Why I Am Patient With The VGAs

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Dennis Scimeca:
Why I Am Patient With The VGAs

Ease up on the VGAs, people.

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Well, Mr. Scimeca I respect your opinion, but it pre-supposes that awards shows of any sort are a benefit at all. Most awards shows are nothing more than self-congratulatory back-patting by industries that are desperate for validation. Movie, TV and music award shows prove this time and time again. Even the hallowed Oscars are usually little more than a popularity contest. We see over and over how when it comes down to it, the "best" of an industry is ignored in favour of lauding the most popular or those that were able to curry the most favour with the voting members of whatever entity decides who wins.

And because awards shows by definition are the most boring thing in the world except for the nominees and their comrades. That's why real awards ceremonies in which people and groups of people are honestly honoured by a group of peers are so rarely televised. And that's why awards ceremonies that are televised rely on terrible bits of scripted comedy, movie and game trailers, musical acts and silly skits, because without those things awards shows would be dry, boring processions of people going up to a podium, spending too long thanking god and parents, crying and then going back to their seats to enjoy the free drinks.

Awards shows are boring and pointless and the sooner they die out, the better.

I think most people criticize and complain about the VGAs because they are dumb as shit. Any other more detailed complaints are like personalized icing on the cake.

"but it's not the job of a cable network to change anyone's perception of video game fans"

Why not? It's OK to profit off them, but not to try and set an example for the better? My mentor thought me to always to set an example, something the reader can aspire to. The VGAs are starting to do that with that piece they did with Shigeru Miyamoto, but that only made the gap in quality all too obvious.

The show has improved over the years, it's less insulting to everyone, but it's still a disappointing mess of marketing that panders to popularity rather than quality. I get it, they need to make a profit, but honestly, Spike doesn't have the best track record for making quality programing. As you've said, they cater to the lowest denominator, and that is just lazy. I've done my best over the years to make better shows, and I'm doing it with less resources than 5 second of Spike program has. All I want to see is an effort to make something better, but that won't happen on Spike.

Not really the place of a critic to have to run down all the alternatives for me. If Uwe Boll makes a horrible vampire film then all I expect out of Movie Bob is for him to say the film is bad, not provide a list of good vampire films.

I'm also going to have to agree with the people who say no show is better than the VGAs. The show is just really bad even by the rather low standards Spike TV has for some of it's shows. This is the same network who can give us science while chopping an ax into a ballistics gel dummy on Deadliest Warrior so it's not like Man-swers is the best Spike can ever do.

Without the VGAs games would still get made and the big titles would still make money so it's not the death of gaming if we didn't have an awards show until something better than the VGAs could come along to take advantage of all the gamers looking for a good show honoring the games they love.

Well then, they should really invite the people we love to the GOOD events then. I don't know how they manage to drag them out to Spike every time. It's easy to blame everybody else in order to appear to be a higher moral authority, but that's exactly as bad as blaming Spike, which is to say, neither side is going to act without the other acting first.

The UK gets The baftas for Video games which feels like it's not totally about who made the most sales that year which is my problem with the VGA's of years past.

I agree very much with this article.

It bothers me especially because when gamers are not complaining about the VGA being too low brow or populist, they bitch about the Oscar awards being too elitist, in its snubbing of popular blockbusters.

You can argue that popular (yet lowbrow) stuff should get included, or you can argue that it should be up to the specialists to commend the stuff they like. You can't argue both.

The VGAs does not represent the views of every gamer, but then it never pretended to. It is a show made to appeal to the largest demographic on its channel: Madden, Halo and COD players. If you turn around and say "no, that's immature, we shouldn't have a show like that", you are basically disregarding the wishes of the target audience for the sake of your own. You are saying "my preferences outrank those of the unwashed masses."

And that isn't at all elitist or snobbish like the Oscars...

I just can't take them seriously, I don't watch them. Seriously they had what was basically Madden Soccer and King Kong as games of the year. xD

Angnor:
Having no show is better than the VGA's. It's not even a tough choice to make.

Or you could... Watch the other awards shows?

I know this is an American site, but the internet is bigger then that, and this website should really pay attention to things like the video game BAFTAS.

Thats a legitimate and respected British institution of film and television, that has extended it's hand to gaming, and does so respectfully.

The VGAs was a joke & mockery of the gaming community. Maybe next year they can give out an award for the best Hotpocket to eat while sucking down a Mountain Dew during shooter marathon & then t-bag said Hotpocket for taking its acceptance speech too long.

I tried to watch the Spike VGA's in the past. They lost me fairly quickly. Maybe it was the style of the show. Maybe it was the way the games catered only to a specific subset of gamers - mostly teen macho frat boy types (understandable due to it being Spike, but annoying nonetheless) causing all games to be either FPS, TPS or some other macho, violent, western game - Japan need not apply.

I have no respect for the Spike VGA's. I don't care who they claim to be the best in any given category because it's all BS.

Maybe as a video gamer who's been playing for 30 years, with a broad knowledge both current and past on the subject, I'm just not in their target demographic. For that I should be a vapid, FPS playin', XBox Live squealin', Teabaggin' moron.

maninahat:
I agree very much with this article.

It bothers me especially because when gamers are not complaining about the VGA being too low brow or populist, they bitch about the Oscar awards being too elitist, in its snubbing of popular blockbusters.

You can argue that popular (yet lowbrow) stuff should get included, or you can argue that it should be up to the specialists to commend the stuff they like. You can't argue both.

The VGAs does not represent the views of every gamer, but then it never pretended to. It is a show made to appeal to the largest demographic on its channel: Madden, Halo and COD players. If you turn around and say "no, that's immature, we shouldn't have a show like that", you are basically disregarding the wishes of the target audience for the sake of your own. You are saying "my preferences outrank those of the unwashed masses."

And that isn't at all elitist or snobbish like the Oscars...

I'm going to have to disagree that if you say the Oscars are too stuffy then you can't complain that the VGAs are too irreverent. It seems like there is vast middle ground between the two where an award show could seem serious while at the same time being fun.

I think it's okay to be critical of the two extremes if you are looking for something in the middle so I can fuss about the people who drive too slow and the people who drive too fast if all I wanted to do was the speed limit.

Ashley Blalock:

maninahat:
I agree very much with this article.

It bothers me especially because when gamers are not complaining about the VGA being too low brow or populist, they bitch about the Oscar awards being too elitist, in its snubbing of popular blockbusters.

You can argue that popular (yet lowbrow) stuff should get included, or you can argue that it should be up to the specialists to commend the stuff they like. You can't argue both.

The VGAs does not represent the views of every gamer, but then it never pretended to. It is a show made to appeal to the largest demographic on its channel: Madden, Halo and COD players. If you turn around and say "no, that's immature, we shouldn't have a show like that", you are basically disregarding the wishes of the target audience for the sake of your own. You are saying "my preferences outrank those of the unwashed masses."

And that isn't at all elitist or snobbish like the Oscars...

I'm going to have to disagree that if you say the Oscars are too stuffy then you can't complain that the VGAs are too irreverent. It seems like there is vast middle ground between the two where an award show could seem serious while at the same time being fun.

I think it's okay to be critical of the two extremes if you are looking for something in the middle so I can fuss about the people who drive too slow and the people who drive too fast if all I wanted to do was the speed limit.

I'm inclined to agree with you in theory, but in practise, I feel that game awards would end up slipping towards either extreme, and are doomed to fail if they hope to represent all gamers everywhere. If you had a panel of experts, they may neglect certain AAA games over ones that appeal to their personal tastes, which would inevitably upset the audience (the Inceptions and The Dark Knights of the world). If you base it on audience popularity, you are most likely to end up with only the most pandering, lowbrow and unintellectula games winning. Either way, someone will lose out, and gamers will feel misrepresented. Your best hope is small scale award ceremonies that are aimed at serving specific gamers, which is sort of what most websites already do.

The article mentions other video game awards that go on. How about showing some of those on TV instead? The VGA's feel like some MTV award that caters to whatever is buzzing at the moment and is making the most money but full of what rich TV execs consider that gamers like.

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