high horse about it.

A) No, we do not want to kill kids in real life. Can I assume you like killing adults just because you do in a game? Not everyone sees them as anything more than the clump of polygons and sound-bytes that they are, you know.

B) Yes, it does ruin immersion when a kid is walking aimlessly through a stream of dragon fire. I understand that they're are other things that break immersion as well. You're point?

C) When the game has a child, or any invincible character for that matter, blatantly insult or otherwise slight you, that is simply the game spitting in your face and laughing at you for being stuck within its bullshit rules. If you don't find the idea of turning the tables and shattering those rules to pieces a little satisfying, maybe there's something wrong with you.

D) And finally, the developers don't even really care about whatever values they're holding up by putting this leash on the player. Babette is a 300-year-old vampire who has murdered countless victims for money and has enabled god knows how many more murders by supplying assassins with potions and poisons, but the player can't kill her, because she looks like a kid. They're clearly just satisfying some standard for the sake of their shareholders.

It amazes me how many people will happily slit a woman's throat during her wedding, assassinate a man's son in order to send his father into a depression, massacre a town's garrison of guards, or murder their own spouse and turn around and vilify people for wanting a game to follow its own fucking rules.

All right, so here it goes.

aftohsix:

Alright... The logical argument you're stating here being essentially: "I can kill adults in the game therefore it is laughably stupid to be against also being able to kill children in the game."

Not exactly. I don't find it laughably stupid to be against also being able to kill children in the game. I merely find it weird that people believe there to be such a huge difference in sociopathic options between the vanilla and modded game. It is weird to be able to kill kids in Skyrim, though the rest of the killing options aren't exactly normal or good either.

aftohsix:
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So basically your argument is: "Due to child killing in games being taboo in most cultures, it is bad and wrong". Killing adult human beings in games used to be somewhat taboo in the past as well, while it is completely normal and acceptable now. This is not the result of us currently living in a world completely devoid of ethics, morals and values (as you so put it), but merely us having become desensitized to the image of adults dying in entertainment. People not being desensitized to kids dying in videogames is in no way a bad thing, mind you.

My opinion on the matter, the one part in which I disagree with you, is that desensitization has no effect for me on what I find right or wrong. I refuse to download the mod because I am not desensitized to that kind of stuff (also it's illegal), not because I find it something to be an absolute wrong.

So in the end, my opinion does not differ much from the opinions of the anti-mod group, except for the fact that I find the option to completely massacre every single innocent adult or non-human creature as they run away in fear, dismember them and play with their bodies (et cetera) to be weird as well. I'll use your quote on this...It is not enough to kill dragons, bandits or other enemies for some people, You want the ability to kill nearly every innocent person to be part of your escapism and it's fucking weird. Perhaps I'm alone on this, perhaps I should let desensitization affect my morals and values as well, but right now I don't. While I find the death of children in games to be more wrong than the death of adults, I do not see the one side as completely acceptable and normal and the other side as a horrifying thought.

I personally just don't find comments such as "I'm going to murder every innocent person" normal and not worth any attention while finding "I'm going to murder every innocent person, including kids" weird, unacceptable and whatnot. They're both weird as fuck to me.

aftohsix:

Ultimately I view it as a stupid, pointless addition to the game.

So do I. I haven't downloaded it myself for multiple reasons I have already mentioned in my previous posts. Though I find my opinion on the mod irrelevant.

aftohsix:

Lets say Fox News gets a hold of this. I love gaming. The last thing I want to see is another sensationalist news piece painting gamers as crazy psychopaths.

If Fox News wants to paint gamers as crazy psychopaths, they'll do so. It's not as if their news castings are covered with facts and not skewed or exaggerated immensely in any way. If they want to put gamers in a bad light, they'll do it, regardless of the ammo available.

aftohsix:

My second issue is what is says about the players who are using it. I know gaming is all about rampant escapism and getting to do shit you wouldn't do in real life. Like a daydream you get to play. I play Skyrim to climb massive mountains and fight dragons with a sword. Stuff I don't get to do in real life. Color it however you like if you download and use the mod you're saying that fighting dragons isn't enough. You want the ability to kill children to be part of your escapism and it's fucking weird.

First of all, you're assuming that the majority of people download it solely so they can go on a child killing rampage. You may be right, but you have no evidence to base this on. Secondly, you are completely entitled to find it weird and I will agree with you in the cases that people download it solely to kill kids. This does not give you a green light to go all out on assuming things, be condescending and attacking the people who do download the mod. U am once again not saying that you do this, but this appears to be a very common sight in these threads. The other point I would like to bring up is brought up above and I do not want to repeat myself.

aftohsix:

End of wall of text. Sorry. But maybe you're right. Maybe I should just how did you so eloquently put it? Shut the fuck up with my retarded argument.

That wasn't aimed at you. Have you read some of the threads "discussing" this matter? There's rarely any discussion to be found. Nearly all you will find is the pro-mod side coming with their arguments regarding immersion, indifference and from time to time wanting to kill kids, while the other side mostly consists out of people not liking it and it therefore being bad, constant ad hominem attacks and nearly nothing else.

There are very few posts that actually explain their viewpoint, as you have done here, which is why I hate this subject. I don't mind people liking or not liking the mod, to be quite honest I don't care as I firmly believe that the average gamer knows the difference between fantasy and reality and that violent game events have little to no dangerous effect on the player (at least I hope so. Or else we're fucked), but I will not attack either side. If people would discuss this subject as adults, I would love reading through the threads. Unfortunately, I have yet to see a thread regarding this subject that did actually move forward and not end up as a flame war.

I understand that my initial post came off as aggressive, I was merely somewhat irritated that either side has the nerve to look down upon the other based on their arguments, while neither side bring up a reasonable amount of reasonable posts to the table. It wasn't an attack at you directly, but simply what I believe is generally the state of this subject. I apologize if you took it as an insult.

aftohsix:

Lets say Fox News gets a hold of this. I love gaming. The last thing I want to see is another sensationalist news piece painting gamers as crazy psychopaths.

Here's the flaw in this argument: If Fox News did that, it would be because they wanted the game censored, or at least they wanted to get the ratings from the kind of people who would. What you're suggesting is we censor it in advance so that they don't have to do it for us. In what world is that protecting the medium? It's more like surrendering without even waiting for the challenge.

I love the facial expressions on this one. Nicely done!

aftohsix:
End of wall of text. Sorry. But maybe you're right. Maybe I should just how did you so eloquently put it? Shut the fuck up with my retarded argument.

I think a better TL;DR should be STOP IT IT'S WEIRD.

It does not affect you. It doesn't even have the furry argument of OH GOD YOU DESTROYED THE GAME, because you can't just stumble across downloading a mod and then attacking a child.

It just seems to me that people aren't getting what this is really about. Modders tweak. Most of what they mod... barely affects the gameplay at all. It just improves the overall experience - for them, maybe not for you - slightly.

Look, I'm not a sociopath. I wasn't upset at the "no killing children" rule because because I'm crazy, homocidal, or one of these people that says "the game's not realistic if you have a race of immortal children running around!"

No, for me, it was purely and simply I don't take any crap from videogame characters.

In GTA, when an NPC motorist cuts me off or t-bones me as I'm running a red light, I stop what I'm doing and ensure that said NPC has a very...VERY bad day.

Dragon Age 2 was one of my favorite games not because every single cave was exactly like every other cave, thus making certain you never get lost...no, it was because they made every enemy who has a conversation with you before the fight just THE most egotistical, snarky, self-assured bastards who sneer and tell you to bow before their might and powah before you utterly destroy them in - more often than not - rather brutal ways.

So when some punk kid in Skyrim declares how he's not afraid of me even if I am his elder as though he's about ready to beat my ass...first thing I wanna do is shank the little bastard to teach him the lesson of "Don't disrespect your elders...especially if they're strangers...wearing creepy dark masks...and holding a blade that's glowing red." And what about the little brat who takes one look at you and says "Pfffft, I thought adventurers were supposed to look tough" or "*sigh* Another wanderer here to lick my father's boots...good for you." It's as though Bethesda intentionally made each child just THE most snottiest, brattiest, desperately-needs-to-be-disciplined little creep possible SPECIFICALLY because they knew you couldn't kill them.

Actually I was rather surprised and quite disappointed to find out that there's actually quite a large number of Highlanders roaming around through Skyrim...given my vindictive style of play, it really cramps my style when I walk into the palace in Windhelm (which is oddly populated by every noble from The Reach), have someone say he wants to bash my skull in, and come to find out if I try to test his bravado, the best I can do is put him into Last Stand for a couple seconds.

Le Sigh.....

The_root_of_all_evil:
I'm amazed the nude modders didn't get any attention. The work they do on a form they only know in passing is amazing.

Well this is only part 1. :P

"The Texture Connoisseur"

Yeah...

Yay I'm all four! :P

You forgot the modders so sexually desperate and somehow incapable of finding the vast troves of free internet porn that they whip together a shoddy nude reskin less than a week after the game comes out.

Seriously, browsing the Nexus on November 15th, I was already confronted by blurry nipples. Stay classy, guys.

Anyone know how to get rid of Olaf's Cat? Found the stupid thing in some random chest, couldn't drop it and I've been lugging it around for thirty hours of gameplay now.

Seriously, how does a cat weigh forty-five pounds? Does Olaf breed ocelots?

The kid... she is so helpless and so uderstanding of what's coming. Somehow reminded me the girl from The City Of Lost Children.

Please don't kill her, mr. sociopath! T_T

I tried to tell my roommate that I probably wouldn't ever buy an Xbox because I loved the mods that come with PC games. He just couldn't understand why I thought that the game is measurably better on the PC.

I saw that they were releasing Minecraft on the Xbox, and it occurred to me that, with all the mods I usually play it with, the vanilla game became almost unplayable for me. It's a weird feeling.

I hope their is a panel dedicated in part 2 specifically to the one guy who HAD to have his Skyrim white women clean. You think I'm kidding? look: http://www.fileplanet.com/223432/220000/fileinfo/Elder-Scrolls-V:-Skyrim---No-Dirty-Bodies-Mod-%28Caucasian-Female%29

I don't get it. Is Erin an asshole to strangers or is the sociopath part just wrong?

Edit: pfft, not Gwen but Erin.

Next:Spiders into bears mods.

darkmind35:
They forgot the anime...mods

Anime mods? What, do the characters have large eyes?

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